Re: Digest Number 146

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Dear Minal;

I had a bad experience with paraway----got very constipated.

Eva

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I signed up with the company to get paraway at cost and actually fought

them and got my money back. I hate paraway. There is a product that I found

on the internet called Herbal Fiberblend. It works. I was using it before I

tried paraway but my friends insisted that paraway would work much better. I

did the whole paraway pack and got constipated and didn't like it at all. I

had to take 3 different products with paraway. With herbal Fiberblend I only

had to take one item and It works great. Raspberry flavor one isn't bad..

God luck

D usana4life@...

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:01 AM

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Hi Dimitrius,

Norflex is for muscularskeletal pain it works very good for me. Some of

the other medications I tried made me sick to my stomache or gave me

headaches this one I have been taking for about 3 yrs. I have my Dr.

prescibe the generic which is much cheaper (orphenadrine) I take 100mg.

I take it only when I really feel I need to. At one time I was taking

TOO much medication and I said no more of this I was not able to

function . I do believe Drs. mean well but have tendancy to over

subscribe medication. You might talk to your Dr. about norflex as for

myself it works wonders but again I try to to manage without it till I

feel its necessary to take it. Everyone is different in managing their

pain. I am one of those people who leans more towards mind over matter

maybe because I have been there done that with the medications I was on

in the past. Good luck and keep me posted if you try this and it works

as well for you.

God Bless,

CSCluv**

http://community.webtv.net/cat926/doc

[Guest guest]

Thank you Kathy for your answer.

I will certainly ask my doctor about Norflex and I hope to know it. (I don't

know if we use the same name, here in Greece). If it is easy for you, can

you give me the name of the substance?

Thanks a lot.

DIMITRIOS

GREECE

cathy Culp wrote:

> From: cat926@... (cathy Culp)

>

> Hi Dimitrius,

> Norflex is for muscularskeletal pain it works very good for me. Some of

> the other medications I tried made me sick to my stomache or gave me

> headaches this one I have been taking for about 3 yrs. I have my Dr.

> prescibe the generic which is much cheaper (orphenadrine) I take 100mg.

> I take it only when I really feel I need to. At one time I was taking

> TOO much medication and I said no more of this I was not able to

> function . I do believe Drs. mean well but have tendancy to over

> subscribe medication. You might talk to your Dr. about norflex as for

> myself it works wonders but again I try to to manage without it till I

> feel its necessary to take it. Everyone is different in managing their

> pain. I am one of those people who leans more towards mind over matter

> maybe because I have been there done that with the medications I was on

> in the past. Good luck and keep me posted if you try this and it works

> as well for you.

> God Bless,

>

>

> CSCluv**

>

> http://community.webtv.net/cat926/doc

>

> ---------------------------

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In a message dated 4/9/2000 5:57:51 AM Central Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< 1. Flood him with the requirement to use two words to get things (No want,

no singing, go play, go up, all done, clean up). He will imitate us to

gain access.

In manding, this is what you want to do. Also build in carrier phrases like

" I want, give me, I need... " to lengthen the mand statement.

2. Color + Object - have him say " red truck " , " blue car " while pointing to

the object (we use the little solid color rubber objects used for counting)

3. Number + Object - have him read the cards that have quantity plus object

like " one cat " , " two dogs " , " three frogs "

2D tacting would be getting him to tact things (we've done cards) with more

than just the object name. This would be object name + color, #, action,

property, etc. We started this recently with a child and are only doing #

and color. With another child, we do 3D tacting of cards which include the

same components (little boy crawling, 2 striped zebras, empty coffee cup, sad

girl crying, etc.)

4. Verb + object Imitate 2 word phrase cards that say " kick ball " , " brush

hair " etc...

You could tact action cards or real actions using this 2D tact to lengthen

the tact.

In the echoic, we have also done imitation of phrases in addition to words.

This would require a strong echoic repetoire, but we target statements we

want to hear the child say in general (Why can't I do that?, What's your

name, I'm still hungry can I have more?, I need to use the bathroom, Do you

want to play with me?, I want to go play, etc.)

You have to capitalize on the child's motivation in order to create more

language. This is without a doubt in the mand situation. While the other

ways encourage longer statements, the mand situation is the most powerful.

Good luck,

Steph

>>

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Gloria,

This is in response to your request regarding a video to encourage young women

to get screened for cervical cancer. Here are a few that we have found

useful:

1. " Comprendiendo El Examen Pelvico " -by Hidalgo County Planned Parenthood

(Texas) Contact person is Martha Leos

2. Por su Salud Y Su Familia-Cancer Research Foundation of America

**The National Center for Farmworker Health has just finished the development of

a Spanish breast and cervical cancer video for farmworker women, but it

is for women 50 years of age and older.

I hope this is helpful. You might also want to contact the Texas Department of

Health's Breast and Cervical Cancer Control Program at 1-800-452-1955,

for further educational materials for your target audience.

>

>

> ________________________Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:56:31 -0800

> From: " Coronado, Gloria D " <gcoronad@...>

> Subject: RE: SF Gate: Still a Harvest of Shame

>

> Hello all,

>

> I work with a community intervention project focused on improved cancer

> prevention lifestyle practices and screening behavior in largely Hispanic

> populations in the Yakima Valley. We are looking for a video that

> encourages Pap testing and is targeting a young Hispanic women (senior high

> school students) and focus on reducing barriers associated with the intial

> screening (fear, discomfort, etc). Any help will be appreciated..

>

> Thanks,

>

> Gloria Coronado

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

--

Saavedra-Embesi, CHES

Health Education Specialist

National Center for Farmworker Health

1770 FM 967

Buda, TX 78610

(512) 312-2700 ext.222

(512) 312-2600 (fax)

saavedra@...

www.ncfh.org

[Guest guest]

Re:Message: 22

- kudos to you for your searching, heartfelt

apology to Penny. It's in line with the compassion I

heard from you (and I was welcomed by you on my first

couple of postings) when I came onto the list. I want

you to know that I was not referring to you

specifically, nor to Tony, nor any particular person.

My interest is in all of us holding a sense of our

culture and community together, not blaming.

I think your comment " Our discussions do sometimes

become inflamed. Given the name of the list, there's a

degree to which this must be expected... " is quite

apt. My wife certainly can vouch for this truth, as

can my kids. You've been through hell lately, we are

all trying to climb out of the fire. Sometimes we help

boost each others reach, sometimes we happen grab hold

of each other's burns and lash back.

Penny- It's shouldn't have to be your job to police

the list. It's our job as members to support the

culture that you initiated and are steward of.

Jim

Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 22:50:25 -0000

From: " Schaafsma " <compucruz@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 145

I wish to apologize for my part in the recent

tensions. I love this

list. I think people here know that. But I have done a

poor job of

showing it lately, and I promise to try and do better.

I owe Penny Houle a special apology, and I am offering

it now,

unconditionally. I'm sorry for the delay, Penny. I

have been waiting

for enough inner clarity to be able to apologize with

the right kind

of sincerity.

You're quite right, I took unreasonable offense, and

responded in a

way that was over-harsh and lacking in perspective

(and sense of

humor, which in my case is a neurological vital sign).

I said things

that were not simply ungenerous but unfair.

I can and will do better, and make a special promise

not to say

anything that could reasonably be construed to be

disrespectful of

you or your contribution to this list. Lesson learned,

no sticky

note required.

Let me say very clearly there is no infection, of

whatever type, in

which I lack interest, and no disease or disease

category whose

patients I do not wish to hear and learn from. I am a

universalist

in my desire to learn about illness. My interest may

extend farther

in certain directions than someone else's, but I don't

assume that

my interests are more important or relevant to the

group than anyone

else's.

I do have a record of welcoming warmly to this list

people with a

variety of illnesses and specialized understandings. I

think that

reflects who I am accurately.

Some part of me (not the better part, in either sense

of that

phrase) believes I am dying. It is true I think that

one hears with

different ears, sees with different eyes, in perceived

proximity

to " the end. " It belies the " chronic " part of " chronic

illness. "

My recent trip to the ER was of that character. By the

time my

neurons were misfiring here I had endured more than

seven successive

days of clonus, visual field blackout and whiteout,

and every

variation of twitch, spasm, jerk, and convulsion known

to man. For

days I was underwater, unable to make out the most

basic details of

my existence, my mouth floundering when it tried to

pronounce words.

I despaired of surfacing. I admit it.

It is hard not to let death's gravity invade life and

make its

burdens weigh more heavily than they already do.

There is a reverse maneuver, that liberates the life

instinct from

the shackles of illness by living as if it mattered,

as if nothing

were more important than extracting the greatest

possible benefit

from each moment.

I am trying to learn this. I am sometimes these days a

slow learner.

In certain ways, I am retarded.

It is easier for me to seperate the drama of my own

situation from

the scientific discussions on the list if I simply say

for the

record what it is that is happening to me.

I do that now and then. Those posts are not submitted

as shared

data, because I am the only witness to them. They are

nonetheless as

relevant to our discussions as any other case history

would be.

I supply accurate descriptions of symptoms. I add, on

top of that,

descriptions of a more poetic sort. Not all experience

can be

expressed in the syntax of pathogen and host.

The case history is underestimated as a teaching tool.

We can become

so focused on microbiology that we lose sight of the

disease itself,

its manifestations before, during, and after

treatment.

Surely as patients one of the ways we can enrich

understanding of

these illnesses is to report as accurately as we can

how the disease

is revealing itself. This adds to the context into

which new

discoveries from microbiology are received and

interpreted.

Our discussions do sometimes become inflamed. Given

the name of the

list, there's a degree to which this must be expected,

and

accomodations made. I will definitely make an effort

to be as

accomodating as possible of the passions of others,

while tempering

my own.

I want my last words here to be uttered in a context

of cordial,

lively, stimulating and informed discussion. I want

the I & I where

schas and Pennys get along just fine. I will do

whatever it

takes to make that happen.

> Friends-

> I found this list a number of months ago and was

very

> pleased with the quality of the discussion, the

amount

> of useful information from folks, cogent analysis

and

> high knowledge level available, and interest in a

> broad range of infections/inflammatory possibilities

> and problems. It helped me keep my eye out for

things.

>

>

> Most of all, I appreciated how I looked forward to

> getting emails from this list (in summary form),

that

> I tended to find quite a few worth reading about,

only

> a few skipped. Info and experience was offered with

a

> clear sense of " this is what I've found or tried "

and

> there was a core-culture of looking at things from a

> variety of views.

>

> In the last weeks I find myself increasingly

> disappointed with the amount of petty bickering,

back

> and forth arguing, and increasingly unpleasant tone.

I

> don't have the same sense of a community working

> together to help each other out. I find I have to

> scroll through 80% of the posts to find those worth

> gleaning.

>

> I'd like to influence us to return to the culture

and

> tone that has been so core here: offer information,

> critique thinking but not people, recognize that we

> are all struggling and ill, and sometimes cranky,

stop

> the back and forth unless it's a developing

> discussion: let's be careful out there.

>

> Jim