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> Is 1300 the number you got from his BMR calculator?

no. I got that from Hussman's site. I just didn't understand that,

if I take in 1300 calories a day, and I burn an extra 500-1000

calories perday (for a 1-2 lb. a week weightloss), then my body is

burning 1800-2300 calories perday. How am I burning 2300 calories

perday? If I only burn max 500 calories lifting weights, or 300

calories doing my cardio, I have a lot of calories left over to burn

off, and since that exercise is the most strenuous part of my day

where do all the rest of the calories go to?

Carey

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You burn the first 1,300 even if you lie motionless all day. You burn maybe 500

during a strenuous workout. You burn another 500 standing, sitting, walking

dogs, cleaning house, brushing your teeth, driving the car, surfing the

internet.

Here's an activity calculator if you want to check the calorie burn of common

activities:

http://primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/jumpsite/calculat.htm

I once got so carried away with my software that I was entering stuff like " blow

dried hair, standing, 5 minutes " " grocery shopping with cart, 7 minutes "

" housecleaning - light, dusting and laundry. " That's opposed to " housecleaning -

heavy, mopping floors washing windows. "

I broke it all down to that degree. I nearly drove myself and everyone around me

completely insane. My advice? Just take Hussman's word for it. He's right. I

checked it out. :-)

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> Is 1300 the number you got from his BMR calculator?

no. I got that from Hussman's site. I just didn't understand that,

if I take in 1300 calories a day, and I burn an extra 500-1000

calories perday (for a 1-2 lb. a week weightloss), then my body is

burning 1800-2300 calories perday. How am I burning 2300 calories

perday? If I only burn max 500 calories lifting weights, or 300

calories doing my cardio, I have a lot of calories left over to burn

off, and since that exercise is the most strenuous part of my day

where do all the rest of the calories go to?

Carey

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Did you only eat 5 meals? It looks to me like you might be missing

one.

Libby

> what do i do if the number of calories that i need to be eating to

bur

> fat more effectively leaves me feeling ravenous?

>

> stats: 5'9 "

> weight: approx. 155-160

> age 32

>

> here's my food for today:

>

> M1: protein pancake (1/2 c. egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1/2 cup oats, 1

> tbsp. flax oil cooked in PAM)

> M2: Zone bar

> M3: 1 (6 oz) can tuna, 2 tsp. FF mayo, 1 chopped apple

> M4: 3/4 c. LF cottage cheese, 1 c. strawberries

> M5: 4 oz. lamb steak, 1 cup steamed brocolli, 2 boiled new potatoes

>

> from Fitday.com:

> total: 1434

> Fat: 44 28%

> Carbs: 126 31%

> Protein: 141 40%

>

> this is pretty typical - except i usually eat chicken and turkey and

> not lamb - but we have it and we are broke right now so....

>

> and i swear to you i am not losing fat/weight.

> what am i doing wrong?

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I'd ditch the bar IF you aren't having progress. I'd also try carbs

that have more lasting power than fruit, if you are feeling hungry.

On days where I have 2 servings of fruit I seem to be starving. I'd

go for oatmeal, potato, lentils, beans. Also add veggies and/or

salads.

Hope this helps some!

Colleen

> what do i do if the number of calories that i need to be eating to

bur

> fat more effectively leaves me feeling ravenous?

>

> stats: 5'9 "

> weight: approx. 155-160

> age 32

>

> here's my food for today:

>

> M1: protein pancake (1/2 c. egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1/2 cup oats, 1

> tbsp. flax oil cooked in PAM)

> M2: Zone bar

> M3: 1 (6 oz) can tuna, 2 tsp. FF mayo, 1 chopped apple

> M4: 3/4 c. LF cottage cheese, 1 c. strawberries

> M5: 4 oz. lamb steak, 1 cup steamed brocolli, 2 boiled new potatoes

>

> from Fitday.com:

> total: 1434

> Fat: 44 28%

> Carbs: 126 31%

> Protein: 141 40%

>

> this is pretty typical - except i usually eat chicken and turkey and

> not lamb - but we have it and we are broke right now so....

>

> and i swear to you i am not losing fat/weight.

> what am i doing wrong?

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Actually, you're right on target at 1200-1500 calories a day (10-12 x

body weight). You're not overweight so the maximum extreme fat loss

number (8-10 x body weight) is overkill for you. Gaining a little

muscle in addition to fat loss will do great things to your

metabolism, the shape of your body and your ability to stay lean, for

that you need to be closer to 1500. There's no reason to stay under

1200 cals a day unless you like listening to your stomach growl.

If you do have a day or two a week that are very low calorie, 5 meals

will give you a more reasonable portion size. Or, if you do 6 very

small meals, food VOLUME becomes really important. You want great big

salads, loads of berries, big crunchy apples, plates of steamed

vegetables, 6 egg white omelets, giant bowls of soup, foods that are

low in calories but physically big and bulky and filling. If you're

trying to stay full on 200-250 calorie meals, have a big 6 egg white

omelet with vegetables and 2 cups of fresh raspberries. Or a big bowl

of chicken soup and a ginormous spinach salad. Or a steak, a small

potato and an entire plate of steamed vegetables. Meals like those

will leave you feeling very full even though they're low in calories.

A little meal replacement bar will usually leave you starving 10

minutes later.

Bringing the protein up a little and watching the quality of your

carbs will also help to reduce hunger. Meals that are carb heavy tend

to leave you hungry and wanting more carbs. Everyone is a little

different with regard to how many carbs they need in order to get

results but still feel good. I would try to balance things a little

better and see if it makes a difference in your energy level and

progress. You have to go with what actually works for you and not what

looks good on paper or what works for everybody else.

On 8/13/05, snoopywithtwins <snoopywithtwins@...> wrote:

> i added up all my calories for the last two days on fitday... i had

> 1200 one day and 1500 another day...probably a little less b/c i

> couldn't find certain things on there plain..

>

> on one of the blf sites it recommend if wanted to lose some body

> fat/weight i should get no more than 1200... the day i got 1200

> calories i skipped a meal ..only b/c i was too exhausted for my 6th

> meal.... normally i get at least 1500 calories...

>

> so my question is... 6 meals a day at 200 calories each HOW????

>

> i avg 2-300 a meal... my proteins are avg out to around 115-120 a

> day but carbs are more like 175.... is that too much of an

> imbalance?

>

> i am 5'4 and 120 pounds if that helps

>

>

> any suggestions??

>

> thank you

>

> val :)

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--- thanks skwiggs!!! i will try harder to plan out those meals!!

val:)

In , Skwigg <skwigg@g...>

wrote:

> Actually, you're right on target at 1200-1500 calories a day (10-

12 x

> body weight). You're not overweight so the maximum extreme fat loss

> number (8-10 x body weight) is overkill for you. Gaining a little

> muscle in addition to fat loss will do great things to your

> metabolism, the shape of your body and your ability to stay lean,

for

> that you need to be closer to 1500. There's no reason to stay under

> 1200 cals a day unless you like listening to your stomach growl.

>

> If you do have a day or two a week that are very low calorie, 5

meals

> will give you a more reasonable portion size. Or, if you do 6 very

> small meals, food VOLUME becomes really important. You want great

big

> salads, loads of berries, big crunchy apples, plates of steamed

> vegetables, 6 egg white omelets, giant bowls of soup, foods that

are

> low in calories but physically big and bulky and filling. If you're

> trying to stay full on 200-250 calorie meals, have a big 6 egg

white

> omelet with vegetables and 2 cups of fresh raspberries. Or a big

bowl

> of chicken soup and a ginormous spinach salad. Or a steak, a small

> potato and an entire plate of steamed vegetables. Meals like those

> will leave you feeling very full even though they're low in

calories.

> A little meal replacement bar will usually leave you starving 10

> minutes later.

>

> Bringing the protein up a little and watching the quality of your

> carbs will also help to reduce hunger. Meals that are carb heavy

tend

> to leave you hungry and wanting more carbs. Everyone is a little

> different with regard to how many carbs they need in order to get

> results but still feel good. I would try to balance things a little

> better and see if it makes a difference in your energy level and

> progress. You have to go with what actually works for you and not

what

> looks good on paper or what works for everybody else.

>

>

>

>

> On 8/13/05, snoopywithtwins <snoopywithtwins@y...> wrote:

> > i added up all my calories for the last two days on fitday... i

had

> > 1200 one day and 1500 another day...probably a little less b/c i

> > couldn't find certain things on there plain..

> >

> > on one of the blf sites it recommend if wanted to lose some body

> > fat/weight i should get no more than 1200... the day i got 1200

> > calories i skipped a meal ..only b/c i was too exhausted for my

6th

> > meal.... normally i get at least 1500 calories...

> >

> > so my question is... 6 meals a day at 200 calories each

HOW????

> >

> > i avg 2-300 a meal... my proteins are avg out to around 115-120

a

> > day but carbs are more like 175.... is that too much of an

> > imbalance?

> >

> > i am 5'4 and 120 pounds if that helps

> >

> >

> > any suggestions??

> >

> > thank you

> >

> > val :)

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Myssi, What you want to do is actually eat between 1240 and 1680 calories. Doing that alone will give you a weight loss. Then when you get exercise that will just add to the loss. So aim for that calorie intake of 1240-1680. That will put you into the loosing weight arena. The exercise is just icing on the cake. I hope I havent confused you. I am also trying to get the hang of some of this stuff. Food moving is hard for me. I know how to do the calorie counting to a point but staying in my guideline is hard. I think it all just takes time and practice. We will get better at it over time. Good Luck.

Calorie Question

Ok I have a really dumb question. On Calories I am TRYING to eat between 1240 and 1680 calories a day (that was sparkpeoples recomendation) and between 28 and 63 fat grams. So so if I go to the gym and work out for an hour it says I burn about 875 calories am I only getting like 400 calories a day if I eat 1240? Did that make sence?

Or am I supposed to eat say 2000 and then burn of the 875? so I am at 1200+?

I am so lost. lol Any help would be great. Thanks

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It's not a dumb question! It had me confused for the first 6 weeks I

was counting calories! :) What I do is aim for the range and like

said, it's icing on the cake to exercise...but, when I've

exercised hard and find myself hungry in the evening, I will bump up

my intake by 200-400 calories and try to keep it higher protein.

A great place to do activity calorie calculations is

caloriesperhour.com. My doctor recommended that site to calculate how

many calories I need and burn, etc. It's worked well for me thus far.

*shrugs* Just thought I'd throw that in there. :)

-Bonnie

>

> Ok I have a really dumb question. On Calories I am TRYING to eat

between 1240 and 1680 calories a day (that was sparkpeoples

recomendation) and between 28 and 63 fat grams. So so if I go to the

gym and work out for an hour it says I burn about 875 calories am I

only getting like 400 calories a day if I eat 1240? Did that make sence?

> Or am I supposed to eat say 2000 and then burn of the 875? so I am

at 1200+?

> I am so lost. lol Any help would be great. Thanks

>

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Myssi, What is your current weight? In the program that I follow this is how your suppose to eat. Current Weight

Calories 2 Eat Today 300 + Lbs 2100 275 Lbs 1925 250 Lbs 1750 225 Lbs 1575 200 Lbs 1400 175 Lbs 1225 150 Lbs 1125 125 Lbs 1050 Yes, you will still lose weight and any exercise that you do will be a cut in the fat that you need to burn. So if your are burning off 400 calories a day and you work out 5 days a week, then you should be losing

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That sounds like a good plan! Especially if you can have 1925 calories. Myssi <justmyssi@...> wrote: Thanks CAtherine, That does help. It says I should have 1925 so if I stay at 1240 to 1680 I should be good. and if I go over that I wont freak. Thanks!

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Yes it is, But we are all learning together. All of us here have the same problem. We are overweight. None of us are experts or we wouldn't have a problem now would we? LOL. We just have to help each other out the best we can. What works for one may not work for another but we can share our ideas, success's and failures.

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Ok Thanks . That makes sense. I was starting to think I wasnt getting enough and thought maybe I was over doing it. It is hard to take all this in at one time lol

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In a message dated 5/4/2006 1:28:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, hfparker@... writes:

On 5/4/06, H <whanscom@...> wrote:

I've done a couple "how many calories should you be eating" calculators and they come out around 2300. I'm no where near there. Usually between 1200 and 1400. Is anybody losing on eating that many calories?

I am eating 2000 and loosing. When I get to 312 I will go down to 1700 calories. I also do an exercise dvd for 30 min 5 times a week. I was'nt loosing until I started exercising. I would suggest trying 2300 for a couple weeks and if your not loosing slowly lower it by 200 cal a week until you start loosing.

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I am. The nutritionist I am working with has me on about 2200 calories a day, but I also do intense cardio with a trainer 3 times a week and am consistently losing 1-4 pounds a week...usually on the 1 pound side, but sometimes more.

It was really hard for me to get used to eating that much food, but I feel so much better.

-heidi

On 5/4/06, H <whanscom@...> wrote:

I've done a couple " how many calories should you be eating " calculators and they come out around 2300. I'm no where near there. Usually between 1200 and 1400. Is anybody losing on eating that many calories?100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files

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I started out at 252 pounds, and lost on 2000 calories a day.

You really can not starve yourself and continue to lose weight. You will just

lose muscle tone, which is where your metabolism stems from. The more muscle you

lose, the less metab you will have. If you lose on a higher calorie diet (one

right for you) then you will lose fat not muscle. It's slower, but it's steady

and you don't lose muscle.

That's why on crash diets, you always gain every thing back, PLUS more, you lose

muscle, and then lowered your metabolism. Also why each time it's harder and

harder to lose.

Right now I'm 155, and lost 1 pound, on 1800 calories!

Your body needs a certain amount of calories just to do it's basic needs,

breathing, cleaning your colon, your kidneys, etc.

Please don't starve yourself. Going below the reccomended calories, you are

starving your self essentially. You really are.

Remember you are a good person, and you don't have to punish yourself because

you are over weight. Often times we unconsciencely punish ourselves, thinking we

can barely eat to lose weight. But, that's not true. We just need to eat in

balance, and enough to maintain our body. Not starve. And that's how we can do

it for life. Instead of finally subcombing and going crazy on a binge.

>

From: H <whanscom@...>

>Date: Thu May 04 13:10:28 CDT 2006

>100-plus

>Subject: Calorie question

>I've done a couple " how many calories should you be eating "

>calculators and they come out around 2300.  I'm no where near there. 

>Usually between 1200 and 1400.  Is anybody losing on eating that

>many calories?

>

>

>

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> I am eating 2000 and loosing. When I get to 312 I will go down to 1700

calories. I also do an

> exercise dvd for 30 min 5 times a week. I was'nt loosing until I started

exercising. I would suggest

> trying 2300 for a couple weeks and if your not loosing slowly lower it by 200

cal a week until you

> start loosing.

Thanks! I am playing with eating more calories one day and less the

next and that seems to help.

Isn't it great that a lot of us seem to be out moving!

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That's really great that you're working out with a trainer. I'm walking 30

minutes a day. It seems like a hard balance to strike. I don't want to

lose anything but fat :-). Need to keep the muscle.

But the road is going to be long and hard,

>

> I am. The nutritionistI am working with has me on about 2200 calories a day,

but I also do intense

> cardio with a trainer 3 times a week and am consistently losing 1-4 pounds a

week...usually on the

> 1 pound side, but sometimes more.

> It was really hard for me to get used to eating that much food, but I feel so

much better.

>

> -heidi

>

> On 5/4/06, H <whanscom@...> wrote:

> I've done a couple " how many calories should you be eating "

> calculators and they come out around 2300. I'm no where near there.

> Usually between 1200 and 1400. Is anybody losing on eating that

> many calories?

>

>

>

> 100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files

> 100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

>

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Thanks ,

I will continue to dilligently record what I eat and try to increase it at

least closer to 1800.

> I started out at 252 pounds, and lost on 2000 calories a day.

>

> You really can not starve yourself and continue to lose weight. You will just

lose muscle tone,

> which is where your metabolism stems from. The more muscle you lose, the less

metab you will

> have. If you lose on a higher calorie diet (one right for you) then you will

lose fat not muscle. It's

> slower, but it's steady and you don't lose muscle.

>

> That's why on crash diets, you always gain every thing back, PLUS more, you

lose muscle, and

> then lowered your metabolism. Also why each time it's harder and harder to

lose.

>

> Right now I'm 155, and lost 1 pound, on 1800 calories!

>

> Your body needs a certain amount of calories just to do it's basic needs,

breathing, cleaning your

> colon, your kidneys, etc.

>

> Please don't starve yourself. Going below the reccomended calories, you are

starving your self

> essentially. You really are.

>

> Remember you are a good person, and you don't have to punish yourself because

you are over

> weight. Often times we unconsciencely punish ourselves, thinking we can barely

eat to lose

> weight. But, that's not true. We just need to eat in balance, and enough to

maintain our body. Not

> starve. And that's how we can do it for life. Instead of finally subcombing

and going crazy on a

> binge.

>

>

>

> >

>

> From: H <whanscom@...>

> >Date: Thu May 04 13:10:28 CDT 2006

> >100-plus

> >Subject: Calorie question

>

> >I've done a couple " how many calories should you be eating "

> >calculators and they come out around 2300.  I'm no where near there. 

> >Usually between 1200 and 1400.  Is anybody losing on eating that

> >many calories?

> >

> >

> >

> >100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files

> >100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links

> >

> >

> >

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The biggest looser book says to LOOSE weight you need to eat 7 calories per pound of body weight you are.....so for me it started out at 1925 and now is down to 1600 something......BUT it also depends on how active you are.....I am on weight watchers and I have never really actually figured out my calories.....maybe I should try that and see what it ends up being....I am thinking that 1 point is somewhere from about 65 calories and under....so if that is the case, I am 'allowed' roughly 1820 calories.....but again, the more exercise you do, the better....

I think once I am 'goal' weight, I will be eating approx 1300 calories a day to maintain (20 points is the lowest ww wants you to go)......

Blessings!Kathey

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I've done a couple "how many calories should you be eating" calculators and they come out around 2300. I'm no where near there. Usually between 1200 and 1400. Is anybody losing on eating that many calories?I personally don't seem to lose any weight unless I stay below 1800 and then it is really, really small weight loss. I think 1600 is where I need to be. But everyone is different. There are many calculators out there for you to use just remember to check and see if the one you use is telling you how many calories you need to maintain your current weight or if it is telling you the calories you need to show a loss.

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I aim for 2000-2400, depending how much exercise I get that day. I

started out on 2300-2600 and have lost about 10 pounds per month since

September. So yeah, I'm losing weight on that many calories...but I

exercise at least 6 days a week for 30-50 mins of intense cardio and

twice a week I try to add strength training.

-Bonnie

> I've done a couple " how many calories should you be eating "

> calculators and they come out around 2300. I'm no where near there.

> Usually between 1200 and 1400. Is anybody losing on eating that

> many calories?

>

>

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I'm on 1600, I've lost 25 pounds.H <whanscom@...> wrote: I've done a couple "how many calories should you be eating" calculators and they come out around 2300. <snip> -Sapphyre Feel Free to Visit: www.geocities.com/asmallersapphyre www.livejournal.com/users/changescomin www.geocities.com/mothernatureschyld

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> I've done a couple " how many calories should you be eating "

> calculators and they come out around 2300.

I know that all those calculators and all the " experts " have their formulas

to figure out how much a person should be eating for weight loss, but

they're all assuming everyone has the same metabolism, that we all have the

same activity level, that we're all the same age, and that we all have the

same diet history (zero).

That said, for an active 20-something who just recently gained the weight,

is in excellent health, has never dieted before, and who loves going to the

gym and does an hour of cardio *every* day and weight training 2 to 3 times

a week, then that person should be able to lose weight on that 2300

calories.

But, if you have a 50-something peri-menopausal woman with a history of

injuries and yo-yo dieting since early childhood and who won't or can't

exercise more than 15 to 30 minutes a few times a week, then she's going to

gain and gain big on that same 2300 calories.

Every person is different. And humans are not machines in the sense that a

math equation is going to be able to assess our individual needs. As you

just read, there are *some* people who are eating 2000 calories and up who

*are* losing weight, but they're also exercising 60 minutes a number of

times a week. You also just read that there are many who are eating way less

than that, even though we weigh in the same general area, but for various

reasons we don't exercise to the same extent, and still we're either not

losing at all or not losing fast enough.

For *health* reasons, nobody should eat less than around 1400 calories a day

long term. Short bursts of lower calories are okay to jump-start a diet, but

that should only last a week or less unless under strict medical

supervision. We need not just that amount of energy calories to keep our

brains and vital organs running but the nutrients in that amount of food.

Ideally, we should be taking vitamin and mineral supplements if we're eating

that little and weighing this much, too. At 1400 calories, most people will

lose weight, some people still won't.

Everyone is different. So I suggest if that's the calorie amount you were

given, give it a try. If you find after a few weeks that you're not losing,

drop it down by 100 or so calories and stay there for a week or 2, and keep

doing this until you find a level that lets you lose a pound or 2 of weight

per week, or 1400 calories, which ever comes first.

Be sure to do the same amount of exercise each week, too, for a proper

comparison. Don't start off all gung-ho, trying to squeeze 2 hours a day 7

days a week of exercise-level activity in, only to find out by the end of

the first week that it's an impossible level to maintain, then stop

exercising altogether. Start small and build up to a comfortable,

sustainable level for your lifestyle. And make sure it's something you enjoy

doing, too. Remember, this is something you're going to have to do for the

rest of your life if you want to get - and keep - the weight off.

Good luck!

Sue in NJ

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