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In a message dated 5/7/03 7:31:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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> Do any of you who have a CI on one ear use

> a HA on the other ear? I

My daughter does and prefers it.

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Sam,

When I had my first implant, I was still able to use my hearing aid

for a short period of time. We knew that I was going to lose what

little I had on the other side eventually, but the surgeon and

audiologist felt that it was a good idea to let me adjust to the CI

with the hearing aid. I wore it for about a month. After that, I

was so adjusted to the CI, I didn't need it any more as it seemed to

hinder the quality of sound the CI gave me.

Since then, I have lost rest of my hearing in the right ear and

developed otosclerosis on the left which required that I turn off

electrodes because of pain from stimulation due to the otosclerosis.

I was bilaterally implanted on my right in March. This has been such

a delightful experience. It enhances the sound on the left so the

two implants are now working in sinc and I don't ever remember

hearing as well as I do now.

You may find that the HA along with the CI is helpful. I do believe

that we have two ears for a reason but I will tell you that the sound

you gain from the CI will be so much better and clearer that you may

find yourself putting the HA away.

Congratulations on your approval and surgery date. We certainly hope

to hear more from you and I'm so glad you decided to post tonight.

Alice

N24 11/99

N24C 04/03

Bilateral

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Hi

my son dosnt but a girl in his grade has a CI and a hearing aid in the other

ear. Her mother told me that it helps her with balance.

regurds

Carol mother of Kristian 9 CI N22

Re: CI Plus HA

> In a message dated 5/7/03 7:31:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> satodd59@... writes:

>

> > Do any of you who have a CI on one ear use

> > a HA on the other ear? I

>

> My daughter does and prefers it.

>

>

>

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  • 3 years later...

Hi, VAnn,

There was a time when most audiologists insisted we not wear our hearing

aid in the unimplanted ear. The theory was that it inhibited or slowed the

rate at which your brain relearned to hear with the CI. These days almost

every audi gives you the choice, with some requesting that you try not using

your

hearing aid for a month or so. Many audis actually encourage the use of the

aid to help you. SO - you'll hear from many here telling you how it went for

them. Some loved getting rid of the hearing aid and found it confused their

learning with the new CI. For me, and others, I'm sure, the hearing aid was a

definate plus in helping me adjust to the CI.

Remember that YOU are the patient, and your hearing aid belongs to YOU,

not your audi. It cannot be taken away from you and they cannot threaten not

to work with you if it makes you uncomfortable. You are paying! (If they do,

change audis!!) If he/she recommends trying without it, fine. But if you

find yourself not wanting to wear your CI because you aren't understanding

speech yet, then by all means, put the aid back on. This is a learning process

and

you will figure out how you learn best. I used to practice listening (tapes,

hubby reading flashcards and paragraphs, etc) and take AVT (Auditory Verbal

therapy) wearing only my CI. For real life I found it impossible to use just

my CI for quite some time. Hope this helps.

:o) Jackie

Implanted - right ear - Oct.2002 - Nucleus 24/3G

Reimplanted - right ear - Jan.2005 - Nucleus 24C/3G

Implanted - left ear - Sept.2005 - Nucleus-Freedom

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My audie did not suggest that I not wear my hearing

aid, however, I was the one who was determined to not

wear it (no more ear mold). From the moment I walked

out of the audie's office on my day of activation one

year ago today I have worn it only sparingly. My

audie tried to get me to wear it but it causes too

much interference for me because my hearing is so bad

in my non implanted ear that I get very little sound

and no speech recognition. I am convinced that my CI

works better because I did not wear my hearing aid.

If you don't want to do it all the time then at least

go without your hearing aid for 50% of the time.

Good luck.

Connie

--- VAnn <v_wb@...> wrote:

> How many of you kept using your HA in your non

> implanted ear while

> learning to use the CI? Is there any data on

> whether it is better to

> use both or go " cold turkey " from the HA? My audie

> is threatening to

> take my HA for 6 months after hook up, but I am

> thinking that if I am

> gonna use both anyway, for some bilateral benefit,

> that I should learn

> to use them together. yea or nea?

>

>

>

>

" The Miracle at Ohio State "

aka Nucleus Freedom

Implanted 10/04/2005

Activated 11/1/2005

Surgery: Ohio State University

Surgeon: Dr. Bradley Welling

http://internalmedicine.osu.edu/article.cfm?ID=2021

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In my opinion, I only wearing CI to acclimate my hearing skills. I

recommend you to just using CD quality player or hear several musics

and you will learn more from it better and better from time to time.

Hearing aid is just a vibrant amplification that still not able to

match anything with your CI. It create more confusion and less

dependent on CI hearing from neural stims itself. CI has a strange bars

across all sounds, I do still hope that HiRes 120 cover that problem.

Waiting for it can be tiring but worth to wear just ONE CI prior to

HiRes 120. You can learn much more after you receive it. Ci is fun to

learn and its like moving from old house to new house with HiRes 120 !!

You hear better as you grow older with newer programming strategies

that other CI rival, Nucleus almost never provide any better due to

its " world most reliable " device. Ignore all HA advice !

Rick F.

In , " VAnn " <v_wb@...> wrote:

>

> How many of you kept using your HA in your non implanted ear while

> learning to use the CI? Is there any data on whether it is better to

> use both or go " cold turkey " from the HA? My audie is threatening to

> take my HA for 6 months after hook up, but I am thinking that if I am

> gonna use both anyway, for some bilateral benefit, that I should learn

> to use them together. yea or nea?

>

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Hi All !

I must say that I agree 100% with 's comments. & I have the

same Audie, so like , I was encouraged to use my HA if it was

providing benefit.

When I was first activated, I used the HA and CI while I was at work,

and only the CI for the rest of the time. I would guess this worked

about to 50% for HA/CI and 50% CI only.

Now at 6 months post activation, I use the HA/CI most of the time,

but still turn off the HA for 1-2 hours a day to keep practicing with

the CI only.

The key thing for me is that I do benefit from the HA, especially in

noisy environments. While I have EXCELLENT scores (88% words, 100%

sentences in quiet and in noise) with my CI alone, by using the HA

with the CI, my score on the SPIN (speech in noise improves from 68%

to 78%). After all, there must be a reason why God gave us 2 ears in

the first place :o)

Music is also more enjoyable, as I hear in stereo now. I have not

yet mastered " localization " , but that is also something that should

be helped with my HA ear.

If my HA no longer give me benefit, I will not use it, but as long as

it is helping me, I will use it.

Regards,

Jim S.

Right ear - AB90K/Auria - hookup 4/25/2006

Left ear - HA

>

> VAnn,

>

> This varies from person to person, but I wore my HA in my

nonimplanted ear

> since the day of my activation. At least in my experience, it did

not make

> learning to understand what I heard through the CI more difficult.

In many

> cases, it enhanced what I heard -- especially during the time that

speech

> and other environmental sounds were still unclear. Eventually

sounds and

> voices became more blended into one thereby creating a fuller,

richer sound.

> One of the things I liked most about using a CI and HA together was

how the

> CI brought in high frequencies while the HA emphasized low

frequencies. This

> especially made listening to music more enjoyable.

>

> Unfortunately, after 6 months of using a HA in my nonimplanted ear,

I found

> that it no longer provided any benefit (i.e. it sounded very

distorted and

> weak compared to the CI). Having said that, I think it's important

to

> mention that this isn't true for everyone who uses a HA in their

> nonimplanted ear. I hope doesn't mind me using her as an

example, but

> she started using a HA in her nonimplanted ear after having her CI

for 5

> years. (, please correct me if I am wrong.) I can still

remember the

> posts she wrote to the list about being able to localize sound and

> understand speech better because of the auditory information that

was

> provided by the HA.

>

> I agree with Carol that it's probably best that you speak to your

audi about

> this. My audi left the choice up to me as to whether or not I

wanted to wear

> a HA right from the start, so that's what I did and I think it was

a good

> decision for me.

>

>

>

> Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with 3G

> Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

>

> Right ear - Nucleus Freedom

> Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06

>

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I have worn a hearing aid in my non implanted ear, with my audi's

consent, right from activation. Even though the hearing aid on its own

is pretty useless to me, I do find that it gives me a better, more

rounded sound, than with the C.I. alone. I will shortly be having the

aid adjusted to work better with the C.I. Some audi's dont like

implantees to wear an aid in the other ear, I suppose its a matter of

choice, because there doesnt seem to be any hard and fast rule about it.

Ted F.

>

> How many of you kept using your HA in your non implanted ear while

> learning to use the CI? Is there any data on whether it is better to

> use both or go " cold turkey " from the HA? My audie is threatening to

> take my HA for 6 months after hook up, but I am thinking that if I am

> gonna use both anyway, for some bilateral benefit, that I should learn

> to use them together. yea or nea?

>

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Rick said, " that other CI rival, Nucleus almost never provide any better due

to

its " world most reliable " device. "

Rick, I prefer to hear about your experience with your CI than to talk about

one you do not have experience with.

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Rick,

I agree with . How would you feel if a Nucleus user said the same thing

about AB? Please, let's not start a brand war here...

Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with 3G

Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

Right ear - Nucleus Freedom

Implanted: 2/1/06 Activated: 3/1/06

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Your comment " ...that other CI rival, Nucleus almost never provide any

better due to its " world most reliable " device. Ignore all HA advice ! " is

out of line. As suggests, you cannot back this up with personal

experience. You cannot say with certainty that Nucleus is no better, no

more than a Nucleus user can say that 120 is no better. For that matter,

you cannot even tell us that 120 is in fact better, you have yet to utilize

it. So when you are programmed with the 120 strategy please do report on

it.

In the meantime, please stick to your own personal experiences with your

device. Thanks.

CI Hear List Moderator

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I can understand why no one individual, unless they are superrich and can

afford to try all of the processors out there, can make judgment calls.

So how does one exploring the subject of ci make an intelligent choice if

given one?

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, wrote:

> ,

> Your comment " ...that other CI rival, Nucleus almost never provide any

> better due to its " world most reliable " device. Ignore all HA advice ! " is

> out of line. As suggests, you cannot back this up with personal

> experience. You cannot say with certainty that Nucleus is no better, no

> more than a Nucleus user can say that 120 is no better. For that matter,

> you cannot even tell us that 120 is in fact better, you have yet to utilize

> it. So when you are programmed with the 120 strategy please do report on

> it.

>

> In the meantime, please stick to your own personal experiences with your

> device. Thanks.

>

>

> CI Hear List Moderator

>

>

>

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Mike,

Er...even I were superrich (i.e., Bill Gates style), I wouldn't try all three

of the companies for the sake of trying them out. It is too painful and too

long of a process and stuff happens when messing too much with the cochlea. It

really is a one shot deal. If one happens to get two CIs (different companies),

then one has a basis to compare those two. Three?!? Well, I have yet to see

anybody with three ears :-)

Your question is a good one. It isn't easy and you just have to go with what

information is available and other's experiences.

Dale

Mike <Mike@...> wrote:

I can understand why no one individual, unless they are superrich and

can

afford to try all of the processors out there, can make judgment calls.

So how does one exploring the subject of ci make an intelligent choice if

given one?

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, wrote:

> ,

> Your comment " ...that other CI rival, Nucleus almost never provide any

> better due to its " world most reliable " device. Ignore all HA advice ! " is

> out of line. As suggests, you cannot back this up with personal

> experience. You cannot say with certainty that Nucleus is no better, no

> more than a Nucleus user can say that 120 is no better. For that matter,

> you cannot even tell us that 120 is in fact better, you have yet to utilize

> it. So when you are programmed with the 120 strategy please do report on

> it.

>

> In the meantime, please stick to your own personal experiences with your

> device. Thanks.

>

>

> CI Hear List Moderator

>

>

>

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