Re: saving money and achieving results

[Guest guest]

Larry,

You said, " I discovered this on my own. Tell me self advocacy is

ballonney!!! "

You might like to think that but you are not the first person to know

this. Anyone who has dealt with TV's and stereos over the years are well

aware of what can be done to patch something to something else.

Now, explain self advocacy again? How does it work? Fact is, its

nothing new, we all empply it to some degree in our daily lives. Another

fact. You did not accomplish this on your own.

And we are still waiting to learn from you.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

" Probably the earliest fly swatters were nothing more than some sort of

striking surface attached to the end of a long stick. "

--Jack Handley

& Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

Very well done, Larry.

Thats bound to be useful information for others and at the price, its a

bargain :-)

Ted F.

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I visited my local Radio Shack today and purchased, for $6.79 a

bonded signal splitter. This signal splitter is like a Y cord with two

1/8 inch plugs on one end and leads to a 1/8 inch jack. I have two

Freedom accessory cords I plugged in to each of the plugs on the Y

cord. Then I plugged the two ends in to my Freedom. I now have

excellent direct stereo with my Freedom. Try it; you'll like it!

Being directly connected will make the computer, radio, and Cd's sound

much better. I discovered this on my own. Tell me self advocacy is

ballonney!!! Larry

[Guest guest]

BUT, did they share their information here, as Larry has done?

Give him some credit. Do you want him to post the actual part number

at Radio Shack, here too?

I thought your remarks were rather harsh, . Having a bad day?

Ted F.

>

> Larry,

> You said, " I discovered this on my own. Tell me self advocacy

> is ballonney!!! "

>

> You might like to think that but you are not the first person

> to know this. Anyone who has dealt with TV's and stereos over the

> years are well aware of what can be done to patch something to

> something else.

>

> Now, explain self advocacy again? How does it work? Fact is,

> its nothing new, we all empply it to some degree in our daily

> lives. Another fact. You did not accomplish this on your own.

>

> And we are still waiting to learn from you.

>

> & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

[Guest guest]

Ted,

Yeah that was a bit harsh, and Larry, I apologize.

The parts he got should be readily avaulable at any Radio Shack, they

should know what the numbers are. And by the way, the more common term is y

adapter, not signal splitter. The only thing is that one must keep straight

the kind of connectors at each end, there are so many configurations for y

adapters.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have

known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons.

-- Thurber

& Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

,

I accept your apology.

In case my explanation of the signal splitter was ambiguous, here is a

clarification.

1 The reason Radio Shack calls it a signal splitter; It splits a stereo

signal, the two plugs, in to the single jack at the end. 2 The connector to

be connected in to your source is 1/8 inch. 3 The two plugs you connect

with your Freedom accessory cords are also 1/8 inch plugs. There are many

types of Y cords with different configurations. There are also many types

of signal splitters, e.g. jack/plug combination, cord. I hope my

explanation is clear. Larry

Re: Re: saving money and achieving results

> Ted,

> Yeah that was a bit harsh, and Larry, I apologize.

>

> The parts he got should be readily avaulable at any Radio Shack, they

> should know what the numbers are. And by the way, the more common term is

> y

> adapter, not signal splitter. The only thing is that one must keep

> straight

> the kind of connectors at each end, there are so many configurations for y

> adapters.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have

> known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons.

> -- Thurber

> & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I put this on the list not to " Toot my horn " but to show someone a

viable cheaper alternative to the neck loop using direct connect.

You are right, it is nothing I invented, but I Knew what I was talking

about when I approached the salesman at the Radio Shack. If I wasn't a self

advocate, what would I know? I would know the signal splitter wasn't a

viable option. I wouldn't have achieved successful results.

I was merely passing results I achieved with my Freedoms. thanks

Larry

Re: saving money and achieving results

> Larry,

> You said, " I discovered this on my own. Tell me self advocacy is

> ballonney!!! "

>

> You might like to think that but you are not the first person to know

> this. Anyone who has dealt with TV's and stereos over the years are well

> aware of what can be done to patch something to something else.

>

> Now, explain self advocacy again? How does it work? Fact is, its

> nothing new, we all empply it to some degree in our daily lives. Another

> fact. You did not accomplish this on your own.

>

> And we are still waiting to learn from you.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> " Probably the earliest fly swatters were nothing more than some sort of

> striking surface attached to the end of a long stick. "

> --Jack Handley

> & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And you are a gentleman.

Its much easier if we all work together and collectively add what we

know to try and make someone elses life a little easier.

Ted F.

>

> Ted,

> Yeah that was a bit harsh, and Larry, I apologize.

>

> The parts he got should be readily avaulable at any Radio

> Shack, they should know what the numbers are. And by the way, the

> more common term is y adapter, not signal splitter. The only thing

> is that one must keep straight the kind of connectors at each end,

> there are so many configurations for y adapters.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I

have

> known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons.

> -- Thurber

> & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Larry, first, KUDOS for spreading the word on DAI, Direct Audio

Connection, in the scenario of hearing instruments, including the cochlear

implant, and of the benefits thereof!

There might be some confusion for many readers however, in the

configuration as described. Please allow clarification, please.

The presently available TV/HiFi or Personal Audio Cables from Cochlear for

the Freedom combine, in a 1/8 " stereo plug, the R & L signals from a stereo

source to the proprietary DAI jack of the Freedom. Combined in a mono feed

to the CI.

That's the way CI's have been, mono, until recently, with the bilateral

thing taking hold!

(And wisely so!)

However, I am not aware of any present, commercially available patch cord or

adapter, that will convert a stereo 1/8 " plug, to mate with the boombox or

whatever, to the same plugs on all cords from Cochlear, including the

Personal Audio Cable and the TV/Hi Fi Cable and deliver a stereo signal, of

interest, of course, to bilateral uses only.

Mixing into a mono feed, not so complex.. Maybe what you're referring to?

Bottom line here: ALL of the CI makers are behind in making available a

simple and affordable, might the Scot add, patch cord that will separate the

R & L signals in a stereo plug into such as to feed the mono based cords

available, yet splitting for the individual cord in a bilateral

configuration.

It's real simple.. It just hasn't been done yet..

Unless, of course, I am writing from a very deep hole.. <G>

Once again, Larry, thanks for the advocacy, and stirring up a most valuable

issues on better hearing with the cochlear implant via DAI!

Bob

............

> saving money and achieving results

>

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I visited my local Radio Shack today and purchased, for $6.79

> a bonded signal splitter. This signal splitter is like a Y cord

> with two 1/8 inch plugs on one end and leads to a 1/8 inch jack.

> I have two Freedom accessory cords I plugged in to each of the

> plugs on the Y cord. Then I plugged the two ends in to my

> Freedom. I now have excellent direct stereo with my Freedom.

> Try it; you'll like it! Being directly connected will make the

> computer, radio, and Cd's sound much better. I discovered this

> on my own. Tell me self advocacy is ballonney!!! Larry

>

[Guest guest]

I have a bilateral DAI cord that was specifically made for me by Comtek

which sends a signal to each processor thereby creating stereo sound. I

haven't had the opportunity to try it yet (since my spare Freedom hasn't

been mapped for my N24CA), but once I do, I'll report my experiences to the

list. If I'm not mistaken, this DAI cord can be used with battery operated

devices in addition to the Comtek 216 MHz FM system.

Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with 3G

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Right ear - Nucleus Freedom

Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06

[Guest guest]

That certainly would be most intereting, , given that the Comtek system

is mono only, and with the propietary DAI jacks on Cochlear's BTE CIs.

Presently, I don't know of any private entity that offers plugs compatible

with the DAI jacks on the Freedom.

Or stereo to bilateral BTES in a single cable.

Keep us posted!

Bob

,,,,,,,,,,

> Re: saving money and achieving results

>

>

> I have a bilateral DAI cord that was specifically made for me by Comtek

> which sends a signal to each processor thereby creating stereo sound. I

> haven't had the opportunity to try it yet (since my spare Freedom hasn't

> been mapped for my N24CA), but once I do, I'll report my

> experiences to the

> list. If I'm not mistaken, this DAI cord can be used with battery operated

> devices in addition to the Comtek 216 MHz FM system.

>

>

>

> Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with 3G

> Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

>

> Right ear - Nucleus Freedom

> Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bob, your post reminded me of a terrific website I found about a month

back. I found it when I was doing some research on t-coils.

If you wanted to get stereo sound using t-coils, the Music Links device

would do the trick. Since I have a hearing aid in one ear and a C.I. in

the other, the only way I'm going to get stereo from my iPod is to use

my t-coils. I've been broke for the last month so I haven't purchased

them. I will be doing so in the next couple of weeks though. A great

discussion on this very topic can be found here (on the website I

previously mentioned):

http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/weblog/index.php?s=music+links

<http://www.hearinglosshelp.com/weblog/index.php?s=music+links>

Browse to that page and scroll about halfway down it to a section

entitled, " Do T-Coils Hear In Stereo? "

There is a ton of great Info. on the rest of that site. I suggest you

all check it out.

NOW, regarding the subject at hand. That is, getting stereo (both R and

L channels) to work with DAI (i.e. two processors). I contacted Dr.

Neil Bauman, the creator of the website I just referenced. Given his

website, I knew he would be a great resource. He responded that the

following radio shack Y adapter should work: #274-375 Cost is $4.99!

Cheapo. Nice. Whoever tries it, let us know if it works. I believe

this part would do what Bob describes. Let us know what you think, Bob.

As for what Larry did, if I understood Bob's post correctly, he is

guessing that Larry actually has the same mixed (left and right channels

combined) signal going to both ears via DAI. Although I'm sure that

sounds fantastic, I suppose it is not truly stereo because the R and L

channels are not separated. I can't help but wonder how the sound would

differ if the channels were separated via the adapter I've listed above.

Well, I know how it would differ. More accurately, I'm wondering how it

would sound to a bilat. C.I.er.

Larry and Bob, please chime in and let me know your thoughts. Larry,

perhaps you would be willing to be our guinea pig on this. Maybe you

can buy the radio shack adapter listed above and give us a comparative

review of the two. Or, maybe that is the one you already have and your

Rat Shack just made you pay a little more for it. :-P

Have a great weekend, everyone.

Freedom 5/8/06

>

> Dear Larry, first, KUDOS for spreading the word on DAI, Direct Audio

> Connection, in the scenario of hearing instruments, including the

cochlear

> implant, and of the benefits thereof!

>

> There might be some confusion for many readers however, in the

> configuration as described. Please allow clarification, please.

>

> The presently available TV/HiFi or Personal Audio Cables from Cochlear

for

> the Freedom combine, in a 1/8 " stereo plug, the R & L signals from a

stereo

> source to the proprietary DAI jack of the Freedom. Combined in a mono

feed

> to the CI.

>

> That's the way CI's have been, mono, until recently, with the

bilateral

> thing taking hold!

>

> (And wisely so!)

>

> However, I am not aware of any present, commercially available patch

cord or

> adapter, that will convert a stereo 1/8 " plug, to mate with the

boombox or

> whatever, to the same plugs on all cords from Cochlear, including the

> Personal Audio Cable and the TV/Hi Fi Cable and deliver a stereo

signal, of

> interest, of course, to bilateral uses only.

>

> Mixing into a mono feed, not so complex.. Maybe what you're referring

to?

>

> Bottom line here: ALL of the CI makers are behind in making available

a

> simple and affordable, might the Scot add, patch cord that will

separate the

> R & L signals in a stereo plug into such as to feed the mono based

cords

> available, yet splitting for the individual cord in a bilateral

> configuration.

>

> It's real simple.. It just hasn't been done yet..

>

> Unless, of course, I am writing from a very deep hole.. <G>

>

> Once again, Larry, thanks for the advocacy, and stirring up a most

valuable

> issues on better hearing with the cochlear implant via DAI!

>

> Bob

> ...........

[Guest guest]

Pat, what Neil Baumann suggested (the RS 274-375) will not work with

the stereo plugs on the CI cords. The mono jack will short out

the " ring " on the plug. Neil was referring to mono plugs in his

application.

Bob

.............

> >

> > Dear Larry, first, KUDOS for spreading the word on DAI, Direct

Audio

> > Connection, in the scenario of hearing instruments, including the

> cochlear

> > implant, and of the benefits thereof!

> >

> > There might be some confusion for many readers however, in the

> > configuration as described. Please allow clarification, please.

> >

> > The presently available TV/HiFi or Personal Audio Cables from

Cochlear

> for

> > the Freedom combine, in a 1/8 " stereo plug, the R & L signals from a

> stereo

> > source to the proprietary DAI jack of the Freedom. Combined in a

mono

> feed

> > to the CI.

> >

> > That's the way CI's have been, mono, until recently, with the

> bilateral

> > thing taking hold!

> >

> > (And wisely so!)

> >

> > However, I am not aware of any present, commercially available

patch

> cord or

> > adapter, that will convert a stereo 1/8 " plug, to mate with the

> boombox or

> > whatever, to the same plugs on all cords from Cochlear, including

the

> > Personal Audio Cable and the TV/Hi Fi Cable and deliver a stereo

> signal, of

> > interest, of course, to bilateral uses only.

> >

> > Mixing into a mono feed, not so complex.. Maybe what you're

referring

> to?

> >

> > Bottom line here: ALL of the CI makers are behind in making

available

> a

> > simple and affordable, might the Scot add, patch cord that will

> separate the

> > R & L signals in a stereo plug into such as to feed the mono based

> cords

> > available, yet splitting for the individual cord in a bilateral

> > configuration.

> >

> > It's real simple.. It just hasn't been done yet..

> >

> > Unless, of course, I am writing from a very deep hole.. <G>

> >

> > Once again, Larry, thanks for the advocacy, and stirring up a most

> valuable

> > issues on better hearing with the cochlear implant via DAI!

> >

> > Bob

> > ...........

>

>

>

>

>

>