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To my knowledge, there is no concrete info on the TMJ/plagio relationship out there. This applies to many of the other possible side affects of plagio as well. Many of the possible side effects are purely speculation made by medical professionals, based on the way the body works, and how changing the shape of a skull can cause it to function differently (, are you there? Is this correct? Please let us know if this is wrong!).

The plagio "epidemic" is a relatively new thing (since the back to sleep campaign began), and so many of the children who have/had plagio are not yet old enough to do studies on, or, no one has done them (again, that I'm aware of). There is one article out there that did a study on plagio kids and learning difficulties, by I found that it wasn't very conclusive.

I hope this made sense to you, and I hope that , or another one of our "pro's" out there will confirm or correct this post (thanx!!).

Kendra in Canadafor information on positional plagiocephaly, visitwww.plagiocephaly.org/support..

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From: Higgins

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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:10 PM

Subject: TMJ concern

I was wondering if anyone had any concrete information regarding the chances of TMJ in the future for kids with plagio and/or tort?

I have an adult friend who had very severe TMJ (from what cause, I don't know). This friend deals with pain every day, which is much less than in the past because he was lucky enough to have a partially successful operation. But what he told me about the condition scared me because I had heard of a connection between TMJ and plagio. But I have never seen any articles or statistics about it.

Does anyone know more? I was thinking that this information may help the drs see that helmets are not just for cosmetic reasons.

(mom to - banded July 10, 2001)

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I thought I might add something to this...

Why is it so important for a house to be level? Without the proper

foundation, cracks take place, and when it gets so bad contractors

will come in and jack it up and fill it in. Symmetry is the key.

~Janet~

BTW~ Who is ?

> :

> To my knowledge, there is no concrete info on the TMJ/plagio

relationship out there. This applies to many of the other possible

side affects of plagio as well. Many of the possible side effects

are purely speculation made by medical professionals, based on the

way the body works, and how changing the shape of a skull can cause

it to function differently (, are you there? Is this correct?

Please let us know if this is wrong!).

>

> The plagio " epidemic " is a relatively new thing (since the back to

sleep campaign began), and so many of the children who have/had

plagio are not yet old enough to do studies on, or, no one has done

them (again, that I'm aware of). There is one article out there that

did a study on plagio kids and learning difficulties, by I found that

it wasn't very conclusive.

>

> I hope this made sense to you, and I hope that , or another

one of our " pro's " out there will confirm or correct this post

(thanx!!).

> Kendra in Canada

> for information on positional plagiocephaly, visit

> www.plagiocephaly.org/support

> .

> .

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Higgins

> Plagiocephaly@y...

> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:10 PM

> Subject: TMJ concern

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> I was wondering if anyone had any concrete information regarding

the chances of TMJ in the future for kids with plagio and/or tort?

>

> I have an adult friend who had very severe TMJ (from what cause,

I don't know). This friend deals with pain every day, which is much

less than in the past because he was lucky enough to have a partially

successful operation. But what he told me about the condition scared

me because I had heard of a connection between TMJ and plagio. But I

have never seen any articles or statistics about it.

>

> Does anyone know more? I was thinking that this information may

help the drs see that helmets are not just for cosmetic reasons.

>

> (mom to - banded July 10, 2001)

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Just a thought, I am wondering if there have been studies done of kids at orphanages, since they are sometimes neglected in some areas of the world. I would think the prominence of plagio would be high, as many (sadly) are left in their cribs all day. Any thoughts? I'll try searching for something today...when the boss is away......he he

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In a message dated 07/13/2001 6:39:26 AM Central Daylight Time,

janethill00@... writes:

<< Symmetry is the key. >>

Janet,

Interesting philosophy!

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BTW~ Who is ?

is an anthropologist (as I recall), and has done tons of research for Cranial Technologies.

He has been a very helpful and supportive member of our group since it started!

Kendra in Canadafor information on positional plagiocephaly, visitwww.plagiocephaly.org/support..

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From: janethill00@...

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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:32 AM

Subject: Re: TMJ concern - , please read

I thought I might add something to this...Why is it so important for a house to be level? Without the proper foundation, cracks take place, and when it gets so bad contractors will come in and jack it up and fill it in. Symmetry is the key.~Janet~BTW~ Who is ?> :> To my knowledge, there is no concrete info on the TMJ/plagio relationship out there. This applies to many of the other possible side affects of plagio as well. Many of the possible side effects are purely speculation made by medical professionals, based on the way the body works, and how changing the shape of a skull can cause it to function differently (, are you there? Is this correct? Please let us know if this is wrong!). > > The plagio "epidemic" is a relatively new thing (since the back to sleep campaign began), and so many of the children who have/had plagio are not yet old enough to do studies on, or, no one has done them (again, that I'm aware of). There is one article out there that did a study on plagio kids and learning difficulties, by I found that it wasn't very conclusive.> > I hope this made sense to you, and I hope that , or another one of our "pro's" out there will confirm or correct this post (thanx!!).> Kendra in Canada> for information on positional plagiocephaly, visit> www.plagiocephaly.org/support> .> .> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Higgins > Plagiocephaly@y... > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 2:10 PM> Subject: TMJ concern> > > I was wondering if anyone had any concrete information regarding the chances of TMJ in the future for kids with plagio and/or tort?> > I have an adult friend who had very severe TMJ (from what cause, I don't know). This friend deals with pain every day, which is much less than in the past because he was lucky enough to have a partially successful operation. But what he told me about the condition scared me because I had heard of a connection between TMJ and plagio. But I have never seen any articles or statistics about it.> > Does anyone know more? I was thinking that this information may help the drs see that helmets are not just for cosmetic reasons.> > (mom to - banded July 10, 2001)> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.> > > > For more plagio info

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Hi. Just about 2 or 3 weeks ago, a woman in my town stopped me

to ask about Corey's band. I am slightly acquainted with her, as

we live in a small community, and I know they adopted a son last year when

he was 7. I gave her the short story and she called her son over

to me and I didn't notice any asymmetry in his face, but he was uncomfortable

and I didn't want to stare, but when he turned around I almost gasped,

his head was so flattened on the back left. She and the pediatrician have

discussed it and talked about whether or not it was due to the fat that

he was abandoned and I told her it was probably due to the orphanage and

lack of personnel to reposition him. He was born in Russia.

Her ped says he is not cognitively affected and her dentist has found no

problems with TMJ syndrom at this point. I have another friend whose

daughter was adopted from a relatively well off Russian orphanage and there

were only 3 women running the place, one to care for the children all day,

one to cook and one to do laundry that day; they rotated duties every so

often. I can only imagine what lesser equipped places would be like.

I know some of you guys have heard this story before, at least parts

of it, so to repeat myself!

(Corey's mommy DOC banded 5/4/01)

rella1234@... wrote:

Just a

thought, I am wondering if there have been studies done of kids at

orphanages, since they are

sometimes neglected in some areas of the world. I

would think the prominence

of plagio would be high, as many (sadly) are left

in their cribs all day.

Any thoughts? I'll try searching for something

today...when the boss is

away......he he

' Mom

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There have been a couple of women join the group, quite a while ago, who had adopted children from foreign countries. As I recall, one was from Russia, and one lady had one (maybe 2) from Viet Nam.

Check the archives if you're interested in their stories.

Kendra in Canadafor information on positional plagiocephaly, visitwww.plagiocephaly.org/support..

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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:02 PM

Subject: Re: TMJ concern - , please read

, Hi. Just about 2 or 3 weeks ago, a woman in my town stopped me to ask about Corey's band. I am slightly acquainted with her, as we live in a small community, and I know they adopted a son last year when he was 7. I gave her the short story and she called her son over to me and I didn't notice any asymmetry in his face, but he was uncomfortable and I didn't want to stare, but when he turned around I almost gasped, his head was so flattened on the back left. She and the pediatrician have discussed it and talked about whether or not it was due to the fat that he was abandoned and I told her it was probably due to the orphanage and lack of personnel to reposition him. He was born in Russia. Her ped says he is not cognitively affected and her dentist has found no problems with TMJ syndrom at this point. I have another friend whose daughter was adopted from a relatively well off Russian orphanage and there were only 3 women running the place, one to care for the children all day, one to cook and one to do laundry that day; they rotated duties every so often. I can only imagine what lesser equipped places would be like. I know some of you guys have heard this story before, at least parts of it, so to repeat myself! (Corey's mommy DOC banded 5/4/01) rella1234@... wrote: Just a thought, I am wondering if there have been studies done of kids at orphanages, since they are sometimes neglected in some areas of the world. I would think the prominence of plagio would be high, as many (sadly) are left in their cribs all day. Any thoughts? I'll try searching for something today...when the boss is away......he he ' Mom For more plagio info

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Thanks for the info, very interesting. I haven't been able to find follow-up studies on children with untreated plagio, I would be interested to learn what they are dealing with as side effects to the problem. Any insight? It is so sad to think of all those babies not only dealing with plagio, but detachment disorder as well!

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