Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 I am not sure about the answers to your questions, but I will take a shot at them. I believe the reason we don't get the nutrients out of grass is because we do not break the cell walls to release nutrients. Our bodies cannot digest cellulose, so if a cell wall is not opened, the food inside it stays locked in. Juicing or blending releases a lot of stuff that otherwise would just go straight through us. I have seen fresh garbanzo beans sold in huge bundles, vines and all, at flea markets in season. Most beans are dried before they are shelled, so, no, I don't think you could buy them fresh. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html Bill Barnhill is our Rainbow Example! aeranch@... ----- Original Message ----- From: " TerriLynne " <terri_lynne@...> <health > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Soaking beans > Hi Gala, and all, > I know it's been a week since your reply to my query about soaking > beans. But I have a further question. If you do soak them, are they > healthy for you. You know how we don't really get nutrients out of > grass? Well, are dried beans the same? > > I saw a query on some e-mail list about the possibility of purchasing > fresh beans, such as limas, pintos, black & navy beans. I suppose that > you live in the growing area, that would be possible? I wonder if you > can get such beans fresh anywhere else? > > TerriLynne > > Gala wrote: > You sure can soak them. I soaked my first garbanzos for 4 days before I > got > the nerve to try them. The taste is not the same as cooked, but that > flat > starchy taste is lessened by soaking, and they are softer for the > blender. > Gayla > Always Enough Ranch > Acampo, California > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi TerriLynne, You won't and don't get any nutrients out of dried beans (soaked and/or cooked). Eating the beans while they are still green is a different story. Beans are very hard on the human digestive system as they are both a protein and a carbohydrate. Eating proteins with carbohydrates prohibits the release of the digestive enzymes needed to digest the carbohydrates (in the saliva) thus causing the fermentation of the carbohydrates in the digestive system. This is where we get the gas from. Most everyone eats carbs with proteins out of ignorance. I know I did for many long years. Meat and potatoes, meat and bread, beans and beans, beans and bread, beans and potatoes, beans and meat. All terrible combinations that will wreak havoc on the digestive system over time. Always much better to eat the beans fresh if you can obtain them. Dried beans are an excellent way to store them for future use but then they really are no longer an optimum food for us humans. Don Quai TerriLynne wrote: > Hi Gala, and all, > I know it's been a week since your reply to my query about soaking > beans. But I have a further question. If you do soak them, are they > healthy for you. You know how we don't really get nutrients out of > grass? Well, are dried beans the same? > > I saw a query on some e-mail list about the possibility of purchasing > fresh beans, such as limas, pintos, black & navy beans. I suppose that > you live in the growing area, that would be possible? I wonder if you > can get such beans fresh anywhere else? > > TerriLynne > > Gala wrote: > You sure can soak them. I soaked my first garbanzos for 4 days before I > got > the nerve to try them. The taste is not the same as cooked, but that > flat > starchy taste is lessened by soaking, and they are softer for the > blender. > Gayla > Always Enough Ranch > Acampo, California > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Excellent answer Gayla and right on! This is exactly why we do not get nutrients from grasses. Gayla wrote: > I am not sure about the answers to your questions, but I will take a shot at > them. I believe the reason we don't get the nutrients out of grass is > because we do not break the cell walls to release nutrients. Our bodies > cannot digest cellulose, so if a cell wall is not opened, the food inside it > stays locked in. Juicing or blending releases a lot of stuff that otherwise > would just go straight through us. > I have seen fresh garbanzo beans sold in huge bundles, vines and all, at > flea markets in season. Most beans are dried before they are shelled, so, > no, I don't think you could buy them fresh. > Gayla > Always Enough Ranch > Acampo, California > http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html > Bill Barnhill is our Rainbow Example! > aeranch@... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " TerriLynne " <terri_lynne@...> > <health > > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: Soaking beans > > > >> Hi Gala, and all, >> I know it's been a week since your reply to my query about soaking >> beans. But I have a further question. If you do soak them, are they >> healthy for you. You know how we don't really get nutrients out of >> grass? Well, are dried beans the same? >> >> I saw a query on some e-mail list about the possibility of purchasing >> fresh beans, such as limas, pintos, black & navy beans. I suppose that >> you live in the growing area, that would be possible? I wonder if you >> can get such beans fresh anywhere else? >> >> TerriLynne >> >> Gala wrote: >> You sure can soak them. I soaked my first garbanzos for 4 days before I >> got >> the nerve to try them. The taste is not the same as cooked, but that >> flat >> starchy taste is lessened by soaking, and they are softer for the >> blender. >> Gayla >> Always Enough Ranch >> Acampo, California >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Wow Don! Do you mean I actually got something right?? WHEEE!!!!! <VBG> I believe I will pat myself on the back and go find a good yard sale! Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html Bill Barnhill is our Rainbow Example! aeranch@... ----- Original Message ----- From: " Don Eitner " <mysticalherbalist@...> <health > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Soaking beans > Excellent answer Gayla and right on! This is exactly why we do not get > nutrients from grasses. > > Gayla wrote: >> I am not sure about the answers to your questions, but I will take a shot >> at >> them. I believe the reason we don't get the nutrients out of grass is >> because we do not break the cell walls to release nutrients. Our bodies >> cannot digest cellulose, so if a cell wall is not opened, the food inside >> it >> stays locked in. Juicing or blending releases a lot of stuff that >> otherwise >> would just go straight through us. >> I have seen fresh garbanzo beans sold in huge bundles, vines and all, at >> flea markets in season. Most beans are dried before they are shelled, so, >> no, I don't think you could buy them fresh. >> Gayla >> Always Enough Ranch >> Acampo, California >> http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html >> Bill Barnhill is our Rainbow Example! >> aeranch@... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: " TerriLynne " <terri_lynne@...> >> <health > >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 2:57 PM >> Subject: Re: Soaking beans >> >> >> >>> Hi Gala, and all, >>> I know it's been a week since your reply to my query about soaking >>> beans. But I have a further question. If you do soak them, are they >>> healthy for you. You know how we don't really get nutrients out of >>> grass? Well, are dried beans the same? >>> >>> I saw a query on some e-mail list about the possibility of purchasing >>> fresh beans, such as limas, pintos, black & navy beans. I suppose that >>> you live in the growing area, that would be possible? I wonder if you >>> can get such beans fresh anywhere else? >>> >>> TerriLynne >>> >>> Gala wrote: >>> You sure can soak them. I soaked my first garbanzos for 4 days before I >>> got >>> the nerve to try them. The taste is not the same as cooked, but that >>> flat >>> starchy taste is lessened by soaking, and they are softer for the >>> blender. >>> Gayla >>> Always Enough Ranch >>> Acampo, California >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 I am in California. I don't see why you could not grow them in Utah, unless your growing season is too short. Most " dry " beans require at least 100+ growing days. You could ask at a local nursery or poke around a seed site for more info. Here's a link for one site that I always find informative and they have an Organic section too. http://www.johnnyseeds.com/default.aspx Or you could just get a handful of garbanzos and plant them and see what happens. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html Bill Barnhill is our Rainbow Example! aeranch@... ----- Original Message ----- From: " TerriLynne " <terri_lynne@...> <health > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:49 AM Subject: Re: Soaking beans > Hi Gala, > In which state(s) have you seen fresh garbanzos sold? Did you try eating > them? I wonder if they would grow in Utah. > > TerriLynne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Yes, I have eaten them. I like them fresh. Gayla Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html Bill Barnhill is our Rainbow Example! aeranch@... ----- Original Message ----- From: " TerriLynne " <terri_lynne@...> <health > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:49 AM Subject: Re: Soaking beans > Hi Gala, > In which state(s) have you seen fresh garbanzos sold? Did you try eating > them? I wonder if they would grow in Utah. > > TerriLynne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi Don, I understood you to say that it isn't good to eat a carb with a protein. It is this statement that I am curious about. I would like to understand the scientific reasons why these two don't digest well together. But any other information you can share with me about the inabsorbability of soaked dry legumes would be appreciated. TerriLynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2006 Report Share Posted September 10, 2006 Hi Gala, Thanks for the seed link. And, I'm thinking, especially if I sprouted them inside, it might well work. I just may give it a try. TerriLynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hi TerriLynne, It is scientifically proven that when we eat protein there is no salivary amylase released into the mouth with the saliva, even though we eat a carbohydrate with that protein. If we don't eat any protein then salivary amylase is indeed released. Salivary amylase is the enzyme that begins the digestion of all carbohydrates in the mouth. Without this enzyme the carbs will just go to the stomach where they will ferment. Also, proteins take a different enzyme to digest than do carbs and when eaten along with carbs then the wrong enzymes are in the stomach and will not digest the carbs. Our tongue senses what we eat and lets the body know what type of enzymes to prepare for the digestion of said food. When we combine too many foods we confuse this mechanism and all sorts of digestive disorders result. This is where learning about food combining is so relevant for good or at least better health. Never combine proteins and carbohydrates, never combine fats with carbohydrates (this means meat fats and oils processed from nuts and plants (fractionated)). There are lots of charts online that show how to combine foods and what to combine with what for proper digestion. HTH, Don TerriLynne wrote: > Hi Don, > I understood you to say that it isn't good to eat a carb with a protein. > It is this statement that I am curious about. I would like to understand > the scientific reasons why these two don't digest well together. But any > other information you can share with me about the inabsorbability of > soaked dry legumes would be appreciated. > > TerriLynne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 It is always a good practice to chew your food well, so that your saliva can start the digestion process right away. Protein digestion starts in the stomach, where acids begin to denature the protein strands. By the time a protein gets to your small intestine it will be broken up into individual amino acids for absorption. The body then uses these amino acids to build any particular protein it needs. It is like a puzzle being taken apart and re-assembled endlessly into different pictures. Janet From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Don Eitner Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:55 AM health Subject: Re: Soaking beans Hi TerriLynne, It is scientifically proven that when we eat protein there is no salivary amylase released into the mouth with the saliva, even though we eat a carbohydrate with that protein. If we don't eat any protein then salivary amylase is indeed released. Salivary amylase is the enzyme that begins the digestion of all carbohydrates in the mouth. Without this enzyme the carbs will just go to the stomach where they will ferment. Also, proteins take a different enzyme to digest than do carbs and when eaten along with carbs then the wrong enzymes are in the stomach and will not digest the carbs. Our tongue senses what we eat and lets the body know what type of enzymes to prepare for the digestion of said food. When we combine too many foods we confuse this mechanism and all sorts of digestive disorders result. This is where learning about food combining is so relevant for good or at least better health. Never combine proteins and carbohydrates, never combine fats with carbohydrates (this means meat fats and oils processed from nuts and plants (fractionated)). There are lots of charts online that show how to combine foods and what to combine with what for proper digestion. HTH, Don TerriLynne wrote: > Hi Don, > I understood you to say that it isn't good to eat a carb with a protein. > It is this statement that I am curious about. I would like to understand > the scientific reasons why these two don't digest well together. But any > other information you can share with me about the inabsorbability of > soaked dry legumes would be appreciated. > > TerriLynne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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