Guest guest Posted November 18, 1999 Report Share Posted November 18, 1999 In a message dated 11/18/99 9:11:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, lisa@... writes: << What is the opinion on accepting the Article 15. >> The Article 15 punishes you for refusing a direct order. If you refuse the order more than once, you may receive another Article 15. You may be considered nondeployable. Dirt duty could be your future for the remainder of your enlistment. Court martial seems to be a direct route out only you could spend a few weeks in the brig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 We were just in the E.R a few weeks ago with our youngest and the doc asked if Noah was up to date....and I said " no, we don't vaccinate " and politely he asked why. I shared with him my convictions and research and he left it at that. I was surprised~ I agree about not opening up a can of worms...you just never know how ppl will take it these days if you tell them your not vaccinating. Tonja Helpmate to Terry Mum to , Naomi, Madaline and Noah Expecting our #5 blessing in April Your opinion If you are asked whether your kids are " up to date " on their vaccines oh lets say at an ER or something for a broken bone or whatever, what do you say. I know that some say yes because to them, they are, but it is not entirely true but who wants to open the can of worms if you don't have to? Diane & Jim Emerick Email us at: emerick@... Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 I don't say " yes " to the question of whether my daughter's vaccinated, but sidestep the question by saying, " She's fine. " If the question of whether she has been vaccinated is pertinent, I would just say no, she's not vaccinated, by choice. Then I'd explain as needed. I figure if it's not a relevant question to the condition presented at the ER (i.e., a split chin that is a non-tetanus concern), it's really none of their business. in CA Your opinion > If you are asked whether your kids are " up to date " on their vaccines oh lets say at an ER or something for a broken bone or whatever, what do you say. I know that some say yes because to them, they are, but it is not entirely true but who wants to open the can of worms if you don't have to? > > Diane & Jim Emerick > Email us at: emerick@... > Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) > Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) > Please visit our homepage at: > http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 I haven't had that happen. I had this friend I'm goign to speak of remove the icky fishing hook from 's knee this fall. We made it bleed just a little bit and cleaned it really well. I gave him Vit C & Vit A & D for 3 days and the wound never even really turned red. This family always says YES when they have to go to the ER (which has been twice in the last year and never before that the kdis are 10 & 8) Me? I dunno what I'd say. I'd likely just make sure that I was carrying a copy of our exemption letter to the school system, since they are the determining factor in the legitimacy of a religious waiver (In Illinois). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Well when DS went for stitches and they asked if he was up to date all I said was he has all he needs and they left it at that. They never asked again I didnt come right out and SAY NO I didnt want to go into it but and I feel cps. good luck amy Head snow mommy to 4 snowballs [unable to display image] <A HREF= " http://www.theforgotten.com/vaccines " >Did you know</A> <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/chevy974/myhomepagebaby.html " >The Haskett bunch</A> <A HREF= " http://babiesonline.com/babies/c/chaela/ " >Chaela, born 12/22/2000</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 I had to take my 3 year old in for stitches a few months ago and they asked, " Are there any religious convictions that might affect his care? " and I answered that we don't vaccinate. She made a note on his chart and that was it. Your opinion > If you are asked whether your kids are " up to date " on their vaccines oh lets say at an ER or something for a broken bone or whatever, what do you say. I know that some say yes because to them, they are, but it is not entirely true but who wants to open the can of worms if you don't have to? > > Diane & Jim Emerick > Email us at: emerick@... > Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) > Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) > Please visit our homepage at: > http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 < " Are there any religious convictions that might affect his care? " > Wow...they came right out with it huh? LOL Diane & Jim Emerick Email us at: emerick@... Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 Well in the ER it seems a logical question to ask, there are certain religious beliefs which prevent transfusions and other things which can often be considered part of emergency care. Diane Re: Your opinion < " Are there any religious convictions that might affect his care? " > Wow...they came right out with it huh? LOL Diane & Jim Emerick Email us at: emerick@... Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 You're right...it IS logical. But i have NEVER been asked that ever. Diane & Jim Emerick Email us at: emerick@... Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Re: Your opinion < " Are there any religious convictions that might affect his care? " > Wow...they came right out with it huh? LOL Diane & Jim Emerick Email us at: emerick@... Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 Well in the ER it seems a logical question to ask, there are certain religious beliefs which prevent transfusions and other things which can often be considered part of emergency care. I've been to the ER with Chase 4 x (asthma x 2, RSV, and eating a christmas ornament) and 3x (asthma, and migraines x 2) I've never been asked if there were any religious convictions, only " what religion are you " That says absolutely nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 I guess its not so much a lie as a heavy assumption. If I said my child was up to date I'm sure the next question would be...when was their last tetanus shot and there opens the can of worms. LOL Diane & Jim Emerick Email us at: emerick@... Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Your opinion Diane, We have one homeopathic vet who puts in writing for those that need it that this canine has had all the vaccines I deem appropriate for the species. Since he is a complete no vax vet the dog is up to date on the vaccinations. It is the same with a child - in your estimation the child is up to date. It isn't a lie - it's a very knowledgeable statement. Jackie Noel www.sagaciousairedales.com www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 After my daughter was born we had to go to the hospital because of jaundice. The doctors and interns there asked if we had given her the Hep B vaccine (think that is the one they try to push at birth). I think it was more because they were thinking that was what was causing her problems not that they wanted to make sure she was vaccinated. I do remember the card they wanted everyone to fill out that pried into your living environment and vaccination records. I left it blank in the drawer of the dresser when we left. : ) It depends on the situation whether I say yes we are up to date. At first when we would see the pediatrician the nurse would always ask if we were up to date on vaccines. I would say yes, we don't vaccinate so she is up to date for us. : ) Don't know why it wasn't obvious from her charts that we didnt. Barbara Your opinion > If you are asked whether your kids are " up to date " on their vaccines oh lets say at an ER or something for a broken bone or whatever, what do you say. I know that some say yes because to them, they are, but it is not entirely true but who wants to open the can of worms if you don't have to? > > Diane & Jim Emerick > Email us at: emerick@... > Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) > Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) > Please visit our homepage at: > http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 They ask what religion, because they know the Mormon or Jehovas witness religion do not accept blood transfusions....so they want to have it on record incase something were to happen. Tonja Helpmate to Terry Mum to , Naomi, Madaline and Noah Expecting our #5 blessing in April Re: Your opinion Well in the ER it seems a logical question to ask, there are certain religious beliefs which prevent transfusions and other things which can often be considered part of emergency care. I've been to the ER with Chase 4 x (asthma x 2, RSV, and eating a christmas ornament) and 3x (asthma, and migraines x 2) I've never been asked if there were any religious convictions, only " what religion are you " That says absolutely nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 They probably got either a very thorough student or new grad.....When I was in school, we had a script that we had to get through with each patient. LOL, Diane Re: Your opinion < " Are there any religious convictions that might affect his care? " > Wow...they came right out with it huh? LOL Diane & Jim Emerick Email us at: emerick@... Blake, almost 5 years old (12-25-97) Amber, 21 1/2 months old (2-17-01) Please visit our homepage at: http://theemericks.homestead.com/family.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 The one major religion that I am aware of is Jehovah's Witness, there may be others that I have not run in to. Diane Re: Your opinion Well in the ER it seems a logical question to ask, there are certain religious beliefs which prevent transfusions and other things which can often be considered part of emergency care. I've been to the ER with Chase 4 x (asthma x 2, RSV, and eating a christmas ornament) and 3x (asthma, and migraines x 2) I've never been asked if there were any religious convictions, only " what religion are you " That says absolutely nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2002 Report Share Posted December 9, 2002 ----- Re: Your opinion > > > Well in the ER it seems a logical question to ask, there are certain religious beliefs which prevent transfusions and other things which can often be considered part of emergency care. > > I've been to the ER with Chase 4 x (asthma x 2, RSV, and eating a christmas ornament) and 3x (asthma, and migraines x 2) I've never been asked if there were any religious convictions, only " what religion are you " That says absolutely nothing! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 A book that may help you is Mendelsohn's book How to Raise a Healthy Child In Spite of Your Doctor. He's an MD, and while it's not geared towards homeopathics, it does make some wonderful recommendations on treating your children at home. I'm finding it soooo fascinating. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 , I'm going to leave it to the experts on this list to answer your questions specifically, but I just wanted to say that i'm in your same boat. I'm not as educated on the subject of homeopathic medicine as I'd like to be (I take Sherri's online course whenever the time presents itself) but I believe what little I do know and it makes much more sense to me than what I hear from the allopathic doctors I used to go too. Stick with it and stick to your guns and remember that when we were little our parents never gave us things like tylenol -- they gave us baths and compresses and things like that so don't cave to the pressure of the family telling you that you need to give tylenol. I hope he feels better soon. Duran <nicers88@...> wrote: Hi Everyone, I wanted to start a dialogue and forgive me if this is truly an off-topic. I think it fits here because it is about disease and how we help our little ones stay as healthy as possible. When I decided not to vax our 8 month old son, I was under the false illusion that he would *never* be sick and remain continually healthy with a strong immune system. That theory has been tested as he is now ill for the second time. The first with Roseola a month ago and now a pretty bad case of the flu. I now understand the benefits of disease in building our immune system and response and even more importantly about how suppression with Tylenol, Ibupforen and other pharmaceuticals don't work in the best natural way and can even be fatally dangerous! Before I never questioned-with my daughter, over the counter meds were my best friend whenever she became sick which was often. So here I am with my son and have yet to give him any over the counter junk and we try to avoid our Ped whenever possible. We have suffered together through his fevers and symptoms. Now, he has had a fever of 100 for 5 days, he is not bfeeding much or eating any table food, acts as if he is in a lot of pain, has restless sleep, has a lot of discharge from the eyes and one ear, has an extremely runny nose, is congested with a cough that is rattling in his chest and is inconsolable. He rally's for a few hours in the morning and afternoon and it feels like his fever breaks, but then the night holds the same symptoms. This was happening on a full family vacation over Thanksgiving and I was attacked for not giving him Tylenol and letting nature take it's course. I stood my ground but of course was second guessing myself-I would anyway because I hate to see them in pain. I am having a hard time with knowing when to draw the line and go the allopathic route, even if a little, or not. When do you go to the doctor? A natural approach is new to me so I am not totally comfortable yet, although I fully believe in this approach and want to stick with it. Of course we saw a Homeopath today which I am thankful for, but what if we don't have the right remedy or it takes a while to do its healing? How do I comfort my son in the meantime and help progress the healing? You all are the only people in my life that support this way of living and thinking. I know from hearing from you that you have been in my position before and still go there at times. How do you stay strong when everyone is against you and your child is feeling horrible? When do you know when to go to the doctor or take meds? Thanks for listening to my rant! I have had 4 days of no sleep and just need a release and support! Also, can someone forward the info on what type of Vit C is best and where you can purchase it? I can't find that info in my files... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 You are not alone. My 22 month old son just recovered from the flu. He was really sick for about 3-4 days and at one point, he was just miserable. I broke down and gave him one dose of tylenol one night because I had the same flu and I know how bad my throat hurt(I wanted to cry). So, instead of giving him all day meds to reduce fever, etc., I only used it when he was really, really uncomfortable and needed sleep. The rest of the time I just held him, nursed him, and used hot steam from the shower to keep his lungs clear. That really helped a lot. I also gave him plenty of fluids. He actually recovered from it much faster than the rest of the family and I attribute it to us not vaxing, extended breastfeeding and not overdoing it with pain meds. Regarding vitamin C - sodium ascorbate is supposed to be the best source. I hope he feels better soon. Lynne > > Hi Everyone, > > I wanted to start a dialogue and forgive me if this is truly an off-topic. I think it fits here because it is about disease and how we help our little ones stay as healthy as possible. When I decided not to vax our 8 month old son, I was under the false illusion that he would *never* be sick and remain continually healthy with a strong immune system. That theory has been tested as he is now ill for the second time. The first with Roseola a month ago and now a pretty bad case of the flu. I now understand the benefits of disease in building our immune system and response and even more importantly about how suppression with Tylenol, Ibupforen and other pharmaceuticals don't work in the best natural way and can even be fatally dangerous! Before I never questioned-with my daughter, over the counter meds were my best friend whenever she became sick which was often. So here I am with my son and have yet to give him any over the counter junk and we try to avoid our Ped whenever > possible. We have suffered together through his fevers and symptoms. Now, he has had a fever of 100 for 5 days, he is not bfeeding much or eating any table food, acts as if he is in a lot of pain, has restless sleep, has a lot of discharge from the eyes and one ear, has an extremely runny nose, is congested with a cough that is rattling in his chest and is inconsolable. He rally's for a few hours in the morning and afternoon and it feels like his fever breaks, but then the night holds the same symptoms. This was happening on a full family vacation over Thanksgiving and I was attacked for not giving him Tylenol and letting nature take it's course. I stood my ground but of course was second guessing myself-I would anyway because I hate to see them in pain. I am having a hard time with knowing when to draw the line and go the allopathic route, even if a little, or not. When do you go to the doctor? A natural approach is new to me so I am not totally comfortable yet, although > I fully believe in this approach and want to stick with it. Of course we saw a Homeopath today which I am thankful for, but what if we don't have the right remedy or it takes a while to do its healing? How do I comfort my son in the meantime and help progress the healing? > > You all are the only people in my life that support this way of living and thinking. I know from hearing from you that you have been in my position before and still go there at times. How do you stay strong when everyone is against you and your child is feeling horrible? When do you know when to go to the doctor or take meds? > > Thanks for listening to my rant! I have had 4 days of no sleep and just need a release and support! > > Also, can someone forward the info on what type of Vit C is best and where you can purchase it? I can't find that info in my files... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Thanks to everyone who responded...We have been trying the natural route for 5 days and my husband who is not 100% on board with me said it was now time to compromise & go to the doctor. They confirmed he had a double ear infection and 102 temp, and of course recommended antibiotics. I cried the whole way home! I DONT want to give antibiotics, esp since we gave him a constitutional remedy today and I want that to work. So I told my husband to give us 2 more days and if it has not improved we will then do the round of antibiotics ;(. I am now treating him with muellen oil in the ears and vit C (I only have Acsorbic Acid-I don't have Sodium Ascorbate). He is in sooooo much pain he won't breastfeed as much as normal which is stressing me. I pumped and am going to try and give it in a bottle. I myself loaded up on Vit c and cod liver oil too. I am mostly concerned about the pain he is in-I want him to feel comfortable. Any advice? lynne0312 <lablanchard@...> wrote: You are not alone. My 22 month old son just recovered from the flu. He was really sick for about 3-4 days and at one point, he was just miserable. I broke down and gave him one dose of tylenol one night because I had the same flu and I know how bad my throat hurt(I wanted to cry). So, instead of giving him all day meds to reduce fever, etc., I only used it when he was really, really uncomfortable and needed sleep. The rest of the time I just held him, nursed him, and used hot steam from the shower to keep his lungs clear. That really helped a lot. I also gave him plenty of fluids. He actually recovered from it much faster than the rest of the family and I attribute it to us not vaxing, extended breastfeeding and not overdoing it with pain meds. Regarding vitamin C - sodium ascorbate is supposed to be the best source. I hope he feels better soon. Lynne > > Hi Everyone, > > I wanted to start a dialogue and forgive me if this is truly an off-topic. I think it fits here because it is about disease and how we help our little ones stay as healthy as possible. When I decided not to vax our 8 month old son, I was under the false illusion that he would *never* be sick and remain continually healthy with a strong immune system. That theory has been tested as he is now ill for the second time. The first with Roseola a month ago and now a pretty bad case of the flu. I now understand the benefits of disease in building our immune system and response and even more importantly about how suppression with Tylenol, Ibupforen and other pharmaceuticals don't work in the best natural way and can even be fatally dangerous! Before I never questioned-with my daughter, over the counter meds were my best friend whenever she became sick which was often. So here I am with my son and have yet to give him any over the counter junk and we try to avoid our Ped whenever > possible. We have suffered together through his fevers and symptoms. Now, he has had a fever of 100 for 5 days, he is not bfeeding much or eating any table food, acts as if he is in a lot of pain, has restless sleep, has a lot of discharge from the eyes and one ear, has an extremely runny nose, is congested with a cough that is rattling in his chest and is inconsolable. He rally's for a few hours in the morning and afternoon and it feels like his fever breaks, but then the night holds the same symptoms. This was happening on a full family vacation over Thanksgiving and I was attacked for not giving him Tylenol and letting nature take it's course. I stood my ground but of course was second guessing myself-I would anyway because I hate to see them in pain. I am having a hard time with knowing when to draw the line and go the allopathic route, even if a little, or not. When do you go to the doctor? A natural approach is new to me so I am not totally comfortable yet, although > I fully believe in this approach and want to stick with it. Of course we saw a Homeopath today which I am thankful for, but what if we don't have the right remedy or it takes a while to do its healing? How do I comfort my son in the meantime and help progress the healing? > > You all are the only people in my life that support this way of living and thinking. I know from hearing from you that you have been in my position before and still go there at times. How do you stay strong when everyone is against you and your child is feeling horrible? When do you know when to go to the doctor or take meds? > > Thanks for listening to my rant! I have had 4 days of no sleep and just need a release and support! > > Also, can someone forward the info on what type of Vit C is best and where you can purchase it? I can't find that info in my files... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Try some of the things here: http://www.healthy.net/scr/Author.asp?PeoId=623 Some other things I do for illness: mitoku foods like hatcho(sp) miso,ume,kuzu. Now brand slippery elm powder and/or sodium ascorbate.Lifeway brand kefir. --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Do, however, bear in mind that there is the potential for other modalities to interact with the homeopathic remedy, and possibly affect it. Are you able to contact your son's homeopath to ask for advice? While you have been prescribed a constitutional remedy, I would imagine your homeopath would have taken your son's acute condition into account in the prescription. I would give them a call and ask for advice based on the allopathic diagnosis and a/b prescription. HTH. Sue xx > > > Try some of the things here: > http://www.healthy.net/scr/Author.asp?PeoId=623 > > Some other things I do for illness: mitoku foods like > hatcho(sp) miso,ume,kuzu. > Now brand slippery elm powder and/or sodium ascorbate.Lifeway > brand kefir. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Have you tried onion juice OR olive oil (slightly warmed before putting in ear)? Both terrific remedies for ear infections, and usually have an immediate impact on the pain as well, but if they don't reduce the pain in 15 to 30 minutes, I'd consider one dose of pain reliever to take the edge off. The body heals when it gets rest, which can't happen if the child is in constant pain. Health & blessings, Safe, Powerful, *GREEN* and Smart! http://www.shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 On 11/28/06, Orr <@...> wrote: > > Have you tried putting breastmilk in his ears? That's supposed to clear up > ear infections. > > Duran <nicers88@...> wrote: Thanks to everyone who > responded...We have been trying the natural route for 5 days and my husband > who is not 100% on board with me said it was now time to compromise & go to > the doctor. They confirmed he had a double ear infection and 102 temp, and > of course recommended antibiotics. I cried the whole way home! I DONT want > to give antibiotics, esp since we gave him a constitutional remedy today and > I want that to work. So I told my husband to give us 2 more days and if it > has not improved we will then do the round of antibiotics ;(. I am now > treating him with muellen oil in the ears and vit C (I only have Acsorbic > Acid-I don't have Sodium Ascorbate). He is in sooooo much pain he won't > breastfeed as much as normal which is stressing me. I pumped and am going to > try and give it in a bottle. I myself loaded up on Vit c and cod liver oil > too. I am mostly concerned about the pain he is in-I want him to feel > comfortable. Any > advice? > > > > lynne0312 <lablanchard@...> wrote: > You are not alone. My 22 month old son just recovered from the flu. > He was really sick for about 3-4 days and at one point, he was just > miserable. I broke down and gave him one dose of tylenol one night > because I had the same flu and I know how bad my throat hurt(I wanted > to cry). So, instead of giving him all day meds to reduce fever, > etc., I only used it when he was really, really uncomfortable and > needed sleep. The rest of the time I just held him, nursed him, and > used hot steam from the shower to keep his lungs clear. That really > helped a lot. I also gave him plenty of fluids. He actually > recovered from it much faster than the rest of the family and I > attribute it to us not vaxing, extended breastfeeding and not > overdoing it with pain meds. > > Regarding vitamin C - sodium ascorbate is supposed to be the best > source. > > I hope he feels better soon. > > Lynne > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I wanted to start a dialogue and forgive me if this is truly an > off-topic. I think it fits here because it is about disease and how > we help our little ones stay as healthy as possible. When I decided > not to vax our 8 month old son, I was under the false illusion that > he would *never* be sick and remain continually healthy with a strong > immune system. That theory has been tested as he is now ill for the > second time. The first with Roseola a month ago and now a pretty bad > case of the flu. I now understand the benefits of disease in building > our immune system and response and even more importantly about how > suppression with Tylenol, Ibupforen and other pharmaceuticals don't > work in the best natural way and can even be fatally dangerous! > Before I never questioned-with my daughter, over the counter meds > were my best friend whenever she became sick which was often. So here > I am with my son and have yet to give him any over the counter junk > and we try to avoid our Ped whenever > > possible. We have suffered together through his fevers and > symptoms. Now, he has had a fever of 100 for 5 days, he is not > bfeeding much or eating any table food, acts as if he is in a lot of > pain, has restless sleep, has a lot of discharge from the eyes and > one ear, has an extremely runny nose, is congested with a cough that > is rattling in his chest and is inconsolable. He rally's for a few > hours in the morning and afternoon and it feels like his fever > breaks, but then the night holds the same symptoms. This was > happening on a full family vacation over Thanksgiving and I was > attacked for not giving him Tylenol and letting nature take it's > course. I stood my ground but of course was second guessing myself-I > would anyway because I hate to see them in pain. I am having a hard > time with knowing when to draw the line and go the allopathic route, > even if a little, or not. When do you go to the doctor? A natural > approach is new to me so I am not totally comfortable yet, although > > I fully believe in this approach and want to stick with it. Of > course we saw a Homeopath today which I am thankful for, but what if > we don't have the right remedy or it takes a while to do its healing? > How do I comfort my son in the meantime and help progress the healing? > > > > You all are the only people in my life that support this way of > living and thinking. I know from hearing from you that you have been > in my position before and still go there at times. How do you stay > strong when everyone is against you and your child is feeling > horrible? When do you know when to go to the doctor or take meds? > > > > Thanks for listening to my rant! I have had 4 days of no sleep > and just need a release and support! > > > > Also, can someone forward the info on what type of Vit C is best > and where you can purchase it? I can't find that info in my files... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 At 01:33 AM 11/28/2006 -0800, you wrote: >Have you tried putting breastmilk in his ears? That's supposed to clear up ear infections. > > Duran <nicers88@...> wrote: Thanks to everyone who responded...We have been trying the natural route for 5 days and my husband who is not 100% on board with me said it was now time to compromise & go to the doctor. They confirmed he had a double ear infection and 102 temp, and of course recommended antibiotics. I cried the whole way home! I DONT want to give antibiotics, esp since we gave him a constitutional remedy today and I want that to work. So I told my husband to give us 2 more days and if it has not improved we will then do the round of antibiotics ;(. I am now treating him with muellen oil in the ears and vit C (I only have Acsorbic Acid-I don't have Sodium Ascorbate). He is in sooooo much pain he won't breastfeed as much as normal which is stressing me. I pumped and am going to try and give it in a bottle. I myself loaded up on Vit c and cod liver oil too. I am mostly concerned about the pain he is in-I want him to feel comfortable. Any > advice? > There is NO need to give antibiotics for ear infections EVEN their studies show you get better in the same length of time. He should not be taking a constitutional remedy today, but a remedy for his acute illness Does your homeopath know he is acutely ill right now? Ascorbic Acid is fine The right remedy will take away his pain I will send the earache remedy list - look at those and find one and give in 200c if you can or 30c if you don't have 200c or check with your homeopath A constitutional never will deal with an acute He needs a remedy specifically for that Does your homeopath know about the avcute illness? I'll send vit c info Sheri > > >lynne0312 <lablanchard@...> wrote: >You are not alone. My 22 month old son just recovered from the flu. >He was really sick for about 3-4 days and at one point, he was just >miserable. I broke down and gave him one dose of tylenol one night >because I had the same flu and I know how bad my throat hurt(I wanted >to cry). So, instead of giving him all day meds to reduce fever, >etc., I only used it when he was really, really uncomfortable and >needed sleep. The rest of the time I just held him, nursed him, and >used hot steam from the shower to keep his lungs clear. That really >helped a lot. I also gave him plenty of fluids. He actually >recovered from it much faster than the rest of the family and I >attribute it to us not vaxing, extended breastfeeding and not >overdoing it with pain meds. > >Regarding vitamin C - sodium ascorbate is supposed to be the best >source. > >I hope he feels better soon. > >Lynne > > >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I wanted to start a dialogue and forgive me if this is truly an >off-topic. I think it fits here because it is about disease and how >we help our little ones stay as healthy as possible. When I decided >not to vax our 8 month old son, I was under the false illusion that >he would *never* be sick and remain continually healthy with a strong >immune system. That theory has been tested as he is now ill for the >second time. The first with Roseola a month ago and now a pretty bad >case of the flu. I now understand the benefits of disease in building >our immune system and response and even more importantly about how >suppression with Tylenol, Ibupforen and other pharmaceuticals don't >work in the best natural way and can even be fatally dangerous! >Before I never questioned-with my daughter, over the counter meds >were my best friend whenever she became sick which was often. So here >I am with my son and have yet to give him any over the counter junk >and we try to avoid our Ped whenever >> possible. We have suffered together through his fevers and >symptoms. Now, he has had a fever of 100 for 5 days, he is not >bfeeding much or eating any table food, acts as if he is in a lot of >pain, has restless sleep, has a lot of discharge from the eyes and >one ear, has an extremely runny nose, is congested with a cough that >is rattling in his chest and is inconsolable. He rally's for a few >hours in the morning and afternoon and it feels like his fever >breaks, but then the night holds the same symptoms. This was >happening on a full family vacation over Thanksgiving and I was >attacked for not giving him Tylenol and letting nature take it's >course. I stood my ground but of course was second guessing myself-I >would anyway because I hate to see them in pain. I am having a hard >time with knowing when to draw the line and go the allopathic route, >even if a little, or not. When do you go to the doctor? A natural >approach is new to me so I am not totally comfortable yet, although >> I fully believe in this approach and want to stick with it. Of >course we saw a Homeopath today which I am thankful for, but what if >we don't have the right remedy or it takes a while to do its healing? >How do I comfort my son in the meantime and help progress the healing? >> >> You all are the only people in my life that support this way of >living and thinking. I know from hearing from you that you have been >in my position before and still go there at times. How do you stay >strong when everyone is against you and your child is feeling >horrible? When do you know when to go to the doctor or take meds? >> >> Thanks for listening to my rant! I have had 4 days of no sleep >and just need a release and support! >> >> Also, can someone forward the info on what type of Vit C is best >and where you can purchase it? I can't find that info in my files... >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Hi Sheri, Thanks for getting back to me! Yes, she knows of his acute and saw him and how sick he was. I had been in the mountains for Thanksgiving and brought my remedies with me. I treated him with Chamomila 200C for 24 hours and did not get an improvement. When his symptoms changed and he started discharging from the eyes and ears I consulted my Miranda Castro book and felt he needed Pulsitilla which I administered in 30C for 2 days and still no improvement-he acted and looked as if he was getting worse. So I called her and made an appt. She then gave him a 200C of Lycopodium, in one dose and said not to retreat for at least two days...I thought from your teachings I would keep giving until it showed signs of improvement. Last night he was just laying in the bed writhing in pain with a constant weak whining. I thought perhaps the treatement was working in the way of getting worse before getting better. This morning his fever has broken, his eyes are no longer discharging (I put a lot of Breastmilk in them) and he seems in better spirits. I can tell though that his ears still bother him-just not in such an extreme manner. What do you think? Do you think this remedy will aid in healing his earache? From a hom standpoint, what do you do now? Thank you for all the information on earaches and antibiotics....just what I needed to hear to strengthen my resolve. My son likes to lay in bed while nursing through the night...could this cause his ear infection? Should he be upright when he is eating? Thanks again! Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 01:33 AM 11/28/2006 -0800, you wrote: >Have you tried putting breastmilk in his ears? That's supposed to clear up ear infections. > > Duran <nicers88@...> wrote: Thanks to everyone who responded...We have been trying the natural route for 5 days and my husband who is not 100% on board with me said it was now time to compromise & go to the doctor. They confirmed he had a double ear infection and 102 temp, and of course recommended antibiotics. I cried the whole way home! I DONT want to give antibiotics, esp since we gave him a constitutional remedy today and I want that to work. So I told my husband to give us 2 more days and if it has not improved we will then do the round of antibiotics ;(. I am now treating him with muellen oil in the ears and vit C (I only have Acsorbic Acid-I don't have Sodium Ascorbate). He is in sooooo much pain he won't breastfeed as much as normal which is stressing me. I pumped and am going to try and give it in a bottle. I myself loaded up on Vit c and cod liver oil too. I am mostly concerned about the pain he is in-I want him to feel comfortable. Any > advice? > There is NO need to give antibiotics for ear infections EVEN their studies show you get better in the same length of time. He should not be taking a constitutional remedy today, but a remedy for his acute illness Does your homeopath know he is acutely ill right now? Ascorbic Acid is fine The right remedy will take away his pain I will send the earache remedy list - look at those and find one and give in 200c if you can or 30c if you don't have 200c or check with your homeopath A constitutional never will deal with an acute He needs a remedy specifically for that Does your homeopath know about the avcute illness? I'll send vit c info Sheri > > >lynne0312 <lablanchard@...> wrote: >You are not alone. My 22 month old son just recovered from the flu. >He was really sick for about 3-4 days and at one point, he was just >miserable. I broke down and gave him one dose of tylenol one night >because I had the same flu and I know how bad my throat hurt(I wanted >to cry). So, instead of giving him all day meds to reduce fever, >etc., I only used it when he was really, really uncomfortable and >needed sleep. The rest of the time I just held him, nursed him, and >used hot steam from the shower to keep his lungs clear. That really >helped a lot. I also gave him plenty of fluids. He actually >recovered from it much faster than the rest of the family and I >attribute it to us not vaxing, extended breastfeeding and not >overdoing it with pain meds. > >Regarding vitamin C - sodium ascorbate is supposed to be the best >source. > >I hope he feels better soon. > >Lynne > > >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I wanted to start a dialogue and forgive me if this is truly an >off-topic. I think it fits here because it is about disease and how >we help our little ones stay as healthy as possible. When I decided >not to vax our 8 month old son, I was under the false illusion that >he would *never* be sick and remain continually healthy with a strong >immune system. That theory has been tested as he is now ill for the >second time. The first with Roseola a month ago and now a pretty bad >case of the flu. I now understand the benefits of disease in building >our immune system and response and even more importantly about how >suppression with Tylenol, Ibupforen and other pharmaceuticals don't >work in the best natural way and can even be fatally dangerous! >Before I never questioned-with my daughter, over the counter meds >were my best friend whenever she became sick which was often. So here >I am with my son and have yet to give him any over the counter junk >and we try to avoid our Ped whenever >> possible. We have suffered together through his fevers and >symptoms. Now, he has had a fever of 100 for 5 days, he is not >bfeeding much or eating any table food, acts as if he is in a lot of >pain, has restless sleep, has a lot of discharge from the eyes and >one ear, has an extremely runny nose, is congested with a cough that >is rattling in his chest and is inconsolable. He rally's for a few >hours in the morning and afternoon and it feels like his fever >breaks, but then the night holds the same symptoms. This was >happening on a full family vacation over Thanksgiving and I was >attacked for not giving him Tylenol and letting nature take it's >course. I stood my ground but of course was second guessing myself-I >would anyway because I hate to see them in pain. I am having a hard >time with knowing when to draw the line and go the allopathic route, >even if a little, or not. When do you go to the doctor? A natural >approach is new to me so I am not totally comfortable yet, although >> I fully believe in this approach and want to stick with it. Of >course we saw a Homeopath today which I am thankful for, but what if >we don't have the right remedy or it takes a while to do its healing? >How do I comfort my son in the meantime and help progress the healing? >> >> You all are the only people in my life that support this way of >living and thinking. I know from hearing from you that you have been >in my position before and still go there at times. How do you stay >strong when everyone is against you and your child is feeling >horrible? When do you know when to go to the doctor or take meds? >> >> Thanks for listening to my rant! I have had 4 days of no sleep >and just need a release and support! >> >> Also, can someone forward the info on what type of Vit C is best >and where you can purchase it? I can't find that info in my files... >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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