Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Jenni, I want to thank you for showing us all of her great works of art me being a newbie I have not seen all this even though I agreed with I felt sorry for her because I thought she was going through something but now as I can see she is going through more than a few things... I think she is just trying to bring kayos to the group and feeds off the attention so as of right now no more attention from me... giftedtch <giftedtch@...> wrote: I'm sorry...I have to laugh at some of the recent postings about insensitive comments. It sounds like a bunch of pansy little girls getting their feathers ruffled at someones birthday party or something! Oh my God! I can't be the only one who finds the postings and antics of Miamiangel to be quite comical! There are obviously more problems than obesity with which this woman is dealing! No one on this board should apologize for anything they say! That is the beauty of and the nature of this beast! I've been hanging out here longer than most who still post and I find it quite interesting that it is always the same people time and time again who try to stir up trouble on this board. If you wanna know what I am talking about, read all the posts below! These were all posted by Miamiangel. Quite entertaining!Life is Great! (And often entertaining even at the expense of others!)Jenni CurriePosted Sept. 5Re: When to schedule surgery? My post is going to seem harsh in comparison to the others you'vereceived, but in my opinion . . .I say go on the cruise and enjoy yourself and THEN come back andschedule your surgery. This close to cruise date you will still behealing and on your liquid phase, neither of these will contribute toa good time vacation.I am not saying that the surgery is bad and I completely believe thatthis will be a great thing in my life (I'm 13 days out), but I noticeon these posts that the old-timers (those who are already on aregular diet) seem to gloss over the misery of recovery. The liquiddiet phase sucks! I am hungry and I'm sick (I developed a horriblecold), and I can't even keep my strength up with nourishment. Andthe promises of losing 25 - 30lbs are also dependent upon eachindividual (and far-fetched). You may only lose a few poundsinitially.So, truthfully, HAVE the surgery! It will change your life, but ifyou already have a special time with your husband planned go andenjoy that now. The rest of your life has waited this long, twoextra weeks will not be the end.Posted Friday, Sept. 8.This is part of the problem with the old-timers glossing over themisery of recovery period or slightly exaggerating their actualweight loss. It gives those of us who have yet to go through it afalse sense of what should be happening. I am only 15 days out andknow EXACTLY what you are feeling right now. Eileen (who was bandedthe same day as me) is right about the first week being moredifficult than the second. And please do get plenty of protein, itwill help stave off the hunger a bit, but don't expect it to take itaway completely. There is just no way that liquid of any kind canstay in your little pouch long enough to keep you from being hungryfor very long. But we do need healing time and have to suffer (YES ISAID SUFFER) through this period to protect our own health.As far as not losing any weight so far, remember each body isdifferent and frankly the larger you are to begin with the moreexcess water weight will fall off initially. Please don't bediscouraged by the claims of "bandsters" losing 15 pounds overnightand everyone else's huge initial success. Your body will adjust tolosing the weight slow and steady over a period of time, and this isactually a healthier way to lose the weight. Keep to the post opdiet, it is not only beneficial to your triumph in the long run, itis essential for your health and healing. Remember, the outside ofyou maybe scabbed over, but the inside of you was injured also andneeds it's rebuilding time.Posted Sept. 8Re: I need help Before you get on your high horse about my being a "baby" in the lap-band world, you might want to know from where you speak! I researched my surgery through three years and several seminars. I belong to groups here in my area and actually KNOW and have watched REAL lap-band patients over these last three years. NOT ONE OF THEM LOST 25 TO 30 POUNDS IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD !!!!! The many various doctors I have spoken to (in-depth) and discussed these phenomena's with also assure me that they are slight to gross exaggerations. Joe (who was the heaviest patient I've seen over these years at 457lbs) lost the most I have witnessed and that was 19lbs in a two week turn around.I have read the archives and I dislike the intimations that as soon as you have your surgery you'll be down some ridiculous amount of weight in just a few days. Leading neophytes to believe they are failing if they aren't. I have read the archives and I find it objectionable that the posts ALL seem to say things like, "I actually enjoyed the liquid diet phase." and "it really wasn't that bad." and the ever popular, "with liquid protein I wasn't hungry at all". Those statements my dear friend, are flat out LIES !!!!! It IS difficult (at varying levels for everybody)! You ARE going to be hungry! No amount of liquid can maintain a "full" feeling for any length of time. And you MAY only lose a couple of pounds initially, and IT IS NOT BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WORKED THEIR BUTT OFF AND YOU DIDN'T! It is simply because EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT! No one begrudges when someone does well. My protest comes from the "sell them at all costs" attitude. Be honest about the difficulties AND the successes and people will be able to make the proper decisions about their surgery. YES there is a selective memory loss when it comes to the suffering of recovery and YES there are slight embellishments when it comes to the actual numbers on the scale. Deny it if you want; I am only grateful that I was truly aware of the pros and cons prior to my surgery by factual witnessed experiences, or this message board would have given me a false sense of reality !Posted Sept. 9For those of you who for some reason seem to think I should somehow be ashamed of myself for sharing an opinion (that was clearly solicited) - Get Over Yourselves.I was responding to (and ONLY) who seemed confused that she was having such a hard time so early on when she Clearly seemed to feel that the difficulties she was experiencing were not shared by others. Am I ashamed for telling her that there are actually others going through the same thing and that it is in fact more common then seemed to appear? - I Am Not! Am I ashamed to tell her that not only based on what I have actually witnessed with real life people over the past three years, but also experienced myself only one short week prior? - I Am Not! I am "ruffled", "offended" or any of the other things you accused me of being just because you didn't like what I was telling her? - I Am Not! Am I concerned about what you think of me or say about me either here on this forum or to yourselves? - I Am Not!If I choose to respond to someone asking a question in the future, I believe that I will reply to them personally. As clearly the rest of you have issues with any opinions that differ from your own. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 OK I said I was not going to say anymore but I lied Miamiangel ( DON'T GO AWAY MAD JUST GO AWAY!!!!)giftedtch <giftedtch@...> wrote: I'm sorry...I have to laugh at some of the recent postings about insensitive comments. It sounds like a bunch of pansy little girls getting their feathers ruffled at someones birthday party or something! Oh my God! I can't be the only one who finds the postings and antics of Miamiangel to be quite comical! There are obviously more problems than obesity with which this woman is dealing! No one on this board should apologize for anything they say! That is the beauty of and the nature of this beast! I've been hanging out here longer than most who still post and I find it quite interesting that it is always the same people time and time again who try to stir up trouble on this board. If you wanna know what I am talking about, read all the posts below! These were all posted by Miamiangel. Quite entertaining!Life is Great! (And often entertaining even at the expense of others!)Jenni CurriePosted Sept. 5Re: When to schedule surgery? My post is going to seem harsh in comparison to the others you'vereceived, but in my opinion . . .I say go on the cruise and enjoy yourself and THEN come back andschedule your surgery. This close to cruise date you will still behealing and on your liquid phase, neither of these will contribute toa good time vacation.I am not saying that the surgery is bad and I completely believe thatthis will be a great thing in my life (I'm 13 days out), but I noticeon these posts that the old-timers (those who are already on aregular diet) seem to gloss over the misery of recovery. The liquiddiet phase sucks! I am hungry and I'm sick (I developed a horriblecold), and I can't even keep my strength up with nourishment. Andthe promises of losing 25 - 30lbs are also dependent upon eachindividual (and far-fetched). You may only lose a few poundsinitially.So, truthfully, HAVE the surgery! It will change your life, but ifyou already have a special time with your husband planned go andenjoy that now. The rest of your life has waited this long, twoextra weeks will not be the end.Posted Friday, Sept. 8.This is part of the problem with the old-timers glossing over themisery of recovery period or slightly exaggerating their actualweight loss. It gives those of us who have yet to go through it afalse sense of what should be happening. I am only 15 days out andknow EXACTLY what you are feeling right now. Eileen (who was bandedthe same day as me) is right about the first week being moredifficult than the second. And please do get plenty of protein, itwill help stave off the hunger a bit, but don't expect it to take itaway completely. There is just no way that liquid of any kind canstay in your little pouch long enough to keep you from being hungryfor very long. But we do need healing time and have to suffer (YES ISAID SUFFER) through this period to protect our own health.As far as not losing any weight so far, remember each body isdifferent and frankly the larger you are to begin with the moreexcess water weight will fall off initially. Please don't bediscouraged by the claims of "bandsters" losing 15 pounds overnightand everyone else's huge initial success. Your body will adjust tolosing the weight slow and steady over a period of time, and this isactually a healthier way to lose the weight. Keep to the post opdiet, it is not only beneficial to your triumph in the long run, itis essential for your health and healing. Remember, the outside ofyou maybe scabbed over, but the inside of you was injured also andneeds it's rebuilding time.Posted Sept. 8Re: I need help Before you get on your high horse about my being a "baby" in the lap-band world, you might want to know from where you speak! I researched my surgery through three years and several seminars. I belong to groups here in my area and actually KNOW and have watched REAL lap-band patients over these last three years. NOT ONE OF THEM LOST 25 TO 30 POUNDS IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD !!!!! The many various doctors I have spoken to (in-depth) and discussed these phenomena's with also assure me that they are slight to gross exaggerations. Joe (who was the heaviest patient I've seen over these years at 457lbs) lost the most I have witnessed and that was 19lbs in a two week turn around.I have read the archives and I dislike the intimations that as soon as you have your surgery you'll be down some ridiculous amount of weight in just a few days. Leading neophytes to believe they are failing if they aren't. I have read the archives and I find it objectionable that the posts ALL seem to say things like, "I actually enjoyed the liquid diet phase." and "it really wasn't that bad." and the ever popular, "with liquid protein I wasn't hungry at all". Those statements my dear friend, are flat out LIES !!!!! It IS difficult (at varying levels for everybody)! You ARE going to be hungry! No amount of liquid can maintain a "full" feeling for any length of time. And you MAY only lose a couple of pounds initially, and IT IS NOT BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WORKED THEIR BUTT OFF AND YOU DIDN'T! It is simply because EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT! No one begrudges when someone does well. My protest comes from the "sell them at all costs" attitude. Be honest about the difficulties AND the successes and people will be able to make the proper decisions about their surgery. YES there is a selective memory loss when it comes to the suffering of recovery and YES there are slight embellishments when it comes to the actual numbers on the scale. Deny it if you want; I am only grateful that I was truly aware of the pros and cons prior to my surgery by factual witnessed experiences, or this message board would have given me a false sense of reality !Posted Sept. 9For those of you who for some reason seem to think I should somehow be ashamed of myself for sharing an opinion (that was clearly solicited) - Get Over Yourselves.I was responding to (and ONLY) who seemed confused that she was having such a hard time so early on when she Clearly seemed to feel that the difficulties she was experiencing were not shared by others. Am I ashamed for telling her that there are actually others going through the same thing and that it is in fact more common then seemed to appear? - I Am Not! Am I ashamed to tell her that not only based on what I have actually witnessed with real life people over the past three years, but also experienced myself only one short week prior? - I Am Not! I am "ruffled", "offended" or any of the other things you accused me of being just because you didn't like what I was telling her? - I Am Not! Am I concerned about what you think of me or say about me either here on this forum or to yourselves? - I Am Not!If I choose to respond to someone asking a question in the future, I believe that I will reply to them personally. As clearly the rest of you have issues with any opinions that differ from your own. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 -Just read your post and I admit I was a bit behind on most of this but it sure sounds like someone want to be powerful and a auority. Oh well I say, if she can get someone to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Jenni, I am not even a banister yet and I remember these postings. I've been hanging out here since the beginning of Aug. of last year and I remember how much crap was stirred up with these postings. Oh well it will calm down soon no big deal. I still like reading all of the postings and learn alot from everyone's wisdom. Take care Terry R. Idaho > > I'm sorry...I have to laugh at some of the recent postings about > insensitive comments. It sounds like a bunch of pansy little girls > getting their feathers ruffled at someones birthday party or > something! Oh my God! I can't be the only one who finds the > postings and antics of Miamiangel to be quite comical! There are > obviously more problems than obesity with which this woman is > dealing! No one on this board should apologize for anything they > say! That is the beauty of and the nature of this beast! I've been > hanging out here longer than most who still post and I find it quite > interesting that it is always the same people time and time again who > try to stir up trouble on this board. If you wanna know what I am > talking about, read all the posts below! These were all posted by > Miamiangel. Quite entertaining! > > Life is Great! (And often entertaining even at the expense of others!) > > Jenni Currie > > Posted Sept. 5 > Re: When to schedule surgery? > > > My post is going to seem harsh in comparison to the others you've > received, but in my opinion . . . > I say go on the cruise and enjoy yourself and THEN come back and > schedule your surgery. This close to cruise date you will still be > healing and on your liquid phase, neither of these will contribute to > a good time vacation. > I am not saying that the surgery is bad and I completely believe that > this will be a great thing in my life (I'm 13 days out), but I notice > on these posts that the old-timers (those who are already on a > regular diet) seem to gloss over the misery of recovery. The liquid > diet phase sucks! I am hungry and I'm sick (I developed a horrible > cold), and I can't even keep my strength up with nourishment. And > the promises of losing 25 - 30lbs are also dependent upon each > individual (and far-fetched). You may only lose a few pounds > initially. > So, truthfully, HAVE the surgery! It will change your life, but if > you already have a special time with your husband planned go and > enjoy that now. The rest of your life has waited this long, two > extra weeks will not be the end. > > > Posted Friday, Sept. 8 > . > This is part of the problem with the old-timers glossing over the > misery of recovery period or slightly exaggerating their actual > weight loss. It gives those of us who have yet to go through it a > false sense of what should be happening. I am only 15 days out and > know EXACTLY what you are feeling right now. Eileen (who was banded > the same day as me) is right about the first week being more > difficult than the second. And please do get plenty of protein, it > will help stave off the hunger a bit, but don't expect it to take it > away completely. There is just no way that liquid of any kind can > stay in your little pouch long enough to keep you from being hungry > for very long. But we do need healing time and have to suffer (YES I > SAID SUFFER) through this period to protect our own health. > As far as not losing any weight so far, remember each body is > different and frankly the larger you are to begin with the more > excess water weight will fall off initially. Please don't be > discouraged by the claims of " bandsters " losing 15 pounds overnight > and everyone else's huge initial success. Your body will adjust to > losing the weight slow and steady over a period of time, and this is > actually a healthier way to lose the weight. Keep to the post op > diet, it is not only beneficial to your triumph in the long run, it > is essential for your health and healing. Remember, the outside of > you maybe scabbed over, but the inside of you was injured also and > needs it's rebuilding time. > > > Posted Sept. 8 > Re: I need help > > > Before you get on your high horse about my being a " baby " in the lap- > band world, you might want to know from where you speak! I > researched my surgery through three years and several seminars. I > belong to groups here in my area and actually KNOW and have watched > REAL lap-band patients over these last three years. NOT ONE OF THEM > LOST 25 TO 30 POUNDS IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD !!!!! The many various > doctors I have spoken to (in-depth) and discussed these phenomena's > with also assure me that they are slight to gross exaggerations. Joe > (who was the heaviest patient I've seen over these years at 457lbs) > lost the most I have witnessed and that was 19lbs in a two week turn > around. > > I have read the archives and I dislike the intimations that as soon > as you have your surgery you'll be down some ridiculous amount of > weight in just a few days. Leading neophytes to believe they are > failing if they aren't. I have read the archives and I find it > objectionable that the posts ALL seem to say things like, " I actually > enjoyed the liquid diet phase. " and " it really wasn't that bad. " and > the ever popular, " with liquid protein I wasn't hungry at all " . > Those statements my dear friend, are flat out LIES !!!!! It IS > difficult (at varying levels for everybody)! You ARE going to be > hungry! No amount of liquid can maintain a " full " feeling for any > length of time. And you MAY only lose a couple of pounds initially, > and IT IS NOT BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WORKED THEIR BUTT OFF AND YOU > DIDN'T! It is simply because EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT! > > No one begrudges when someone does well. My protest comes from > the " sell them at all costs " attitude. Be honest about the > difficulties AND the successes and people will be able to make the > proper decisions about their surgery. YES there is a selective > memory loss when it comes to the suffering of recovery and YES there > are slight embellishments when it comes to the actual numbers on the > scale. Deny it if you want; I am only grateful that I was truly > aware of the pros and cons prior to my surgery by factual witnessed > experiences, or this message board would have given me a false sense > of reality ! > > Posted Sept. 9 > For those of you who for some reason seem to think I should somehow > be ashamed of myself for sharing an opinion (that was clearly > solicited) - Get Over Yourselves. > > I was responding to (and ONLY) who seemed confused that > she was having such a hard time so early on when she Clearly seemed > to feel that the difficulties she was experiencing were not shared by > others. Am I ashamed for telling her that there are actually others > going through the same thing and that it is in fact more common then > seemed to appear? - I Am Not! Am I ashamed to tell her that not only > based on what I have actually witnessed with real life people over > the past three years, but also experienced myself only one short week > prior? - I Am Not! I am " ruffled " , " offended " or any of the other > things you accused me of being just because you didn't like what I > was telling her? - I Am Not! Am I concerned about what you think of > me or say about me either here on this forum or to yourselves? - I Am > Not! > > If I choose to respond to someone asking a question in the future, I > believe that I will reply to them personally. As clearly the rest of > you have issues with any opinions that differ from your own. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I'm so glad I'm not perfect and can misspell words and smile about it. Life is good...:~) ga cr <bgaroo@...> wrote: Jenni, I want to thank you for showing us all of her great works of art me being a newbie I have not seen all this even though I agreed with I felt sorry for her because I thought she was going through something but now as I can see she is going through more than a few things... I think she is just trying to bring kayos to the group and feeds off the attention so as of right now no more attention from me... giftedtch <giftedtch > wrote: I'm sorry...I have to laugh at some of the recent postings about insensitive comments. It sounds like a bunch of pansy little girls getting their feathers ruffled at someones birthday party or something! Oh my God! I can't be the only one who finds the postings and antics of Miamiangel to be quite comical! There are obviously more problems than obesity with which this woman is dealing! No one on this board should apologize for anything they say! That is the beauty of and the nature of this beast! I've been hanging out here longer than most who still post and I find it quite interesting that it is always the same people time and time again who try to stir up trouble on this board. If you wanna know what I am talking about, read all the posts below! These were all posted by Miamiangel. Quite entertaining!Life is Great! (And often entertaining even at the expense of others!)Jenni CurriePosted Sept. 5Re: When to schedule surgery? My post is going to seem harsh in comparison to the others you'vereceived, but in my opinion . . .I say go on the cruise and enjoy yourself and THEN come back andschedule your surgery. This close to cruise date you will still behealing and on your liquid phase, neither of these will contribute toa good time vacation.I am not saying that the surgery is bad and I completely believe thatthis will be a great thing in my life (I'm 13 days out), but I noticeon these posts that the old-timers (those who are already on aregular diet) seem to gloss over the misery of recovery. The liquiddiet phase sucks! I am hungry and I'm sick (I developed a horriblecold), and I can't even keep my strength up with nourishment. Andthe promises of losing 25 - 30lbs are also dependent upon eachindividual (and far-fetched). You may only lose a few poundsinitially.So, truthfully, HAVE the surgery! It will change your life, but ifyou already have a special time with your husband planned go andenjoy that now. The rest of your life has waited this long, twoextra weeks will not be the end.Posted Friday, Sept. 8.This is part of the problem with the old-timers glossing over themisery of recovery period or slightly exaggerating their actualweight loss. It gives those of us who have yet to go through it afalse sense of what should be happening. I am only 15 days out andknow EXACTLY what you are feeling right now. Eileen (who was bandedthe same day as me) is right about the first week being moredifficult than the second. And please do get plenty of protein, itwill help stave off the hunger a bit, but don't expect it to take itaway completely. There is just no way that liquid of any kind canstay in your little pouch long enough to keep you from being hungryfor very long. But we do need healing time and have to suffer (YES ISAID SUFFER) through this period to protect our own health.As far as not losing any weight so far, remember each body isdifferent and frankly the larger you are to begin with the moreexcess water weight will fall off initially. Please don't bediscouraged by the claims of "bandsters" losing 15 pounds overnightand everyone else's huge initial success. Your body will adjust tolosing the weight slow and steady over a period of time, and this isactually a healthier way to lose the weight. Keep to the post opdiet, it is not only beneficial to your triumph in the long run, itis essential for your health and healing. Remember, the outside ofyou maybe scabbed over, but the inside of you was injured also andneeds it's rebuilding time.Posted Sept. 8Re: I need help Before you get on your high horse about my being a "baby" in the lap-band world, you might want to know from where you speak! I researched my surgery through three years and several seminars. I belong to groups here in my area and actually KNOW and have watched REAL lap-band patients over these last three years. NOT ONE OF THEM LOST 25 TO 30 POUNDS IN A TWO WEEK PERIOD !!!!! The many various doctors I have spoken to (in-depth) and discussed these phenomena's with also assure me that they are slight to gross exaggerations. Joe (who was the heaviest patient I've seen over these years at 457lbs) lost the most I have witnessed and that was 19lbs in a two week turn around.I have read the archives and I dislike the intimations that as soon as you have your surgery you'll be down some ridiculous amount of weight in just a few days. Leading neophytes to believe they are failing if they aren't. I have read the archives and I find it objectionable that the posts ALL seem to say things like, "I actually enjoyed the liquid diet phase." and "it really wasn't that bad." and the ever popular, "with liquid protein I wasn't hungry at all". Those statements my dear friend, are flat out LIES !!!!! It IS difficult (at varying levels for everybody)! You ARE going to be hungry! No amount of liquid can maintain a "full" feeling for any length of time. And you MAY only lose a couple of pounds initially, and IT IS NOT BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WORKED THEIR BUTT OFF AND YOU DIDN'T! It is simply because EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT! No one begrudges when someone does well. My protest comes from the "sell them at all costs" attitude. Be honest about the difficulties AND the successes and people will be able to make the proper decisions about their surgery. YES there is a selective memory loss when it comes to the suffering of recovery and YES there are slight embellishments when it comes to the actual numbers on the scale. Deny it if you want; I am only grateful that I was truly aware of the pros and cons prior to my surgery by factual witnessed experiences, or this message board would have given me a false sense of reality !Posted Sept. 9For those of you who for some reason seem to think I should somehow be ashamed of myself for sharing an opinion (that was clearly solicited) - Get Over Yourselves.I was responding to (and ONLY) who seemed confused that she was having such a hard time so early on when she Clearly seemed to feel that the difficulties she was experiencing were not shared by others. Am I ashamed for telling her that there are actually others going through the same thing and that it is in fact more common then seemed to appear? - I Am Not! Am I ashamed to tell her that not only based on what I have actually witnessed with real life people over the past three years, but also experienced myself only one short week prior? - I Am Not! I am "ruffled", "offended" or any of the other things you accused me of being just because you didn't like what I was telling her? - I Am Not! Am I concerned about what you think of me or say about me either here on this forum or to yourselves? - I Am Not!If I choose to respond to someone asking a question in the future, I believe that I will reply to them personally. As clearly the rest of you have issues with any opinions that differ from your own. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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