Re: [Tap 'n B Free] EFT for basic aspects of life

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: siri_mangipudi

Hi Everyone,

I am new to EFT and have taken help from a professional practitionar

to deal with complex problems in my life.

But Few things I really want to work on -

Laziness in doing the everyday things in life.

Being a good cook.

Keeping my house and surrondings clean.

These may seem like very simple issues but can have deeper problems

when you cannot keep up to the cleanliness levels of your spouse or

are afraid to entertain just cos you are not a good cook. This can

have effect on ones self esteem if you hold it against your self.

Though this may sounds vain and unimportant to lot of you I was

wondering if anyone could suggest ways for me to start tapping.

Anyone else feeling these kind of stuff.

Need help so that I can move on to better things in life .

Thank you,

siri

Dear Siri,

In addition to the Kalos wholistic health and energy healing suggestions I have

written to you offlist, here are a few ideas for EFT. There are many people on

the list...and you will probably receive many good responses....these are just a

few:

First of all, what are the emotions that you feel when you think about doing

" the everyday things in life, being a good cook, and keeping the surroundings

clean " ? For example, let's suppose the emotion was " feeling resentful " or

" feeling frustrated " or " feeling bored and fed up " , or " feeling lethargic and

tired and can't be bothered " , or " overwhelmed " , or " it is NOT my job alone " , or

" hate/despise " ....

1. Then tap on those emotions:

Even though I feel ____________ (e.g. resentful) when I think about doing

the housekeeping, I deeply and completely accept myself.

Even though I feel _____________ (e.g. frustrated, or bored and fed up) when

I have to plan, shop for and cook fresh meals everyday, I deeply and completely

accept myself.

Even though I feel ______________ (e.g. lethargic and tired and can't be

bothered) when I have to do the housecleaning and other chores around the house,

I deeply and completely accept myself.

Even though I feel______________ (e.g. overwhlemed, or it is NOT my job

alone)when I have to do housework, I deeply and completely accept myself.

Even though I ___________(e.g. hate/despise) doing household work, I deeply

and completely accept myself.

See what the level of emotion is before you start (0-10) and bring it down to a

zero. Is there any other time in the past when these emotions came up? When?

What was going on? Who else was there? How were you feeling then? Tap on the

past event it triggered till the emotions have subsided and the SUDs are a zero.

Make sure you clear all leftover judgment, criticism and blame as well as

unforgivenesses towards yourself, others and God.

2. Is there any other time in your life when you felt similarly unmotivated? If

it is a time of trauma, you can even use the tearless trauma technique. You can

read more about his on 's website. Do a search for " tearless trauma "

technique.

3. Another way is to tap the positive and negative as you go along:

For example:

Tapping left acupoint) Even though I've been choosing to feel

resentful/frustrated/bored when I _____________ (name the activity),

(Tapping right acupoint) I now choose to feel

refreshed/enthusiastic/happy/motivated/excited when I do that.

In addition, it helps to build your DESIRE for it....think of all the reasons

you'd want to do these tasks...and make a list...then do something relaxing and

while you are relaxed, add more and more points to the list of reasons why....as

the list grows...at some point, your motivation level will be pretty high and

you will be feeling good at the prospect of doing this.

May I also recommend that you join the In The Flow Research list...you will find

much material that will be food for thought and will help you to learn about how

we are all deliberately creating all the time with every thought word and deed,

and how to " pivot " and turn things around!

To do so, please send a blank email to

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22nd of every month. See:

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Welcome to our list....we hope you find what you are looking for here. :-)

There are many EFT practitioners, enthusiastic EFT buffs and newbies who can be

of support.

Warmly,

Daya

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Dear Siri,

A few things come to mind when I read your posts, and these only come to

mind because this has been something I've had to deal with and are still

dealing with. I think often these issues are a presenting problem and are

not the real problem, we seem to think that somehow we're lazy not wanting

to take on the traditional role, and perhaps if we liked doing these things

then it would make it easier. This part of your email caught my eye.....

.....you cannot keep up to the cleanliness levels of your spouse.......

I would start tapping around feeling that you have to meet others

expectations of you and that you have to be who they want you to be, a good

housewife, a good cook etc.....I find that I can still do the same amount

of chores etc when I do it my way than thinking that others want me to have

a clean house all the time and cook suburb meals every night....with no

help from anyone. And theres always a good justification from them to hook

me into the guilt.....a case of comparing how much each person

does....often I do alot of cleaning at night cause thats when I have alot

of energy. And I dont like cooking and anyone who wants a gourmet meal can

either cook it themselves or they can eat out, but thats not who I am.

Im now wondering if perhaps you live in more of a traditional country than

mine, and all of what Ive said goes out the door....

Kate

At 22:33 3/05/03 -0400, you wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: siri_mangipudi

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

> I am new to EFT and have taken help from a professional practitionar

> to deal with complex problems in my life.

> But Few things I really want to work on -

> Laziness in doing the everyday things in life.

> Being a good cook.

> Keeping my house and surrondings clean.

>

> These may seem like very simple issues but can have deeper problems

> when you cannot keep up to the cleanliness levels of your spouse or

> are afraid to entertain just cos you are not a good cook. This can

> have effect on ones self esteem if you hold it against your self.

> Though this may sounds vain and unimportant to lot of you I was

> wondering if anyone could suggest ways for me to start tapping.

> Anyone else feeling these kind of stuff.

>

> Need help so that I can move on to better things in life .

> Thank you,

> siri

[Guest guest]

Hi Siri

Welcome to eft and this list

You wrote:

But Few things I really want to work on -

Laziness in doing the everyday things in life.

Being a good cook.

Keeping my house and surroundings clean.

### From my own experience these issues are only areas that mirror my inner

state of being. You have already touched on this below.

These may seem like very simple issues but can have deeper problems

when you cannot keep up to the cleanliness levels of your spouse

### This may be an area where you two have decided to play at power and 'who

is the boss' The eft set-up phrase allows for a lot of leeway here.

Even though I'm not as nitpicking as my spouse I deeply and completely

accept myself

Even though my spouse wants the impossible I deeply and completely accept

myself

Even though my 'cleanliness levels' are 'lower' than my spouse's I deeply...

(Isn't it just wonderful how we allow ourselves to be 'less' valuable than

others for such ridiculous reasons?)

Even though I have to jump through hoops to make other people feel good I

deeply ...

Even though I don't want to please others anymore, I deeply...

or

are afraid to entertain just cos you are not a good cook.

### Even though I'm afraid to entertain, ...

Even though I can't cook well ...

(I've found that my ability to cook deteriorates with the pressure to

perform. Dishes only turn out a flop when I feel I should do well, like when

I cook when my son in law comes, because he is a chef. )

This can

have effect on ones self esteem if you hold it against your self.

### Maybe it is even the other way round? Maybe you only hold it against

yourself because you have a low self esteem. When my self esteem is high I

can't be bothered about a few dust devils under the bed, some clutter on the

floor and a burned toast.

Though this may sounds vain and unimportant to lot of you I was

wondering if anyone could suggest ways for me to start tapping.

Anyone else feeling these kind of stuff.

### Been there, done it. <grin>

Need help so that I can move on to better things in life .

### Even though these things are not the best in my life, I deeply and

completely accept myself.

You know, the secret to a better life is acknowledging and appreciating the

current circumstances. As long as we resist being were we are at any given

moment this will persist in our lives.

Blessed be

Ulrike

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Siri, here are some AbeQuotes you may enjoy reading...and having read them, take

a moment to really reach for thoughts that make you feel good, like

appreciation...(of anything!) and when you are F E E L I N G G O O D, then you

can more easily focus on WHAT IT IS THAT YOU REALLY WANT! And the more you

focus on what you want...the more you bring it into being. Have fun

manifesting!

Love,

Daya

p.s. - what a lovely discussion thread you have started...seems like it is a

topic that affects many others... :-) wonderful! I appreciate you for bringing

it up on our list - thank you!

~~

If we were wanting to reach for joyful experience, or the experience of

connection, we would superimpose the word " appreciation " , because it is a purer

vibration for most. When you say, " I want that, or I have to have that, "

sometimes it can get messy. But when you say, " I surely do appreciate that, "

there is very little contradictory vibration within you. And you are much more

likely to then use that as your excuse to allow what you've been telling the

Universe, all along, with your yippees and s, that you are wanting.

~~

There is such a tendency to say, " Well, I would do it this way, and therefore

you should do it this way. And if you don't do it the way I do it, then there's

something wrong with one or the other of us. " And that isn't true at all. You

are just approaching things in different ways, all working. Whether it seems

like it or not -- you are all working toward the same ultimate goal of joy.

G-12/11 & 12/99

As long as you're unhappy about not being over there, or feeling unworthy or

incomplete or dissatisfied about not being over there, you cannot get over

there, because over there is a different vibration than the predominant

vibration you're offering. Until you are joyful in your not being over there,

you can't get over there.

G-1/18/00

In the same way that you can feel fed or hungry, or all-is-well or thirsty, or

that you prefer that to that -- every particle of the Universe is discerning,

similar to that. And every time contrast causes any consciousness to conclude

anything, that conclusion is then answered by that Stream. The evolution of the

species is exactly about this: In the way the Universe is established, as each

consciousness is selfishly reaching for that which feels best -- the whole

benefits from that.

G-1/22/00

Even when we are encouraging you to selfishly seek your own joy, we are

actually saying to you: Your joy is the greatest gift that you can give to

anyone. Because unless you are in your joy, you have nothing to give, anyway.

G-12/11 & 12/99

~~

Abe - BOTH getting what they want

BOTH getting what they want

'The Universe can please all of you at the same time. " Well, how can

that be? If I want to live in the mountains and she wants to live at

the ocean, how could the Universe possibly please us both? " And we

say, as each of you gets to the essence of why you want what you

want, and are not pointing at the other and saying, " No, no, not

that, please not that, " the Universe can fulfill both.'

Abraham-Hicks Jan/Feb/March newsletter 2002

Forbidden Belly Button Ring

GUEST: I don't get along with my father very well. He has very

contradictory ideas about what I want to do, and I was wondering, if

he wants something very strongly... Well, I want to pierce my belly

button and he does not want me to do that. It's like a sin, and so if

he is wanting very much for me to have a whole complete belly button

without any holes or anything, and I am wanting to have a belly ring,

how will that work out?

ABRAHAM: All right, now, let us show you what's happening here.

Teenagers are the one example in all of the Universe that defies the

Law of Attraction as we know it to be. (group laughs) We are having

fun with you. What happens with any two groups or two armies or any

two people that are wanting something different from the other...what

happens is, as your father knows clearly what he does not want and

gives that his attention, he is disempowered, which makes him mad at

you, because it is his attention to you that makes him feel so bad.

As you see your father as someone big and strong and in your way from

what you want, you are disempowered, which makes you want to blame

him for the way you feel. You're both using each other as your excuse

to not be connected to your Energy Stream.

So as each of you, independently from each other, focuses upon what

you don't want, momentarily, because that's always the best way to

identify what you do want... So your father would say, " Well I know

what I don't want. I don't want her puncturing her body. I know what

I don't want. I don't want her wearing something that is a symbol of

something that I don't feel comfortable with. It could mean any

number of things. But it is representation of something that I am not

at one with. I don't want her getting a belly button ring because I

wouldn't get one. I don't want her getting a belly ring because it

makes her appear to be something other than what I want her to appear

to be. " Now, having said that, his desire may be erupting within him,

and so then he could begin saying, " What I want to include, relative

to my daughter, is I want her to be so at one with who she is that

she acknowledges that all is well with her. I want her to feel so

self-sufficient about who she is that she doesn't have to do anything

faddish in order to fit in. I want her to feel so confident and so

comfortable and so connected to who she is that she just radiates the

essence of that and doesn't feel any desire to go the way of the fad.

I want her to acknowledge that her magnificent body is young and

beautiful and delicious, and I want her desire to be to hold it in

that place forevermore. " Now, if your father is saying those kinds of

things to you, we don't think you'd feel so much resistance about it.

When he taps into the pure essence of his Nonphysical Energy and

expresses that to you, you would not feel nearly so much resistance

Now, let's say that you're saying, " I don't want somebody telling me

what I can and cannot do. I don't want somebody else making their

decisions for me. I don't want somebody else making the decisions

about what I do with my own body. " So you know what you don't want.

And then you begin making your statements of inclusion. " I want my

daddy to realize that I'm all grown up. I want him to know that I

really know what I'm doing. I want to be self-sufficient. I want to

be... "

All of a sudden, when you both start including, you find yourself

saying the same kinds of things. In other words, you are in absolute

harmony about what you want. And the belly ring is superfluous to any

of it. Get it or don't get it. It doesn't matter. You can both still

have what you want.

Abraham-Hicks Jan/Feb/Mar 1997 newsletter

~~

AbeQuotes: Rampage of Appreciation - I:

EmotionalFreedomTechniques/message/5622

Abequotes - Rampage of Appreciation - II

EmotionalFreedomTechniques/message/5623

Abequotes - Rampage of Appreciation - II

There is nothing more productive for any of you, than to get on a

rampage of

appreciation relative to any subject of your desire. Because you

cannot be in

the state of appreciation and at the same time hold yourself

vibrationally

apart from something you desire. They are two opposite vibrations.

You cannot appreciate the idea of a relationship and hold yourself

apart from

one at the same time. You can't appreciate the idea of a healthy

body, whether

it is yours or someone else's, and hold yourself apart from it at

the same

time.

When you are in the vibration of appreciation, you are in the

vibration of

allowing. Whatever it is you are appreciating, you are allowing,

with that much

more emphasis, in the now. In other words, it speeds the process.

If we were wanting to reach for joyful experience, or the experience

of

connection, we would superimpose the word " appreciation " , because it

is a purer

vibration for most. When you say, " I want that, or I have to have

that, "

sometimes it can get messy. But when you say, " I surely do

appreciate that, "

there is very little contradictory vibration within you. And you are

much more

likely to then use that as your excuse to allow what you've been

telling the

Universe, all along, with your yippees and s, that you are

wanting.

The art of letting it in says, " Well-being abounds, and I'm a worthy

receiver

of it. And when I think that thought, I don't let it in. When I

think that

thought, I let it in a little more. And when I think that thought, I

really let

it in. I choose that thought. " Do I choose that thought because it

is reality?

Do I choose that thought because my parents agree with it? No, but I

choose

that thought because it lets it in.

Do I choose that thought because statistics say it's the truth? Do I

choose

that thought because a lot of wise people choose that thought and

therefore it

must be a good thought? No, I choose that thought for only one

reason: in

choosing that thought, I feel better. This thought feels better than

that

thought. This thought feels better than that thought.

From Abraham-Hicks Workshop

Syracuse, NY -- 9/30/00

~~

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[Guest guest]

Hi Siri,

Since my two little daughters came along I have had alot of trouble

in fitting into the 'good housewife' role! I found I had a majour

resistance to doing the housework, except for the very bare basics.

So i decided to tap on my 'resistance to housework' and 'even though

i hate housework'. At one point during the tapping I had a very

strong impression of feeling deep resentment at my father for

expecting my mother to to all the household chores while he spent his

time either at work or playing golf. He never lifted a finger to help

her and somewhere along the line I must have made a decision to never

let that happen to me, I must have sensed my mothers dissatisfaction

with this assigned role.

This would never had conciously occured to me has I not done EFT on

housework -- amazing! And, yes, I feel more positive about doing

those chores I 'need' to do!

Love,

Carly in Australia

[Guest guest]

Dear Kat what you resists persists..you could try sending love to these

alcoholics and ask what in your life are you addicted to?

You could even tap Even tho alcoholics are attracted to me I still love and

accept myself.

anna

[Guest guest]

Re: [Tap 'n B Free] EFT for basic aspects of life

--- KAT <kitkatbarr2000@...> wrote:

> " Daya D'Sa

>

> I have been on this list since last year and I have

> read pretty most all of the emails that go thru

> here..and I have read your helpful responses..

>

> The question I have is this....Why are alcoholics

> attracted to me!!!!!

>

> Hello Kat, I'm not Daya but I think your e-mail is

really great. Reminds me of a psycologist friend of

mine who asked the room we were sitting in, why do I

get all the schizoprenics knocking on my door?

There is a message in this for you. They will go away

when you finish working on your stuff (issues)about

alcoholics. Weird but true.I've Had similiar

situations. It's like I was a magnet for different

issues that I hadn't finished working on and they just

kept showing up in my life to say here we are fella.

When I let go of my stuff they just disappeared.

Sometimes they are disowned part's of me and sometimes

reminders of folks I haven't finished working out a

particular issue with. Best of luck. Yours,

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kat, thanks for all your contributions to the list over the period of your

membership.

I second 's post. See what it is about alcoholics being attracted to you

that bothers you. What is the attached emotion? Chances are you are attracting

more of the same because the emotions around it have a charge. When you clear

up that emotional charge, chances are you won't attract it any more. Also, as

s says, finish any unfinished business you have with any alcoholics -

forgive whoever you need to forgive, ask forgiveness if needed. Use BSFF, use

TAT, use EFT, use Kalos, use whatever...but one way or another, do the

forgiveness work!!!! Also, cut cords, cut cords, cut cords!!!

Being in Your Power: Cutting Cords at the Solar Plexus and EFT

EmotionalFreedomTechniques/message/2874

Make sure that you have " 100% boundaries with the people who have tended to

trigger you " . This means that you no longer have a knee-jerk reaction to them,

but can come from choice in your response to them. You can even love them

unconditionally without needing to change them or live their lives for them.

You can let them be free to make their own choices. And you can let yourself be

free to make your own choices. It's not about them, it's about how you feel

about them and react to them!!! When there is no more triggered reaction, then

you will have set them free and you will have set yourself free too.

I learned a lot about this when I learned the Law of Attraction and the Law of

Allowing. My daughter (who's 16) just said to me today, " Mummy, for a mother

and daughter team, we are pretty good friends. " It's an ongoing process of

letting go, I think. Don't you? It's easier to be friends when you do not need

to control them or they do not need to control you.

Read these articles:

To Let Go

InTheFlowResearch/message/1747

Control versus Trust

EmotionalFreedomTechniques/message/6096

InTheFlowResearch/message/688

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InTheFlowResearch-subscribe , then when you are a member, you can

read them. ]

Well, Kat, I hope that has been of some help. Let me know if you have any other

questions or require further assistance. I usually work best one-on-one with

someone, actually!!!

Love,

Daya

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Dayawanti D'Sa, BBA [Fin & Bkg], CKHFT [Dip - A.K.]

Applied Kinesiologist

Certified Kalos Health Facilitator Trainer www.kalos.org

EFT, BSFF, TAT, iSt 9x9, Silva Method, Allergy Antidotes/Energy Toxins,

Light Language, Reiki, Cranio-Sacral, Meditation enthusiast: www.sos.org

Member: Nat'l Assoc of Naturopaths, Montreal, Canada

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[Guest guest]

Read also:

Ego - The Owner's Manual

EmotionalFreedomTechniques/message/5386

Love,

d

----- Original Message -----

From: Daya D'Sa

Read these articles:

To Let Go

InTheFlowResearch/message/1747

Control versus Trust

EmotionalFreedomTechniques/message/6096

InTheFlowResearch/message/688

[ To read the articles on the Flow list, simply send a blank email to

InTheFlowResearch-subscribe , then when you are a member, you can

read them. ]

Well, Kat, I hope that has been of some help. Let me know if you have any

other questions or require further assistance. I usually work best one-on-one

with someone, actually!!!

Love,

Daya

---------------------------------------------------

Dayawanti D'Sa, BBA [Fin & Bkg], CKHFT [Dip - A.K.]

Applied Kinesiologist

Certified Kalos Health Facilitator Trainer www.kalos.org

EFT, BSFF, TAT, iSt 9x9, Silva Method, Allergy Antidotes/Energy Toxins,

Light Language, Reiki, Cranio-Sacral, Meditation enthusiast: www.sos.org

Member: Nat'l Assoc of Naturopaths, Montreal, Canada

Moderator: [Tap 'n B Free]

www./group/EmotionalFreedomTechniques

Moderator: [inTheFlowResearch] InTheFlowResearch

International Phone Consultations: 1 (786) 293-8123

sequoia40@..., innerlight_sound@...

To Schedule Appointments, contact Debbie djac705877@...

[Guest guest]

> I think they have a aura about me being a caregiver!

> I want someone to be compatible with and take care of me .

>

Hi Kat,

To find that person go straight to the nearest mirror. That is the

most important relationship you have to establish first.

Blessings, Nels

[Guest guest]

Hi,

The reason they quit showing up is because of the " law of attraction " , which is

a law just like the law of gravity. Your vibration is no longer a match for it

when you heal the issue. You can learn more about the law of attraction at

www.abraham-hicks.com .

Kathleen

Re: [Tap 'n B Free] EFT for basic aspects of life

Thanks . I'm not the original questionner, but I sure had the same

question!

Muse

> There is a message in this for you. They will go away

> when you finish working on your stuff (issues)about

> alcoholics. Weird but true.I've Had similiar

> situations. It's like I was a magnet for different

> issues that I hadn't finished working on and they just

> kept showing up in my life to say here we are fella.

> When I let go of my stuff they just disappeared.

> Sometimes they are disowned part's of me and sometimes

> reminders of folks I haven't finished working out a

> particular issue with. Best of luck. Yours,

>

[Guest guest]

Great post, . This part really hit me:

> The other part that I got from this workshop was IT

> ISN " T THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU. But this

> is HOW YOU TREAT YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT

> YOURSELF.And I wasn't aware that I did this to myself.

I sure wouldn't be able to relate to being " like Hitler, " but when you say

what you wrote above and that I might treat myself as Hitler would treat me, I

can agree.

Solzhenitsyn wrote that had fate not intervened, he would have

become exactly like the Stalinist soldiers who were oppressors of the people.

He

said he was well on his way. Now, that I can relate to. " There but for

fortune . . . " But to say I hate/dislike liars (for example), because I am

one?

No. I hate them because they mislead me in the past and hurt me.

Had fate not intervened, had I not been hurt by the lies, etc. of others'

would I be a liar now? I don't know. Maybe that's possible, just as

Solshenitsyn might have been a Stalinist oppressor.

Muse

> And it speeded up change enormously. One of the

> biggest things I have learned in my life is how much I

> treat myself as a victim. And one of the hardest

> things that I have struggled with and perhaps everyone

> struggles with is changing from that victim mentality

> to one having personal power. Power not in the sense

> of muscle and strength guy stuff. Gorilla. Tree.

> Bulldowser. You can't hurt me I'm so tuff. But

> internal knowing that there is nothing wrong with me.

> Man is that powerful.

>

> As for beating oneselves up for seeing negatives in

> others and thinking that's me, I don't judge or

> condemn myself, for having these thoughts and old ways

> of thinking. I've done enough of that already. Here I

> can have a tool to now change these things because I

> see them clearly in front of my face.

>

> STORY: I was in a meeting where the leader was an AA

> Course in Miracles guy. We were talking over this and

> somehow he said Hitler is a reflection of you. Now one

> thing you don't say to a Jew (even an agnostic one)is

> you could be Hitler. I gave him a piece of my mind

> that would have fried an egg without a stove.

>

> Now 6 months later, you know I could be just like

> Hitler. I have that part in me too. I don't choose to

> be like that, but it is possible. He was talkinig of

> the capacity of all people to be something pretty

> awful. And if I recognize that, I can also be the

> Dalai Lama. Which I prefer at the moment. So that's

> what I've found for myself. Yours,

>

>

[Guest guest]

From: paul kemp

<Here I can have a tool to now change these things because I see them clearly in

front of my face. >

Well-explained, . One's denied self/shadow is something that one can give

oneself time to get acquainted with. We have many parts inside. What we judge

in others, we judge doubly hard in ourselves...how then can we possibly allow

ourselves to acknowledge these parts?????? It takes a decision to view life

from one's Expanded Self, and a choice to want to know one's perpetrations. The

funny part is, that the greatest shifts in our life are made when we accept

these denied parts of ourselves. They hold the key to our real transformations.

This summer, I will be teaching a loving gentle way of dealing with our parts

inside called PIVOT - Positive Intention Validation Offering Transformation.

Participants will learn the PIVOTAL TECHNIQUE - and it is a loving way of

accepting all our parts, no matter what thoughts/feelings/emotions/behavior they

exhibit. In this method we validate the positive intention of our parts....and

in that appreciation, acceptance, validation and gratitude to those immature ego

states lies the very key to their transformation.....when they have trust that

you are willing to listen to them and realize that you accept them no matter

what, there is a willingness to learn new ways. It is this willingness that

allows them to open up to a Full Potential Image that they can trust and one

which can teach them new behaviors to achieve the same positive intentions. You

can actually feel the form or shape of the old pattern merge into the new mature

one, called the Full Potential Image. Trust is the key. As long as there is no

trust, the pattern will not change. It will hang on to the old behaviors. The

minute the trust factor comes in, then the change is instantaneous. It's a

really WOW method!!! I've used it with many clients, some of them on this list,

and I think they will agree with me! :-) This method helps enhance intuition

and it also helps to tune in to one's own guidance system, while deeply

connecting with the core patterns inside, and helping them to transform.

I will also be teaching an incredible new thing I've come up with called the

Well-Being Quotient and Daily W-B Saturation Levels. As we bring our Well-Being

Quotient up to its maximum every day, then incredible changes start happening in

our lives.... in my life, I seem to have boomeranged into a real creative spurt!

It's been one month now, and I started out with a Well-Being Quotient of 10%

which went up to a 100%, then defaulted to 35% after a few days. More

transformational work. Then it went up to 100% and defaulted back to 60%. Some

more transformational work. Up to a 100%, back to 75%. Up to 100%, default to

96%. Up to 100%, default to 99%. It feels wonderful!!!!

If anyone going to the Energy Psychology Conference in Brighton this summer

would like to learn these methods, write to me and I will send you a write-up

with testimonials and PowerPoint Presentation of the details of the seminar.

Registration will be at The AMT website, www.theamt.com

I will also be teaching The famous Kalos Process in this seminar PIVOT, and Dr.

Moreton, the founder of Kalos, has said that those who learn the Kalos

Process with me can be exempted from doing the Kalos I Seminar, and can proceed

straight to the follow-up Kalos II, III, and IV. This is truly a big gift. The

work is talking about is well-covered in Kalos I (healing primary

relationships with Mum/Dad/primary caretakers and seeing one's Perpetrations,

learning how the mind works, etc.) and Kalos II (relationships to people, money,

sexuality...everything). For more info see www.kalos.org

I am soooo excited to teach and share these methods of how to handle the parts

in a beautifully constructive way, and also to introduce Well-Being Quotient and

Daily W-B Saturation Levels to the participants. I am currently doing this

one-on-one with clients. Anyone who'd like to experience this can write to me.

The key for transformation is unconditional love and acceptance of all our

parts....and it works beautifully.

Love,

Daya

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Applied Kinesiologist

Certified Kalos Health Facilitator Trainer www.kalos.org

EFT, BSFF, TAT, iSt 9x9, Silva Method, Allergy Antidotes/Energy Toxins,

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Debbie Ford does alot of shadow work, and something I read that she said

and that helped me to own the shadow side more is that its not so much that

you are HItler, or that you would do what he did, but ask yourself, what is

the quality/characteristic of Hitler that you see. I would see

heartlessness, ruthlessness, selfishness....and these are the shadow

selves. I think people get stuck in thinking, I would never kill anyone,

and thereby reject this angle on ownership. Having been very hard on myself

this lifetime I also would ask myself where Ive also disowned my light, Im

good at owning my darkness, but owning my light is even harder. Light is a

shadow self too.

Kate

At 12:11 PM 5/30/03 -0700, you wrote:

>Now 6 months later, you know I could be just like

>Hitler. I have that part in me too. I don't choose to

>be like that, but it is possible. He was talkinig of

>the capacity of all people to be something pretty

>awful. And if I recognize that, I can also be the

>Dalai Lama. Which I prefer at the moment. So that's

>what I've found for myself. Yours,

[Guest guest]

Hi Alert,

> Do you think that there are some people who are so far removed from

> themselves and so deep into there shadow that they are unable to connect to

anyone,

> anything and even themselves?

This sounds very much like autism.

>

> Do you think there are some people who have no conscience or remorse as a

> result of this detachment of themselves?

This would be a psychopath. So, yes, I think there are people of both types,

and one is not necessarily the other at all. Just MHO.

>

> To put it simply: Is asking these people to feel like asking a blind person

> to see? They just don't have the equipment.

>

> Alert

I think that, but I also believe there is a decision in the case of a

psychopath. I know not everyone believes this, but I do. I think at some point

they

make the choice to " turn it off. "

Muse

>

>

[Guest guest]

On 1/6/03 8:45 AM, " musicalpaint@... " <musicalpaint@...> wrote:

> Hi Alert,

>

>> Do you think that there are some people who are so far removed from

>> themselves and so deep into there shadow that they are unable to connect to

>> anyone,

>> anything and even themselves?

>

> This sounds very much like autism.

>

>>

>> Do you think there are some people who have no conscience or remorse as a

>> result of this detachment of themselves?

>

> This would be a psychopath. So, yes, I think there are people of both types,

> and one is not necessarily the other at all. Just MHO.

Not necessarily - they may have just buried things so deep that there is

nothing in their conscious mind to be remorseful about. This can happen when

the whole situation is very painful to them, or when the situation is the

result of something very painful in their past.

Eg the person who sexually abused me in my teenage years has no memory of

it. He has buried it very deeply. On the other hand, I have never forgotten,

but I have forgiven him for the period of abuse, and I've just discovered

that I now need to forgive him for burying and forgetting it.

I suspect that he buried it during a decade or more of isolation in the

following years. He never felt remorse for it... but then he himself had an

extremely difficult life for all except 2 of the first 35 years of his life!

He had to detach himself just to live with himself for all those years. He

has finally found happiness in his old age - a man who can only remember the

occasional good things from his life.

He could never have been labeled a psychopath. He had a conscience in many

other areas (he was a committed Christian), just not in relation to his

blind spot, his twisted definition of a 'wife' (he considered me his second

wife - hardly, he was married and I was 14) and what kind of sexual

behaviour was acceptable and what was not (chasing girls my age!)

Its not for us to judge others too harshly ... We don't know what's in their

heart, nor do we know where they have come from, what lessons they are

learning, and what lessons they have contracted to help others to learn.

>

>>

>> To put it simply: Is asking these people to feel like asking a blind person

>> to see? They just don't have the equipment.

>>

>> Alert

>

> I think that, but I also believe there is a decision in the case of a

> psychopath. I know not everyone believes this, but I do. I think at some

> point they

> make the choice to " turn it off. "

No, sometimes it is turned off because it is too painful not to. Not a

conscious choice. But it may not be our job to turn it back on.

I wouldn't necessarily even label these people 'evil'. I have another

relative who sexually abused his adopted ADHD, learning disabled son, then

covered up by telling those who had been told by the son, that the son loved

to make up fanciful stories, but he, the boy's father, was a strong

Christian man. This all came out after he died ... I have a very strong

feeling that although he hasn't gone to the light yet, he will, eventually,

when he is shown and accepts that God's love is still strong enough to

accept him when he decides to accept that love. I've prayed about this

several times...and that is the answer I get. Not quite what I expected!

I think the message I'm trying to relate is that we don't know enough about

other people to judge them. Sometimes when we are very close to the picture,

we can't see it as clearly as when we can step outside the picture, and look

at it the way God/the universe looks at it.

We don't know why people do bad things to us. Hey, we've done bad things to

other people too. And maybe it was part of our destiny to experience these

bad things so that we could grow from them. That's the way I see my past

now. It's the only thing that makes sense of my history, and I'm not just

talking about my teenage years, but the following 20 years as well, which

were even more interesting! ;(

Sorry I wandered a bit ... I need to start thinking positive thoughts again

.... Too much negativity is not good for me!

Love and best wishes

Vivienne

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate,

Great post! You make good points. I especially like the point you made

about how it's hard to acknowledge our light, and that light is a shadow self

too.

Muse

> Hi ,

>

> Debbie Ford does alot of shadow work, and something I read that she said

> and that helped me to own the shadow side more is that its not so much that

> you are HItler, or that you would do what he did, but ask yourself, what is

> the quality/characteristic of Hitler that you see. I would see

> heartlessness, ruthlessness, selfishness....and these are the shadow

> selves. I think people get stuck in thinking, I would never kill anyone,

> and thereby reject this angle on ownership. Having been very hard on myself

> this lifetime I also would ask myself where Ive also disowned my light, Im

> good at owning my darkness, but owning my light is even harder. Light is a

> shadow self too.

>

> Kate

>

[Guest guest]

Good questions . Perhaps the difference between you and the psychopath

is intention, and perhaps impulse control. LOL We hope.

Kate

At 02:47 PM 6/2/03 -0700, you wrote:

> And then the fear is what IS the difference

>between the psychopath, and me. What a conundrum.