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Hi Mellanie,

I haven't done pure juice fasting for any great length of time, but I

did recently spend 3 weeks at OHI, which is a very strict raw foods

vegan diet - with 3 consecutive days of juice fasting per week. (I

actually found the juice fast days much easier than the raw foods diet).

It was a very interesting experience. My RA improved greatly, I was able

to cut out Aleve completely and reduced my pred from 14 to 6 mg. Plus

my hair stopped falling out!

But I had a really hard time and was very sick near the end, could not

keep anything down including juice. They said I was detoxing and it was

OK, although my naturopath says it was probably too much for me - that

people with a heavy toxin load need to do it gently lest you overload

your liver. I finally cheated near the end and went into town for a

spinach, pecan and feta salad at Whole Foods Market!! I really felt like

I was starving and was so weak, since I basically had no nutrition for a

week. Anyhow, two days later my knee swelled up terribly - I expect it

was the dairy although I was so spacy at the time that I didn't make

that connection until recently. In fact, when I came home, I ate a lot

of raw dairy (per Dr. Mercola) but I think that was a mistake... I ended

up adding back the Aleve and the pred is back up to 10 mg (at least I'm

not all the way back to 14, although 10 is still way too much).

Unfortunately, I really " fell off the wagon " when I returned home... I

found it nearly impossible to stick to that diet in the real world -

anyone else have experience with a 100% raw vegan diet?

I am planning to do a 3 day juice fast later this week.... and am

restarting my clindy IVs and getting back on the program. Have been off

the AP for quite a while (tried Dr. Marshall's protocol with terrible

results).

I am very interested to hear more about your juice fasting - you do 30

day juice fasts? That is amazing!! What benefits have you seen? Do you

have RA?

Thanks,

Mellanie Henschel wrote:

>Hey guys,

>

>Has anyone tried juice fasting? I tried it in January for 1 week. It

>was very difficult, by the way, to not eat. I just started a second

>fast last night. I live on fresh vegetable and fruit juices, herbal

>teas, water, and when I get hungry I drink a little vanilla soy chai tea

>by Bolthouse Farms. The protein helps fool my tummy into believing it

>is full. It takes about 3 days for the body to rid itself of food that

>was consumed pre-fast. The next 3 days are pure hell. But, I am told

>that after the first 3 days that hunger pretty much goes away. I know

>my allergies felt so much better during my last fast. Now that I am

>more comfortable with fasting, I have no problem going 30 days. It

>takes at least 2 weeks before cell repair takes place. Please respond

>if you have any experience with this.

>

>Thank you,

>Mel

>

>

>

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Sorry, this is a repeat for Mel; I did not send to the group before...

I have done much fasting, but recommend against 'juice fasting.' I used to fast

often (pre-marriage and pre-antibiotic/NSD) at least 6 days and up to 20 days,

distilled water only.

I was always afraid of juices after one bad experience with 'diet-induced

hypoglycemia.' The dietary ketosis state that we seek happens after day four,

if we eliminate any source of sugar, otherwise we are bouncing back and forth

between the two states; ketosis and glycolysis.

When I was working, I would begin the fasts on thursdays, so that by monday I

would have my energy back and I even ran a 10K after 6 days fasting. Dr. Max

Garten was a good friend of mine, and I can send to you the chapter he wrote on

fasting (his book is entitled " Civilized Diseases and Their Circumvention; " once

a text book at Max Planck Institute). He was about to die from angina in 1936,

but some followers of Bernarr McFadden (Physical Culture magazine and

Atlas sponsor) took Max to see this health guru and Max fasted for 28 days then.

Fasting can be very good for you, and I hope that you continue it to whatever

extent that it works. It is the closest thing to a cure for ankylosing

spondylitis, but nobody is very interested in doing this.

(anybody else interested in the chapter send me an email; no attachments get

through via this mail list).

Health!

rheumatic juice fasting

Hey guys,

Has anyone tried juice fasting? I tried it in January for 1 week. It

was very difficult, by the way, to not eat. I just started a second

fast last night. I live on fresh vegetable and fruit juices, herbal

teas, water, and when I get hungry I drink a little vanilla soy chai tea

by Bolthouse Farms. The protein helps fool my tummy into believing it

is full. It takes about 3 days for the body to rid itself of food that

was consumed pre-fast. The next 3 days are pure hell. But, I am told

that after the first 3 days that hunger pretty much goes away. I know

my allergies felt so much better during my last fast. Now that I am

more comfortable with fasting, I have no problem going 30 days. It

takes at least 2 weeks before cell repair takes place. Please respond

if you have any experience with this.

Thank you,

Mel

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Re: rheumatic juice fasting

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> I am very interested to hear more about your juice fasting - you do 30

> day juice fasts? That is amazing!! What benefits have you seen? Do you

> have RA?

>

Back in 1999, I did Dr. Schulze 30 day cleanse program which

involved a 30 day veggie juice fast and detoxification. The first two weeks

it was nothing but juices. Then you were allowed to add a veggie salad with

olive oil for dinner and a baked potato with no toppings. The program

involved hot herbal baths, enemas and hot and cold showers. Along with the

program I took Thymuplex by Enzymatic Therapy and Essiac which I made.

That's the foundation of any good wellness program.

I did this to put lymphomatoid papulosis in remission for the second time.

It worked! At the end of the 30 day program, for good measure, I added Dr.

Hulda 's zapper (made by my husband) and later Bob Beck's silver

pulser, magnetic pulser and colloidal silver.

Ethel

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Is this the same Dr. Bernarr who posts to the Paleofood list?

~T

>

> From: " JMerch "

> but some followers of Bernarr McFadden (Physical Culture magazine and

Atlas sponsor) took Max to see this health guru and Max fasted for 28 days then.

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Thank you for your responses everyone. I am on day 4 this time around.

I have no allergy symptoms, and I experience sudden bursts of energy so

far. I am soooo wanting to eat though. I think it gets easier after a

couple more days. I have had RA since 1990. I have been on AP since

January 2001.

Let me tell you folks, this is no picnic. There are some nasty side

effects of juice fasting in the first week. I am actually embarrassed

to even tell you. So just do some research before embarking on your

own.

I have cold sweats, fevers, yucky tongue, bad breath, gas, diarrhea, and

my left eye keeps getting bloodshot. Also occasional sore throat that

comes and goes as it pleases. I think this is the elimination phase.

It's an attractive picture I have painted isn't it.

My joints still hurt, but less so today. I think I will keep on the

fast for 30 days, but who knows. There are signs that one has to look

for which indicate the fast should be broken. Until then.....it's all

juice, green drink, tea, and water for me. BTW, I am being monitored by

a Natural Healing doctor during this process. So, I am taking

precautions as necessary to make sure that I am doing this the right

way.

I will let you know how things progress. If anyone has done this, can

you tell me if the hunger ever dissipates? Please.

Truly,

Mel

Re: rheumatic juice fasting

Re: rheumatic juice fasting

>

> I am very interested to hear more about your juice fasting - you do 30

> day juice fasts? That is amazing!! What benefits have you seen? Do you

> have RA?

>

Back in 1999, I did Dr. Schulze 30 day cleanse program which

involved a 30 day veggie juice fast and detoxification. The first two

weeks

it was nothing but juices. Then you were allowed to add a veggie salad

with

olive oil for dinner and a baked potato with no toppings. The program

involved hot herbal baths, enemas and hot and cold showers. Along with

the

program I took Thymuplex by Enzymatic Therapy and Essiac which I made.

That's the foundation of any good wellness program.

I did this to put lymphomatoid papulosis in remission for the second

time.

It worked! At the end of the 30 day program, for good measure, I added

Dr.

Hulda 's zapper (made by my husband) and later Bob Beck's silver

pulser, magnetic pulser and colloidal silver.

Ethel

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Juice fasting is a type of detox method. It involves the short-term intake of raw vegetable and fruit juices only. Proponents of juice fasting use juices because they are rich in vitamins and antioxidants. Juice fasting is considered an extreme form of detoxification. More gentle detox methods are less restrictive and include a variety of foods, such as the detox diet. Who shouldn't try juice fasting It is important to consult a qualified health professional before trying a juice fast. Pregnant or nursing women and children should not try a juice fast. People with diabetes, low blood sugar, eating disorders, kidney disease, liver

disease, malnutrition, addictions, underweight, anemia, impaired immune function, gout, asthma, infection, nutritional deficiency, low blood pressure, ulcerative colitis, cancer, terminal illness, epilepsy, or other chronic conditions should only fast under strict medical supervision. People should not try juice fasts before or after surgical procedures. Fasting can reduce blood proteins and change the way prescription drugs react in the body. Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been

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Hi Rita,

 

I posted the folowing a week or so ago in response to a similar question:

 

I did a 30 day juice fast last July.  During the fast I began my day with about

1 cup or so of Breuss' juice.  The rest of the day I had water or green tea. 

For dinner I would juice broccoli, red cabbage, cucumber, celery and a green

apple.  Fresh veggie juice is a little earthy so to a tall glass of this fresh

juice I would add an organic version of V-8, about 2 inches in the glass, some

horse radish, cayenne, worstershire and lemon, to make it taste like a Bloody

.  I continued taking all my supplements during the fast.  I normally eat

flax oil with cottage cheese, but during the fast would just take the flax oil

alone.  I had a CT scan after the fast.  I have been battling a recurrence of

Hodgkin's lumphoma, I had stage 4B in 2001, was diagnosed again in Sept. 2006

with Stage 2.  I had enlarged nodes in the right and left sides of my pelvic

area.  This time I decides no conventional treatment as it oviously doesn't

work.  At the end

of the fast, and after about 8 months on Bill 's protocol plus many

other supplements added, but had not started on LDN yet, the CT scan showed all

but one node on the left side gone.

 

Here is a wonderful web-site that got me motivated to do it, and Breuss' juice

is mentioned:

 

http://www.fasting.ws/fasting/cancer-fasting.html

 

If anyone is interested in my protocol, send me an email and I'll answer you

off-line. 

 

Best,

Debbie

From: Rita Dei <ritadei81@...>

Subject: [ ] Juice fasting

Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:12 AM

Hi,

 

Has anyone tried the breuss juice fast to treat an advanced form of cancer.

Can you eat a small amount of food if you are struggling or will it affect the

treatment.

 

Thanks.

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Hi all,

Does anyone know where there is good information on how to do a long juice fast.

Do you need to do enemas or take a laxative or do a saltwater flush?  Does

anyone know?

Thanks,  robyn

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hi Robyn,

I remember coming across some information that enemas are very

beneficial when juice fasting. I'm not sure about the lenght of the

juice fast...but I've read about 92-days juice feasts/fasts...however,

i don't know if this would be also recommended for people with cancer.

maybe here's a link offering some guidelines that could be of help

 http://www.drfostersessentials.com/store/juicing.php

all the best

Tami

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