Re: Re: Newborn with Tenesmus, Help Please!

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Eibhlin, also one more note. Try changing her formula. I did not breastfeed my son and went through so many trying to rectify many of his issues. I researched tenesmus and it just did not "jive" with an infant but then again I am certainly no MD. I would be very cautious with giving herbs at such a tender young age. I would change the juice and the formula first if it were me but that is just ME.

Again, good luck!

Blessings,

Tone

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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:10 PM

Subject: Re: Newborn with Tenesmus, Help Please!

I've brought her to the doctor several times and he says it is not constipation because her stool is soft and not hard at all. Her problem is when it is time to have a bowel movement, she strains and strains and cry's a lot and it still doesn't move until going through this many times through the day and sometimes she doesn't poo until the next day. I give her 2-4 oz of water dilluted with apple juice each day (sometimes less if she refuses to drink it) The doctor has me giving Caro syrup in her formula and that is suppose to her but it does not. Eibhlin> > >My baby girl is only 1 month old she suffer's with pain and> >straining when trying to have a bowl movement, she is only having a> >bowel movement once every day or two.. the doctor call's it Tenesmus.> >She is on Enfamile Lipil and has been on Gentelease formula's which> >didn't make a difference in her pain.. I am looking for help in> >finding a natural way to help her to be healed from this pain she> >suffers. I've read about Dr. Schulze's Intestinal Formula #3 and have> >bought some a few days ago but am not sure if I should use this on my> >baby. Has anyone here every used this Formula on their baby and did> >it work? I don't want to cause her any more pain.. I am praying> >someone knows something about this Tenesmus and can help me to find a> >way to put a stop to her pain.. Help please!> >Eibhlin>

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At only one month old why on earth isn't this child being breastfed? That

would solve all her problems, I'm sure. At this age she doesn't need water

or apple juice -- ESPECIALLY Caro syrup!! -- or anything, just pure and

natural mother's milk.

Sharyn

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> I give her 2-4 oz of water dilluted with apple juice

> each day (sometimes less if she refuses to drink it) The

> doctor has me giving Caro syrup in her formula and that is

> suppose to her but it does not.

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Sharyn E. Cerniglia wrote:

> At only one month old why on earth isn't this child being breastfed? That

> would solve all her problems, I'm sure. At this age she doesn't need water

> or apple juice -- ESPECIALLY Caro syrup!! -- or anything, just pure and

> natural mother's milk.

>

> Sharyn

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Thank you Sharyn, I agree with you 100%. No baby should be fed anything

other than mother's milk if at all possible.

Don

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Children's Health—Recipes for Homemade Baby Formula Many of the ingredients for these recipes are available from Radiant Life, 888-593-8333, www.4radiantlife.com

MILK-BASED FORMULA Makes 36 ounces

Our milk-based formula takes account of the fact that human milk is richer in whey, lactose, vitamin C, niacin, and long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids compared to cow's milk but leaner in casein (milk protein). The addition of gelatin to cow's milk formula will make it more digestible for the infant. Use only truly expeller-expressed oils in the formula recipes, otherwise they may lack vitamin E. The ideal milk for baby, if he cannot be breastfed, is clean, whole raw milk from old-fashioned cows, certified free of disease, that feed on green pasture. For sources of good quality milk, see www.realmilk.com or contact a local chapter of the Weston A. Price Foundation.

If the only choice available to you is commercial milk, choose whole milk, preferably organic and unhomogenized, and culture it with a piima or kefir culture to restore enzymes (available from G.E.M. Cultures 707-964-2922).

2 cups whole milk, preferably unprocessed milk from pasture-fed cows

1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below) 4 tablespoons lactose*

1 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis**

2 or more tablespoons good quality cream (not ultrapasteurized), more if you are using milk from Holstein cows 1 teaspoon regular dose cod liver oil or 1/2 teaspoon high-vitamin cod liver oil*

1 teaspoon expeller-expressed sunflower oil*

1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil*

2 teaspoons coconut oil*

2 teaspoons Frontier brand nutritional yeast flakes*

2 teaspoons gelatin* 1 7/8 cups filtered water 1/4 teaspoon acerola powder* *Available from Radiant Life 888-593-8333

**Available from Natren 800-992-3323 or Radiant Life 888-593-8333

Add gelatin to water and heat gently until gelatin is dissolved. Place all ingredients in a very clean glass or stainless steel container and mix well. To serve, pour 6 to 8 ounces into a very clean glass bottle, attach nipple and set in a pan of simmering water. Heat until warm but not hot to the touch, shake bottle well and feed baby. (Never, never heat formula in a microwave oven!) Note: If you are using the Lact-Aid, mix all ingredients well in a blender.) Variation: Goat Milk Formula Although goat milk is rich in fat, it must be used with caution in infant feeding as it lacks folic acid and is low in vitamin B12, both of which are essential to the growth and development of the infant. Inclusion of nutritional yeast to provide folic acid is essential. To compensate for low levels of vitamin B12, if preparing the Milk-Based Formula (above) with goat's milk, add 2 teaspoons frozen organic raw chicken liver, finely grated to the batch of formula. Be sure to begin egg-yolk feeding at four months.

LIVER-BASED FORMULA

Makes about 36 ounces

Our liver-based formula also mimics the nutrient profile of mother's milk. It is extremely important to include coconut oil in this formula as it is the only ingredient that provides the special medium-chain saturated fats found in mother's milk. As with the milk-based formula, all oils should be truly expeller-expressed.

3 3/4 cups homemade beef or chicken broth 2 ounces organic liver, cut into small pieces

5 tablespoons lactose* 1 teaspoon bifidobacterium infantis**

1/4 cup homemade liquid whey (See recipe for whey, below)

1 tablespoon coconut oil* 1 teaspoon cod liver oil or 1/2 teaspoon high-vitamin cod liver oil* 1 teaspoon unrefined sunflower oil* 2 teaspoons extra virgin olive oil 1 teaspoon acerola powder *Available from Radiant Life 888-593-8333

**Available from Natren 800-992-3323

Simmer liver gently in broth until the meat is cooked through. Liquefy using a handheld blender or in a food processor. When the liver broth has cooled, stir in remaining ingredients. Store in a very clean glass or stainless steel container. To serve, stir formula well and pour 6 to 8 ounces in a very clean glass bottle. Attach a clean nipple and set in a pan of simmering water until formula is warm but not hot to the touch, shake well and feed to baby. (Never heat formula in a microwave oven!)

FORTIFIED COMMERCIAL FORMULA

Makes about 35 ounces

This stopgap formula can be used in emergencies, or when the ingredients for homemade formula are unavailable. 1 cup Mead low-iron, milk-based powdered formula 29 ounces filtered water (3 5/8 cups) 1 large egg yolk from an organic egg, cooked 3 1/2 minutes (See recipe for egg yolk, below) 1 teaspoon cod liver oil or 1/2 teaspoon high-vitamin cod liver oil

Place all ingredients in a blender or food processor and blend thoroughly. Place 6-8 ounces in a very clean glass bottle. (Store the rest in a very clean glass jar in the refrigerator for the next feedings.) Attach a clean nipple to the bottle and set in a pan of simmering water until formula is warm but not hot to the touch, shake well and feed to baby. (Never heat formula in a microwave oven!)

EGG YOLK FOR BABY

Egg yolk should be baby's first solid food, starting at 4 months, whether baby is breastfed or formula-fed. Egg yolks from pastured hens will contain the special long-chain fatty acids so critical for the optimal development of the brain and nervous system. The whites may cause an allergic reaction and should not be given to baby until he is at least one year old.

1 organic egg from a pasture-fed hen 1/2 teaspoon grated raw organic liver, frozen for 14 days (optional) Boil egg for 3 1/2 minutes. Place in a bowl and peel off shell. Remove egg white and discard. Yolk should be soft and warm, not hot, with its enzyme content intact. If you wish to add liver, grate on the small holes of a grater while frozen. Allow to warm up and stir into egg yolk.

HOMEMADE WHEY

About 5 cups Homemade whey is easy to make from good quality plain yoghurt, or from raw or cultured milk. You will need a large strainer that rests over a bowl.

If you are using yoghurt, place 2 quarts in the strainer lined with a tea towel. Cover with a plate and leave at room temperature overnight. The whey will drip out into the bowl. Place whey in clean glass jars and store in the refrigerator. If you are using raw or cultured milk, place 2 quarts of the milk in a glass container and leave at room temperature for 2-4 days until the milk separates into curds and whey. Pour into the strainer lined with a tea towel and cover with a plate. Leave at room temperature overnight. The whey will drip out into the bowl. Store in clean glass jars in the refrigerator.

Becky

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Sorry Eib, didn't think of this sooner .... Try Barley water. Barley Formula for BabiesThe foremost reason a baby doesn't do well is poor rations. And toremedy that, here is a formula one can use:15 ounces of barley water10 ounces of homogenized milk3 ounces of corn syrup (As the Romans had honey, 2 ounces of honey maybe used instead of corn syrup, if desired. Do not use lactose [a sugarfound in milk, used in infant foods] as a substitute.) The amount ofsyrup should be varied - depending on the baby - some like it weak -some take it stronger.This formula can be multiplied by any number according to the numberof bottles desired but the ratio remains the same.To make the barley water, put about a half cup of whole barley in apiece of muslin, tie loosely to allow for expansion. It is slowlyboiled in a covered, bented pot not made of aluminum for 61/2 (Note:six and a half -Chris)

hours in about 4 pints of water. (In ventingthe pot, one allows steam to escape either through a vent build in thelid [if there is one] by placing the cover slightly askew so there isan opening between the cover and pot.) Barley water will turn very,very pink. This gives about the right consistency of barley water formaking the formula as above.You don't feed the baby the actual barley, only the water mixed withthe milk and corn syrup, in the ratio as given in the formula above.Do not add anything else to this formula, such as vitamins or cream"to make the formula more nutritious." The formula is as laid outabove.Use this formula and have healthier babies!Eibhlin <eibhlinyah@...> wrote: I agree totally about the formula not being good for her.. I have searched for the raw

goat or cow's milk in my area and can not find anyone who sells it, I will continue to look. I use store bought Organic Cow's milk for my family and I'm wondering since that is all I can get right now if I should start her on the store bought Organic Cow's milk now until I can find the raw milk?? To me it seems like that would be better than the Enfamile. I've read alot on others making Homemade formula using Cow's or Goat's milk, they add alot of other ingredients to the Cow's milk. Do you think I need to add anything to the Cow's milk before giving it to her now?? or will it be ok to give her just the Organic Cow's milk alone? I would like to give her the raw coconut milk but don't know where to even look for that, Where would on buy this?I stopped giving her the Caro Syrup a day or so ago and will not give her anymore apple juice that is store bought. I will invest in a good juicer and start getting the Organic

apples at the store.Shalom,Eibhlin> Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ http://360./suziesgoats

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I thought it wasn't safe to give honey to babies under 2yo. Is this another BS thing the doctors/pharmas have been telling us?

Sharyn

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3 ounces of corn syrup (As the Romans had honey, 2 ounces of honey maybe used instead of corn syrup, if desired.

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Forgot the baby was 1 month (been a bad day)... However, I can't say it is hype for certain... however, it has not been 100% proven either. Here is one website... http://www.fao.org/docrep/w0076e/w0076e06.htm#2.9 I would not use store bought for certain... I guess to be on the side of caution... not below a year... not sure how this would be without the honey. "Sharyn E. Cerniglia" <sharyn.cerniglia@...> wrote: I thought it wasn't safe to give honey to babies under 2yo. Is this another BS thing the doctors/pharmas have

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actually it is "pearl barley" .. try an organic store whole foods or wild oats carry it. try it without the honey. SuziEibhlin <eibhlinyah@...> wrote: Hey Suzi, where would I get Whole Barley from?Eibhlin> I agree totally about the formula not being good for her.. I have > searched for the raw goat or cow's milk in my area and can not find > anyone who sells it, I will continue to look. I use store bought > Organic Cow's milk for my family and I'm wondering since that is all > I can get right now if I should start her on the store bought Organic > Cow's milk now until I can find the raw milk?? To me it seems like > that would be better than the Enfamile. I've read alot on

others > making Homemade formula using Cow's or Goat's milk, they add alot of > other ingredients to the Cow's milk. Do you think I need to add > anything to the Cow's milk before giving it to her now?? or will it > be ok to give her just the Organic Cow's milk alone? I would like to > give her the raw coconut milk but don't know where to even look for > that, Where would on buy this?> I stopped giving her the Caro Syrup a day or so ago and will not give > her anymore apple juice that is store bought. I will invest in a > good juicer and start getting the Organic apples at the store.> Shalom,> Eibhlin> > > > > Suzi > What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. > > > health/ > http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/>

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