Re: Attention Deficit Disorder

[Guest guest]

Two of my sons were diagnosed with adhd and one also with mild autism.

We now have boys who I donot believe would get the adhd diagnosis again. I

believe they would be viewed as at the top end of the 'active' scale and with a

few of the adhd traits but not enough to get a dx by any means.

We firstly found that a gluten and dairy free diet helped [more than ritalin].

From there we progressed to using the Houston Neutraceutical enzymes [this is

the type which have been found to be most beneficial in the autism world] and

these facilitated gut healing for them and also covered for gluten and dairy

when we slipped up:

http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/hni/

These gave us further increased improvements which a gf/cf diet didn't.

I have heard it explained like the gf/cf diet is like a band-aid approach; i.e.

you're not eating the foods with the proteins which cause the problems so you

get less problems - but the enzymes facilitate the healing of the gut so you

then are treating the cause of the problems - a leaky damaged gut wall.

I believe my boys had leaky gut syndrome and the adhd diagnosis was wrong - this

is not to say it is that way for all dx with autistic spectrum disorders and

this approach may not help your son, but it is also worth a try.

hth

)

http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/

http://www.freewebs.com/amiva/ - dogs!

[Guest guest]

Okay, could someone explain the importance of your rh factor and what a sector

or nonnie is.

thank you

Jenni in mi

Attention Deficit Disorder

My son has A.D.D. He is now 26. I tried to do a search on this group,

but didn't find anything, and I went to D'Adamo's site and also found

nothing.

If anyone has A.D.D., or knows of someone who has it, and the BTD has

helped them, please let me know. My son is O +, no RH factor. At this

time, I do not know if he is a Secretor, or a Nonnie.

He has difficulty concentrating when he is trying to study in books in

a classroom setting where there are many other noises which create

stress as he isn't able to filter them out like non-ADD people can. He

also has moments of becoming irritable without knowing why, and he goes

through cycles of difficulty sleeping.

Thank you.

Eilene *_*

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/14/2005 7:28:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

schafam4@... writes:

Okay, could someone explain the importance of your rh factor and what a

sector or nonnie is.

As far as I know, rh factor is not important to the diet. A sector is like

an area that has been divided into 'sectors " (eg the vegetarian sector). A

nonnie is a non-secreter. Non-secreters secrete no blood cells in their bodily

fluids. Their bodies fight infection/disease/etc after it reaches the body

tissue. Secreters secrete blood cells into their bodily fluids that start the

fight with disease/infection/etc before it gets to the tissue. Non-secreters

are considered to be the older blood type and are more diet restrictive,

especially with grains.

[Guest guest]

The + or - after the blood type is the rh factor.

Maddviking@... wrote: In a message dated 11/14/2005 7:28:02 AM Eastern

Standard Time,

schafam4@... writes:

Okay, could someone explain the importance of your rh factor and what a

sector or nonnie is.

As far as I know, rh factor is not important to the diet. A sector is like

an area that has been divided into 'sectors " (eg the vegetarian sector). A

nonnie is a non-secreter. Non-secreters secrete no blood cells in their bodily

fluids. Their bodies fight infection/disease/etc after it reaches the body

tissue. Secreters secrete blood cells into their bodily fluids that start the

fight with disease/infection/etc before it gets to the tissue. Non-secreters

are considered to be the older blood type and are more diet restrictive,

especially with grains.

[Guest guest]

Have had results with ADD by being strict on the diet. Dairy seems to be

especially reactive. And they usually improve with extra Magnesium & B-6 along

with good basic supplements like B-complex, Vit C and Trace minerals.

Focus training works better when young but can be helpful if any is available.

jemmijemmi <jem5252@...> wrote:

My son has A.D.D. He is now 26. I tried to do a search on this group,

but didn't find anything, and I went to D'Adamo's site and also found

nothing.

If anyone has A.D.D., or knows of someone who has it, and the BTD has

helped them, please let me know. My son is O +, no RH factor. At this

time, I do not know if he is a Secretor, or a Nonnie.

He has difficulty concentrating when he is trying to study in books in

a classroom setting where there are many other noises which create

stress as he isn't able to filter them out like non-ADD people can. He

also has moments of becoming irritable without knowing why, and he goes

through cycles of difficulty sleeping.

Thank you.

Eilene *_*

[Guest guest]

Maddviking@... wrote:

> As far as I know, rh factor is not important to the diet.

It is - Rh neg needs more protein and there are a few other things that

matter, D'Adamo mentions them here and there.

A sector is like

> an area that has been divided into 'sectors " (eg the vegetarian sector). A

> nonnie is a non-secreter

secretor:-))

You guys and your spelling:-)))

> Non-secreters secrete no blood cells in their bodily

> fluids.

Naw- you missed it.

Non-secretors do not secrete blood type ANTIGENS in their body fluids.

NOBODY should be secreting blood cells !!!

> Their bodies fight infection/disease/etc after it reaches the body

> tissue.

Thanks a lot, I have noticed and get ill easily.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

Eilene,

My A.D.D. grandson lived with us for 8 years. When we got him, the child was

angry and destructive, always moving, interrupting, moody and constantly

sick. When I put him on a diet without corn, gluten, casein/dairy, nitrites,

sulfites, artificial colors or artificial flavors, he detoxed for weeks with

mucus literally running out of every place you can think of, including

strings coming out of the corner of his eyes. He vomited copious amounts of

mucus for the longest time. I still remember waking up to the sound of him

gagging in his sleep.

I bought organic meat, veggies, fruits and prepared all of his meals,

snacks, etc., including lunch and snacks for school and daycare. Heavy on

the protein and fresh vegetable juices, light on carbs and fruit. Without

knowing it I had put him on an O diet and both of us benefited (we are both

O's). I met with all of his teachers and they wanted to put him on drugs but

I asked them to work with me. When they saw the difference the diet made

they worked with me. I provided special food for him for parties and field

trips, etc.

The diet made major behavioral changes - for the good.

I did other things, too, like creating schedules and routines that he could

depend on. We did yoga breathing exercises and chi gong and I read to him

every night. All of this was complimented with lots of hugs and LOVE. He

still had problems and I have to admit that it was a challenge to raise him

but he thrived.

He now lives with his father, who doesn't believe that A.D.D. exists,

refuses to regulate the child's diet or provide healthy foods, won't listen

to anything that I say, and limits my visitation. My grandson is suffering

physically and emotionally. He has major mood swings and difficulty

concentrating, is constantly in trouble at school and is perpetually

grounded at home. His father lets him play violent video games for hours on

end which causes the child to go into rages when they attempt to make him

stop playing.

He calms down and can focus after he has spent a few days visiting me. It

takes him at least 2 days to detox and during that time his mood swings are

awful, and he claims that he has trouble controlling his words and actions,

then it is like a different child has emerged. He lives a 3 hr drive from me

or I would prepare food for him every day and help him do his homework every

night.

The best thing I taught him is to listen to his body and feel what different

foods do to his energy. Sometimes he stops and pays attention to his body

and refuses the soda or pizza but what can he do when his food choices at

home and school are so limited. As a survival mechanism he has learned to

not eat in order to feel better and often goes several hours or an entire

day without food until his hunger gets the best of him and he gorges on

whatever is at hand.

He is 15 and when he turns 18, or when he is kicked out of school

permanently, unfortunately it is inevitable, he will come back and live with

me. His father won't let him come back sooner.

Yes, the diet makes a huge difference. Doing breathing exercises also helps.

Deborah in Oregon

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

jemmijemmi

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:04 AM

Subject: Attention Deficit Disorder

My son has A.D.D. He is now 26. I tried to do a search on this group,

but didn't find anything, and I went to D'Adamo's site and also found

nothing.

If anyone has A.D.D., or knows of someone who has it, and the BTD has

helped them, please let me know. My son is O +, no RH factor. At this

time, I do not know if he is a Secretor, or a Nonnie.

He has difficulty concentrating when he is trying to study in books in

a classroom setting where there are many other noises which create

stress as he isn't able to filter them out like non-ADD people can. He

also has moments of becoming irritable without knowing why, and he goes

through cycles of difficulty sleeping.

Thank you.

Eilene *_*

[Guest guest]

, my grandson was also diagnosed with autism. I forgot to mention that

I used enzymes to treat my grandson. The enzymes made a " huge " difference.

We also worked with a chiropractor and naturopath to provide body work and

correct supplements.

Good information.

Deborah

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

J. Arnold

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:49 AM

Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder

Two of my sons were diagnosed with adhd and one also with mild autism.

We now have boys who I donot believe would get the adhd diagnosis again. I

believe they would be viewed as at the top end of the 'active' scale and

with a few of the adhd traits but not enough to get a dx by any means.

We firstly found that a gluten and dairy free diet helped [more than

ritalin].

From there we progressed to using the Houston Neutraceutical enzymes [this

is the type which have been found to be most beneficial in the autism world]

and these facilitated gut healing for them and also covered for gluten and

dairy when we slipped up:

HYPERLINK

" http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/sites/hni/ " http://216.114.78.114/webcenter/

sites/hni/

These gave us further increased improvements which a gf/cf diet didn't.

I have heard it explained like the gf/cf diet is like a band-aid approach;

i.e. you're not eating the foods with the proteins which cause the problems

so you get less problems - but the enzymes facilitate the healing of the gut

so you then are treating the cause of the problems - a leaky damaged gut

wall.

I believe my boys had leaky gut syndrome and the adhd diagnosis was wrong -

this is not to say it is that way for all dx with autistic spectrum

disorders and this approach may not help your son, but it is also worth a

try.

hth

)

HYPERLINK " http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/ " http://www.freewebs.com/inspire/

HYPERLINK " http://www.freewebs.com/amiva/ " http://www.freewebs.com/amiva/ -

dogs!

[Guest guest]

Deborah Hollembaek wrote:

> Eilene,

> My A.D.D. grandson lived with us for 8 years...........

Dear Deborah,

I sympathize with the difficulty of wanting to help family and being

blocked from doing so; it really hurts - I have a similar situation -

something I know I could help with if I was permitted - though a

different illness (Schizophrenia) and so I really identified with your

post.

You probably will save your grandson's life sooner or later:-))

I hope I get a chance to help mine one day.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

Irene, thank you for your kind words.

Deborah

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Irene de Villiers

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:39 PM

Subject: Re: Attention Deficit Disorder

Deborah Hollembaek wrote:

> Eilene,

> My A.D.D. grandson lived with us for 8 years...........

Dear Deborah,

I sympathize with the difficulty of wanting to help family and being

blocked from doing so; it really hurts - I have a similar situation -

something I know I could help with if I was permitted - though a

different illness (Schizophrenia) and so I really identified with your

post.

You probably will save your grandson's life sooner or later:-))

I hope I get a chance to help mine one day.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

You need to talk to the doctor who did your surgery. You may have to double

your dose but don't do anything till you talk to him. They run into these

things more often than we realize. God Bless you.

Hugs,

Dr. Rutledge

5/17/06

246/238/205.5/140

high/surgery/today/goal

34 minutes/6 ft. by-pass

[Guest guest]

I can recommend a product that is easy to get from the Vitamin Shoppe

online called Klamath Lake Bluegreen Algae. It is almost pure

neurotransmitters and some people are able to use it to get off of the

Adderall and Ritalin. If you continue to take the Adderall, BG Algae

is a great adjunct. Hope that helps. Deborah

On Jul 28, 2006, at 4:47 PM, jwinters1977 wrote:

> I was diagnosed with ADD when I was 12. I have been on Adderall for

> years. Now I'm having problems absorbing it. Please send me

> suggestions of any known alternatives.

>

> Thanks,

> Jen

> 320/190

> 3/12/01

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You way want to look into Concerta or Metadate. They are both extended

release versions of ritalin. I've studied the pharmacokinetics of both

meds, and although the area under the curve (ie, the total active period) is

the same for both, they have slightly different profiles due to differing

release methods. As I recall, the studies showed that Metadate is best

early in the day (like when an adult is at work or a child at school) and

Concerta was strongest a little later in the day. The fact that these have

two components: an immediate release part, and an delayed-release

component, may help with absorption. It's worth a try. I find that

treatment of ADD is largely a trial-and-error proposition for everyone, and

for MGBers, it's going to be a little more tricky.

Joanie

5/25/04

Drs. Walsh and Rutledge

>From: " jwinters1977 " <julietwinters@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Attention Deficit Disorder

>Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:47:12 -0000

>

>I was diagnosed with ADD when I was 12. I have been on Adderall for

>years. Now I'm having problems absorbing it. Please send me

>suggestions of any known alternatives.

>

>Thanks,

>Jen

>320/190

>3/12/01

>

>

>

>

>

_________________________________________________________________

On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to

get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement

[Guest guest]

Hi,

They have just come out with a patch with one of the

meds for ADD. Check with your doc and he should know

about it.

Pam

--- jwinters1977 <julietwinters@...> wrote:

> I was diagnosed with ADD when I was 12. I have been

> on Adderall for

> years. Now I'm having problems absorbing it. Please

> send me

> suggestions of any known alternatives.

>

> Thanks,

> Jen

> 320/190

> 3/12/01

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I will.

pam morrison <pam2796@...> wrote: Hi,

They have just come out with a patch with one of the

meds for ADD. Check with your doc and he should know

about it.

Pam

--- jwinters1977 <julietwinters@...> wrote:

> I was diagnosed with ADD when I was 12. I have been

> on Adderall for

> years. Now I'm having problems absorbing it. Please

> send me

> suggestions of any known alternatives.

>

> Thanks,

> Jen

> 320/190

> 3/12/01

>

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________