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In a message dated 10/6/2004 6:44:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

lisak70@... writes:

In my case, I always bring a picture I.D. In the 12 years I've used guide

dogs,

maybe i'll just bring a letter i have from my doc saying my dog is a working

dog. It was dated a while ago, she even DESCRIBED Tanner to the T in the

letter! (hair color, how tall, how many pound, etc etc) and I think she " went

too far " LOL That letter, never had showed it to anyone.

My reason for NOT vesting my dog, is obvious, personal safety. I don't want

to be " marked " .

Lee

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Lee,

Yes it is a violation. But may IO offer another view on this? It

is the very fact that the ADA is so ambiguous that causes those of us

using legitimate service animals so much grief. Why? Because now

every Tom Dick and Harry can claim they have a service animal. What

to do about it? Well, those of us using guide dogs are already

plainly visible since the dog uses a special harness.

Apparently the clinic has been experiencing these bogus service

animals which probably have been ill mannered, or poorly house broken,

or both, who nose.

I leave it up to you how to proceed.

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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.

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& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

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Lee,

I could be wrong but this is what I *think* -- Without an I.D. card *or*

an orange leash or vest which identifies your dog as a hearing dog, a public

establishment may have the right to refuse you admittance. It would be no

different than me walking into my opthalmologist's office with Tigger minus

her harness and claiming that she's a guide dog. Yes, I'm blind and Tigger

is a guide dog but without the harness and proper identification, they don't

know that. After all, I could have picked up any dog on the street and

brought it into the office with me.

I know that sounds absurd but this may be part of the reason why some

businesses are so strict. Another problem is the fact that any Tom, Dick or

Harry could bring in a dog claiming that it's a service animal who helps

relieve depression, etc. You may want to check ADA guidelines for rules

pertaining to this and send that in an e-mail to your audi.

In my case, I always bring a picture I.D. In the 12 years I've used guide

dogs, I've never been asked to show it. However, to avoid any potential

problems with access, I carry it with me anyways because I know the one time

I don't, someone will ask to see it. <grin>

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You wrote:

>> Because now every Tom Dick and Harry can claim they have a service

animal.<<

You and I must be on the same wavelength this evening. It must be the

mocha... LOL!

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This is SO SO SO scary! When I was reading yopur post to Lee, I

was thinking this too! " We must be on the same wavelength. "

(wants another mocha!)

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" My greatest fear in life is that no-one will remember me after I'm

dead. "

--Some dead guy

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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It's scary but I'm enjoying every minute of it. (So *this* is how you live!

<grin>) I think I'll have another mocha myself.

Who knows? Maybe tomorrow we'll be writing duplicate posts. That, or suffer

from an identity crisis. LOL!

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You may get a few (very few) people who may take advantage of the situation

If the their so-call service dog is not behaving, the owner do have the

right to kick them out.

This is the protection for people who do have service dog who need them. I

know many people who have hearing dog take their dog everywhere.

As the law is now, They don't have to have a certificate nor orange vest on

the dog. until the law is change, They should accept the owner word for it.

I don't believe that they should have a certificate as I know many people

who trained their own dog and they do very well. But I think a vest would

be appropriate as it shows people that they are working.

-- Re: HEARING DOGGIE HELP

Lee,

Yes it is a violation. But may IO offer another view on this? It

is the very fact that the ADA is so ambiguous that causes those of us

using legitimate service animals so much grief. Why? Because now

every Tom Dick and Harry can claim they have a service animal. What

to do about it? Well, those of us using guide dogs are already

plainly visible since the dog uses a special harness.

Apparently the clinic has been experiencing these bogus service

animals which probably have been ill mannered, or poorly house broken,

or both, who nose.

I leave it up to you how to proceed.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.

--

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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>>My reason for NOT vesting my dog, is obvious, personal safety. I don't

want to be " marked " .<<

Lee,

This is a valid concern and something I didn't even think about. Bringing a

letter from your doctor is a good idea. That way you'd have some

identification *if* it's requested.

Now watch. You'll bring the letter and no one will ask you for it. I hope

that's the case!! <smile>

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>> But I think a vest would be appropriate as it shows people that they are

working.<<

This would also help differentiate between a legitimately trained service

animal and a pet. Without *some* form of visual identification (whether it's

an I.D. card, leash, vest, cape, harness, etc.) it becomes impossible to

make this distinction.

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, Lee, Dave,

I am one who will not " comply " with requests that are not

legitimate. Omn the other hand, anyone can take their pets anyplace

and claim its a working animal. Ok, while we as a whole are not

supporting some kind of certification (and there have been many

reasons stated why it would be impossible), I do want to see the

pressure taken off us that IS a result of pseudo service animal users.

But Lee, you not wanting to use a vest for the reason you stated

is vaild. And since the ADA does NOT require the use of such, then

take the letter but dont volunteer it unless you feel the person

asking for it is someone who has a legit concern.

(does that mean I am a wimp? nah, I think I know when to show mu ID.

LOL After I ask to see the person's badge or whatever. And I want it

in large print and braille please.)

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Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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Yeah, that was what I was thinking. and , a perfect match for each

other?? Are we expected to hear wedding bells sometime in the near future?

<wink>

<rlclark77@...> wrote:

,

This is SO SO SO scary! When I was reading yopur post to Lee, I

was thinking this too! " We must be on the same wavelength. "

(wants another mocha!)

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

" My greatest fear in life is that no-one will remember me after I'm

dead. "

--Some dead guy

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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Yeah, that was what I was thinking. and , a perfect match for

each other?? Are we expected to hear wedding bells sometime in the near

future?

<wink>

,

LOL! Wouldn't that be nice? Just think... and I could invite everyone

from to our wedding and reception. Only problem is I think 's

already spoken for. If he's not, I am. <grin>

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But , its obvious who the Beauty is and of course I aint no

scrungy Beast.

And who is " planning " ? I wake up to this, I should go back to

bed. I think we have some folk who think they hear " bells " . Truth be

told, I do too. (snickers) I just got a nice glass bell off eBay.

(raises eyebrows at the talk going round this list) Spoken are you

? Tigger is one lucky dawg! And so is Gimlet for that matter.

(now what? go to Plan C?)

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If you think there is good in everybody, you haven't met everybody.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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You're playing hard to get, aren't you? Are you sure that glass bell isn't

an engagement gift for me? (I just hope my boyfriend Jon isn't looking over

my shoulder reading my e-mails...Oops!! " Jon, I can explain... " Oh no.) LOL!

What's plan C? Wait a year before we get hitched? <grin>

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I play hard to get because the winner will be perfect for me. LOL

Now that bell is not the wedding bell, sowwy. Its the Coco Cola bell

and I am keeping it.

I dont know what Plan C is, you dont either? Scrap that one then.

Lessee what else I have.....

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A quarrel is like buttermilk; the more you stir it, the more sour it

grows.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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It *was* fun? You gave up? Well, shucks, I am gonna get me a

mocha so I can hear the echoes. LOL

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" My parents didn't want to move to Florida, but they turned sixty, and

that's the law. "

--Jerry Seinfeld

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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