Negative and positive tapping question

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Can somebody explain me please why the person should have the SAME

tapping procedure for , for example fear of water

1.Even though I have a fear of water I deeply and completely accept

myself. And then the person is tapping : fear of water, fear of

water, fear of water …

OR

2. Even though I have a fear of water I choose to overcome this

problem.

Should the person tap fear of water in this case too? Or should

the person tap on something like overcome the fear of water?

Thank you

[Guest guest]

> Hello,

>

> Can somebody explain me please why the person should have the SAME

> tapping procedure for , for example fear of water

>

> 1.Even though I have a fear of water I deeply and completely

accept

> myself. And then the person is tapping : fear of water, fear of

> water, fear of water …

> OR

>

> 2. Even though I have a fear of water I choose to overcome this

> problem.

>

> Should the person tap fear of water in this case too? Or should

> the person tap on something like overcome the fear of water?

>

> Thank you

Either way should work and depends on which way feels best for the

person, and thereby brings the SUDS down.

Another option is to alternate one with the other.

I believe the process involves re-programming the subconscious to

accept a new reponse to water, by removing the fear response and

replacing it with the acceptance response that water does not have to

be feared in an irrational way, but can be viewed rationally.

Any phobia is created by an unconscious over-reaction from the

primitive fight/flight response section of the brain. EFT reprograms

the subconscious to not set off the response.

An interesting book that anyone interested in phobias might want to

look at, is " Emotional Intelligence " by Goleman.

Blessings, Nels

[Guest guest]

Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:21:26 -0000

From: " Nels " <arvent@...>

Subject: Re: Negative and positive tapping question

I believe the process involves re-programming the subconscious to accept a

new response to water, by removing the fear response and replacing it with the

acceptance response that water does not have to be feared in an irrational way,

but can be viewed rationally. Any phobia is created by an unconscious

over-reaction from the primitive fight/flight response section of the brain. EFT

reprograms the subconscious to not set off the response.

Blessings, Nels

To all...Oh how I wish that was true........I need help.

I am *DEATHLY* afraid of being in the water either in a boat,

swimming...ocean, lake, pool...anything like it....since water and I have not

had a good

experience in my life. I almost drowned many times at different ages. The ones

that really stick with me are:

** Very young child in ocean w/ parents holding me by hands swinging me into

the water/waves ( I actually remember the drowning feelings as water splashed

my face from the waves.

** Child around 9 or 10 at beach outing from camp when someone let go of my

hand from the line of kids going into the water and I was dragged into the

surf.

** Teenager with my dad in ocean when waves hit us both, we went down and he

found me by stepping on me since I was on the bottom and could not figure how

to get up.

** Adult on vacation with friend, while floating-swimming in a calm Caribbean

ocean- due to undertow that almost took us into the rock jetty.

*** As an adult I was thrown into a pool fully clothed at a party, as a

joke....and almost drowned since my throat closes up and I can't breathe. Took

me

1/2 an hour to calm down and then my night was ruined from the ordeal. Anyone

else would have laughed, gotten into something dry and enjoyed the party. have

never loved to swim but learned basics as a child...I can swim simple

strokes, paddle around a bit, I can go underwater for less then a minute maybe,

but

must be able to touch the bottom of a pool. I NEVER dive in, always must walk

to see how deep it is. I won't swim in the ocean or lakes since I was forced to

jump into the dark black lake to show I could swim with the big kids... as a

13 year old kid at camp. I felt as if I was drowning till I got my hand on the

ladder and could not swim since I was very panicked. They made me stay on the

beach area and wasn't allowed out to the floating dock for the rest of the

camp experience.

To this day, I won't go near water if someone mentions they *might* push me

in or fool around in the water with me. I am scared to death and panic inside

at the thought. Since I became chemically sensitive 6 years ago I would not go

in a pool anymore anyway, due to the chemicals. Chlorine and I do not work

well either.

Therefore...last week I totally shocked and surprised myself....

I haven't been anywhere near a body of water that I could swim in for over 6

years. While vacationing at my sister's house for the weekend, I actually

agreed to go kayaking with my sister and brother in law and my husband..at my

sisters very strong urging and cajoling. She would not take no for an answer and

said I would have a life jacket on so I would never sink, and they would give

me the most stable larger size kayak that balances easier, and help me in and

out of it. In my heart, I really DID want to try this ....and... I went,

managed to keep my fears quiet by self talk all the way over to the place, ( no

I

did not do EFT thought) got into the kayak and had a ball for 1 1/2 hours out on

the calm marsh water lake. It was heaven to be so close to the water finally,

yet not be scared to death I was going into it and possibly drown. Every time

I started feeling that thought, I brushed it away and kept paddling. Did I

feel safe in the kayak...no... yet...I did it anyway and I still don't believe I

did.

YET TODAY, NOW.... I still do not feel that I have mastered my fears of water

and still would not just jump into water and not be afraid. How do I remove

this fear when I will not go into the water? Sometimes I can panic just by

thinking about *what can happen* and it feels terrible inside me.

***** How do I do EFT... if...I panic even when it is not the actual

experience of being in the water. How does one go about healing/ solving this

when my

head says...*** unless I am actually IN THE WATER SITUATION PHYSICALLY and are

actually EXPERIENCING the fear while in the water...*** I can not really in

my heart believe EFT WILL get rid of my fear of water. I read all the

*miracle healings* of others, BUT...this fear is so strong the thought of

working on

it actually scares me too. I am a grown woman in her late 50's and would love

to finally be free of this Water Fear. ******

Thanks for letting me explain and sorry for so long a post, but I wanted to

really explain the best I could.

In Health,

' In NY

ra2taback@...

[Guest guest]

> To all...Oh how I wish that was true........I need help.

> I am *DEATHLY* afraid of being in the water either in a boat,

> swimming...ocean, lake, pool...anything like it....since water and

I have not had a good

> experience in my life. I almost drowned many times at different

ages. The ones

> that really stick with me are:

Hi ,

That was a very interesting post and will likely be of benefit to

many others as well.

My feeling is that there are several aspects to your situation - like

peeling the layers from an onion. And some may not even involve a

phobia of water but actually relate to trauma. There is a pattern

where it might seem that you have been a victim of abusive behaviour

for example. Also there is some indication that the fear may be more

related to claustaphobia or being smothered and not actually a water

phobia. Your relationship with water may only be one conscious

prudence, colored by some subconscious trauma effects.

Your fear of even trying EFT may be related to fear of failure, or

not wanting to lose the fear of water. Fear of losing the fear! Who

knows, maybe that fear of water has already saved your life at some

point!

My advice would be to review the basic videos offered on CD at 's

Site. I might even have a set I could send you. And then try EFT on

some other things that are less stressful. This will give you first

hand experience with the process.

Personally I freak out when I see small children playing on rocks and

such, next to deep water and they are not wearing a life preserver.

The number of loved ones that drown each year during the summer is

appalling. We need not fear water, but certainly many people could

have a far healthier respect for it.

All the best, Nels