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and list,

I'm glad this is doable.

Speaking of FM systems and CIs, I have a question for the list. How many of

you are able to hear in a large conference room or auditorium without an FM

system? When I talked to my audi earlier this month, she kept reminding me

that even with a CI, I still may need to use an FM system to hear in noise

or when the speaker is quite a distance away from me.

Although I'm not doubting her, I would like to know how many of you

(particularly those who have one CI) are able to understand speech in this

kind of environment.

Thanks in advance!

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>

>

> Hi all -

> I'm on " digest " for this forum so forgive me if this is redundant. I just

> felt compelled to answer after ROTFLMHO. , you are a riot!

>

> Anyhows, since I got my CI back in 1990 before BTEs I thought I might kick

> in my 2 cents worth. I had to laugh at the potty story. Actually, the

first

> time for me was at the CI Clinic when I got hooked up. I don't remember

> having any problems - I think I may have held my BWP under my chin - all I

> remember is being so intrigued at the " loud " noises peeing made! And the

> whoosh of the toilet! This was after living 20 years in almost total

> silence, so having the dreaded cord was nothing to me. Yeah, the first

time

> a gal wants to wear something like a sundress can present problems. I

> remember once having to put my BWP in a purse! Eventually, one just buys

> clothes that better adapt. (Also, one gets older and no longer wears

> backless sundresses, right?!) One thing I discovered is an adjustable

> elastic belt that I can wear under tops - you can even wear it higher up,

> like right under your bra. It also works well for me sometimes with a

cloth

> belt. (Leather belts next to the skin can be abrasive or sticky!)

> Basically, what I'm saying is to wear two belts....one on your belt loops

> and one under your tops/shirts. This even works for some dresses. For a

> fitted dress, I go with the bra. I don't know about the new processor

> pouches, but the N22 pouch has a belt loop that can be threaded thru a bra

> (does not work well with the front closure kind). Usually, when I wear a

> dress I don't get all sweaty (we girls don't sweat!), but one could put

the

> BWP in a plastic baggie if moisture was a problem. you REALLY had

me

> laughing at the " one round, one squarish " description. If you happen to

> have TWO kind of " large roundish, " the " one squarish " is not going to

show

> much. One just has to be discrete about adjustments. (Like in

church....hold

> your prayer book up in front!) Actually, I don't do much adjusting - but a

> newbie might need to....don't be bashful! Another option:I've never done

> this, but some gals wear the BWP on a dress that has a matching belt and

> make a tiny hole in a seam to run the cord thru. Most people do not like

> wearing the cord on the outside of clothing because it snags on things too

> easily.

>

> Hubby also has an N22 BWP and I was always jealous that he could just

> unbutton his shirt to adjust his settings. So you guys have an advantage

> there! Currently, he is wearing his BWP in those sleeveless pocket

t-shirts.

> When he goes out, he wears a shirt over it. He also has a holster type

> thing, handmade out of cloth. Anyone could probably make something

> similar....it looks sort of like what you see police detectives wear under

> their suits.

>

> Some of you may know my electrodes have been failing and I'm scheduled for

> re-implantation 6/22. Naturally, I'm really interested in the BTEs - BUT

I'm

> more interested in getting the best sound. I'm keeping my options open,

> thanks to all I've learned from the forums. My audie is letting me hookup

> with a loaner BWP so I can decide whether I want 1 BWP/1BTE or 2BTEs....or

> maybe keep one wrapped up in the plastic or get a certificate for

something

> new that comes down the road! I know lots of CIers that never use their

BWP

> and didn't know about these options....so thanks to all you forum members!

>

> My question is, how many people hear better with the BWP? Are you willing

to

> forego better hearing just to be able to wear a BTE?

>

> Hugs-

> Shari

> Oklahoma

> N22 (1/11/90)

> N24 surgery scheduled 6/22

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Depends on the acoustics in the conference room. As Alice mentioned, SHHH

would have the room set up to fit the needs of its attendees. Some

conferences I could hear with CI alone; other conferences I needed the FM.

Re: FM Systems and CI

>

> ,

>

> I do not use an FM System. I tried one at the SHHH Conference last year

but found I could do quite well without it.

>

> Alice

>

>

>

>

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I just finished participating in a training for SHHH's new National

Center for Hearing Assistive Technology (NCHAT). The " students " were

all SHHH members who agreed to do outreach on Hearing Assistive

Technology (HAT). Two the seven students had CI's (One had one implant

and switched between a BWP and an BTE and the other had bilateral

BTE's). All the participants had used HAT before, but during that

weekend we all (I programmed a very low power hearing aid for myself so

I could evaluate different technology) used a wide variety of FM,

Infrared, induction loops systems with a even wider variety of

microphones.

The classroom was acoustically pretty good (small, relatively quiet), we

also had CPRINT and all the presenters were used to speaking to hard of

hearing people (slower pace, good projection, well trimmed moustaches).

The interesting thing was that on the first day, the participants seemed

to be using the HAT because they had to, but by the middle of the second

day (it was a 3 day training), the first thing they said after breaks

was " What are we using next? "

I think that your audiologist is rare in that from what I hear on many

lists, many consumers are hearing about HAT on listservs, not from their

audiologists. I really believe that using HAT is like anything else in

the hearing loss game. You need to use it a while in a variety of your

own real life situations to see if the benefits outweigh the costs

(money, logistics, etc).

There are a few studies out there that clearly indicate that people with

cochlear hearing loss and hearing aids require 18 to 20 dB signal to

noise ratio to hear as well in adverse situations compared to 6 dB

signal to noise ratio for a person with normal hearing. It would be

very interesting to repeat those studies with people with CI's.

____________________________________________

Best Regards,

Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA

Editor

EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network

www.bradingrao.com

e-mail: info@...

FM Systems and CI

and list,

I'm glad this is doable.

Speaking of FM systems and CIs, I have a question for the list. How many

of you are able to hear in a large conference room or auditorium without

an FM system? When I talked to my audi earlier this month, she kept

reminding me that even with a CI, I still may need to use an FM system

to hear in noise or when the speaker is quite a distance away from me.

Although I'm not doubting her, I would like to know how many of you

(particularly those who have one CI) are able to understand speech in

this kind of environment.

Thanks in advance!

's Recommendations for Guys & Gals

>

>

> Hi all -

> I'm on " digest " for this forum so forgive me if this is redundant. I

just

> felt compelled to answer after ROTFLMHO. , you are a riot!

>

> Anyhows, since I got my CI back in 1990 before BTEs I thought I might

kick

> in my 2 cents worth. I had to laugh at the potty story. Actually, the

first

> time for me was at the CI Clinic when I got hooked up. I don't

remember

> having any problems - I think I may have held my BWP under my chin -

all I

> remember is being so intrigued at the " loud " noises peeing made! And

the

> whoosh of the toilet! This was after living 20 years in almost total

> silence, so having the dreaded cord was nothing to me. Yeah, the first

time

> a gal wants to wear something like a sundress can present problems. I

> remember once having to put my BWP in a purse! Eventually, one just

buys

> clothes that better adapt. (Also, one gets older and no longer wears

> backless sundresses, right?!) One thing I discovered is an adjustable

> elastic belt that I can wear under tops - you can even wear it higher

up,

> like right under your bra. It also works well for me sometimes with a

cloth

> belt. (Leather belts next to the skin can be abrasive or sticky!)

> Basically, what I'm saying is to wear two belts....one on your belt

loops

> and one under your tops/shirts. This even works for some dresses. For

a

> fitted dress, I go with the bra. I don't know about the new processor

> pouches, but the N22 pouch has a belt loop that can be threaded thru a

bra

> (does not work well with the front closure kind). Usually, when I wear

a

> dress I don't get all sweaty (we girls don't sweat!), but one could

put

the

> BWP in a plastic baggie if moisture was a problem. you REALLY

had

me

> laughing at the " one round, one squarish " description. If you happen

to

> have TWO kind of " large roundish, " the " one squarish " is not going to

show

> much. One just has to be discrete about adjustments. (Like in

church....hold

> your prayer book up in front!) Actually, I don't do much adjusting -

but a

> newbie might need to....don't be bashful! Another option:I've never

done

> this, but some gals wear the BWP on a dress that has a matching belt

and

> make a tiny hole in a seam to run the cord thru. Most people do not

like

> wearing the cord on the outside of clothing because it snags on things

too

> easily.

>

> Hubby also has an N22 BWP and I was always jealous that he could just

> unbutton his shirt to adjust his settings. So you guys have an

advantage

> there! Currently, he is wearing his BWP in those sleeveless pocket

t-shirts.

> When he goes out, he wears a shirt over it. He also has a holster type

> thing, handmade out of cloth. Anyone could probably make something

> similar....it looks sort of like what you see police detectives wear

under

> their suits.

>

> Some of you may know my electrodes have been failing and I'm scheduled

for

> re-implantation 6/22. Naturally, I'm really interested in the BTEs -

BUT

I'm

> more interested in getting the best sound. I'm keeping my options

open,

> thanks to all I've learned from the forums. My audie is letting me

hookup

> with a loaner BWP so I can decide whether I want 1 BWP/1BTE or

2BTEs....or

> maybe keep one wrapped up in the plastic or get a certificate for

something

> new that comes down the road! I know lots of CIers that never use

their

BWP

> and didn't know about these options....so thanks to all you forum

members!

>

> My question is, how many people hear better with the BWP? Are you

willing

to

> forego better hearing just to be able to wear a BTE?

>

> Hugs-

> Shari

> Oklahoma

> N22 (1/11/90)

> N24 surgery scheduled 6/22

>

>

>

>

>

>

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