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Moses,

What are you hearing right now with your CI? If you're doing quite

well with your CI, I don't know if the Sound and Beyond software would

help you. It supplements the work that an auditory therapist does,

and if your audiologist (why not ask him/her?) says that you need AV

therapy, then the S & B software would be useful for those times when

you can't or won't (due to time or money constraints) see an AV

therapist. That's my 2 cents' reasoning -- I got it since I live

alone, don't have time out of my otherwise busy schedule, work through

assignments quickly and run out of homework in no time, etc. :)

activated 12/8, preling prof, age 32

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:00:32 EST, chinamoses@... <chinamoses@...> wrote:

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> I am willing to purchase a " Sound & Beyond " software if it really helps me.

> Please advise me.Thank you, Moses

>

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If it is the demo there is only 4 sounds on there and doesn't have

much use. I tried the demo, and it was VERY limited.

Tom

>

> Our audi let me borrow a cd that she had just got from Nucleus. It

> was on rehab for teens but she thought I might be able to get some

> ideas for Peyton. It is to far advanced for him right now but I

> installed it anyway. I'm going to ask if we can borrow sound and

> beyond also. Maybe others could do the same. At least you could try

> it out and see if it is worth the expense. Many Ci clinics have

> copies that they recieve for free or at at reduced rate. I don't

> think making a copy of it would have any legal ramifications as long

> as it wasn't sold.

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The one I used was Hear we go. It was a full version. It's primarily for teens

and has worksheets and different levels. You need to have a partner for this

one. It is like a checklist where your partner says a word and you have to

repeat it. The pages are set up so that they can be emailed to your audi or sent

the same way. It is more of a professional type of program and not really geared

for home use as a teaching tool. There is no actual sounds more like written

test for word discrimination.

forensictom2003 <forensictom2003@...> wrote:

If it is the demo there is only 4 sounds on there and doesn't have

much use. I tried the demo, and it was VERY limited.

Tom

>

> Our audi let me borrow a cd that she had just got from Nucleus. It

> was on rehab for teens but she thought I might be able to get some

> ideas for Peyton. It is to far advanced for him right now but I

> installed it anyway. I'm going to ask if we can borrow sound and

> beyond also. Maybe others could do the same. At least you could try

> it out and see if it is worth the expense. Many Ci clinics have

> copies that they recieve for free or at at reduced rate. I don't

> think making a copy of it would have any legal ramifications as long

> as it wasn't sold.

>

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Sound and Beyond is geared towards adults, to use at home, when they

are not able to go for auditory therapy. I think with Peyton, you'd

be better off using the speech therapists/audiotory verbal therapists

at school because I imagine that Peyton also has to learn language,

and have one-on-one instruction. It's better this way. Perhaps when

Peyton gets older, then the teen software would be more appropriate.

Chris

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 11:42:55 -0800 (PST), carrie forest

<cforest4@...> wrote:

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> The one I used was Hear we go. It was a full version. It's primarily for teens

and has worksheets and different levels. You need to have a partner for this

one. It is like a checklist where your partner says a word and you have to

repeat it. The pages are set up so that they can be emailed to your audi or sent

the same way. It is more of a professional type of program and not really geared

for home use as a teaching tool. There is no actual sounds more like written

test for word discrimination.

>

>

> forensictom2003 <forensictom2003@...> wrote:

>

> If it is the demo there is only 4 sounds on there and doesn't have

> much use. I tried the demo, and it was VERY limited.

>

> Tom

>

>

> >

> > Our audi let me borrow a cd that she had just got from Nucleus. It

> > was on rehab for teens but she thought I might be able to get some

> > ideas for Peyton. It is to far advanced for him right now but I

> > installed it anyway. I'm going to ask if we can borrow sound and

> > beyond also. Maybe others could do the same. At least you could try

> > it out and see if it is worth the expense. Many Ci clinics have

> > copies that they recieve for free or at at reduced rate. I don't

> > think making a copy of it would have any legal ramifications as long

> > as it wasn't sold.

> >

>

>

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Hello Larry and everyone,

I already have one program that summer. This program is very good to

learn and practice on ownself. It is easy for me to see these words

and pictures. And it have bold and black. I am not sure about

accessible but it might work from window. I tried to changed volume

in my laptable but could not get it right but I thought it might set

because of my window speech recognize person or something in the

control panel setting. It only allows limit two different computers

becuase you need have two different codes like one can apply online

and other mail or contact for other codes to recieve the second one

but codes are not the same for different computers. At first I was

doing well on three types like sound enviromental and music medoloy

very quick like few weeks but I did not do well with some pure tones

discrimation like Hz for my reasons. It also have words,sentences and

males and female voices so this program have 8 varies choices that you

want to learn and work on. But I could not practice this time until I

get back to normal and work better. I wish I could surprise people if

I do success with this program in the future but I was going to be

surprise someone about music medeloy but I did not made in time to be

surprise them. If you think this program would help you and you can

try to see what is like or what happens that you never know. Thanks

Colleen

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I have been doing much better with my right implant so I decided

some Aural rehabilitation might help me do even better.

> I called Cochlear and found out the Sound And Beyond is a

whopping 290.00 for this program.

> Has any of you deaf blind jaws users had success with this

program? Is it accessible? Are there alternative programs that would

accomplish my purpose but would be more economical? thanks Larry

>

>

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Gayle,

I have the " Sound and Beyond " software. It is registered to a user and

cannot be used by a different user. It was developed for Cochlear by the House

Institute.

Subsequently House developed a very similar program for Advanced Bionics.

This is expensive but I do not recall the title or price . Advance Bionics

also sells a wonderful CD and workbook based program called " Making the

Connection. " This only costs about $30. Both are available in Advanced

Bionics website. I bought the latter upon recommendation of my AV

therapist.

It does not matter which implant you have to use these programs. I had no

problem ordering the AB program online from their website, but my therapist

had said that some patients had had trouble previously because they did not

have an AB user number.

Steinerman

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" Making the Connection " works on a CD player. I can listen to it on my

computer, but it is NOT PC software. It is strictly audio.

I do not know enough about Macintosh to know if they play CD's.

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I have a apple computer. I understand Sound & Beyond only works on

reg computers not Macintosh. Does anyone know if Making the

Connection works on the apple computer?

a from L.A.

Hooked up Freedom 8-21-06

On Nov 14, 2006, at 9:46 AM, sjsteino@... wrote:

> Gayle,

>

> I have the " Sound and Beyond " software. It is registered to a user and

> cannot be used by a different user. It was developed for Cochlear

> by the House

> Institute.

>

> Subsequently House developed a very similar program for Advanced

> Bionics.

> This is expensive but I do not recall the title or price . Advance

> Bionics

> also sells a wonderful CD and workbook based program called " Making

> the

> Connection. " This only costs about $30. Both are available in Advanced

> Bionics website. I bought the latter upon recommendation of my AV

> therapist.

>

> It does not matter which implant you have to use these programs. I

> had no

> problem ordering the AB program online from their website, but my

> therapist

> had said that some patients had had trouble previously because they

> did not

> have an AB user number.

>

> Steinerman

>

>

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Gayle,

Sound and Beyond was developed by the House Ear Institute and

TigerSpeech. The technology has scientifically tested effectiveness

that is impressive. See this website and look for the link

titled 'scientific evidence' under the product listing:

http://www.tigerspeech.com/tst_download.html

You'll also note the software is packaged and sold as both 'Sound and

Beyond' from Cochlear, as well as 'Hearing Your Life' from AB. Each

has it's company logo and color scheme, but otherwise they are what

TigerSpeech and HEI built. TigerSpeech quotes Identical statistics for

each in the link above.

You're right that it's not cheap. Sometimes one is a little cheaper

than the other. You can check on pricing for HYL here:

http://www.bionicear.com/professionals/rehabmaterials.asp

I don't think either requires you have a specific device to purchase

the software.

Have fun.

Steve

>

> Hello All,

>

> I read e's letter (I think it was e) about the Sound and

> Beyond software and I'd very much like to get a copy of this. I am

> asking the forum if anyone knows of a discount copy? Does anyone

have

> this software that they would sell to me at a discount? Is it

> available on E-bay or similar outlet? I just can't afford Cochlear's

> price but can certainly use the information.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Gayle

>

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,

Thanks very much for your reply. I wasn't aware of the registration

factor with the Sound and Beyond program. I'll be checking out

" Making the Connection " to see if that has the help I am looking for.

I appreciate you making time to answer my question....Thanks!

Gayle

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>

> Gayle,

>

> I have the " Sound and Beyond " software. It is registered to a user and

> cannot be used by a different user.

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, can you explain to those of us without a clue, what the " Making the

Connection " CD sounds like? Would it be of any benefit for the prelingual

CI user, who has never had any speech comprehension prior to the implant?

Chris

On 11/14/06, sjsteino@... <sjsteino@...> wrote:

>

> " Making the Connection " works on a CD player. I can listen to it on my

> computer, but it is NOT PC software. It is strictly audio.

>

> I do not know enough about Macintosh to know if they play CD's.

>

>

>

>

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I do not think I am really qualified to answer your question.

However, I would think it would be good as listening tasks are broken down

to small components. For instance, it starts with exercises to identify

types of sound (speech, environmental or music). Next with hearing patterns

of speech rather than identifying speech, such as how many syllables are heard

in a phrase, not what did you hear.

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