Re: My testimony. What if EFT doesn't work ? What's the reason ?

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> Do you have an idea what should I do ?

If you can, think about the first time that you can recall having

these symptoms. My intuition tells me it might have something to do

with a roller coaster or a scary ride of some sort. I dunno, I could

be wrong but I'm just throwing things out there for you to think about.

Also, when you are going through this, what does it remind you of?

> What's important in this case is that I can't say: a fear of mice,

> a fear of heights and so on. I can't be so precise, because I don't

> know the reason of my fear. I can say: this fear, my heart beating

> quickly, my legs tense, this anxiety etc.

When the symptoms begin, what is it that's going on around you to

trigger it. Is it a stressful situation? A television program? Pay

careful attention to your surroundings and see if there is something

common that occures in each incident. It may help you to find clues.

> I'm beginner, maybe I do something wrong.(?)

No, I don't believe that you are doing anything wrong. I think it has

more to do with you coming up against a 'core' issue. These can be a

little difficult to work on, even when done with a seasoned

practitioner. The key is to be patient, persistant, and specific. I'm

confident that once you find the one single event that started your

problem and successfully resolve it, you'll gain a much deeper

understanding in the importance of working with core issues. You may

go on to find that current events that triggered your problem in the

past will fail to trigger it again and your problem will simply fade

away to nothingness.

Anyway, I hope that this helps to guide you towards resolving your

issue. Let us know how it goes...

-Jef

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> > Do you have an idea what should I do ?

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> If you can, think about the first time that you can recall having

> these symptoms. My intuition tells me it might have something to do

> with a roller coaster or a scary ride of some sort. I dunno, I could

> be wrong but I'm just throwing things out there for you to think about.

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Thanks Jef.

I think it refers to my childhood, because in my family there were

many rows, my father came home drunk, he is the person that reacts

with stress to smallest things. If I think what I'm afraid of, I can

say that I have impression that " something will happen " (!), that

someone will call, I prefer to lock the door of my room when I sleep.

If we want to use a clasification, it would probably be Generalized

Anxiety Disorder. But I really don't know what I'm afraid of, why my

body is tense, my heart is beating quickly, as if it was prepared for

a reaction to a danger.

As I know in EFT the reason is not important because we act on the

energetic level. Can I use simply an affirmation that refers to my

somatic reaction ? But, I'm doing it and for now I can see no results.

Maybe should I wait for a long time?

best regards

Lukasz

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> Thanks Jef.

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> I think it refers to my childhood, because in my family there were

> many rows, my father came home drunk, he is the person that reacts

> with stress to smallest things. If I think what I'm afraid of, I can

> say that I have impression that " something will happen " (!), that

> someone will call, I prefer to lock the door of my room when I

> sleep.

Hmmm...this situation is definately something you should be working

on. Tell me, whenever your father lost his temper over seemingly

trivial things, did your hands clench, your heart race, your legs get

tense? Did you want to run to your room and lock the door?

> If we want to use a clasification, it would probably be Generalized

> Anxiety Disorder. But I really don't know what I'm afraid of, why my

> body is tense, my heart is beating quickly, as if it was prepared

> for a reaction to a danger.

You're probably right. Is it possible that it's a fear related to not

knowing when your father was going to explode next? The dread of

knowing it is going to happen, yet not knowing exactly when?

> As I know in EFT the reason is not important because we act on the

> energetic level. Can I use simply an affirmation that refers to my

> somatic reaction?

Yes. Absolutely. As you are working on these issues, make note of any

thoughts that come up. In most cases, they're pointers to where to go

next. Working on an issue such as this should be looked at like an

onion. As you tap on an issue related to the bigger problem (aspect),

you're in essence peeling away just one layer of the onion (the bigger

problem). When that layer is peeled off, another layer presents itself

(another aspect). With enough time, you eventually peel enough away to

make the onion disappear. The nice thing about EFT is that, with

patience and a little detective work, you're able to go right to the

core of the onion and make it disappear in short order without having

to peel away each and every layer.

My intuition tells me that your Generalized Anxiety Disorder is

related to the outbusts you suffered through as a child from your

father. I'd definately be investigating that as the core issue.

Perhaps along the way, something else will pop up, but my gut tells me

that if you can eliminate this situation then a huge part of your

anxiety will vanish.

Give it a shot and let us know...

-Jef

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> When the symptoms begin, what is it that's going on around you to

> trigger it. Is it a stressful situation? A television program? Pay

> careful attention to your surroundings and see if there is something

> common that occures in each incident. It may help you to find clues.

>

What's strange in this situation (as I know it's common for

Generalized Anxiety Disorder) is that you don't know why, and you

can't see any relation between the symptom and the situation. In fact

it's not like a trigger at all. The symptoms like muscular tension,

lack of concentration, palpitations are permanent, present everytime.

Yes, there are some changes and different periods but there are many

difference. That's why it's hard to find a clue. What's sure, it's

only the somatic reaction, the rest isn't conscious.

Lukasz

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> What's strange in this situation (as I know it's common for

> Generalized Anxiety Disorder) is that you don't know why, and you

> can't see any relation between the symptom and the situation. In fact

> it's not like a trigger at all. The symptoms like muscular tension,

> lack of concentration, palpitations are permanent, present everytime.

> Yes, there are some changes and different periods but there are many

> difference. That's why it's hard to find a clue. What's sure, it's

> only the somatic reaction, the rest isn't conscious.

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> Lukasz

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M'kay, let's try this then and see if it will help.

" Even though I have this [insert problem here] and I don't know why, I

deeply and completely love and accept myself. "

" This [insert problem here]. "

Perhaps by adding the " and I don't know why " phrase to the affirmation

statement it'll jar loose a memory or image that leads back to the

original incident. Will it work? Dunno. But it's worth a try.

Lemme ask you this. How true do you think this statement is when

comparing it to your situation, " I don't think I'll ever get to the

bottom of this problem. " True, Very true, This guy's full of it.

Let me know your answer...

-Jef

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> M'kay, let's try this then and see if it will help.

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> " Even though I have this [insert problem here] and I don't know why, I

> deeply and completely love and accept myself. "

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> " This [insert problem here]. "

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I will try !!!

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> Lemme ask you this. How true do you think this statement is when

> comparing it to your situation, " I don't think I'll ever get to the

> bottom of this problem. " True, Very true, This guy's full of it.

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> Let me know your answer...

You know Jef, after two years of my work to resolve this neurosis I

really started to let many attachments to neurotic structures go away.

As if this statement is concerned I would say " raher not true " .

Lukasz

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> You know Jef, after two years of my work to resolve this neurosis I

> really started to let many attachments to neurotic structures go away.

> As if this statement is concerned I would say " rather not true " .

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> Lukasz

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Good answer! What I was doing was testing to see if you were, perhaps,

globally reversed. This happens to folks that have had to deal with

issues for a very long time. This type of reversal of different from

the run of the mill type of reversal and take effort to get it to

clear. Fortunately, you don't appear to have it )

So, where do we go from here? In the 2 months that you've been using

EFT, have you noticed any change, large or small, in your anxiety

level? You mentioned that your problem has improved somewhat but

didn't say whether or not it was due to the EFT.

-Jef

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> So, where do we go from here? In the 2 months that you've been using

> EFT, have you noticed any change, large or small, in your anxiety

> level? You mentioned that your problem has improved somewhat but

> didn't say whether or not it was due to the EFT.

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> -Jef

Thanks for your interest:).

So, I was suffering from insomnia for 3 years. Diagnosis was: 1.

Generalized Anxiety Disorder, 2. Dysthymia. So, the main trait of

these thing is their permanence and their chronic character. I was

taking antidepressive medecins for at least 1,5 year. No results !

Still hard insomnia (it was my main problem, not depression). 3 years.

Then I started my interests in Transpersonal Psychology, meditations,

rebirthing, affirmations, etc. It's for me difficult to explain how

and in which moment it happened, but my symptoms became less

disturbing. I can't even find connections with the methods i applied.

Anyway, I could start to live normally. Already 3 yeras without

medecins. But still I can see it isn't resolved, there is something

that doesn't work. I have been using EFT for 1 month, one month and

half. Not everyday. From time to time. I got discoured when I noticed

that I can see no difference (maybe very little) and in the manual

it's written that in the majority of cases the results are immediate.

What I can notice after tapping is that the energy in my body

vibrates. I'm only 23 years old.

Lukasz

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> Thanks for your interest:).

My pleasure )

> So, I was suffering from insomnia for 3 years. Diagnosis was: 1.

> Generalized Anxiety Disorder, 2. Dysthymia. So, the main trait of

> these thing is their permanence and their chronic character. I was

> taking antidepressive medecins for at least 1,5 year. No results !

> Still hard insomnia (it was my main problem, not depression). 3

> years. Then I started my interests in Transpersonal Psychology,

> meditations, rebirthing, affirmations, etc. It's for me difficult to

> explain how and in which moment it happened, but my symptoms became

> less disturbing. I can't even find connections with the methods i

> applied. Anyway, I could start to live normally. Already 3 yeras

> without medecins. But still I can see it isn't resolved, there is

> something that doesn't work.

Thanks for the information. Now I understand your problem a little better.

> I have been using EFT for 1 month, one month and half. Not everyday.

> From time to time.

O.K. here's part of the reason why you are not noticing results. The

two key things that makes or breaks EFT is persistance and specificity.

In a condition such as yours, you need to be using EFT dilligently

every day. I have been using EFT for a little more than a year and a

half, everyday, for 1 - 2 hours on average. There were some days, in

the beginning, where I spend the entire day tapping. Thankfully, those

days are over. Suffice it to say, I was extremely persistant and

committed to resolving the issues that has built up over 48 years.

Specificity is something that can easily be forgotten by both new and

old users alike. A lot of people make the mistake of being too global

in their affirmation statements and reminder phrases. An example would

be when tapping for depression. Most people would think that by

tapping along the lines of, " Even though I have this depression, .... "

that their depression would disappear. More often than not they're

surprised when nothing much happens. Why would this be? Well, quite

simply, it's too global. With complex issues such as depression and

anxieties the key is to dig into them and discover just what it is

that's causing the person to be depressed or anxious. These are called

the 'aspects' of the problem. In some cases, there may be just one or

two aspects. In others, there may be as many as 50 or more. Until you

dig into a complex issue, you just don't know what aspects your

dealing with.

> I got discoured when I noticed that I can see no difference (maybe

> very little) and in the manual it's written that in the majority of

> cases the results are immediate.

Ah, the dreaded 'one minute wonder'. While it's true that many cases

resolve within a round or two of tapping, this is not the case

everytime. The quick resolutions go along with being able to rapidly

discover the core issues that many of the problems are based upon.

That's part of the 'art' of EFT. Like anything else, it take time,

patience, persistance, and stubbing a toe or two to develop this

essential skill. It's akin to going out to play football for the first

time. While most people can go out on the field and play reasonably

well, they're not world class players after their first game. It takes

a lot of practice to get to that level.

> What I can notice after tapping is that the energy in my body

> vibrates.

That's a good sign. It means that something within your energy system

is shifting/changing. You're moving energy.

> I'm only 23 years old.

Sigh...to be 23 again )

O.K., here's some suggestions for you. I suspect that if you follow

them somewhat, you'll start to see what EFT can do.

1. Determine how fast you are tapping on yourself. I know it sounds

silly, but trust me on this. To determine how fast you're tapping,

say, " this headache " once while tapping on the key of a calculator.

You should have mashed the button from 5 to 7 times. If you did,

congratulations! That's the speed that you should be tapping at.

2. Keep a journal. As you tap, things will be popping into your head.

Write them down as they are indicators as to what you need to be

tapping on next.

3. In an earlier post, your brought up your father's temper when I

asked you about when you first noticed your symptoms. This is, in my

opinion, a core issue. This is where you should start. Tap on all of

the feelings you were experiencing during the time or times when your

father got angry. I grew up in a household similar to yours and

understand the dynamics that went along with a father who went off for

little or no reason. Put simply, it was the scariest roller coaster

ride I'd ever experienced, if you know what I mean.

4. Set aside time everyday to tap. This is important. I know that, in

the beginning, it's hard to get into the habit. But believe me, once

you get into the habit of tapping daily, there'll come a time when you

actually look forward to it. Try to set aside at least 1 hour a day,

at a time when there's no one around to distract you.

5. Always treat for psychlogical reversal. It's just good insurance to

help you attain results. Besides, it really doesn't take that long anyway.

6. Be as specific as possible! This is important. Here's an example.

Instead of saying, " My father yelled at me, " be more specific and say,

" My father yelled at me in the livingroom on Christmas. " This type of

specificity really speeds up resolution of whatever issue you're

dealing with. The more specific, the faster the resolution. It's as

simple as that.

Anyway, that's just a few suggestions. Use then or lose them as you

see fit. I'm going out of town tomarrow morning and won't be back

until Monday. If I get access to a computer, I'll check in on the

group and see how you're doing. In the meantime, be patient, be

persistant, be specific, and by all means, keep tapping )

-Jef