OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

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Am I being a baby or just having a different reaction than anyone

else? Today is my 10th day post op and I feel like crap. My

shoulder pain had gotten better and now it hurts a lot again. Also,

after eating (still clear liquids by the way), I feel pains in my

back and chest...what is wrong with me? I'm starting to doubt my

decision to have this surgery. Will this go away or am I doomed for

life? I was in so much pain last night...shoulder, chest,

back...that even my face hurts...I know that sounds crazy...but it

did...am I doing something wrong or will I feel like this everytime

I eat for as long as I have the band? I am so frustrated I wish I

had never gone through with this, I thought I'd be fine by now but I

feel crappy!!!!! I thought maybe I had gas, but I can't even

burp...don't know why, I've been good about the liquid diet and

haven't cheated, except I have a small cup of skim milk with a bit

of coffee in the morning, I also added a few little bits of

vegetables to my broth and blended it that way but so little it is

still clear. I have lost almost 10 lbs. Are you supposed to drink

in small sips and very slowly? I thought I was drinking slowly but

maybe not enough? I don't know what to think anymore...I have had

two C sections so I am not unfamiliar with surgeries or pain...so

why do I feel so bad? Rosie

[Guest guest]

, you may just be super restricted. I know there are some bandsters on

the list that were very tight from the beginning and didn't need a fill for

many months. I am sorry you are in pain still. Did it just start hurting

again today? Maybe you over did it? Yes you are supposed to sip very tiny

sips. You might try waiting a few minutes between sips. And how much are you

getting in with each meal? I know if I drink/eat too much I get a pain in my

left side and shoulder.

Hang in there.

M

OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

Am I being a baby or just having a different reaction than anyone

else? Today is my 10th day post op and I feel like crap. My

shoulder pain had gotten better and now it hurts a lot again. Also,

after eating (still clear liquids by the way), I feel pains in my

back and chest...what is wrong with me? I'm starting to doubt my

decision to have this surgery. Will this go away or am I doomed for

life? I was in so much pain last night...shoulder, chest,

back...that even my face hurts...I know that sounds crazy...but it

did...am I doing something wrong or will I feel like this everytime

I eat for as long as I have the band? I am so frustrated I wish I

had never gone through with this, I thought I'd be fine by now but I

feel crappy!!!!! I thought maybe I had gas, but I can't even

burp...don't know why, I've been good about the liquid diet and

haven't cheated, except I have a small cup of skim milk with a bit

of coffee in the morning, I also added a few little bits of

vegetables to my broth and blended it that way but so little it is

still clear. I have lost almost 10 lbs. Are you supposed to drink

in small sips and very slowly? I thought I was drinking slowly but

maybe not enough? I don't know what to think anymore...I have had

two C sections so I am not unfamiliar with surgeries or pain...so

why do I feel so bad? Rosie

[Guest guest]

Rosie, It sounds pretty normal, you are only 10 days out of surgery. Really try to drink slowly and little sips. Try using a straw or a cap/lid off of a bottle, sounds silly but will help you know how little a sip should be. Also, don't forget your liquid Tylenol!!!! Take it every 4-6 hours around the clock, it really did help me. I still use tylenol once in a while for the shoulder pain and I'm 4 months out. It does get better!! really, it becomes less and less, give it time. Be careful with veggies?? Maybe get vegetable flavored broth, if your pain got worse with the veggie broth you made then don't drink it for another week or so. I too had pain in my left jaw/face, it only lasted a few days and never came back, thank God!!

You will feel better, soon, day by day it gets better....Take care.Dana

-------------- Original message -------------- From: " " <roanch@...> Am I being a baby or just having a different reaction than anyone else? Today is my 10th day post op and I feel like crap. My shoulder pain had gotten better and now it hurts a lot again. Also, after eating (still clear liquids by the way), I feel pains in my back and chest...what is wrong with me? I'm starting to doubt my decision to have this surgery. Will this go away or am I doomed for life? I was in so much pain last night...shoulder, chest, back...that even my face hurts...I know that sounds crazy...but it did...am I doing something wrong or will I feel like this everytime I eat for as long as I have the band? I am so frustrated I wish I had never gone through with this, I thought I'd be fine by now but I BR>feel crappy!!!!! I thought maybe I had gas, but I can't even burp...don't know why, I've been good about the liquid diet and haven't cheated, except I have a small cup of skim milk with a bit of coffee in the morning, I also added a few little bits of vegetables to my broth and blended it that way but so little it is still clear. I have lost almost 10 lbs. Are you supposed to drink in small sips and very slowly? I thought I was drinking slowly but maybe not enough? I don't know what to think anymore...I have had two C sections so I am not unfamiliar with surgeries or pain...so why do I feel so bad? Rosie

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I've been in pain pretty much from the beginning. Also, my back hurts a

lot. Eventually it will go away, right? I've been able keep down pretty

much anything I eat, no nausea, nothing, just the freaking pain, I also feel

very weak. So, basically, if I'm eating too much I might feel it in the

shoulder? Is that right? I had not made that connection at all. My

husband's chiropractor gave him an ointment for his bad back which seems to

help me. Today I had some yogurt for the first time and I felt fine with it

going down. I thought the shoulder pain was gas? I'm confused....

>From: " Mills " <tracy@...>

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>Subject: RE: OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

>Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:41:27 -0500

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>, you may just be super restricted. I know there are some bandsters on

>the list that were very tight from the beginning and didn't need a fill for

>many months. I am sorry you are in pain still. Did it just start hurting

>again today? Maybe you over did it? Yes you are supposed to sip very tiny

>sips. You might try waiting a few minutes between sips. And how much are

>you

>getting in with each meal? I know if I drink/eat too much I get a pain in

>my

>left side and shoulder.

>

>Hang in there.

>

> M

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> OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

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>Am I being a baby or just having a different reaction than anyone

>else? Today is my 10th day post op and I feel like crap. My

>shoulder pain had gotten better and now it hurts a lot again. Also,

>after eating (still clear liquids by the way), I feel pains in my

>back and chest...what is wrong with me? I'm starting to doubt my

>decision to have this surgery. Will this go away or am I doomed for

>life? I was in so much pain last night...shoulder, chest,

>back...that even my face hurts...I know that sounds crazy...but it

>did...am I doing something wrong or will I feel like this everytime

>I eat for as long as I have the band? I am so frustrated I wish I

>had never gone through with this, I thought I'd be fine by now but I

>feel crappy!!!!! I thought maybe I had gas, but I can't even

>burp...don't know why, I've been good about the liquid diet and

>haven't cheated, except I have a small cup of skim milk with a bit

>of coffee in the morning, I also added a few little bits of

>vegetables to my broth and blended it that way but so little it is

>still clear. I have lost almost 10 lbs. Are you supposed to drink

>in small sips and very slowly? I thought I was drinking slowly but

>maybe not enough? I don't know what to think anymore...I have had

>two C sections so I am not unfamiliar with surgeries or pain...so

>why do I feel so bad? Rosie

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[Guest guest]

It is called referred shoulder pain. The way it was explained to me is when

I overeat, I expand my pouch, which irritates my diaphragm (as irritates the

diaphragm too), which in turn irritates the phrenic nerve which has a

pathway to the shoulder. I usually feel the pain under my left breast and

shoulder, but sometimes the middle of my back.

Defiknition: Referred shoulder pain

Unexplained shoulder pain that does not change when you move your neck,

shoulder, or arm or that occurs with symptoms elsewhere in your body (such

as in your abdomen or chest) may be referred shoulder pain. Referred pain

means that a problem exists somewhere else in the body other than where you

feel the pain.

And this post from OH explains it better (read 4th post down)

http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/LapBand/postdetail/92416.html?vc=0

M

OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

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>Am I being a baby or just having a different reaction than anyone

>else? Today is my 10th day post op and I feel like crap. My

>shoulder pain had gotten better and now it hurts a lot again. Also,

>after eating (still clear liquids by the way), I feel pains in my

>back and chest...what is wrong with me? I'm starting to doubt my

>decision to have this surgery. Will this go away or am I doomed for

>life? I was in so much pain last night...shoulder, chest,

>back...that even my face hurts...I know that sounds crazy...but it

>did...am I doing something wrong or will I feel like this everytime

>I eat for as long as I have the band? I am so frustrated I wish I

>had never gone through with this, I thought I'd be fine by now but I

>feel crappy!!!!! I thought maybe I had gas, but I can't even

>burp...don't know why, I've been good about the liquid diet and

>haven't cheated, except I have a small cup of skim milk with a bit

>of coffee in the morning, I also added a few little bits of

>vegetables to my broth and blended it that way but so little it is

>still clear. I have lost almost 10 lbs. Are you supposed to drink

>in small sips and very slowly? I thought I was drinking slowly but

>maybe not enough? I don't know what to think anymore...I have had

>two C sections so I am not unfamiliar with surgeries or pain...so

>why do I feel so bad? Rosie

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[Guest guest]

Gas also makes the pouch expand and also irritates the

diaphragm....this is why Gas X is recommended....it may help.

We are working on a document for post op questions and answers to

hand out along with the paperwork at the hospital. Drainage, gas,

shoulder pain, etc. The most common questions patients usually

have....great idea of having it on the database as well.

Nina

>

> //The way it was explained to me is when I overeat, I expand my

pouch,

> which irritates my diaphragm (as irritates the diaphragm too),

which

> in turn irritates the phrenic nerve which has a pathway to the

> shoulder. I usually feel the pain under my left breast and

> shoulder, but sometimes the middle of my back. //

>

> ,

> you are sooooooo wise. i could not have said it better. perhaps

we

> should put this somewhere people have access to. maybe even see

if

> Nina can put it together in a handout for patients. so many

people

> think they have gas.

>

> nancy

> 7/18/05

> 280/185/140

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks In re-reading, I can see my typos. I was typing in my car on

my lunch break, plus my nails are too long LOL. But yes, I think I will save

that OH post on a notepad somewhere so I can refer to it.

Re: OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

//The way it was explained to me is when I overeat, I expand my pouch,

which irritates my diaphragm (as irritates the diaphragm too), which

in turn irritates the phrenic nerve which has a pathway to the

shoulder. I usually feel the pain under my left breast and

shoulder, but sometimes the middle of my back. //

,

you are sooooooo wise. i could not have said it better. perhaps we

should put this somewhere people have access to. maybe even see if

Nina can put it together in a handout for patients. so many people

think they have gas.

nancy

7/18/05

280/185/140

[Guest guest]

Nina Just wanted to update you I didnt know if we should email DR A or you it says email every 10 days so here goes we made it home we have been working all is well we have kept to the liq diet I am down 13 pounds and Bernadette is down 12 We took the smaller stitches out today Monday may 22 Very easy no problem I had the back pain on my left side all week but it seems to come and go now. I have only had the broth twice since I left there otherwise I have only had water am I drinking too much water and it causes pain Bernadette has done well with the broth jello and water. She had a bit of pain in or arround the larger insision today but nothing major. I am still swollen and still very bruised any suggestions. Thanks alot Nina Leona and BernadeeteNina <nina_eguia@...> wrote: Gas also makes the pouch expand and also irritates the diaphragm....this is why Gas X is recommended....it may help.We are working on a document for post op questions and answers to hand out along with the paperwork at the hospital. Drainage, gas, shoulder pain, etc. The most common questions patients usually have....great idea of having it on the database as well. Nina>> //The way it was explained to me is when I

overeat, I expand my pouch, > which irritates my diaphragm (as irritates the diaphragm too), which > in turn irritates the phrenic nerve which has a pathway to the > shoulder. I usually feel the pain under my left breast and> shoulder, but sometimes the middle of my back. //> > ,> you are sooooooo wise. i could not have said it better. perhaps we > should put this somewhere people have access to. maybe even see if > Nina can put it together in a handout for patients. so many people > think they have gas.> > nancy> 7/18/05> 280/185/140>

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[Guest guest]

Nina, I had bad typing going on in my post. Where it says :

//The way it was explained to me is when I overeat, I expand my

pouch,

> which irritates my diaphragm (as irritates the diaphragm too),

which

> in turn irritates the phrenic nerve which has a pathway to the

> shoulder.

That was supposed to be (GAS irritates the diaphragm too) LOL.

M

Re: OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

Gas also makes the pouch expand and also irritates the

diaphragm....this is why Gas X is recommended....it may help.

We are working on a document for post op questions and answers to

hand out along with the paperwork at the hospital. Drainage, gas,

shoulder pain, etc. The most common questions patients usually

have....great idea of having it on the database as well.

Nina

>

> //The way it was explained to me is when I overeat, I expand my

pouch,

> which irritates my diaphragm (as irritates the diaphragm too),

which

> in turn irritates the phrenic nerve which has a pathway to the

> shoulder. I usually feel the pain under my left breast and

> shoulder, but sometimes the middle of my back. //

>

> ,

> you are sooooooo wise. i could not have said it better. perhaps

we

> should put this somewhere people have access to. maybe even see

if

> Nina can put it together in a handout for patients. so many

people

> think they have gas.

>

> nancy

> 7/18/05

> 280/185/140

>

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Penny you are my idol....congrats!!!

In a message dated 5/30/2006 9:39:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, pmanvill@... writes:

I was one of the ones who had the same trouble you are (minus the terrible shoulder pain--Thank God). My stomach was very swollen and I could not drink anything except water, broth and popsicles--and not much of any of those! I stayed swollen until almost 9 weeks! Just hang in there and think of the rewards down the road. By the way, at 9 weeks I got terribly hungry and could eat almost anything! It was time for a fill. The good thing was that I was not hungry until then although I was very thirsty the first few weeks and had to make myself drink so I wouldn't dehydrate. FYI after 8 months I have lost 55 lbs. and am wearing a size 12 jeans! My backaches are gone, my knees don't hurt and neither do my feet. I can climb in our old red pickup easily and can walk 4 miles with out problems! I am 66 years old.Best wishes, Penny>> , you may just be super restricted. I know there are some bandsters on> the list that were very tight from the beginning and didn't need a fill for> many months. I am sorry you are in pain still. Did it just start hurting> again today? Maybe you over did it? Yes you are supposed to sip very tiny> sips. You might try waiting a few minutes between sips. And how much are you> getting in with each meal? I know if I drink/eat too much I get a pain in my> left side and shoulder. > > Hang in there.> > M> > > > OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN> > Am I being a baby or just having a different reaction than anyone > else? Today is my 10th day post op and I feel like crap. My > shoulder pain had gotten better and now it hurts a lot again. Also, > after eating (still clear liquids by the way), I feel pains in my > back and chest...what is wrong with me? I'm starting to doubt my > decision to have this surgery. Will this go away or am I doomed for > life? I was in so much pain last night...shoulder, chest, > back...that even my face hurts...I know that sounds crazy...but it > did...am I doing something wrong or will I feel like this everytime > I eat for as long as I have the band? I am so frustrated I wish I > had never gone through with this, I thought I'd be fine by now but I > feel crappy!!!!! I thought maybe I had gas, but I can't even > burp...don't know why, I've been good about the liquid diet and > haven't cheated, except I have a small cup of skim milk with a bit > of coffee in the morning, I also added a few little bits of > vegetables to my broth and blended it that way but so little it is > still clear. I have lost almost 10 lbs. Are you supposed to drink > in small sips and very slowly? I thought I was drinking slowly but > maybe not enough? I don't know what to think anymore...I have had > two C sections so I am not unfamiliar with surgeries or pain...so > why do I feel so bad? Rosie > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I was one of the ones who had the same trouble you are (minus the

terrible shoulder pain--Thank God). My stomach was very swollen and

I could not drink anything except water, broth and popsicles--and

not much of any of those! I stayed swollen until almost 9 weeks!

Just hang in there and think of the rewards down the road. By the

way, at 9 weeks I got terribly hungry and could eat almost

anything! It was time for a fill. The good thing was that I was not

hungry until then although I was very thirsty the first few weeks

and had to make myself drink so I wouldn't dehydrate. FYI after 8

months I have lost 55 lbs. and am wearing a size 12 jeans!

My backaches are gone, my knees don't hurt and neither do my feet.

I can climb in our old red pickup easily and can walk 4 miles with

out problems! I am 66 years old.

Best wishes, Penny

>

> , you may just be super restricted. I know there are some

bandsters on

> the list that were very tight from the beginning and didn't need a

fill for

> many months. I am sorry you are in pain still. Did it just start

hurting

> again today? Maybe you over did it? Yes you are supposed to sip

very tiny

> sips. You might try waiting a few minutes between sips. And how

much are you

> getting in with each meal? I know if I drink/eat too much I get a

pain in my

> left side and shoulder.

>

> Hang in there.

>

> M

>

>

>

> OH MY GOD...THIS IS NO FUN

>

> Am I being a baby or just having a different reaction than anyone

> else? Today is my 10th day post op and I feel like crap. My

> shoulder pain had gotten better and now it hurts a lot again.

Also,

> after eating (still clear liquids by the way), I feel pains in my

> back and chest...what is wrong with me? I'm starting to doubt my

> decision to have this surgery. Will this go away or am I doomed

for

> life? I was in so much pain last night...shoulder, chest,

> back...that even my face hurts...I know that sounds crazy...but it

> did...am I doing something wrong or will I feel like this

everytime

> I eat for as long as I have the band? I am so frustrated I wish I

> had never gone through with this, I thought I'd be fine by now but

I

> feel crappy!!!!! I thought maybe I had gas, but I can't even

> burp...don't know why, I've been good about the liquid diet and

> haven't cheated, except I have a small cup of skim milk with a bit

> of coffee in the morning, I also added a few little bits of

> vegetables to my broth and blended it that way but so little it is

> still clear. I have lost almost 10 lbs. Are you supposed to

drink

> in small sips and very slowly? I thought I was drinking slowly

but

> maybe not enough? I don't know what to think anymore...I have had

> two C sections so I am not unfamiliar with surgeries or pain...so

> why do I feel so bad? Rosie

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