Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 1:28:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tahoetreefort@... writes: How do you go about getting a guide dog? At what age does a deaf person qualify for one? It varies from school to school.. i do not think there is any minuium age of deaf person. I have heard of 4 y.o. having one even though the dog was home-taught. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 1:52:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lisak70@... writes: guide dogs and hearing dogs perform very different tasks. ,,, some area DO call hearing dog as guide dog,, WA state is one of them, if you look at the state law, it actually do quote " guide dog for the vision and/or hearing impaired " ,,, so both names are politically correct. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 3:27:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dkl.pearson@... writes: In our area they are called " Working Dogs " wheather they are seeing eye dog hearing dog, companion dog, or any other types funny you said that,, when someone confront me,, i tend to say " my dog is working " .. and that is often all it take. There is no Political Correct ways of saying it,, it all in the locatons. " hearing dog " for some people, do and can sound offensive,, when was last time we hear " seeing dog " ,, i havent for years, same true for " hearing dog " which it is appearently to be fading away. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 5:16:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dkl.pearson@... writes: I guess the dog is guiding them to the noise? from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary 1 a : one that leads or directs another's way b : a person who exhibits and explains points of interest c : something that provides a person with guiding information d : SIGNPOST 1 e : a person who directs another's conduct or course of life Yes, hearing dog DO GUIDE the deaf toward or away from sounds. Meaning is correct. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 >>How do you go about getting a guide dog? At what age does a deaf person qualify for one?<< I think you mean a hearing dog, am I correct? Just wanted to clarify since guide dogs and hearing dogs perform very different tasks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 > >>How do you go about getting a guide dog? At what age does a deaf > person qualify for one?<< > > I think you mean a hearing dog, am I correct? Just wanted to clarify since > guide dogs and hearing dogs perform very different tasks. > > Yes, a hearing dog. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 No problem! <smile> I will leave it up to someone else to answer your question. If you like, I'd be happy to locate the websites of schools who provide this training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 6:55:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lisak70@... writes: What kind of alert/hearing dog do you have? Is it a large breed? mine is a crossbred dingo/german sheppard. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In our area they are called " Working Dogs " wheather they are seeing eye dog hearing dog, companion dog, or any other types -- Re: Guide Dogs In a message dated 10/7/2004 1:52:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lisak70@... writes: guide dogs and hearing dogs perform very different tasks. ,,, some area DO call hearing dog as guide dog,, WA state is one of them, if you look at the state law, it actually do quote " guide dog for the vision and/or hearing impaired " ,,, so both names are politically correct. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 , I have a new puppy. Are there schools that would help me to train her to help me hear better?? With the CI and with HA I've almost be run over in parking lot many times. Localization is so hard. Please be careful. Everyone is always in a hurry. Hehe You such ask your Dr to install a solar polar to run the CI. Gee we could be like " Uncle " with his antennas. Imagine what would be saved on batteries.LOL Wishes of health and happiness to you and your family. D _____ From: Kozlik [mailto:lisak70@...] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Re: Guide Dogs No problem! <smile> I will leave it up to someone else to answer your question. If you like, I'd be happy to locate the websites of schools who provide this training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 7:29:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lisak70@... writes: Are they using larger breeds for alert dogs now? it depends,,, Tanner is dual purpose, one for hearing, another for balance when i lose my balance due to spinal injuires i recieve few years ago. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 ,,, some area DO call hearing dog as guide dog,, WA state is one of them, if you look at the state law, it actually do quote " guide dog for the vision and/or hearing impaired " ,,, so both names are politically correct. Lee, Wow, I didn't know that! This is the first time I've ever heard of both terms being used interchangeably. Thanks for correcting me. <smile> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 7:37:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lisak70@... writes: It's amazing how much these wonderful animals can learn and how much oh Tanner is wonderful,,, when i starts to stray (lose balance),, he stay put and make sure i don't fall. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 There are plenty of people who call Tigger a seeing-eye dog. However, people's stereotypes and misconceptions about service dogs in general has come a long way over the past 5-10 years. There are *always* going to be people who don't know what the proper " politically correct " term is. I don't mind what my dog is called. Just as long as they don't distract or pet her in harness. <grin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 In a message dated 10/7/2004 7:46:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, janet_mueller@... writes: Can I bring my signpost into a restaurant? Janet ROFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Gotta remember, the politicians are clueless. There are a few guide dog schools who do special training for the deafblind, Leader Dogs in Michigan is one. A hearing dog trained for the deaf is not a guide dog, their duties are very different. A guide dog trained for the blind is not a hearing dog. But it is a good idea to use more generic terms such as " working animal " or " service animal " . Most people dont know the difference anyway. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I work 45 hours a week to be this poor. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 , Now I *know* you're reading my mind. Guess which school Tigger was trained at? You're beginning to scare me. What am I going to have for a midnight snack tonight? What am I going to do tomorrow? What book am I going to read on the weekend? ? <grinning> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 That is funny... I heard that " Guide Dog " can be any dogs that guide people ... Such as dog that help the blind, HOH or Deaf and other type of disability a person has that a dog can help assist their partner.. I guess I like " Working Dog " as it seems to cover all gound. Pearson -- Re: Guide Dogs Gotta remember, the politicians are clueless. There are a few guide dog schools who do special training for the deafblind, Leader Dogs in Michigan is one. A hearing dog trained for the deaf is not a guide dog, their duties are very different. A guide dog trained for the blind is not a hearing dog. But it is a good idea to use more generic terms such as " working animal " or " service animal " . Most people dont know the difference anyway. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I work 45 hours a week to be this poor. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 At the risk of splitting hairs, how does an alert/hearing dog " guide " a HoH or Deaf individual? They may pull them out of the path of danger, but this is not technically the act of guiding. At least to me it would seem more appropriate to define them as working, alert, service or hearing dogs. <ducking head to avoid tomatoes> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 I guess I'm splitting hair... Sorry.. What a " hearing dog " does it alert his/her partner/master that the phone is ringing, door is being knock or ring, tea kettle is whistling, alarm going off, etc. It goes to the owner and lead them where the noise is coming from I guess the dog is guiding them to the noise? In the outside world, they dog alert them if there is a car coming in their way, or any other noises ... such as a person coming to them, Sirens of police officers vehical, aid cars, or other emergency vehicle. -- Re: Guide Dogs At the risk of splitting hairs, how does an alert/hearing dog " guide " a HoH or Deaf individual? They may pull them out of the path of danger, but this is not technically the act of guiding. At least to me it would seem more appropriate to define them as working, alert, service or hearing dogs. <ducking head to avoid tomatoes> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Hi Dave, I'm sorry to be so difficult about this. I don't mean to be but I think it's important for people to understand the difference between alerting and guiding. Guiding is the physical act of moving from one place to another. Alerting is the act of notifying/warning someone of danger. You're right -- a hearing dog leads their owner to a sound but he/she does not physically guide them. This is the distinction I was trying to make. If everyone were allowed to loosely create their own definition for what they consider to be a " guide dog " or service animal, we would have all kinds of creatures and critters running around the place. <grin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 I think you are right , I think I will train my cat to be my notifier... mmm... how can I do that without getting bit or scratched. LOL -- Re: Guide Dogs Hi Dave, I'm sorry to be so difficult about this. I don't mean to be but I think it's important for people to understand the difference between alerting and guiding. Guiding is the physical act of moving from one place to another. Alerting is the act of notifying/warning someone of danger. You're right -- a hearing dog leads their owner to a sound but he/she does not physically guide them. This is the distinction I was trying to make. If everyone were allowed to loosely create their own definition for what they consider to be a " guide dog " or service animal, we would have all kinds of creatures and critters running around the place. <grin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Hi Dave, It would probably be a good idea to stock up on plenty of fish and cat nip! LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 , Your explanation better helps me understand how the term guiding applies to alert/hearing dogs -- thanks! I think my misunderstanding stems from the fact that I don't know anything about their training. Can you (or others on the list) recommend any good websites where I can learn more? (The only one I know of is Dogs for the Deaf, Inc.) What kind of alert/hearing dog do you have? Is it a large breed? My previous guide dog was a 65 pound golden retriever (named Sugar), so I *know* what it means to be guided -- or should I say pulled around. LOL! Whenever we took a stroll around the neighborhood, everyone always asked me, " Who's walking who? " A *world* of difference from the 45 pound labby sitting beside me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 Lee, Wow! Are they using larger breeds for alert dogs now? I always thought they used smaller breeds like schnauzers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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