Guest guest Posted June 8, 1999 Report Share Posted June 8, 1999 My parents have been using them daily for about a year....I don't know if they help them or not. But my dad keeps getting 'reinfected' with Clostridium. At 06:28 PM 6/7/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: szorn@... (STEVE ZORN) > >I am interested in hearing about any experiences with the Zapper, either >good or bad. About a year ago a made one from the instructions in 'The >Cure For All Diseases " but the only thing I noticed from it was tingly >hands. I recently decided to purchase a Zapper and to get serious about >improving my health and would like to hear about your experiences. > >Thanks, >Steve > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: where real people with real interests get connected. > >Join a new list today! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ >http://www..ch/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ R. Sooley, DC Gerald F. Sooley, DC Sooley Chiropractic Health Center 11 E. Fairchild St. Danville, IL 61832 (217) 431-3290 voice (209) 797-6521 fax drsooley@... " Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food. " --Hippocrates, the Father of Modern Medicine A cheerful heart is good medicine... Prov 17:22a ______________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 On 7 Jun 99, at 18:28, STEVE ZORN wrote: > I am interested in hearing about any experiences with the Zapper, either > good or bad. About a year ago a made one from the instructions in 'The > Cure For All Diseases " but the only thing I noticed from it was tingly > hands. I recently decided to purchase a Zapper and to get serious about > improving my health and would like to hear about your experiences. When using the zapper alone, some people get good gains (I did) some people get some gains and some do not notice anything happening. To begin with it is important to observe that not noticing anything happening does not mean that nothing happened! :-) Only a syncrometer test (or some other good testing) before and after zapping would give definite knowledge about what really happened. BUT, the most important thing is that you should NOT use the zapper only. To get all the gains you should use it together with the parasite herbs and follow the program(s) in the books exactly as written. Also if you know that your home-built zapper is working correctly (it should be tested with an oscilloscope) there wouldn´t really be any need for you to buy a commercial one. It would be better to spend the money on the parasite herbs. And a last advice, the quality of the herbs are very important so get them from a reliable source, preferably one listed in the books. Best regards, Ulf ulftage@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Hi ,What is a plate zapper. I use a zapper that I made from Dr.s book.I have been using it for two weeks and cannot tell any difference yet. I get 4.30 volts through it.I soak in salt water and use a peice of wet paper towel.I zap 3 times a day =3times 7 =21 minutes a day. ---- Original Message ----- From: <Sjlane99@...> <Dregroups> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: Zappers > I have a sota zapper and have not yet noticed any differences when using it > the past few weeks. It has 2 large copper pipes with sleeves. Do I need salt > water? I hear some say they actually feel the pulsing with theirs. Are people > zapping by holding it in their hands? I know plate zapping is preferred, but > I don't have one yet. Is it better to position it on the wrists? > > Any experts out there? > > > Learn more from: > http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > http://home.online.no/~huldakli/ > http://www..net/ > http://home.online.no/~dusan/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Hi , No expert here My Sota zapper came with the same setup you have - copper pipes with cotton sleeves. The instructions say to wet the sleeves, so I assume you are. Try wetting them with salt water. You should get a mild tingling sensation which is not uncomfortable. More salt is going to give more tingling, and less salt, less tingling. Mind you, I don't know that the tingling is needed to ensure the zapper is effective. I'm just going on basic electrical principles that if you feel a tingle you are getting more zapper current to more places in your body than if you don't feel a tingling. Now you know at least as much as I do about zapping :>) As far as using it on your wrist, I snugly attach some cut up parts of sponges (salt water soaked) to my wrists with short pieces of wire and hook the zapper up to them. This leaves my hands free so I can read or compute while I zap. I don't think there's any difference between zapping through your hands or wrists. Let me know how it goes. Vince Richter >From: Sjlane99@... >I have a sota zapper and have not yet noticed any differences when using it >the past few weeks. It has 2 large copper pipes with sleeves. Do I need >salt >water? I hear some say they actually feel the pulsing with theirs.<snip> >Any experts out there? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 I mean best as determined from personal experience of the readers of the post who have used one or more zappers and feel that they have had a positive experience with them, and I'm also just interested to know which model the members of this group use. That way I can purchase one I can trust/is of high quality etc > I am still not clear on the question. Do you mean " best " as detirmined > by double blind, randomized studies, and published in main line > journals? > Leo > ---------------------------------- > > > > > Which zappers do you all use, and which have given > > > > the best results? > > > > There are many models of the standard " hulda clark zapper " > > available, from all sorts of different websites... > > I was just wondering which one was the most popular/ > > yielded the best results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Dear Leo, I mean best as determined from personal experience of the readers of the post who have used one or more zappers and feel that they have had a positive experience with them, and I'm also just interested to know which model the members of this group use. That way I can purchase one I can trust/is of high quality etc >>>>>>>>>>> The one and only absolute known effect I have had from the Zapper manufactured by Self help in San Diego California was the complete disappearance of basal cell carcinoma within three weeks after starting the zapper treatments which I did twice daily. There is no other explanation why this condition dissapeared other than the use of the zapper as well as the protocol. Don Wells The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Hi When did the below occur? I wonder what version of the zapper was used? CB >>>>>>>>> Four months ago and the zapper is the one called the Syncrozap. Thanks Don The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 << Four months ago and the zapper is the one called the Syncrozap. >> == Don, where did you get that zapper? Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Hi Don, where did you get that zapper? Christel >>>>>>>>>> I bought it from Self Help which is run by Geoff , Huldas son. Don The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Hi Leo Don, could you give us the model #? They sell two models, one is automatic and the other is not. Leo >>>>>>>>> The model number I am curently using is A3. I dont really know if this means much or not as they probably all work about the same? Don The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 << I bought it from Self Help which is run by Geoff , Huldas son. Don >> ==== I bought mine from DR s site. I am sure they are the same. I have had mine about 8 month but it is called Dr Zap. It's what she calls the Super Zapper De Luxe, price was $ 150.00 Christel PS: Did not do a thing for my skin cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 When did the below occur? I wonder what version of the zapper was used? CB Re: Re: Zappers Dear Leo, I mean best as determined from personal experience of the readers of the post who have used one or more zappersand feel that they have had a positive experiencewith them, and I'm also just interested to know whichmodel the members of this group use. That way Ican purchase one I can trust/is of high quality etc>>>>>>>>>>>The one and only absolute known effect I have had from the Zapper manufactured by Self help in San Diego California was the complete disappearance of basal cell carcinoma within three weeks after starting the zapper treatments which I did twice daily. There is no other explanation why this condition dissapeared other than the use of the zapper as well as the protocol.Don Wells The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Hi Christel, Christel PS: Did not do a thing for my skin cancer. >>>>>>>>> My skin cancer was on the side of my face and over the course of three weeks just faded away. It was a diagnosed case by a dermatologist also. Did you do the rest of the protocol? I think this is very important as well as drinking A LOT of water. Don The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Hi Leo So, Don, does yours have wrist bands or copper hand holds? >>>>>>>>> Mine have wrist bands that work very well. One little machine has travelled with me around the world and back and I like the convenience of using its automatic timing and shutoff. Don The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Don, could you give us the model #? They sell two models, one is automatic and the other is not. Leo ------------------------------ > Hi > > > Don, where did you get that zapper? > > Christel > > >>>>>>>>>> > > I bought it from Self Help which is run by Geoff , Huldas son. > > Don > > > > > The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 << " She " doesn't sell zappers, nor does she call them anything. The zapper delux I believe is sold by Amrein of the Research Ass'n. Leo >> === Leo, the name on my zapper is Dr Zap and it is the Super Zapper De Luxe I ordered from>>.net << Here is the website http://.net/disease/zap_pix.htm Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 Leo, given what we were informed of earlier, it sounds like H.C. updates her zappers periodically. So how can we tell. Remember the harmonics discussion? But if the one he is using was purchased from her 4 months ago, it must be the latest. CB. Re: Zappers > Don, could you give us the model #? They sell two models, one is > automatic and the other is not. > Leo > ------------------------------ > > > Hi > > > > > Don, where did you get that zapper? > > > Christel > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > I bought it from Self Help which is run by Geoff , Huldas son. > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and > ignorance. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Just a reminder...the sites named .com and .net are not sites directly run by Dr. . She doesn't do that. They are sites that have products and knowledge related to Dr. and they use her name. There are no sites that are directly run by Dr. CLark - although she contributes messages to them from time to time. (the save.com site and Amreins' sites for instance). Jan Bolen --- Christelti@... wrote: > > > << I bought it from Self Help which is run by Geoff > , Huldas son. > > Don >> > ==== > I bought mine from DR s site. I am sure they > are the same. I have had > mine about 8 month but it is called Dr Zap. It's > what she calls the Super > Zapper De Luxe, price was $ 150.00 > Christel > PS: > Did not do a thing for my skin cancer. > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 It is Geoff who updates the models, not H.C. The manual model is now called B-5. It just goes on and off by manual switch, has copper hand holds. The automatic one is called A-4. It is more expensive, and comes with wrist bands. So, Don, does yours have wrist bands or copper hand holds? Leo ----------------------------- > > > Hi > > > > > > > Don, where did you get that zapper? > > > > Christel > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > I bought it from Self Help which is run by Geoff , Huldas son. > > > > > > Don > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and > > ignorance. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 " She " doesn't sell zappers, nor does she call them anything. The zapper delux I believe is sold by Amrein of the Research Ass'n. Leo ---------------------------------- > > > << I bought it from Self Help which is run by Geoff , Huldas son. > > Don >> > ==== > I bought mine from DR s site. I am sure they are the same. I have had > mine about 8 month but it is called Dr Zap. It's what she calls the Super > Zapper De Luxe, price was $ 150.00 > Christel > PS: > Did not do a thing for my skin cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Then you bought it from Amrein. Leo ------------ > > > << " She " doesn't sell zappers, nor does she call them anything. The > zapper delux I believe is sold by Amrein of the Research > Ass'n. > Leo >> > === > Leo, the name on my zapper is Dr Zap and it is the Super Zapper De Luxe I > ordered from>>.net << > Here is the website > http://.net/disease/zap_pix.htm > Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 << Then you bought it from Amrein. Leo >> == Leo, the point of whose sight it was is not the issue. What I was trying to find out from Don was the difference between mine and his zapper.By looking at the site it sounds like it but unfortunately this site only gives you price and order number without further details. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Having the hands free is a definite plus. One would think that holding the copper tubes for minutes wouldn't be much of a hassle, but , there's so much to do. CB. Re: Re: Zappers Hi Leo So, Don, does yours have wrist bands or copper hand holds?>>>>>>>>>Mine have wrist bands that work very well. One little machine has travelled with me around the world and back and I like the convenience of using its automatic timing and shutoff.DonThe two most abundant elements in the universe are Carbon and ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Leo, Yeh, Yeh, but Geoff is working on her behalf. The previous discussion on the list sounded like there had been several versions of zapper other hand held tubes and wristbands. Surely you remember the harmonics discussion. CB. Re: Zappers > It is Geoff who updates the models, not H.C. The manual model is > now called B-5. It just goes on and off by manual switch, has copper > hand holds. > > The automatic one is called A-4. It is more expensive, and comes with > wrist bands. So, Don, does yours have wrist bands or copper hand > holds? > Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 No, Geoff does not work on Dr. 's behalf. If he did, that would be the same as Dr. doing it herself. Leo ----------------------------------- > Leo, Yeh, Yeh, but Geoff is working on her behalf. The previous discussion > on the list sounded like there had been several versions of zapper other > hand held tubes and wristbands. Surely you remember the harmonics > discussion. CB. > > Re: Zappers > > > > It is Geoff who updates the models, not H.C. The manual model is > > now called B-5. It just goes on and off by manual switch, has copper > > hand holds. > > > > The automatic one is called A-4. It is more expensive, and comes with > > wrist bands. So, Don, does yours have wrist bands or copper hand > > holds? > > Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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