Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 On Wednesday 22 November 2006 1:52 am, vikings2444 wrote: > c'mon people, just try this vitamin. it might help. > > http://www.dontforgettotakeyourvitamins.com/berry7205 ??? Why should I even go to this website ??? Same as a previous posting, only the subject is different. Haven't visited the web site yet. Have been given no reason to give a hoot. Perhaps you should give some USEFUL info within your post, otherwise it looks just like useless marketing and not worth the mouse " click " . -- Steve - dudescholar2@... " The brothers flew right through the smoke screen of impossibility. " -- F. Kettering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 The real question is why is vikings2444 even permitted to post messages here? The messages are just spam. Best regards, Celeste Steve wrote: > ??? Why should I even go to this website ??? > > On Wednesday 22 November 2006 1:52 am, vikings2444 wrote: > > c'mon people, just try this vitamin. it might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 In a message dated 10/22/2008 3:29:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alsjoannie@... writes: I don't remember the year or the doctors involved. I believe that would be Dr. Wakefield. Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 In a message dated 10/22/2008 3:29:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alsjoannie@... writes: I don't remember the year or the doctors involved. Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics – check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Kathelee - I also want to vent about my frustration along those same lines. This summer I met with my best friend from high school, who had breast cancer about 10 years ago and is currently doing ok. She had the whole enchilada, radiation and chemo. She told me that one of her two daughters is so frightened by the family history of breast cancer that she is thinking about having a double mastectomy; I recoiled in horror and tried to give my friend some rays of hope to share with her daughter, gave her some websites to check out, told her about the cancer clinics in Germany and Austria that I had read about. I had a book with me about those clinics and showed it to her; I should have GIVEN it to her, but darn it, I didn't. This was about a month before I discovered the Bob Beck stuff on YouTube. I got an email from her the other day that knocked my socks off - "L" had had the surgery to remove both her healthy breasts. I feel like I am in mourning. AND I am angry. I am disappointed in my friend that she does not take me seriously, she probably thinks I am a lovable kook. My brother is angry with me that I try those crazy ideas; I am supposed to just go put myself in the hands of a professional and stop thinking for myself. I was married to a doctor and I know their limitations. He had trouble enough keeping up with all the readings in his specialized field, that he certainly didn't spend a whole lot of time reading about other research. When I refused to use aluminum because of its toxicity, he poo-pooed me, until he found out I had been in the medical library researching the research literature about this; he brought home some articles he had found and since I was right to be concerned, he no longer made fun of me for that. This was about 20 years ago. Another thing that really got my dander up was a radio program the other day -NPR on, "Science Friday" program... a guest was bemoaning the fact that people get these goofy ideas from what they read online and it is scary to him. He brought up the issue of a woman he says believed that her child got autism from a vaccination and though "nobody else" had any scientific proof of this connection, she now refuses to have her children vaccinated, and it is a growing phenomenon in U.K. - they even had an outbreak of measles recently because of so many children not getting their shots... Well, I remember watching a Congressional Hearing on the question of autism and vaccines, and guess what?! The scientists were split on their beliefs, and one particular scientist had a pretty convincing chart that showed the connection between vaccinations (those that have thimerasol, which is a mercury compound) and autism rates. I was impressed. This was years ago, and I would like to revisit that hearing, maybe find parts of it on YouTube, even. I don't remember the year or the doctors involved. But it was a serious hearing and it was televised. This guy on NPR was WRONG that no one in the scientific field had looked into this connection. JoanFrom: kathelee <kathelee@...>symphonicHealth Cc: SecretsNowRevealed Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:50:56 AMSubject: People I just wanted to share frustration when telling people how natural remedies can remedy their condition. I receive such negative feedback from people I share it with that I have come to have an attitude that Bob Beck stated somewhere or someone quoted him as saying some people need the experience of being sick. I am constantly reminded of the closed minded mindset of the majority who will follow the lemmings over the cliff. I can only say But for the Grace of God go I. I have found I don't really care to be around people who can not open their eyes and take in the truth. It continues to amaze and frustrate how somone paralyzed in a wheelchair will not take the time to investigate and learn remedies. It's a very sad commentary on the state of affairs in this country U.S. I don't know and can't say internationally except other countries I believe would be more open minded. At least I hope so. Best, Katheleeverizon (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Thanks for sharing. I will be careful but as you said it's my nature to offer the sites... then I will tell them if they want to fund the pharmecuitical pockets thats their business I usually tell people before pharmecuiticals people healed themselves with natural remedies. It's extremely unsettling to me and I wll tell people to their face in the future that they cannot handle reality. Truth is always stranger than fiction....I forgot who said that. kathelee@... People I just wanted to share frustration when telling people how natural remedies can remedy their condition. I receive such negative feedback from people I share it with that I have come to have an attitude that Bob Beck stated somewhere or someone quoted him as saying some people need the experience of being sick. I am constantly reminded of the closed minded mindset of the majority who will follow the lemmings over the cliff. I can only say But for the Grace of God go I. I have found I don't really care to be around people who can not open their eyes and take in the truth. It continues to amaze and frustrate how somone paralyzed in a wheelchair will not take the time to investigate and learn remedies. It's a very sad commentary on the state of affairs in this country U.S. I don't know and can't say internationally except other countries I believe would be more open minded. At least I hope so. Best, Katheleeverizon (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 As a survivor of a vaccine gone bad, I can wholeheartedly agree that they indeed cause Autism. I say get a vaccine for things that kill or mame (menengitis, polio), but forget the others (HPV, hep a/b, etc.). BTW, Flu Shots are a vaccine!!! Brad On 10/22/08, DotsieBoo@... <DotsieBoo@...> wrote: > > In a message dated 10/22/2008 3:29:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > alsjoannie@... writes: > > I don't remember the year or the doctors involved. > > > > **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your > favorites, > no registration required and great graphics – check it out! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= > http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hi Kathelee, I am also fed up with the whole thing. My son has a friend who comes around and he asks me every time he comes around if I am still electrifying myself. And I say yes and have not been sick with a cold since I started. First time in my life I have gone more than six months without a cold. And yet he rolls his eyes at me every time. What I don't get is why he asks. I would tell everyone I know but I don't want to look crazy. What I hate most is knowing I have something that could help someone that is dieing and not being able to help them because I don't want to look crazy. I live in a small community and I am already an outsider. So, I let them die? Or at least that is what I feel like I am doing. It is quite frustrating. Kat > > I just wanted to share frustration when telling people > how natural remedies can remedy their condition. > I receive such negative feedback from people I share it with > that I have come to have an attitude that Bob Beck stated > somewhere or someone quoted him as saying some people > need the experience of being sick. > I am constantly reminded of the closed minded mindset of > the majority who will follow the lemmings over the cliff. > > I can only say But for the Grace of God go I. > I have found I don't really care to be around people who > can not open their eyes and take in the truth. > It continues to amaze and frustrate how somone paralyzed > in a wheelchair will not take the time to investigate and > learn remedies. > > It's a very sad commentary on the state of affairs in this country > U.S. I don't know and can't say internationally except other > countries I believe would be more open minded. At least I hope so. > > Best, > > Kathelee@... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Joan that is horrible about your friends double mastectomy. How horrible. That cute actress Applegate did the same thing to her healthy breasts. It is a tragedy. People are truly brainwashed. My mother is up set that I use it and she has a huge cabinet of meds she takes everyday. Even though I had her watch the video she does not believe it. She said there is no such place as Einstein University. So I got a hold of them and ask to enroll and left my mothers address so she would know that it does exist. She still refuses to believe it. Kat > > Kathelee - I also want to vent about my frustration along those same lines. > This summer I met with my best friend from high school, who had breast cancer about 10 years ago and is currently doing ok. She had the whole enchilada, radiation and chemo. She told me that one of her two daughters is so frightened by the family history of breast cancer that she is thinking about having a double mastectomy; I recoiled in horror and tried to give my friend some rays of hope to share with her daughter, gave her some websites to check out, told her about the cancer clinics in Germany and Austria that I had read about. I had a book with me about those clinics and showed it to her; I should have GIVEN it to her, but darn it, I didn't. This was about a month before I discovered the Bob Beck stuff on YouTube. I got an email from her the other day that knocked my socks off - " L " had had the surgery to remove both her healthy breasts. > > > I feel like I am in mourning. AND I am angry. I am disappointed in my friend that she does not take me seriously, she probably thinks I am a lovable kook. My brother is angry with me that I try those crazy ideas; I am supposed to just go put myself in the hands of a professional and stop thinking for myself. I was married to a doctor and I know their limitations. He had trouble enough keeping up with all the readings in his specialized field, that he certainly didn't spend a whole lot of time reading about other research. When I refused to use aluminum because of its toxicity, he poo-pooed me, until he found out I had been in the medical library researching the research literature about this; he brought home some articles he had found and since I was right to be concerned, he no longer made fun of me for that. This was about 20 years ago. > > Another thing that really got my dander up was a radio program the other day -NPR on, " Science Friday " program... a guest was bemoaning the fact that people get these goofy ideas from what they read online and it is scary to him. He brought up the issue of a woman he says believed that her child got autism from a vaccination and though " nobody else " had any scientific proof of this connection, she now refuses to have her children vaccinated, and it is a growing phenomenon in U.K. - they even had an outbreak of measles recently because of so many children not getting their shots... Well, I remember watching a Congressional Hearing on the question of autism and vaccines, and guess what?! The scientists were split on their beliefs, and one particular scientist had a pretty convincing chart that showed the connection between vaccinations (those that have thimerasol, which is a mercury compound) and autism rates. I was impressed. This was years ago, and I > would like to revisit that hearing, maybe find parts of it on YouTube, even. I don't remember the year or the doctors involved. But it was a serious hearing and it was televised. This guy on NPR was WRONG that no one in the scientific field had looked into this connection. > > Joan > > > > ________________________________ > From: kathelee <kathelee@...> > symphonicHealth > Cc: SecretsNowRevealed > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:50:56 AM > Subject: People > > > I just wanted to share frustration when telling > people > how natural remedies can remedy their > condition. > I receive such negative feedback from people I share it > with > that I have come to have an attitude that Bob Beck > stated > somewhere or someone quoted him as saying some > people > need the experience of being sick. > I am constantly reminded of the closed minded mindset > of > the majority who will follow the lemmings over the > cliff. > > I can only say But for the Grace of God go > I. > I have found I don't really care to be around > people who > can not open their eyes and take in the > truth. > It continues to amaze and frustrate how somone > paralyzed > in a wheelchair will not take the time to investigate > and > learn remedies. > > It's a very sad commentary on the state of affairs in > this country > U.S. I don't know and can't say internationally except > other > countries I believe would be more open minded. At > least I hope so. > > Best, > > Katheleeverizon (DOT) net > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 thank you ...I never thought to use the silver pulser on colds i'll try it Re: People > Hi Kathelee, > > I am also fed up with the whole thing. My son has a friend who comes > around and he asks me every time he comes around if I am still > electrifying myself. And I say yes and have not been sick with a cold > since I started. First time in my life I have gone more than six > months without a cold. And yet he rolls his eyes at me every time. > What I don't get is why he asks. I would tell everyone I know but I > don't want to look crazy. What I hate most is knowing I have something > that could help someone that is dieing and not being able to help them > because I don't want to look crazy. I live in a small community and I > am already an outsider. So, I let them die? Or at least that is what I > feel like I am doing. It is quite frustrating. > > Kat > > >> >> I just wanted to share frustration when telling people >> how natural remedies can remedy their condition. >> I receive such negative feedback from people I share it with >> that I have come to have an attitude that Bob Beck stated >> somewhere or someone quoted him as saying some people >> need the experience of being sick. >> I am constantly reminded of the closed minded mindset of >> the majority who will follow the lemmings over the cliff. >> >> I can only say But for the Grace of God go I. >> I have found I don't really care to be around people who >> can not open their eyes and take in the truth. >> It continues to amaze and frustrate how somone paralyzed >> in a wheelchair will not take the time to investigate and >> learn remedies. >> >> It's a very sad commentary on the state of affairs in this country >> U.S. I don't know and can't say internationally except other >> countries I believe would be more open minded. At least I hope so. >> >> Best, >> >> Kathelee@... >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 may I offer a suggestion, the truth is a privilege that one earns. You don't have to be truthful with folks who will destroy you, or even with folks who will only keep it for themselves after you offer it to them. That you will share means you deserve the truth you have. But others are not just the same as you. They are all over the place in their hearts and minds. If he asks again, say nothing, change the subject, or say you don't talk about it with everyone. bG > > > > I just wanted to share frustration when telling people > > how natural remedies can remedy their condition. > > I receive such negative feedback from people I share it with > > that I have come to have an attitude that Bob Beck stated > > somewhere or someone quoted him as saying some people > > need the experience of being sick. > > I am constantly reminded of the closed minded mindset of > > the majority who will follow the lemmings over the cliff. > > > > I can only say But for the Grace of God go I. > > I have found I don't really care to be around people who > > can not open their eyes and take in the truth. > > It continues to amaze and frustrate how somone paralyzed > > in a wheelchair will not take the time to investigate and > > learn remedies. > > > > It's a very sad commentary on the state of affairs in this country > > U.S. I don't know and can't say internationally except other > > countries I believe would be more open minded. At least I hope so. > > > > Best, > > > > Kathelee@ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I am afraid we are all in the same boat. I could have killed my own family And it would have been justifiable homicide (perhaps). I am afraid that we all have either too closed or too open minds, and all that I can reasonably do to control the situation is to work on myself (though I do cry often about all of the needless suffering, even my own, before I found some cures).Patience is an important virtue, as is knowing how far you can go to stretch your neibors views , without crossing the line into kookhood.What else can I say?From: bob luhrs <bobluhrs@...>Subject: Re: PeopleTo: Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:49 PM may I offer a suggestion, the truth is a privilege that one earns. You don't have to be truthful with folks who will destroy you, or even with folks who will only keep it for themselves after you offer it to them. That you will share means you deserve the truth you have. But others are not just the same as you. They are all over the place in their hearts and minds. If he asks again, say nothing, change the subject, or say you don't talk about it with everyone. bG > > > > I just wanted to share frustration when telling people > > how natural remedies can remedy their condition. > > I receive such negative feedback from people I share it with > > that I have come to have an attitude that Bob Beck stated > > somewhere or someone quoted him as saying some people > > need the experience of being sick. > > I am constantly reminded of the closed minded mindset of > > the majority who will follow the lemmings over the cliff. > > > > I can only say But for the Grace of God go I. > > I have found I don't really care to be around people who > > can not open their eyes and take in the truth. > > It continues to amaze and frustrate how somone paralyzed > > in a wheelchair will not take the time to investigate and > > learn remedies. > > > > It's a very sad commentary on the state of affairs in this country > > U.S. I don't know and can't say internationally except other > > countries I believe would be more open minded. At least I hope so. > > > > Best, > > > > Kathelee@ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Some people are of "the light (a metaphor for understanding)" while most people are of "the darkness (a metaphor for ignorance)". Essentially everyone is a spirit manifesting their essence through a body. No amount of good information can change their spirit from negative to positive. Willingness to change , for whatever reason, is the first step towards transformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 They will go up from false cheer to despair, ruin, need of change, demand for improvement. The ruin part it is not fully known to them so is necessary to discover. You can ask them what is ruining them. But they will blow that off, saying things are fine, just fine. Ask what's fine? Nobody can list off more than a few things before they dump the words of the actual ruin. Just indicate it is their ruin. If it's a microbe of known character, indicate your device is meant to handle it. If not, you have communicated for real, and they will come up with more awareness. bG > > Some people are of " the light (a metaphor for understanding) " while most people are of " the darkness (a metaphor for ignorance) " . Essentially everyone is a spirit manifesting their essence through a body. No amount of good information can change their spirit from negative to positive. Willingness to change , for whatever reason, is the first step towards transformation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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