RE: Psoriasis and bariatric surgery

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In a message dated 4/7/2008 11:25:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ladyamom@... writes:

At this point I am tired of trying to figure it all out and am thinking it

would just be healthier for me in particular to just get a reversal,

especially since I never lost anywhere near what I needed to lose anyway.

You can find a naturopathic doctor for a saliva test which will test you

history of all vites and minerals. Saliva tests are far more accurate than blood

tests and it won't cost much more to break out all the testing you 'need' to

get done for vitamin and trace minerals.

Best regards,

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So sorry to hear about your fight with psoriasis. I had psoriasis prior to

my MGB. I can tell you that there is a connection to your liver. When my

liver was functioning normally my psoriasis went away. Maybe try to find

doctor who understands the connection with the liver and psoriasis.

Good luck on your quest for getting that under control

cheri

Dr Rutledge 10/2005

-- Psoriasis and bariatric surgery

Just thought I would pass this on. I've been battling a bad (almost

crippling) case of psoriasis on my hands, feet and elbows. My feet have

been cracking so badly from it that it has caused me to limp which in turn

has caused my foot tendons to be inflamed (fastiatis sp?) which has made

walking very painful and difficult. Have been to four dermatologists

seeking something that works and have yet to find anything besides steroids

(which can't be taken long term) that helps. The last and current

dermatologist said that there is a bariatric clinic right behind him and

that he is seeing an unusually large number of patients that have had

bariatric surgery and have developed psoriasis 2-4 years out. He doesn't

know what about the bariatric surgery would be causing it but did seem to

think that getting a reversal would not make it go away ... although I

don't know how he could draw that conclusion as I don't think he's seen

many if any reversals. I didn't ask him what kind of bariatric surgery he

was seeing ... I suspect the RNY but I think that the absorption problems

would be the same with MGB or RNY so I am posting this for that reason.

I still have loss of hair and nails with ridges so I suspect there are some

missing something problems ... even though all my tests come out fine. I

actually thought I might have been taking too much of everything (zinc,

biotin, flaxseed, fish oil, daily etc) so have recently tried cutting back

on everything ... and my tests have still come back fine. I had no health

problems prior to my surgery other than the obesity and high cholesterol.

At this point I am tired of trying to figure it all out and am thinking it

would just be healthier for me in particular to just get a reversal,

especially since I never lost anywhere near what I needed to lose anyway.

I just thought I would pass on the doctor's observation to you all. If

anyone is in the same boat with the psoriasis after the bariatric surgery

and has found anything that helps please let me know.

2/4/04

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I've had psoriasis all my life. What is a true thing with Psoriasis is that

the onset of it occurs in a lot of occasions with adults after a trauma to the

body. Such as a car wreck, even dentists visits and major changes in health.

Thus, the bypass could cause it. After having my mgb I didn't flare, but it

hasn't gone away either. I also know for a fact that any type of hormonal

changes causes major flare ups, and the mgb definitely affects our hormones, so

please have blood tests done on your hormone level and see if that is the

culprit.

Please check with a dermatologist about using light therapy on your feet and

hands. It's worked wonders for me and my first choice is light therapy over

steroids, but you can use them in conjunction with each other as well. They

have these neat little feet and hands machines that you can use for therapy. I

do find getting in the sun is also a relief for psoriasis.

I'm 57 and have Psoriasis since the age of 12. I've been to Duke and Baptist

Hospitals here in North Carolina for all kinds of studies, etc. so feel free

to write back and ask anything that you might need to know from a patient's

perspective and I'll be glad to help in any way I can.

Suzanne Hazelwood

Dr. Rutledge

7/17/03

High Point Hospital

In a message dated 4/7/2008 11:24:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ladyamom@... writes:

Just thought I would pass this on. I've been battling a bad (almost

crippling) case of psoriasis on my hands, feet and elbows. My feet have

been cracking so badly from it that it has caused me to limp which in turn

has caused my foot tendons to be inflamed (fastiatis sp?) which has made

walking very painful and difficult. Have been to four dermatologists

seeking something that works and have yet to find anything besides steroids

(which can't be taken long term) that helps. The last and current

dermatologist said that there is a bariatric clinic right behind him and

that he is seeing an unusually large number of patients that have had

bariatric surgery and have developed psoriasis 2-4 years out. He doesn't

know what about the bariatric surgery would be causing it but did seem to

think that getting a reversal would not make it go away ... although I

don't know how he could draw that conclusion as I don't think he's seen

many if any reversals. I didn't ask him what kind of bariatric surgery he

was seeing ... I suspect the RNY but I think that the absorption problems

would be the same with MGB or RNY so I am posting this for that reason.

I still have loss of hair and nails with ridges so I suspect there are some

missing something problems ... even though all my tests come out fine. I

actually thought I might have been taking too much of everything (zinc,

biotin, flaxseed, fish oil, daily etc) so have recently tried cutting back

on everything ... and my tests have still come back fine. I had no health

problems prior to my surgery other than the obesity and high cholesterol.

At this point I am tired of trying to figure it all out and am thinking it

would just be healthier for me in particular to just get a reversal,

especially since I never lost anywhere near what I needed to lose anyway.

I just thought I would pass on the doctor's observation to you all. If

anyone is in the same boat with the psoriasis after the bariatric surgery

and has found anything that helps please let me know.

2/4/04

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Hi ,

I don't know how you feel about spending a few minutes in a tanning bed, but,

several of my non-MGB friends have bad psoriasis and they tan a couple of times

a week to make it go away and then once or twice a month to keep it under

control.? I had a little on my elbows years ago and it went away with the

tanning bed and didnt come back.? And you dont have to spend a lot of time in

there, just fiv e or ten minutes should do it.

I am not a doctor but I know this works.? Good Luck.

in Fla

Psoriasis and bariatric surgery

Just thought I would pass this on. I've been battling a bad (almost

crippling) case of psoriasis on my hands, feet and elbows. My feet have

been cracking so badly from it that it has caused me to limp which in turn

has caused my foot tendons to be inflamed (fastiatis sp?) which has made

walking very painful and difficult. Have been to four dermatologists

seeking something that works and have yet to find anything besides steroids

(which can't be taken long term) that helps. The last and current

dermatologist said that there is a bariatric clinic right behind him and

that he is seeing an unusually large number of patients that have had

bariatric surgery and have developed psoriasis 2-4 years out. He doesn't

know what about the bariatric surgery would be causing it but did seem to

think that getting a reversal would not make it go away ... although I

don't know how he could draw that conclusion as I don't think he's seen

many if any reversals. I didn't ask him what kind of bariatric surgery he

was seeing ... I suspect the RNY but I think that the absorption problems

would be the same with MGB or RNY so I am posting this for that reason.

I still have loss of hair and nails with ridges so I suspect there are some

missing something problems ... even though all my tests come out fine. I

actually thought I might have been taking too much of everything (zinc,

biotin, flaxseed, fish oil, daily etc) so have recently tried cutting back

on everything ... and my tests have still come back fine. I had no health

problems prior to my surgery other than the obesity and high cholesterol.

At this point I am tired of trying to figure it all out and am thinking it

would just be healthier for me in particular to just get a reversal,

especially since I never lost anywhere near what I needed to lose anyway.

I just thought I would pass on the doctor's observation to you all. If

anyone is in the same boat with the psoriasis after the bariatric surgery

and has found anything that helps please let me know.

2/4/04

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,

I have had psoriasis for over 30 years. It came out when I had an

asthma attack and I got pumped with cortisone. Once you stop taking

cortizone it comes back in triple. I was covered big time for

years...I couldn't bend my leg without the skin ripping and blood

everywhere. I could hardly walk. It was under my toe nails, finger

nails...everywhere!!

Living in Florida was hard wearing long sleeve shirts and pants to

cover myself up. It was so painful not to mention totally embarassing.

I found when something traumatic happens in my life or body out it

comes. So after reading your messages I figured you must have been

prone to it through heredity and the surgery just brought it out.

Anyone in your family have it that you know of?

I totally agree with that the tanning salon would help or if you

have insurance try the PUVA treatments.See if you can find a Doc that

does PUVA. Another thing I have done when I am really covered is to

take Methyltrexate for just a couple weeks and this will help. Quite

a few of the Rhuemtoid Arthritis drugs will work but they do cost a

fortune so you want insurance for some of them. Don't know where you

live but have you tried soaking in salt water? I have used Coconut

oil and Renew from the Melaleuca company(not selling just telling

about what worked for me) and both have worked well to get skin

softer.

Unless, I can't breathe then absolutely no cortizone internally.I

have mixed cortaid with the lotions to stop the itching.

When I had my MGB my skin got somewhat better but now my elbows are

starting to break out. BUT I haven't really been out in the sun

either lately. Also, they say no glutten and in the beginning I

wasn't eating bread and now I am, so going to find a place to buy

glutten free bread.

I just don't think spending the money for a reversal will help you

any.

I can relate to you and know the pain...you don't die of psoriasis

but it sure is debilitating.

Email me if you wish to talk.

Celeste

mrscamilitzer@...

Dr. P 7/19/2007

8' bypass

56 years old

high/surg/now/hopeful goal but being below 200 will be AWESOME!

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>

> Hi ,

>

> I don't know how you feel about spending a few minutes in a tanning

bed, but, several of my non-MGB friends have bad psoriasis and they

tan a couple of times a week to make it go away and then once or

twice a month to keep it under control.? I had a little on my elbows

years ago and it went away with the tanning bed and didnt come back.?

And you dont have to spend a lot of time in there, just fiv e or ten

minutes should do it.

>

> I am not a doctor but I know this works.? Good Luck.

>

> in Fla

>

>

> Psoriasis and bariatric surgery

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Just thought I would pass this on. I've been battling a bad (almost

> crippling) case of psoriasis on my hands, feet and elbows. My feet

have

> been cracking so badly from it that it has caused me to limp which

in turn

> has caused my foot tendons to be inflamed (fastiatis sp?) which has

made

> walking very painful and difficult. Have been to four dermatologists

> seeking something that works and have yet to find anything besides

steroids

> (which can't be taken long term) that helps. The last and current

> dermatologist said that there is a bariatric clinic right behind

him and

> that he is seeing an unusually large number of patients that have

had

> bariatric surgery and have developed psoriasis 2-4 years out. He

doesn't

> know what about the bariatric surgery would be causing it but did

seem to

> think that getting a reversal would not make it go away ...

although I

> don't know how he could draw that conclusion as I don't think he's

seen

> many if any reversals. I didn't ask him what kind of bariatric

surgery he

> was seeing ... I suspect the RNY but I think that the absorption

problems

> would be the same with MGB or RNY so I am posting this for that

reason.

>

> I still have loss of hair and nails with ridges so I suspect there

are some

> missing something problems ... even though all my tests come out

fine. I

> actually thought I might have been taking too much of everything

(zinc,

> biotin, flaxseed, fish oil, daily etc) so have recently tried

cutting back

> on everything ... and my tests have still come back fine. I had no

health

> problems prior to my surgery other than the obesity and high

cholesterol.

> At this point I am tired of trying to figure it all out and am

thinking it

> would just be healthier for me in particular to just get a reversal,

> especially since I never lost anywhere near what I needed to lose

anyway.

>

> I just thought I would pass on the doctor's observation to you all.

If

> anyone is in the same boat with the psoriasis after the bariatric

surgery

> and has found anything that helps please let me know.

>

>

> 2/4/04

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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" You can find a naturopathic doctor for a saliva test which will test you

history of all vites and minerals. Saliva tests are far more accurate than

blood tests and it won't cost much more to break out all the testing you

'need' to get done for vitamin and trace minerals. "

What a great idea. Thank you for taking the time to post this!

[Guest guest]

Thank you for replying Suzanne. Maybe I should give the light therapy

another go. I tried it a few times but didn't notice a difference.

I would even buy my own machine if it would help. I feel like this thing

has a death grip on me!

It feels like I have different psoriasis on my hands and feet than what I

have on my elbows (although the doc say it is the same and that it just

manifests itself differently on different parts of the body). Funny though

that some " Kerol Redi-cloths " work like a miracle on my elbows but make my

hands and feet drastically worse! What I have on my hands and feet doesn't

feel or look like psoriasis to me or from what I've seen on the internet

(but four dermatologist claim it is and they see lots more than I have).

It really comes on funny ... it first appears as a darkish yellow spot

where really thick skin then grows. I can actually feel it when it is

growing. It gets tighter and tighter every day. It grows so much that it

gets all hard and calloused and it just feels like it is going to explode.

Then it finally splits open from the pressure ... then peels off with

ragged edges and raw skin under it. Whereas my elbows are just rough dry

white scaly skin growth. I never tried the light therapy on my elbows but

I think it would probably help there ... I'm not so sure about this thick

skin stuff but at this point it is worth another go.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

Re: Psoriasis and bariatric surgery

I've had psoriasis all my life. What is a true thing with Psoriasis is that

the onset of it occurs in a lot of occasions with adults after a trauma to

the body. Such as a car wreck, even dentists visits and major changes in

health.

Thus, the bypass could cause it. After having my mgb I didn't flare, but

it hasn't gone away either. I also know for a fact that any type of

hormonal changes causes major flare ups, and the mgb definitely affects our

hormones, so please have blood tests done on your hormone level and see if

that is the culprit.

Please check with a dermatologist about using light therapy on your feet

and hands. It's worked wonders for me and my first choice is light therapy

over steroids, but you can use them in conjunction with each other as well.

They have these neat little feet and hands machines that you can use for

therapy. I do find getting in the sun is also a relief for psoriasis.

I'm 57 and have Psoriasis since the age of 12. I've been to Duke and

Baptist Hospitals here in North Carolina for all kinds of studies, etc. so

feel free to write back and ask anything that you might need to know from

a patient's perspective and I'll be glad to help in any way I can.

Suzanne Hazelwood

Dr. Rutledge

7/17/03

High Point Hospital

In a message dated 4/7/2008 11:24:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ladyamom@... writes:

Just thought I would pass this on. I've been battling a bad (almost

crippling) case of psoriasis on my hands, feet and elbows. My feet have

been cracking so badly from it that it has caused me to limp which in turn

has caused my foot tendons to be inflamed (fastiatis sp?) which has made

walking very painful and difficult. Have been to four dermatologists

seeking something that works and have yet to find anything besides

steroids (which can't be taken long term) that helps. The last and

current dermatologist said that there is a bariatric clinic right behind

him and that he is seeing an unusually large number of patients that have

had bariatric surgery and have developed psoriasis 2-4 years out. He

doesn't know what about the bariatric surgery would be causing it but did

seem to think that getting a reversal would not make it go away ...

although I don't know how he could draw that conclusion as I don't think

he's seen many if any reversals. I didn't ask him what kind of bariatric

surgery he was seeing ... I suspect the RNY but I think that the

absorption problems

would be the same with MGB or RNY so I am posting this for that reason.

I still have loss of hair and nails with ridges so I suspect there are

some missing something problems ... even though all my tests come out

fine. I actually thought I might have been taking too much of everything

(zinc, biotin, flaxseed, fish oil, daily etc) so have recently tried

cutting back on everything ... and my tests have still come back fine. I

had no health problems prior to my surgery other than the obesity and high

cholesterol.

At this point I am tired of trying to figure it all out and am thinking it

would just be healthier for me in particular to just get a reversal,

especially since I never lost anywhere near what I needed to lose anyway.

I just thought I would pass on the doctor's observation to you all. If

anyone is in the same boat with the psoriasis after the bariatric surgery

and has found anything that helps please let me know.

2/4/04

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Thanks for the response .

Summer's coming up ... would it help as much to try tanning outside too or

does it only seem to work with the tanning beds?

Re: Psoriasis and bariatric surgery

Hi ,

I don't know how you feel about spending a few minutes in a tanning bed,

but, several of my non-MGB friends have bad psoriasis and they tan a couple

of times a week to make it go away and then once or twice a month to keep

it under control.? I had a little on my elbows years ago and it went away

with the tanning bed and didnt come back.? And you dont have to spend a lot

of time in there, just fiv e or ten minutes should do it.

I am not a doctor but I know this works.? Good Luck.

in Fla

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Hi ,

Outdoor tanning works also, it is just nice to be able to use the tanning bed

then you can regulate how much light you get applied to your problem areas

without getting a sun burn.

Good Luck

Re: Psoriasis and bariatric surgery

Hi ,

I don't know how you feel about spending a few minutes in a tanning bed,

but, several of my non-MGB friends have bad psoriasis and they tan a couple

of times a week to make it go away and then once or twice a month to keep

it under control.? I had a little on my elbows years ago and it went away

with the tanning bed and didnt come back.? And you dont have to spend a lot

of time in there, just fiv e or ten minutes should do it.

I am not a doctor but I know this works.? Good Luck.

in Fla