Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 Boris, I have a story similar to yours. A friend of my husband's had recurring stones, and he knew that I was into natural medicine, so he asked my husband if there was anything that I could suggest to him. This is the formula that he used: bring 4 cups of water to a boil and add 2 tbsp. of chopped, fresh or cut dried burdock root. Reduce to simmer for about 10 minutes, covered. After which, remove from heat and add 3 tsp. chopped or cut fresh or dried catnip. Let steep for 1-1/2 hours. Then strain and to each cup add 1 tsp. lemon juice and 1/2 tsp. pure maple syrup or blackstrap molasses to sweeten. Drink slowly. Exactly 10 minutes later, take orally 1 tblsp. of pure virgin olive oil. Repeat this regiment 3 times each day. The tea soothes irritated tissues and helps to break up or partially dissolve the stones, while the oil acts as a lubricant to remove them from the body more easily. It's very important that no greasy, fried foods, soft drinks, refined carbohydrates like white flour or white sugar products or red meat and poultry be consumed during this treatment: otherwise, absolute and complete success cannot be fully guaranteed. After taking the last cup of tea and spoonful of oil at night just before retiring, be sure to sleep on your right side with a pillow underneath your armpit. This resting posture, some claim, seems to expedite the removal of stones from the body more quickly. The only thing that you didn't do that I suggested was that he have the stones analyzed and the doctor did, so that he would know what kind of stones they were. The doctor also wanted to know where he got the information that I gave him, and admitted that it was all true. When he knew the type of stones they were, then he knew what foods to avoid, and supplements to take. I am happy to say that was 2-3 years ago and he hasn't had a problem since then. Dottie ----- Original Message ----- From: <hyperspeed@...> <gallstonesonelist> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:08 PM Subject: Finally got them out > From: hyperspeed@... > > I am a 23 year old guy that recently spent two days > hospitalized because my pain in the liver area had > gotten worse and I allso often woke up dizzy and in > pain in the mornings. I have allso constantly during > the past 5 months had back and neckpain and a very strange pain > in my right arm. My mother found a recipe in some > old natural medicine book for gallstone flushing and > I immidiately said I did not want to try it and > that I don't belive in that kind of natural medicine > stuff. Surfing the web some day later I found this > recipe with olive oil and lemon juice so I decided > to try it but since we don't have Epsom salts here > in Sweden I used fresh apple juice instead. > I drank the olive oil/lemon juice the night before I > went to the hospital and thought that if any stones > will come out I want the doctor to take a look at them. > The next day when I was in the hospital I went to the > bathroom in the morning but there were no stones in the stool > so my immidiate reaction was that it didn't work and I > thought that I did not have any stones and that > the method must be some kind of hoax. In the evening > when I was lying in the hospital bed I felt some pressure and > pain from the lower art of my stomach so I went to the toilet > and I was shocked when I saw my stool, there was about 200 > stones in my stool, all floating at the surface of the water. > My first reaction was to ask the nurse to come in and take a look > but I realised it would have been rather sick to ask someone to > look at your stool so I took a plastic cup and collected about 15 > stones from the stool, the largest stone was about 2.5 cm in size. > The next morning when the doctors had their morning round and > they came in to my room I showed them the stones and immidiately > one of them(who was a professor in medicine) said that it was > impossible so I got rather upset and asked them to send the stones > to their lab for an analyzis and they said I was rediculous and > the professor said ironically to me that it was a medical sensation > and that maybe I should call the press, at that point I was very upset > and told him that with that attitude maybe he shouldn't be practising > medicine. They left my room after deciding to give me a ct-scan > and a coloscopy. Later during the day one of the doctors that had > been in my room that morning came up to me and said that they had agreed > to send the stones for analyzis. During that day I had the ct-scan > and the coloscopy without any results so I was released from the hospital > and am now waiting for a letter from the hospital about the > stone-analyzis. It will be very interesting to see what their next > move will be in my case, if they will ignore me after sending me the > results from the stone-analyzis or if they will follow my case up and > make some changes in their system. > I am now waiting one more week to do my second flush because I still > have some back-pain and pain from the liver area, but my pains are nothing > compared to what they used to be before the first flush. > I am spreading the word about this to my friends and relatives and now > everybody want to try this flushing thing, I really hope that finally > there will be a mass of people that have done this flush and that can put > some pressure on the hospital buroucracy to make some changes in their > narrow-minded system. > > Best reguards Boris > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What was YOUR favorite part?! > > Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > > > List Archives: > /archives.cgi/gallstones > > Web Sites: > http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones.html > http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 At 10:08 23.05.99 -0400, you wrote: >From: hyperspeed@... > <snip> > since we don't have Epsom salts here in Sweden <snip> > >Best reguards Boris Hello Borris, Your story is very interesting. Go to the Pharmacy, and ask for " Magnesium Suphate " , MgSO4. It is sold in boxes of 1Kg, and it cost ca.100Kr. Every Pharmacy should have it, or can order it. That is Epsom Salt. Don't tell them what are you going to use it for. It may happen that they will not want to sell it to you. I have had that kind of experience in Norway. Tell them that you will use it for bathing :-) Use it for your next flushes, you will get more stones out, and you will not feel anything. _________________________ Would you like to share your story with the rest of the world ? Some of the mebers of this group have decided to put their stories on the web, and already few thousands of people have read those stories. It is here, officiel site of this e-mail community: http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ If you agree, I will transform your e-mail message into web page, and place it in this web. If you want to stay anonymous, I can change your name and remove your E-mail. _______________________________ About doctors: Do not expect to much! I have had the same reaction, after shoving them gallstones taken out by flashing, they have tried to ridicule me, they have tried to say that it is only coagulated olive oil, and many other stupid excuses, just not to accept the truth. They were just not intersted. Those were the doctors that perform few gallbladder surgeries every day. I guess, it is a part of profession. 95% of doctors are violently opposed to alternative medicine, even when it is self evident that it workes far better then what they are practising. Other 5% are practising alternative medicine, and are violently attacked by their collegues. " All truth goes through three stages: First it is ridiculed, Then it is violently opposed, Finally it is accepted as self evident. " Schopenhauer. If you want, please take a copy of the stories published on our site: http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ and give it to your docs. They may accept it easier, after seeing that you are not the only person in the world. Read also FAQ, to prepare yourself for the " special questions " (read " stupid questions " ) of your docs. Keep us informed ! Where do you live in Sweden ? Best of heath, Dusan Stojkovic Norway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 Ole, Now, this was a couple of years ago, and I believe he said that he did it for one day. He has changed his diet after that and takes a supplement of magnesium+B6. Dottie ----- Original Message ----- From: Ole Blente <blente@...> <gallstonesonelist> Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Finally got them out > From: blente@... (Ole Blente) > > > Boris, > > I have a story similar to yours. A friend of my husband's had recurring > > stones, and he knew that I was into natural medicine, so he asked my husband > > if there was anything that I could suggest to him. > > This is the formula that he used: bring 4 cups of water to a boil and add 2 > > tbsp. of chopped, fresh or cut dried burdock root. Reduce to simmer for > > about 10 minutes, covered. After which, remove from heat and add 3 tsp. > > chopped or cut fresh or dried catnip. Let steep for 1-1/2 hours. Then strain > > and to each cup add 1 tsp. lemon juice and 1/2 tsp. pure maple syrup or > > blackstrap molasses to sweeten. Drink slowly. Exactly 10 minutes later, take > > orally 1 tblsp. of pure virgin olive oil. Repeat this regiment 3 times each > > day. The tea soothes irritated tissues and helps to break up or partially > > dissolve the stones, while the oil acts as a lubricant to remove them from > > the body more easily. It's very important that no greasy, fried foods, soft > > drinks, refined carbohydrates like white flour or white sugar products or > > red meat and poultry be consumed during this treatment: otherwise, absolute > > and complete success cannot be fully guaranteed. After taking the last cup > > of tea and spoonful of oil at night just before retiring, be sure to sleep > > on your right side with a pillow underneath your armpit. This resting > > posture, some claim, seems to expedite the removal of stones from the body > > more quickly. > > The only thing that you didn't do that I suggested was that he have the > > stones analyzed and the doctor did, so that he would know what kind of > > stones they were. The doctor also wanted to know where he got the > > information that I gave him, and admitted that it was all true. When he knew > > the type of stones they were, then he knew what foods to avoid, and > > supplements to take. > > I am happy to say that was 2-3 years ago and he hasn't had a problem since > > then. > > Dottie > > This is an interesting cure. For how many days do you continue? > > Ole > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It's finally here! What's your opinion? > > Create a Star Wars discussion group at ONElist. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > > > List Archives: > /archives.cgi/gallstones > > Web Sites: > http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones.html > http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 > Boris, > I have a story similar to yours. A friend of my husband's had recurring > stones, and he knew that I was into natural medicine, so he asked my husband > if there was anything that I could suggest to him. > This is the formula that he used: bring 4 cups of water to a boil and add 2 > tbsp. of chopped, fresh or cut dried burdock root. Reduce to simmer for > about 10 minutes, covered. After which, remove from heat and add 3 tsp. > chopped or cut fresh or dried catnip. Let steep for 1-1/2 hours. Then strain > and to each cup add 1 tsp. lemon juice and 1/2 tsp. pure maple syrup or > blackstrap molasses to sweeten. Drink slowly. Exactly 10 minutes later, take > orally 1 tblsp. of pure virgin olive oil. Repeat this regiment 3 times each > day. The tea soothes irritated tissues and helps to break up or partially > dissolve the stones, while the oil acts as a lubricant to remove them from > the body more easily. It's very important that no greasy, fried foods, soft > drinks, refined carbohydrates like white flour or white sugar products or > red meat and poultry be consumed during this treatment: otherwise, absolute > and complete success cannot be fully guaranteed. After taking the last cup > of tea and spoonful of oil at night just before retiring, be sure to sleep > on your right side with a pillow underneath your armpit. This resting > posture, some claim, seems to expedite the removal of stones from the body > more quickly. > The only thing that you didn't do that I suggested was that he have the > stones analyzed and the doctor did, so that he would know what kind of > stones they were. The doctor also wanted to know where he got the > information that I gave him, and admitted that it was all true. When he knew > the type of stones they were, then he knew what foods to avoid, and > supplements to take. > I am happy to say that was 2-3 years ago and he hasn't had a problem since > then. > Dottie This is an interesting cure. For how many days do you continue? Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 Your story is very impressing. I think you have acted klever, allthough, as Dusan says: One shouldn´t expect too much from the MDs. Må bra! Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 1999 Report Share Posted May 24, 1999 I have read this email about the gallstone cleanse formula and this sounds like one of easiest methods but I have a question. I know that we all eat the incorrect foods and thereby create problems for our systems, but if there is no pain to indicate gallstones can this treatment still be done? Also having read many of the comments on various emails enemas seem very popular. What benefit do they give if done regularly? I attend a naturapath every 6 weeks for a colonic as part of a maintenance program, but must state that my eating regime is not as desired but am trying to follow the ER4YT program Type A blood group. Sweet cravings are my down fall. So is the consumption of alcohol. But generally in good health. Any recommendations. Jessie Carl /Dottie Wolgang wrote: > From: " Carl /Dottie Wolgang " <tapakey@...> > > Boris, > I have a story similar to yours. A friend of my husband's had recurring > stones, and he knew that I was into natural medicine, so he asked my husband > if there was anything that I could suggest to him. > This is the formula that he used: bring 4 cups of water to a boil and add 2 > tbsp. of chopped, fresh or cut dried burdock root. Reduce to simmer for > about 10 minutes, covered. After which, remove from heat and add 3 tsp. > chopped or cut fresh or dried catnip. Let steep for 1-1/2 hours. Then strain > and to each cup add 1 tsp. lemon juice and 1/2 tsp. pure maple syrup or > blackstrap molasses to sweeten. Drink slowly. Exactly 10 minutes later, take > orally 1 tblsp. of pure virgin olive oil. Repeat this regiment 3 times each > day. The tea soothes irritated tissues and helps to break up or partially > dissolve the stones, while the oil acts as a lubricant to remove them from > the body more easily. It's very important that no greasy, fried foods, soft > drinks, refined carbohydrates like white flour or white sugar products or > red meat and poultry be consumed during this treatment: otherwise, absolute > and complete success cannot be fully guaranteed. After taking the last cup > of tea and spoonful of oil at night just before retiring, be sure to sleep > on your right side with a pillow underneath your armpit. This resting > posture, some claim, seems to expedite the removal of stones from the body > more quickly. > The only thing that you didn't do that I suggested was that he have the > stones analyzed and the doctor did, so that he would know what kind of > stones they were. The doctor also wanted to know where he got the > information that I gave him, and admitted that it was all true. When he knew > the type of stones they were, then he knew what foods to avoid, and > supplements to take. > I am happy to say that was 2-3 years ago and he hasn't had a problem since > then. > Dottie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <hyperspeed@...> > <gallstonesonelist> > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:08 PM > Subject: Finally got them out > > > From: hyperspeed@... > > > > I am a 23 year old guy that recently spent two days > > hospitalized because my pain in the liver area had > > gotten worse and I allso often woke up dizzy and in > > pain in the mornings. I have allso constantly during > > the past 5 months had back and neckpain and a very strange pain > > in my right arm. My mother found a recipe in some > > old natural medicine book for gallstone flushing and > > I immidiately said I did not want to try it and > > that I don't belive in that kind of natural medicine > > stuff. Surfing the web some day later I found this > > recipe with olive oil and lemon juice so I decided > > to try it but since we don't have Epsom salts here > > in Sweden I used fresh apple juice instead. > > I drank the olive oil/lemon juice the night before I > > went to the hospital and thought that if any stones > > will come out I want the doctor to take a look at them. > > The next day when I was in the hospital I went to the > > bathroom in the morning but there were no stones in the stool > > so my immidiate reaction was that it didn't work and I > > thought that I did not have any stones and that > > the method must be some kind of hoax. In the evening > > when I was lying in the hospital bed I felt some pressure and > > pain from the lower art of my stomach so I went to the toilet > > and I was shocked when I saw my stool, there was about 200 > > stones in my stool, all floating at the surface of the water. > > My first reaction was to ask the nurse to come in and take a look > > but I realised it would have been rather sick to ask someone to > > look at your stool so I took a plastic cup and collected about 15 > > stones from the stool, the largest stone was about 2.5 cm in size. > > The next morning when the doctors had their morning round and > > they came in to my room I showed them the stones and immidiately > > one of them(who was a professor in medicine) said that it was > > impossible so I got rather upset and asked them to send the stones > > to their lab for an analyzis and they said I was rediculous and > > the professor said ironically to me that it was a medical sensation > > and that maybe I should call the press, at that point I was very upset > > and told him that with that attitude maybe he shouldn't be practising > > medicine. They left my room after deciding to give me a ct-scan > > and a coloscopy. Later during the day one of the doctors that had > > been in my room that morning came up to me and said that they had agreed > > to send the stones for analyzis. During that day I had the ct-scan > > and the coloscopy without any results so I was released from the hospital > > and am now waiting for a letter from the hospital about the > > stone-analyzis. It will be very interesting to see what their next > > move will be in my case, if they will ignore me after sending me the > > results from the stone-analyzis or if they will follow my case up and > > make some changes in their system. > > I am now waiting one more week to do my second flush because I still > > have some back-pain and pain from the liver area, but my pains are nothing > > compared to what they used to be before the first flush. > > I am spreading the word about this to my friends and relatives and now > > everybody want to try this flushing thing, I really hope that finally > > there will be a mass of people that have done this flush and that can put > > some pressure on the hospital buroucracy to make some changes in their > > narrow-minded system. > > > > Best reguards Boris > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > What was YOUR favorite part?! > > > > Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself! > > > > > > List Archives: > > /archives.cgi/gallstones > > > > Web Sites: > > http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ > > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones.html > > http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ > > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It's finally here! What's your opinion? > > Create a Star Wars discussion group at ONElist. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > > List Archives: > /archives.cgi/gallstones > > Web Sites: > http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones.html > http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 1999 Report Share Posted May 27, 1999 Hello everyone, thank you all for the nice replies,tips and information. Today I finally got the analysis letter from the hospital and this is what the letter says: " The stones that you showed are not typical gallstones. All analysis show that they are made of some kind of fat with a high melting-point. These can not have been formed/ expelled from any of the organs inside the body. For further information contact the hospital/doctor " Well that was really sad news and I think this most reminds me of some movie where somebody if trying to prove a fact and have nowhere to turn for help. I have decided to take make everything possible to prove the fact that the stones come from the liver and I am willing to go as far as it takes. My primary idea is to print out the contents of the " flushing website " and send it to the doctor, with the facts presented as scientifically as possible. I think that only giving them the url of the website would make it more easy for them to ignore me, but if they get paper-documents they will see that I have have bothered to present it to them in a written, paperform and they will read it.I will allso try to make them do a cholesterol analysis of the stones and allso bile analysis. If they refuse I will complain to a higher hospital instance. I would like to ask Dusan Stojkovic for permission to print out the contents of the website, I will of course refer to the website as the source of the papers. And if anyone on this list have any good ideas/tips of how I could handle this thing and present it to the doctor as scientifically as possible I would be most greatful for any input. Best reguards Boris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 1999 Report Share Posted May 27, 1999 At 15:13 27.05.99 -0000, you wrote: >From: hyperspeed@... > > >Hello everyone, thank you all for the nice replies,tips and information. >Today I finally got the analysis letter from >the hospital and this is what the letter says: > > " The stones that you showed are not typical >gallstones. All analysis show that they are >made of some kind of fat with a high melting-point. These can not have been formed/ expelled from any of the organs inside the body. >For further information contact the hospital/doctor " This made me laugh! He is actually trying to say that you are not telling truth. :-) " Boris, Boris, why did you try to lie to your doctor ? " " Tell us the truth, where did you get those stones from ? " :-) " We know these are not gallstones, you have been a bad boy! " :-) You should ask them exactly what kind of fat it is ? Also , ask them , what is the chemical differents between your stones and stones that are removed by surgery. Can they give you list of chemical compounds that your stones are made up, and list of chemical compounds that other (surgery) gallstones are made up. And why are they so sure it is not from internal organs ? Could it be cholesterol ? >Well that was really sad news and I think this >most reminds me of some movie where somebody >if trying to prove a fact and have nowhere to turn for help. Now, after they have tried to say that you are wrong, odds are , they will not easily change their mind. >I have decided to take make everything possible >to prove the fact that the stones come from the liver and I am willing to go as far as it takes. My primary idea is to print out the contents of the " flushing website " and send it to the doctor, >with the facts presented as scientifically as possible. I think that only giving them the url of the website would make it more easy for them to ignore me, but if they get paper-documents they >will see that I have have bothered to present it to them in a written, paperform and they will read it.I will allso try to make them do a cholesterol analysis of the stones and allso bile analysis. If they refuse I will complain to a >higher hospital instance. >I would like to ask Dusan Stojkovic for permission >to print out the contents of the website, I will >of course refer to the website as the source of >the papers. It goes without saying that anyone can take a print from that web site, for non commercial purposes. Everyone who have agreed to have his story on the web knows that people are gong to print it. That is why it is there. For people to read. > And if anyone on this list have any good ideas/tips of how I could handle this thing and present it to the doctor as scientifically as possible I would be most greatful for any input. > > >Best reguards Boris. Just a little help: Doctor says: These are not gallstones, this is coagulated olive oil. Boris answers OK, lets say it is true. But, explain me this: after people repeate flush several times, gallstones stop coming out, no matter how much olive oil you drink ? Doctor says Gallstones are created inside gallbladder, not inside liver. There is no place inside gallbladder for 200 stones. Boris answers If that is the true, Why do people without gallbladder, who did flush, get a plenty of stones ? Doctor says These are not gallstones, we don't know what it is. Boris answers If that is the true, Why do people who do gallstones flush , and then ultrasound, suddenly dont have gallstones inside gallbladder, even though previous ultrasound have shown gallstones ? And How to explain that after few flushes all the symptoms of gallstones inside gallbladder disappear ? Doctor says If that is the way to get gallstones out, how happen that nobody in the medical community knows about this? Boris answers You yourself haven't shoven much of the interest to learn more about this. Why ? Dusan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 1999 Report Share Posted June 19, 1999 Dusan..okay before I get too confused on this, I went to the health food store and the nurse (RN!) gave me Acid-A-Cal acid forming vitamins and minerals to take and said to do the olive oil and lemon juice thing and that that would take care of the stones. She said that and an accupunturist worked for her.The supplements contain Ca/cl, ca/ph,mg glycerophosphate,vit. c, vit b6, betaine hcl, ammonium chloride, kidney extract and citrus bioflavonoids. Think that will work? I am a nursing mother. I have not had an attack, just uncomfortable feeling--tight, itchy. Thanks...sisAt 10:36 PM 6/18/99 -0300, you wrote: >From: " maria goretti " <mgfbrito@...> > > >-----Mensagem original----- >De: Dusan Stojkovic <dusan@...> >Para: gallstonesonelist <gallstonesonelist> >Data: Domingo, 23 de Maio de 1999 18:36 >Assunto: Re: Finally got them out > > >>From: Dusan Stojkovic <dusan@...> >> >>At 10:08 23.05.99 -0400, you wrote: >>>From: hyperspeed@... >>> >><snip> >>> since we don't have Epsom salts here in Sweden >><snip> >>> >>>Best reguards Boris >>hi, Boris: > > >My husband is a doctor and also does not believe in natural medicine. This >is such a pity because he does not open his mind for anything but (being a >surgeon) in what he sees after opening up a person during surgical >procedures. > >I myself wat to try the gallstone flush, but here in Brazil we do not have >the flaxseed oil. > >COuld you send me your recipe? > >Thanks. > > > >> >> >> >> >> >>Hello Borris, >> >>Your story is very interesting. >>Go to the Pharmacy, and ask for " Magnesium Suphate " , MgSO4. It is sold in >>boxes of 1Kg, and it cost ca.100Kr. >>Every Pharmacy should have it, or can order it. >>That is Epsom Salt. >> >>Don't tell them what are you going to use it for. It may happen that they >>will not want to sell it to you. >> >>I have had that kind of experience in Norway. >> >>Tell them that you will use it for bathing :-) >> >> >>Use it for your next flushes, you will get more stones out, and you will >>not feel anything. >> >>_________________________ >> >> >> >> >>Would you like to share your story with the rest of the world ? >> >> >>Some of the mebers of this group have decided to put their stories on the >>web, and already few thousands of people have read those stories. >> >> >>It is here, officiel site of this e-mail community: >>http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >> >> >>If you agree, I will transform your e-mail message into web page, and place >>it in this web. >>If you want to stay anonymous, I can change your name and remove your >E-mail. >> >>_______________________________ >> >> >> >> >>About doctors: >> >>Do not expect to much! >> >> >>I have had the same reaction, after shoving them gallstones taken out by >>flashing, they have tried to ridicule me, they have tried to say that it >>is only coagulated olive oil, and many other stupid excuses, just not to >>accept the truth. >>They were just not intersted. >>Those were the doctors that perform few gallbladder surgeries every day. >> >> >>I guess, it is a part of profession. 95% of doctors are violently opposed >>to alternative medicine, even when it is self evident that it workes far >>better then what they are practising. >> >>Other 5% are practising alternative medicine, and are violently attacked by >>their collegues. >> >> >> >> " All truth goes through three stages: >>First it is ridiculed, >>Then it is violently opposed, >>Finally it is accepted as self evident. " >> Schopenhauer. >> >> >> >>If you want, please take a copy of the stories published on our site: >> http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >>and give it to your docs. >> >>They may accept it easier, after seeing that you are not the only person in >>the world. >> >>Read also FAQ, to prepare yourself for the " special questions " (read >> " stupid questions " ) of your docs. >> >> >>Keep us informed ! >> >>Where do you live in Sweden ? >> >> >> >>Best of heath, >>Dusan Stojkovic >>Norway >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>ONElist: the best source for group communications. >> >>Join a new list today! >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR >yourself! >> >> >>List Archives: >>/archives.cgi/gallstones >> >>Web Sites: >>http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones.html >>http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ >>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? > >At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/gallstones > > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > gallstones-unsubscribeonelist > >To change status from normal to digest: > gallstones-digestonelist > >To change status from digest to normal: > gallstones-normalonelist > > >To subscribe: > gallstones-subscribeonelist > >By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > > >List Archives: >/archives.cgi/gallstones > >Web Sites: >http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > >http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 1999 Report Share Posted June 19, 1999 -----Mensagem original----- De: Dusan Stojkovic <dusan@...> Para: gallstonesonelist <gallstonesonelist> Data: Domingo, 23 de Maio de 1999 18:36 Assunto: Re: Finally got them out >From: Dusan Stojkovic <dusan@...> > >At 10:08 23.05.99 -0400, you wrote: >>From: hyperspeed@... >> ><snip> >> since we don't have Epsom salts here in Sweden ><snip> >> >>Best reguards Boris >hi, Boris: My husband is a doctor and also does not believe in natural medicine. This is such a pity because he does not open his mind for anything but (being a surgeon) in what he sees after opening up a person during surgical procedures. I myself wat to try the gallstone flush, but here in Brazil we do not have the flaxseed oil. COuld you send me your recipe? Thanks. > > > > > >Hello Borris, > >Your story is very interesting. >Go to the Pharmacy, and ask for " Magnesium Suphate " , MgSO4. It is sold in >boxes of 1Kg, and it cost ca.100Kr. >Every Pharmacy should have it, or can order it. >That is Epsom Salt. > >Don't tell them what are you going to use it for. It may happen that they >will not want to sell it to you. > >I have had that kind of experience in Norway. > >Tell them that you will use it for bathing :-) > > >Use it for your next flushes, you will get more stones out, and you will >not feel anything. > >_________________________ > > > > >Would you like to share your story with the rest of the world ? > > >Some of the mebers of this group have decided to put their stories on the >web, and already few thousands of people have read those stories. > > >It is here, officiel site of this e-mail community: >http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ > > >If you agree, I will transform your e-mail message into web page, and place >it in this web. >If you want to stay anonymous, I can change your name and remove your E-mail. > >_______________________________ > > > > >About doctors: > >Do not expect to much! > > >I have had the same reaction, after shoving them gallstones taken out by >flashing, they have tried to ridicule me, they have tried to say that it >is only coagulated olive oil, and many other stupid excuses, just not to >accept the truth. >They were just not intersted. >Those were the doctors that perform few gallbladder surgeries every day. > > >I guess, it is a part of profession. 95% of doctors are violently opposed >to alternative medicine, even when it is self evident that it workes far >better then what they are practising. > >Other 5% are practising alternative medicine, and are violently attacked by >their collegues. > > > > " All truth goes through three stages: >First it is ridiculed, >Then it is violently opposed, >Finally it is accepted as self evident. " > Schopenhauer. > > > >If you want, please take a copy of the stories published on our site: > http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >and give it to your docs. > >They may accept it easier, after seeing that you are not the only person in >the world. > >Read also FAQ, to prepare yourself for the " special questions " (read > " stupid questions " ) of your docs. > > >Keep us informed ! > >Where do you live in Sweden ? > > > >Best of heath, >Dusan Stojkovic >Norway > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: the best source for group communications. > >Join a new list today! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > > >List Archives: >/archives.cgi/gallstones > >Web Sites: >http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones.html >http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 1999 Report Share Posted June 21, 1999 " All truth goes through three stages: First it is ridiculed, Then it is violently opposed, Finally it is accepted as self evident. " Schopenhauer. Hi: Thanks for all the info you sent me. Especially for Schopenhauer's incredible thoughts about the truth. I will be preparing myself first with the parasites cleasing than with the gallstones later on. Surely will share results with you. Bye , lbye >>> >>> >>>If you want, please take a copy of the stories published on our site: >>> http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >>>and give it to your docs. >>> >>>They may accept it easier, after seeing that you are not the only person in >>>the world. >>> >>>Read also FAQ, to prepare yourself for the " special questions " (read >>> " stupid questions " ) of your docs. >>> >>> >>>Keep us informed ! >>> >>>Where do you live in Sweden ? >>> >>> >>> >>>Best of heath, >>>Dusan Stojkovic >>>Norway >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>ONElist: the best source for group communications. >>> >>>Join a new list today! >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR >>yourself! >>> >>> >>>List Archives: >>>/archives.cgi/gallstones >>> >>>Web Sites: >>>http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >>>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones.html >>>http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ >>>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Where do some of the Internet's largest email lists reside? >> >>At ONElist - the most scalable and reliable service on the Internet. >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/gallstones >> >> >>Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: >> >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : >> >> gallstones-unsubscribeonelist >> >>To change status from normal to digest: >> gallstones-digestonelist >> >>To change status from digest to normal: >> gallstones-normalonelist >> >> >>To subscribe: >> gallstones-subscribeonelist >> >>By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR >yourself! >> >> >>List Archives: >>/archives.cgi/gallstones >> >>Web Sites: >>http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ >> >>http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ >>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Last chance to earn $5000 for your charity of choice! > >Deadline for " GROW TO GIVE " is June 19. See homepage for details. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/gallstones > > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > gallstones-unsubscribeonelist > >To change status from normal to digest: > gallstones-digestonelist > >To change status from digest to normal: > gallstones-normalonelist > > >To subscribe: > gallstones-subscribeonelist > >By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > > >List Archives: >/archives.cgi/gallstones > >Web Sites: >http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > >http://www.geocities.com/~dusan_s/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/flaxseed_oil.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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