Re: WANTED: Solid Turdles ===>> Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue!

My advise on improved poopies is to experiment with both quantity and

type of fiber. I tried for over a year to embrace the citrucel, and

finally settled on Benefiber clear. It is not Dr R's first choice,

but we need our fiber and coating action and have to do what works to

get it daily. He wants us to watch particularly for " hidden sugars "

and that I found in most fiber except citrucel. I put the clear in

anything and never know it's there.

Psyllium husk, which is an alternative in the manual, is just

metamucil by its generic name from what I've read on labels. It

cramps me but some find it the only way to " go " . (Sorry, never can

resist a pun.)

It's important to find the right daily quantity for yourself as well.

Since fiber is a regulator and not a laxative, the answer may be more

or less than the recommendation for any individual. Since fiber traps

fat, I have worked up to four to six tablespoons a day with no

adverse effect. Be aware (if you aren't) that too much too fast will

often cause cramps, diarrhea and gas. You have to increase gradually.

The other thing I identified as a major issue for me was juices.

Making a juice based smoothie every morning just totally defeated all

efforts to regulate the action. For me, fruit smoothies are an

occasional treat, not a daily ritual. I can eat all the fresh, frozen

or canned fruit I care to eat, but juice causes immediate havoc for

me. The exception is tomato or V8, which is fine.

For me, there are no solid trouble foods (except the well documented

fats and sweets) but many of us find dairy, especially ice cream,

will provoke action unexpectedly :-) It might help to keep a food

diary for a few days to identify any problem foods causing your

problem.

Getting the fiber right and keeping it right is a challenge, but it

really pays off in so many ways. Also, I believe others have reported

diarrhea from actigal, so the problem may resolve itself with that

change, too. I lost so slowly I never reached the 10 pounds per month

to start actigall, so anything I say on that subject is just gossip.

Be well! And keep matches in the ladies loo.

Tj

>

> .....are formed stools in my future? Just when exactly will

I stop

> pooping soup? Its kinda driving me nuts. I am a month out today

and that

> is the only thing that hasn't resolved and is causing me issues. I

can't

> go back to work next week having to get up in the middle of client

meetings

> all the time. And yes - I am taking my citrucel.

>

> I was also having big nausea & dizziness issues up until last week

when

> thru process of elimination I figured it was the actigall - so I

have

> stopped taking it. I have a few calls & emails into Dr. R & Sandy,

but I

> haven't heard back. Hopefully I will hear back after the holiday

season

> craziness is over next week, but I am hoping he has an alternative

I can

> use. I won't take take the actigall again, its just not worth

feeling that

> bad. I am unfortunately super sensitive to alot of meds. Any

advice out

> there?

>

> Sue in NY

> Dr R 11/29/06

> 280/256/130?

> Surg date/Now/someday?

> 7 ft bypass

>

>

>

> Re: WANTED: Agent Orange!

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/30/2006 6:50:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> sassy37cat@... writes:

>

> LOL! Very good Joanie! EMBRACE THE ORANGE! A great New Years

resolution

> for Newbies!

>

> in Fla

>

> Regarding the agent orange. Most people seem to think it stops

after the

> first 4 or 5 months. Not true. I know when I am having an agent

orange

> bowel

> movement and a non agent orange bowel movement. We may not be able

to see

> it

> like we did in the beginning but trust me it is there. It is now

> incorporated in the formed stool. It may not be as orange as it was

but it

> has a

> distinct odor. It smells like burnt oil. I know this is gross but

we need

> to

> understand that our body is still getting rid of extra fat and we

are not

> all of

> a sudden beginning to store all the fat we might take in sometimes.

I know

> when it is present and when it isn't and I know when to expect it

and when

> I

> know I am being good and won't see any. That is how it is with me.

Any

> other

> comments out there on this wonderful subject?

>

>

> 5/17/2006

> Dr. Rutledge

> 246/238.8/174/140 = 72lbs lost

> high/pre-op/now/goal

> 34 minutes/6 foot bypass

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

TJ has great advice. I agree with her on the fiber. I finally found that

taking two fiber Metamucil pills gave me the correct amount of fiber. The

powder didn't seem to produce the desired effect and the pills are much easier

to take. It was a little bit of a process to figure out what worked for me.

I too had nausea, diarrhea, and dizziness with the actigall and stopped

taking it. I haven't had any issues but I wonder if that is because I had my

gall bladder removed years ago. Good luck and keep trying...you will figure out

what is best for you.

Danee' in Oregon

12-14-05

270/135

Tj <fairywebmother62905@...> wrote:

Hi Sue!

My advise on improved poopies is to experiment with both quantity and

type of fiber. I tried for over a year to embrace the citrucel, and

finally settled on Benefiber clear. It is not Dr R's first choice,

but we need our fiber and coating action and have to do what works to

get it daily. He wants us to watch particularly for " hidden sugars "

and that I found in most fiber except citrucel. I put the clear in

anything and never know it's there.

Psyllium husk, which is an alternative in the manual, is just

metamucil by its generic name from what I've read on labels. It

cramps me but some find it the only way to " go " . (Sorry, never can

resist a pun.)

It's important to find the right daily quantity for yourself as well.

Since fiber is a regulator and not a laxative, the answer may be more

or less than the recommendation for any individual. Since fiber traps

fat, I have worked up to four to six tablespoons a day with no

adverse effect. Be aware (if you aren't) that too much too fast will

often cause cramps, diarrhea and gas. You have to increase gradually.

The other thing I identified as a major issue for me was juices.

Making a juice based smoothie every morning just totally defeated all

efforts to regulate the action. For me, fruit smoothies are an

occasional treat, not a daily ritual. I can eat all the fresh, frozen

or canned fruit I care to eat, but juice causes immediate havoc for

me. The exception is tomato or V8, which is fine.

For me, there are no solid trouble foods (except the well documented

fats and sweets) but many of us find dairy, especially ice cream,

will provoke action unexpectedly :-) It might help to keep a food

diary for a few days to identify any problem foods causing your

problem.

Getting the fiber right and keeping it right is a challenge, but it

really pays off in so many ways. Also, I believe others have reported

diarrhea from actigal, so the problem may resolve itself with that

change, too. I lost so slowly I never reached the 10 pounds per month

to start actigall, so anything I say on that subject is just gossip.

Be well! And keep matches in the ladies loo.

Tj

>

> .....are formed stools in my future? Just when exactly will

I stop

> pooping soup? Its kinda driving me nuts. I am a month out today

and that

> is the only thing that hasn't resolved and is causing me issues. I

can't

> go back to work next week having to get up in the middle of client

meetings

> all the time. And yes - I am taking my citrucel.

>

> I was also having big nausea & dizziness issues up until last week

when

> thru process of elimination I figured it was the actigall - so I

have

> stopped taking it. I have a few calls & emails into Dr. R & Sandy,

but I

> haven't heard back. Hopefully I will hear back after the holiday

season

> craziness is over next week, but I am hoping he has an alternative

I can

> use. I won't take take the actigall again, its just not worth

feeling that

> bad. I am unfortunately super sensitive to alot of meds. Any

advice out

> there?

>

> Sue in NY

> Dr R 11/29/06

> 280/256/130?

> Surg date/Now/someday?

> 7 ft bypass

>

>

>

> Re: WANTED: Agent Orange!

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 12/30/2006 6:50:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> sassy37cat@... writes:

>

> LOL! Very good Joanie! EMBRACE THE ORANGE! A great New Years

resolution

> for Newbies!

>

> in Fla

>

> Regarding the agent orange. Most people seem to think it stops

after the

> first 4 or 5 months. Not true. I know when I am having an agent

orange

> bowel

> movement and a non agent orange bowel movement. We may not be able

to see

> it

> like we did in the beginning but trust me it is there. It is now

> incorporated in the formed stool. It may not be as orange as it was

but it

> has a

> distinct odor. It smells like burnt oil. I know this is gross but

we need

> to

> understand that our body is still getting rid of extra fat and we

are not

> all of

> a sudden beginning to store all the fat we might take in sometimes.

I know

> when it is present and when it isn't and I know when to expect it

and when

> I

> know I am being good and won't see any. That is how it is with me.

Any

> other

> comments out there on this wonderful subject?

>

>

> 5/17/2006

> Dr. Rutledge

> 246/238.8/174/140 = 72lbs lost

> high/pre-op/now/goal

> 34 minutes/6 foot bypass

>

>