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In a message dated 5/6/2004 7:48:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

bingrao@... writes:

The 500/1000/2000

average covers the frequencies of speech that people with normal hearing

need to understand speech (closely relates to the frequencies

transmitted by a standard land line phone).

No wonder why some doctor said I had profound to total loss, for I never had

response at 1,000 and above.

Is there truly such term, " total " used after profound?

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In a message dated 5/6/04 12:18:06 PM, spottedlee@... writes:

> Is there truly such term, " total " used after profound?

>

Deaf as a door nail??? that was me!

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There is a term " anacusis " which means no measurable hearing. My son's

right ear is like this. Even at the maximum output of the audiometer

(120 dB) he hears nothing. This is pretty rare as most people with

" profound " losses have some residual hearing.

It is very interesting to me how two people with the same amount of

residual hearing (in dB) can have such different abilities to use that

hearing.

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Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA

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EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network

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In a message dated 5/6/2004 7:48:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,

bingrao@... writes:

The 500/1000/2000

average covers the frequencies of speech that people with normal hearing

need to understand speech (closely relates to the frequencies

transmitted by a standard land line phone).

No wonder why some doctor said I had profound to total loss, for I never

had response at 1,000 and above.

Is there truly such term, " total " used after profound?

Lee

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right on lisa! im really inspired by how well you do lisa and i think u will

be happy with how you will do with a ci too.

im in same boat people are surprised how i do with what residual hearing i

have, but i dont have to deal with blindness. thanks for sharing about

yourself. i look forward to hearing about your journey with ci as you travel

on...

best luck! joni

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In a message dated 5/6/04 5:40:36 PM, bingrao@... writes:

> anacusis

>

ahhhhhh i finally learned what i am or was .... without CI i have no

measurable hearing in both ears and yes it is very rare of course i

didn't

know this when i lost my hearing

i thought when someone said they were deaf it meant just like me boy did

i every learn

how wrong i was

susan

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Hi Brad,

That amazes me as well. I've been told by several of my audis how impressed

they are with how I always try to use what residual hearing I have despite

what they consider to be a very severe hearing loss . I explain that because

of my blindness, I have no other choice since I can't rely on lipreading or

other visual cues to help me understand what I don't hear. Also, since

getting an interpreter or captionist requires several days advance notice,

sometimes I have to use other communication methods that are less convenient

but perfectly " doable " (i.e., Braille/raised print alphabet card, print on

palm, TeleBraille, FM system, Tellatouch, fingerspelling).

It's interesting how some people who call themselves " deaf " or " partially

deaf " have quite a bit of residual hearing while others who are profoundly

deaf call themselves HoH. As an audiologist, it must be difficult for you to

assimilate what someone tells you with the reality of what you're observing.

For example, a client tells you that they are doing fine with their current

HAs even though they're constantly asking you to repeat yourself. It's also

interesting to note how two different people can react to varying degrees of

hearing loss. For instance, one person may cope with a 50 dB hearing loss

quite well while another is devastated by a 30 dB loss. Thank goodness there

are no hard and fast rules regarding all of this! We're all human and react

to things differently based on our own personal experiences.

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Hi Joni,

Thanks for the nice compliments!! <smile> I'm really looking forward to this

new journey -- no matter what happens. No matter if I'm a candidate or not

and no matter if my CI is successful or not. Sometimes you just have to work

with the cards you're given. That's easier said than done, but having a

positive attitude can go a long way in making a difficult situation better!

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,

You've hit the nail on the head as far as people's self-labels and the

data. You should be an audiologist!

____________________________________________

Best Regards,

Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA

Editor

EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network

www.bradingrao.com

e-mail: info@...

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Hi Brad,

That amazes me as well. I've been told by several of my audis how

impressed they are with how I always try to use what residual hearing I

have despite what they consider to be a very severe hearing loss . I

explain that because of my blindness, I have no other choice since I

can't rely on lipreading or other visual cues to help me understand what

I don't hear. Also, since getting an interpreter or captionist requires

several days advance notice, sometimes I have to use other communication

methods that are less convenient but perfectly " doable " (i.e.,

Braille/raised print alphabet card, print on palm, TeleBraille, FM

system, Tellatouch, fingerspelling).

It's interesting how some people who call themselves " deaf " or

" partially deaf " have quite a bit of residual hearing while others who

are profoundly deaf call themselves HoH. As an audiologist, it must be

difficult for you to assimilate what someone tells you with the reality

of what you're observing.

For example, a client tells you that they are doing fine with their

current HAs even though they're constantly asking you to repeat

yourself. It's also interesting to note how two different people can

react to varying degrees of hearing loss. For instance, one person may

cope with a 50 dB hearing loss quite well while another is devastated by

a 30 dB loss. Thank goodness there are no hard and fast rules regarding

all of this! We're all human and react to things differently based on

our own personal experiences.

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