Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 I also have knee pain and was wondering about it. I saw several posts on the surfacehippy e-mail list indicating other folks with bad hips had knee pain that went away after their hip surgery. It might be that we're compensating for the bad hip and thus straining the knee muscles and ligaments. Sounds logical . . . Caveat: I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 Actually, one of the nerves that goes to the hip has a branch that goes down the quadriceps muscle and to the knee. Often when the hip is irritated, as with surgery or trauma, or joint disease, that nerve stays irritated and you "feel" the pain in the knee and lateral thigh area. Sometimes it is relieved by an injection in the hip area, and sometimes it needs the hip to problem to be resolved. I just had an orthopedist explain this in a meeting last week. Marilyn Re: swollen knee I also have knee pain and was wondering about it. I saw several posts on the surfacehippy e-mail list indicating other folks with bad hips had knee pain that went away after their hip surgery. It might be that we're compensating for the bad hip and thus straining the knee muscles and ligaments. Sounds logical . . .Caveat: I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Seems that sitting in a car or plane for long periods of time is unhealthy even if you don't hae knee problems. Apparently it can lead to blood clots... My rule for long car trips is to take every opportunity to get out and walk around. I don't make special stops for this but instead use every opportunity at stops we are making anyway. For example if we stop for gas, I always get one and walk around even if someone else takes charge of filling the tank. And if we stop to get fast food, I always go inside rather then using the drive-up window, even if we will be eating on the road. BTW, I did a mountain last weekend that you may be familier with, Ann -- Mt. Conness via the W. Ridge. The drive was 13 hours roundtrip. > So here I am 7 mo post-op (torn lat. meniscus, CP), was doing fine (with knee tape) -- did have that incident where I stepped through unsupported snow & bruised or tore my medial meniscus, but that hasn't been a problem so far -- and now I'm on a trip. I drove 750 miles to get here, have been here a little over a week, and have been spending most days driving around looking for property (my son lives here), and one day took a 5-hr trip (it was only 150 miles but traffic was what we call " GAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! " ) to see my cousin. Anyway, my knee's been feeling tightish, and yesterday I looked at it & it's all swollen (proximal, somewhat lateral, pretty much where the quad meets the kneecap). It doesn't hurt, it's just swollen. Obviously, sitting in a car isn't what it wants. Guess I'm going to have to take time out for a walk or two. Lesson #345. > > Ann > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 I went for along walk (with tape) yesterday & iced & am icing this morning. The swelling was down quite a bit overnight. Should have iced earlier but didn't bring ice packs & hate using cubes. I'm sure it'll all get better after I get home (10 hr drive tomorrow). No, I'm not familiar w/Mt. Conness. I'm not familiar w/anything below Carson Pass, although did climb some mountains in the San s, but was with someone who was familiar with them, so just went along blindly. Hope you had a good trek. Ann Re: Swollen knee Seems that sitting in a car or plane for long periods of time is unhealthy even if you don't hae knee problems. Apparently it can lead to blood clots... My rule for long car trips is to take every opportunity to get out and walk around. I don't make special stops for this but instead use every opportunity at stops we are making anyway. For example if we stop for gas, I always get one and walk around even if someone else takes charge of filling the tank. And if we stop to get fast food, I always go inside rather then using the drive-up window, even if we will be eating on the road. BTW, I did a mountain last weekend that you may be familier with, Ann -- Mt. Conness via the W. Ridge. The drive was 13 hours roundtrip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Gel ice packs are nice, but if you carry sandwich size zip-lock bags hyou can pick up ice at any gas station convenience store and have an instant ice pack on the road. Most clerks will let you take ice from the soda machine for free for an ice pack. Conness is near Tuolumne Meadows in Yosemite. > I went for along walk (with tape) yesterday & iced & am icing this morning. The swelling was down quite a bit overnight. Should have iced earlier but didn't bring ice packs & hate using cubes. I'm sure it'll all get better after I get home (10 hr drive tomorrow). > > No, I'm not familiar w/Mt. Conness. I'm not familiar w/anything below Carson Pass, although did climb some mountains in the San s, but was with someone who was familiar with them, so just went along blindly. Hope you had a good trek. > > Ann > Re: Swollen knee > > > Seems that sitting in a car or plane for long periods of time is > unhealthy even if you don't hae knee problems. Apparently it can lead > to blood clots... > > My rule for long car trips is to take every opportunity to get out > and walk around. I don't make special stops for this but instead use > every opportunity at stops we are making anyway. For example if we > stop for gas, I always get one and walk around even if someone else > takes charge of filling the tank. And if we stop to get fast food, I > always go inside rather then using the drive-up window, even if we > will be eating on the road. > > BTW, I did a mountain last weekend that you may be familier with, > Ann -- Mt. Conness via the W. Ridge. The drive was 13 hours > roundtrip. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Oh, Ann, I'm sorry! Poor Ann! It seems walking, standing & sitting are all bad. This leaves lying down. What kind of job can I do lying down all day? Don't answer that! I hope it's better now. > So here I am 7 mo post-op (torn lat. meniscus, CP), was doing fine (with knee tape) -- did have that incident where I stepped through unsupported snow & bruised or tore my medial meniscus, but that hasn't been a problem so far -- and now I'm on a trip. I drove 750 miles to get here, have been here a little over a week, and have been spending most days driving around looking for property (my son lives here), and one day took a 5-hr trip (it was only 150 miles but traffic was what we call " GAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! " ) to see my cousin. Anyway, my knee's been feeling tightish, and yesterday I looked at it & it's all swollen (proximal, somewhat lateral, pretty much where the quad meets the kneecap). It doesn't hurt, it's just swollen. Obviously, sitting in a car isn't what it wants. Guess I'm going to have to take time out for a walk or two. Lesson #345. > > Ann > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Fieber wrote: > Hi > > Any suggestions for a person with a very swollen knee and a possible > meniscus tear to the tendon. No X-ray has been taken. Swelling times > 2 weeks, wearing a knee brace and unable to bear much weight. So far, > ice alternating with heat, elevation and rest. > > ========================= Keep the person on their back, in bed, no ice, no heat and just let them rest eating only fresh raw fruits and tender leafy greens. The body knows best how to heal itself. This person should not be walking. The swelling is indication that the body is attempting the healing of whatever may be damaged. Now of course, if the person cannot spend the time allowing nature to heal it perfectly then said person is just going to have to suffer through whatever the medicos suggest or the pseudo-medicos. Yes the person will be up and running around again in no time but somewhere down the road that knee will be their undoing. Just my suggestions. Don Quai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Any suggestions for a person with a very swollen knee and a possible meniscus tear to the tendon. I had that and, after 3 months of living with it, had to have surgery. The swelling and pain eventually went down but from continued walking on it, the meniscus tore completely and the pieces got stuck in my kneecap. After awhile I couldn't straighten my leg. Mine didn't show up on an x-ray but showed up on an MRI. Don't know any natural cures for something like that. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 suffer through whatever the medicos suggest or the pseudo-medicos. Yes the person will be up and running around again in no time but somewhere down the road that knee will be their undoing. I don't know, Don. I had the surgery over 15 years ago and the knee has never bothered me since. The doctor who performed the operation said the pieces of the ripped meniscus were jammed inside the back of my kneecap and I couldn't even straighten my leg. It was the first time I had been to a doctor in 15 years but I don't regret getting the operation. No problems since. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Don I agree this by far is the best healing method. Getting this person on their back will be a big challenge. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Don Eitner " <mysticalherbalist@...> <health > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Swollen Knee > Fieber wrote: > > Hi > > > > Any suggestions for a person with a very swollen knee and a possible > > meniscus tear to the tendon. No X-ray has been taken. Swelling times > > 2 weeks, wearing a knee brace and unable to bear much weight. So far, > > ice alternating with heat, elevation and rest. > > > > > ========================= > Keep the person on their back, in bed, no ice, no heat and just let them > rest eating only fresh raw fruits and tender leafy greens. The body > knows best how to heal itself. This person should not be walking. The > swelling is indication that the body is attempting the healing of > whatever may be damaged. Now of course, if the person cannot spend the > time allowing nature to heal it perfectly then said person is just going > to have to suffer through whatever the medicos suggest or the > pseudo-medicos. Yes the person will be up and running around again in no > time but somewhere down the road that knee will be their undoing. > > Just my suggestions. > > Don Quai > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Hi , I can tell you what helped me. Take mega doses of MSM, Apply Bone Flesh & Cartlidge to the area with DMSO daily even twice a day. Also take organic calcium and organic iron. I was also taking Complete Nutrition every day. I rarely have any problems with my knee now.. It was a slight tear.. I did the same thing with the other knee which had arthritis under the knee cap and a lateral release.. (had to have surgery on that one ) but after the fluid keep building... I did this and it left and seldom have any pain with it now. Suzi PS Sometimes I would wear a brace if I was going to be on it alot. Fieber <pfieber@...> wrote: Hi Any suggestions for a person with a very swollen knee and a possible meniscus tear to the tendon. No X-ray has been taken. Swelling times 2 weeks, wearing a knee brace and unable to bear much weight. So far, ice alternating with heat, elevation and rest. New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 It is actually Dr. s (from the files) and you can make your own.Bone, Flesh and Cartilage (BF & C) - Dr - "School of Natural Healing" (may be used in conjunction with Deep Tissue Repair Oil) 6 parts Comfrey Root 6 parts Oak Bark 3 parts Gravel Root 3 parts Mullein 1 part Lobelia 2 parts Wormwood 3 parts Marshmallow Root 1 parts Skullcap 2 parts Walnut Bark This is an aid for malfunction in bone, flesh, cartilage, and is excellent for varicose veins, sprains, curvature of the spine, tremors, skin eruptions, pulled muscles, blood clots, calcium spurs etc. Soak the herb combination in distilled water ( at the rate of one ounce of combined herbs to a pint of distilled water), four to six hours then simmer for thirty minutes, strain and reduce the liquid down to its volume by simmering over low heat. (To retard spoilage of large batches, add vegetable glycerine. Example: one gallon of tea simmered ( not boiled) down to two quarts and add one pint of glycerine.) Soak flannel, cotton or any natural material cloth in the solution - never use synthetics. Wrap the fomentation ( soaked cloth) around the malfuntioning area and cover with plastic to keep it from drying out. Leave on all night six mights a week, week after week until relief appears.Remember to get pharmacutical DMSO. Fieber <pfieber@...> wrote: Hi Suzi Thanks for the help. Where would I get Bone Flesh & Cartlidge? Is that a Schultze product? I can get the rest of the ingredients. Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ http://360./suziesgoats Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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