Re: Dilated Myocardiopathy

[Guest guest]

A form of cardiomyopathy involving enlargement of the chambers

of the heart without a corresponding increase in heart muscle leaving

the walls of hte heart stretched weak and subject to failure.

Human Growth Hormone 14 iu for 3 months.

Magnesium

CoQ10 250 mg per day.

Running increases the risk of this problem, as does weight lifting.

There is a greater risk of heart attack.

jp

Dilated Myocardiopathy

Hi all.

I have a close friend suffering a dilated myocardiopathy and we want

to know if there is any alternative approach to improve and/or reverse

this condition.

Thanks in advance.

Victor

[Guest guest]

Victor, this is a progressive disorder

that usually involved enlargement of the heart with subsequent lessening of

function. The earlier he was diagnosed the better the outcome usually. I’m

sure Don and others will be able to tell you more, but I would really research

any new medication (natural or otherwise) for contraindications against each

other before doing anything. Also, if he can see a nutritionist that would be a

great step in the right direction. Diet could go a long way to helping him live

longer. Starting with a small amount of cayenne tincture or tablets daily and

working his way up should not interfere with anything he may be taking and

would improve his vasculature. Hope this helps.

Janet

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Dilated Myocardiopathy

Hi all.

I have a close friend suffering a dilated myocardiopathy and we want

to know if there is any alternative approach to improve and/or reverse

this condition.

Thanks in advance.

Victor

[Guest guest]

Thank for your response.

What could be the appropiate magnesiun dose?

What about the following medication that he is taking for about 5 month?

coreg 12mg daily

lasix 40mg daily

cumadin 5mg 1 daily

trental (pentoxicilina) 40 mg 1 daily.

Can be used simultaneously with your suggested therapy?

Victor

>

> A form of cardiomyopathy involving enlargement of the chambers

> of the heart without a corresponding increase in heart muscle leaving

> the walls of hte heart stretched weak and subject to failure.

> Human Growth Hormone 14 iu for 3 months.

> Magnesium

> CoQ10 250 mg per day.

> Running increases the risk of this problem, as does weight lifting.

> There is a greater risk of heart attack.

> jp

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In addition to growth hormone, hawthorne berry might be considered. It

is proven medically to increase heart muscle strength.

Also, if growth hormone is not an option due to $ or lack of

prescription, colostrum might be considered. It worked better for my

mother than the growth hormone injections she had done for a year. Her

doctors tests showed no improvement in heart function (enlarged heart)

on growth hormone, though she felt profoundly better on it. When she

switched to colostrum and stopped growth hormone she felt even better

and eight months later her heart test 14-17% stronger and it had

decreased in size, which was desirable.

http://www.immunetree.com and click on research and click on link

related to heart issues.

http://www.excellentthings.com for best price. Also for magnesium orotate

I highly recommend growth hormone, it saved my mom's life, but when she

could no longer afford it, and she tried colostrum, she and I were

shocked that she did even better on it than on the growth hormone. Just

wanted to state that it is a powerful option.

Secretagogues would also work for some people. IE, things that cause

the body to release more of it's own growth hormone. As we age out

pituitary gets stingy and doesn't release as much as it used to. It

produces the same amount, but releases less. A secretagogue is anything

that causes it to let go of more youthful levels of growth hormone.

l glutamine

l lysine

l argine are all secretagogues.

" Grow Young With Hgh " is a great introduction to growth hormone and it's

benefits for the heart. I highly recommend it.

With a prescription, growth hormone can be purchased in Mexican

pharmacies for substantially less than in the US and it is the same as

what is sold in the us. Eli Lilly.

benfotiamine is also beneficial for the heart and increases ejection

fraction. http://www.-beyond-a-century.com has good product at best price.

Also for the heart. . .l taurine. The heart has high l taurine levels

and so l taurine supports the heart fantastically and is inexpensive.

co-q-10, as mentioned, is also profound for the heart. The highest

concentration of co-q-10 in the body is in the heart. Some medications

reduce the level of co-q-10 in the heart. specifically meds to lower

cholesterol. So they lower your cholesterol but give you heart disease

by draining the co-q-10 from the heart. 300-400 mgs is what I have

seen recommended. I have searched high and low and it seems that

Walmart has the best price on this product. If someone else has found a

better price, let me know. Theirs is Q-sorb, which is supposed to be

the best and their price is really low.

Inflammation is probably an issue. Serrapeptase is profound for

that. http://www.excellentthings.com

I would wonder, also, what the original cause was. Virus? Bacteria?

Fungi? And I would take steps to make sure the originating factors were

eliminated. Olive leaf extract handily eliminates all of these cooties,

as does dmso or oregano oil.

Blessings

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

boy wrote:

>

> A form of cardiomyopathy involving enlargement of the chambers

> of the heart without a corresponding increase in heart muscle leaving

> the walls of hte heart stretched weak and subject to failure.

> Human Growth Hormone 14 iu for 3 months.

> Magnesium

> CoQ10 250 mg per day.

> Running increases the risk of this problem, as does weight lifting.

> There is a greater risk of heart attack.

> jp

>

> Dilated Myocardiopathy

>

> Hi all.

>

> I have a close friend suffering a dilated myocardiopathy and we want

> to know if there is any alternative approach to improve and/or reverse

> this condition.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Victor

>

>

[Guest guest]

I got my info off a research program but

Donna's additional suggestions are great.

jp

In addition to growth hormone, hawthorne berry might be considered. It

is proven medically to increase heart muscle strength.

Also, if growth hormone is not an option due to $ or lack of

prescription, colostrum might be considered. It worked better for my

mother than the growth hormone injections she had done for a year. Her

doctors tests showed no improvement in heart function (enlarged heart)

on growth hormone, though she felt profoundly better on it. When she

switched to colostrum and stopped growth hormone she felt even better

and eight months later her heart test 14-17% stronger and it had

decreased in size, which was desirable.

http://www.immunetree.com and click on research and click on link

related to heart issues.

http://www.excellentthings.com for best price. Also for magnesium orotate

I highly recommend growth hormone, it saved my mom's life, but when she

could no longer afford it, and she tried colostrum, she and I were

shocked that she did even better on it than on the growth hormone. Just

wanted to state that it is a powerful option.

Secretagogues would also work for some people. IE, things that cause

the body to release more of it's own growth hormone. As we age out

pituitary gets stingy and doesn't release as much as it used to. It

produces the same amount, but releases less. A secretagogue is anything

that causes it to let go of more youthful levels of growth hormone.

l glutamine

l lysine

l argine are all secretagogues.

" Grow Young With Hgh " is a great introduction to growth hormone and it's

benefits for the heart. I highly recommend it.

With a prescription, growth hormone can be purchased in Mexican

pharmacies for substantially less than in the US and it is the same as

what is sold in the us. Eli Lilly.

benfotiamine is also beneficial for the heart and increases ejection

fraction. http://www.-beyond-a-century.com has good product at best price.

Also for the heart. . .l taurine. The heart has high l taurine levels

and so l taurine supports the heart fantastically and is inexpensive.

co-q-10, as mentioned, is also profound for the heart. The highest

concentration of co-q-10 in the body is in the heart. Some medications

reduce the level of co-q-10 in the heart. specifically meds to lower

cholesterol. So they lower your cholesterol but give you heart disease

by draining the co-q-10 from the heart. 300-400 mgs is what I have

seen recommended. I have searched high and low and it seems that

Walmart has the best price on this product. If someone else has found a

better price, let me know. Theirs is Q-sorb, which is supposed to be

the best and their price is really low.

Inflammation is probably an issue. Serrapeptase is profound for

that. http://www.excellentthings.com

I would wonder, also, what the original cause was. Virus? Bacteria?

Fungi? And I would take steps to make sure the originating factors were

eliminated. Olive leaf extract handily eliminates all of these cooties,

as does dmso or oregano oil.

Blessings

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

boy wrote:

>

> A form of cardiomyopathy involving enlargement of the chambers

> of the heart without a corresponding increase in heart muscle leaving

> the walls of hte heart stretched weak and subject to failure.

> Human Growth Hormone 14 iu for 3 months.

> Magnesium

> CoQ10 250 mg per day.

> Running increases the risk of this problem, as does weight lifting.

> There is a greater risk of heart attack.

> jp

>

> Dilated Myocardiopathy

>

> Hi all.

>

> I have a close friend suffering a dilated myocardiopathy and we want

> to know if there is any alternative approach to improve and/or reverse

> this condition.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Victor

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzi

Thanks four your help.

My friend is taking for about 5 months the following medications.

coreg 12mg daily

lasix 40mg daily

cumadin 5mg daily

trental (pentoxicilina) 40 mg 1 daily

We are not seeing any improvement in his condition and are afraid

about side effects.

Thank you again

Victor

[Guest guest]

You're welcome.. I'll check these drugs out tonite.. Meanwhile... how is your friend's diet? foods, drinks, etc..? SuziVictor Valdez <vivaldez@...> wrote: Hi SuziThanks four your help.My friend is taking for about 5 months the following medications.coreg 12mg dailylasix 40mg dailycumadin 5mg dailytrental (pentoxicilina) 40 mg 1 dailyWe are not seeing any improvement in his condition and are afraidabout side effects.Thank you againVictor

[Guest guest]

Nope, 14 was right, however, this was research, and for example, I've seen

them list amounts of DHEA and Pregnenolone up to 600 mg a day which I

would never recommend, so you are right about a more appropriate dose, imo.

Thanks for the heads up.

jp

> JP, a normal dose of HGH is about 1 IU daily. Perhaps you have a

> typo below and it should read 1.4 IU?? I think 14 IU daily will

> reliably cause unwanted effect such as joint swelling and all

> that, and I think it would be hard to get a doctor to give a

> prescription for that much.

>

> I agree with the therapy but we use SomaLife gHP amino acids,

> which unlike shots do not overpower the natural feedback

> mechanism so does not allow more than 100% of normal HGH levels.

>

> Duncan

>

>> On 27 Jul 2006 at 2:38, oxyplus wrote:

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>> > A form of cardiomyopathy involving enlargement of the chambers

>> > of the heart without a corresponding increase in heart muscle

>> > leaving the walls of hte heart stretched weak and subject to

>> > failure. Human Growth Hormone 14 iu for 3 months. Magnesium CoQ10

>> > 250 mg per day. Running increases the risk of this problem, as does

>> > weight lifting. There is a greater risk of heart attack. jp

>> >

>> >

>

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[Guest guest]

I don't think there should be any interactions between these and capsicum (cayenne) and raw garlic. I would start taking these two herbs, along with taking echinacea to boost the immune system if I were in your friends place. and again put myself on a strictly raw diet. This is what I would do if it were me and as I improved would ween myself off the drugs... but you may want to check with your dr also. Also drink plenty of waterVictor Valdez <vivaldez@...> wrote: Hi SuziThanks four your help.My friend is taking for about 5 months the following medications.coreg 12mg dailylasix 40mg dailycumadin 5mg dailytrental (pentoxicilina) 40 mg 1 dailyWe are not seeing any improvement in his condition and are afraidabout side

effects.Thank you againVictor

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Hi Donna

Thanks for your response.

What dose of collostrum did your mother used?

Victor

> >

> > A form of cardiomyopathy involving enlargement of the chambers

> > of the heart without a corresponding increase in heart muscle leaving

> > the walls of hte heart stretched weak and subject to failure.

> > Human Growth Hormone 14 iu for 3 months.

> > Magnesium

> > CoQ10 250 mg per day.

> > Running increases the risk of this problem, as does weight lifting.

> > There is a greater risk of heart attack.

> > jp

> >

> > Dilated Myocardiopathy

> >

> > Hi all.

> >

> > I have a close friend suffering a dilated myocardiopathy and we want

> > to know if there is any alternative approach to improve and/or reverse

> > this condition.

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Victor

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

3 caps a.m. and p.m. of Immune Tree. http://www.excellentthings.com

You want pure colostrum and not colostrum mixed with milk. Also you

want organic. Immune tree is both.

Blessings

Donna

Victor Valdez wrote:

>

> Hi Donna

> Thanks for your response.

> What dose of collostrum did your mother used?

> Victor

>