Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Keli, I think you need to sit down and write a very long letter about your experience and send it to the people who run Fill USA. What she is doing should be against the law. If she doesn't know what she is doing then she shouldn't be doing fills. She can and I'm sure will really hurt someone with her negligence. Karlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I TOLD YOU YOU WERENUTS TO GO AGAIN TO HER YOU SHOULD OF INSISTED ON SOME ONE ELSE Keli <kjwright@...> wrote: Okay folks I said I would let you know how my second fill with the fake heart attack lady went in Kansas. This again is unbelievable!!! If you recall, I went to her last week driving from Oklahoma. They tried to cancel my appointment several times and then made a finale with a fake heart attack. Ultimately filling me after complaining and throwing a fuss. I felt NO restriction after leaving, felt the exact same.. I called Fill Centers US and they set up a free visit w/ this nut lady to correct the first fill. Husband and I made our way back to Kansas Friday. I was highly nervous because I knew she was pissed at me because I complained, but I need this fill and have to do this... Anyway, I get in the chair in position. She gets everything ready. My husband is watching closely so we know how much she puts in. When she gets in my port I told her it feels differently than it had the previous week. She doesn't comment. She explained first she needed to pull back out what was put in last week to make the new adjustment correct. This makes sense to me.. I asked her how much she pulled out and she said she got nothing but air. Confused, I told her to just proceed with the new fill. She puts in an amount that literally felt like someone was ripping my guts out. I came out of the chair and begged her to get it out. She did. Said that it was too much. I said well go less. At some point I felt some restriction and told her I was comfortable at that level. She removed the fill needle and sat me up. I asked how many ccs I had. She said 6cc's. I got so mad because I thought she meant .06 cc's . That wasn't anymore than I was supposed to have gotten the week previous. (.05 cc) She said no, you are misunderstanding. Last week I gave you 5.0 cc's and now you have 6.0 cc's. I was so confused. I told her that I have never heard of anyone having 6 cc's. She said well you do now and my band will hold 10 cc's. Upset and again disappointed I get in my car to go home and call Nina. Nina says there is no way I have 6 cc's because my size band will only hold 4??!! My husband thinks based on the needle marks and how much saline he seen go in I have 1 cc. Who knows??? Later when compared the needle marks from last week and Friday and the locations are almost two inches apart. I know she did not hit my port the first time I was there. She just injected saline into my body. I have a small fill now, little restriction, but better than before. Nina's statement to me ( I agree) let her practice on someone else. She has absolutely no idea what she is doing and should not be allowed to continue representing Fill Centers USA!!! My opinion and experience only!! Thanks for your time!! Keli W 248/211/150 DOB 2/4/06 Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Oh my goodness, I'm just floored by your experiences. I hope you call again and complain and maybe they will give you your money back. Can she be reported to the AMA? I truly hope you can find someone competent to do your fills from now on. > > Okay folks I said I would let you know how my second fill with the fake heart attack lady went in Kansas. This again is unbelievable!!! > > If you recall, I went to her last week driving from Oklahoma. They tried to cancel my appointment several times and then made a finale with a fake heart attack. Ultimately filling me after complaining and throwing a fuss. > > I felt NO restriction after leaving, felt the exact same.. I called Fill Centers US and they set up a free visit w/ this nut lady to correct the first fill. Husband and I made our way back to Kansas Friday. > I was highly nervous because I knew she was pissed at me because I complained, but I need this fill and have to do this... > > Anyway, I get in the chair in position. She gets everything ready. My husband is watching closely so we know how much she puts in. When she gets in my port I told her it feels differently than it had the previous week. She doesn't comment. She explained first she needed to pull back out what was put in last week to make the new adjustment correct. This makes sense to me.. I asked her how much she pulled out and she said she got nothing but air. Confused, I told her to just proceed with the new fill. She puts in an amount that literally felt like someone was ripping my guts out. I came out of the chair and begged her to get it out. She did. Said that it was too much. I said well go less. At some point I felt some restriction and told her I was comfortable at that level. > She removed the fill needle and sat me up. I asked how many ccs I had. She said 6cc's. I got so mad because I thought she meant .06 cc's . That wasn't anymore than I was supposed to have gotten the week previous. (.05 cc) > > She said no, you are misunderstanding. Last week I gave you 5.0 cc's and now you have 6.0 cc's. I was so confused. I told her that I have never heard of anyone having 6 cc's. She said well you do now and my band will hold 10 cc's. Upset and again disappointed I get in my car to go home and call Nina. Nina says there is no way I have 6 cc's because my size band will only hold 4??!! > > My husband thinks based on the needle marks and how much saline he seen go in I have 1 cc. Who knows??? > > Later when compared the needle marks from last week and Friday and the locations are almost two inches apart. I know she did not hit my port the first time I was there. She just injected saline into my body. I have a small fill now, little restriction, but better than before. > > Nina's statement to me ( I agree) let her practice on someone else. She has absolutely no idea what she is doing and should not be allowed to continue representing Fill Centers USA!!! > My opinion and experience only!! > Thanks for your time!! > Keli W > 248/211/150 > DOB 2/4/06 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hi Keli, What an absolute nightmare for you!! IMy DOB is the 28th so I am not sure yet how the fill works but when you said she said6cc's I knew right away somethings not right. from everyone else's info at the bottom of their e-mails it will say 1.2cc's; 1.5cc's etc. This woman is out there!! From the sounds of it unfortunantly you are her only patient she has ever done. And I dont think she has been trained to do this procedure. I am really sorry you have had such an awful time getting a fill. I hope it gets better for you. Tammy Irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Keli, and others. This obviously incompetent doctor can be reported to AMA but they are less likely to get involved than other sources. I'd recommend the following: 1) the medical board of the state where she is licensed is obligated to investigate when they receive this type of complaint. They should be listed in the Government Pages section of your phone book, or call the state capital's area code and ask for the medical board of your state. Tell whoever you reach that you want to make a complaint about physician incompetence. They should direct you to the complaint division. This is serious stuff for a doctor. 2) if any of your fill, visit, flouro, etc. is covered under your insurance, you can contact the insurance company and complain. Most states heavily regulate insurance companies and require very strict actions to respond to such complaints. 3) #1 should not fail, but if it does, or if you want to cover all the bases, contact the attorney general of your state or district attorney in the doctor's area, and make an accusation of fraud. If she represents herself as a "fill doctor", bills for it even when she has failed, she may be committing a form of fraud. At any rate, that will attract attention. Fraud is one of the really big words that get investigations started! She should not be allowed to get away with it. Last, if the fill occurred in the hospital, you have other avenues open to you. It sounds like it was an office procedure, but if you were an outpatient at the hospital, let me know. One of my functions in my hospital is dealing with issues/complaints against doctors. I also worked as the person working with the state on complaints against doctors, at an insurance company. I'm happy to help! Phyllis Re: 2nd Chance Fill- BAD!! Oh my goodness, I'm just floored by your experiences. I hope you call again and complain and maybe they will give you your money back. Can she be reported to the AMA?I truly hope you can find someone competent to do your fills from now on. >> Okay folks I said I would let you know how my second fill with the fake heart attack lady went in Kansas. This again is unbelievable!!!> > If you recall, I went to her last week driving from Oklahoma. They tried to cancel my appointment several times and then made a finale with a fake heart attack. Ultimately filling me after complaining and throwing a fuss. > > I felt NO restriction after leaving, felt the exact same.. I called Fill Centers US and they set up a free visit w/ this nut lady to correct the first fill. Husband and I made our way back to Kansas Friday. > I was highly nervous because I knew she was pissed at me because I complained, but I need this fill and have to do this... > > Anyway, I get in the chair in position. She gets everything ready. My husband is watching closely so we know how much she puts in. When she gets in my port I told her it feels differently than it had the previous week. She doesn't comment. She explained first she needed to pull back out what was put in last week to make the new adjustment correct. This makes sense to me.. I asked her how much she pulled out and she said she got nothing but air. Confused, I told her to just proceed with the new fill. She puts in an amount that literally felt like someone was ripping my guts out. I came out of the chair and begged her to get it out. She did. Said that it was too much. I said well go less. At some point I felt some restriction and told her I was comfortable at that level. > She removed the fill needle and sat me up. I asked how many ccs I had. She said 6cc's. I got so mad because I thought she meant .06 cc's . That wasn't anymore than I was supposed to have gotten the week previous. (.05 cc) > > She said no, you are misunderstanding. Last week I gave you 5.0 cc's and now you have 6.0 cc's. I was so confused. I told her that I have never heard of anyone having 6 cc's. She said well you do now and my band will hold 10 cc's. Upset and again disappointed I get in my car to go home and call Nina. Nina says there is no way I have 6 cc's because my size band will only hold 4??!! > > My husband thinks based on the needle marks and how much saline he seen go in I have 1 cc. Who knows??? > > Later when compared the needle marks from last week and Friday and the locations are almost two inches apart. I know she did not hit my port the first time I was there. She just injected saline into my body. I have a small fill now, little restriction, but better than before. > > Nina's statement to me ( I agree) let her practice on someone else. She has absolutely no idea what she is doing and should not be allowed to continue representing Fill Centers USA!!! > My opinion and experience only!! > Thanks for your time!!> Keli W> 248/211/150 > DOB 2/4/06> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 > Great suggestion, I think I will do that! Thanks for thinking of that! I'll cc a copy of the letter to the group when I finish it!! > From: PinkyPinkerton06@... > Date: 2006/04/02 Sun PM 11:17:09 GMT > > Subject: Re: 2nd Chance Fill- BAD!! > > Keli, > > I think you need to sit down and write a very long letter about your > experience and send it to the people who run Fill USA. What she is doing should be > against the law. If she doesn't know what she is doing then she shouldn't be > doing fills. She can and I'm sure will really hurt someone with her > negligence. > > Karlie > > (http://www.tickercentral.com/) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Keli, I agree completely - you NEED to report this woman not only to Fill Centers USA but to the Better Business Bureau and the Dept. of Health. Praise God she didn't hurt you - but what if she'd punctured the tubing from your port to your band? You'd have to get it replaced at your expense. She needs to be stopped and out of business. Liz > > Keli, > > I think you need to sit down and write a very long letter about your > experience and send it to the people who run Fill USA. What she is doing should be > against the law. If she doesn't know what she is doing then she shouldn't be > doing fills. She can and I'm sure will really hurt someone with her > negligence. > > Karlie > > (http://www.tickercentral.com/) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Keli, don't let the waiver scare you off, esp if you have any complication due to her bungling. It's not really legally binding - and if in fact she is committing a criminal act (fraudulently representing herself as a practitioner she is not), the waiver is worth zip! Give 'em hell, Harry (I mean, Keri!). PD Re: 2nd Chance Fill- BAD!! Oh my goodness, I'm just floored by your experiences. I hope you call again and complain and maybe they will give you your money back. Can she be reported to the AMA?I truly hope you can find someone competent to do your fills from now on. >> Okay folks I said I would let you know how my second fill with the fake heart attack lady went in Kansas. This again is unbelievable!!!> > If you recall, I went to her last week driving from Oklahoma. They tried to cancel my appointment several times and then made a finale with a fake heart attack. Ultimately filling me after complaining and throwing a fuss. > > I felt NO restriction after leaving, felt the exact same.. I called Fill Centers US and they set up a free visit w/ this nut lady to correct the first fill. Husband and I made our way back to Kansas Friday. > I was highly nervous because I knew she was pissed at me because I complained, but I need this fill and have to do this... > > Anyway, I get in the chair in position. She gets everything ready. My husband is watching closely so we know how much she puts in. When she gets in my port I told her it feels differently than it had the previous week. She doesn't comment. She explained first she needed to pull back out what was put in last week to make the new adjustment correct. This makes sense to me.. I asked her how much she pulled out and she said she got nothing but air. Confused, I told her to just proceed with the new fill. She puts in an amount that literally felt like someone was ripping my guts out. I came out of the chair and begged her to get it out. She did. Said that it was too much. I said well go less. At some point I felt some restriction and told her I was comfortable at that level. > She removed the fill needle and sat me up. I asked how many ccs I had. She said 6cc's. I got so mad because I thought she meant .06 cc's . That wasn't anymore than I was supposed to have gotten the week previous. (.05 cc) > > She said no, you are misunderstanding. Last week I gave you 5.0 cc's and now you have 6.0 cc's. I was so confused. I told her that I have never heard of anyone having 6 cc's. She said well you do now and my band will hold 10 cc's. Upset and again disappointed I get in my car to go home and call Nina. Nina says there is no way I have 6 cc's because my size band will only hold 4??!! > > My husband thinks based on the needle marks and how much saline he seen go in I have 1 cc. Who knows??? > > Later when compared the needle marks from last week and Friday and the locations are almost two inches apart. I know she did not hit my port the first time I was there. She just injected saline into my body. I have a small fill now, little restriction, but better than before. > > Nina's statement to me ( I agree) let her practice on someone else. She has absolutely no idea what she is doing and should not be allowed to continue representing Fill Centers USA!!! > My opinion and experience only!! > Thanks for your time!!> Keli W> 248/211/150 > DOB 2/4/06> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Keli, is Fill Centers USA a free standing clinic/physican's office.. That means thay are not physically attached to a hospital. If they are privately owned you could always report them to the BBB. Do you know who the head guy is there. Maybe he/she is not aware of how this particular MD practices. Maybe there have been other complaints and yours may be just the one that they need to give her the boot! Also, if they have a website there might be a corporate number you could call to complain. Good luck. We need to stick together and protect out fellow bandsters. Ginger > > > > Okay folks I said I would let you know how my second fill with the fake heart attack lady > went in Kansas. This again is unbelievable!!! > > > > If you recall, I went to her last week driving from Oklahoma. They tried to cancel my > appointment several times and then made a finale with a fake heart attack. Ultimately > filling me after complaining and throwing a fuss. > > > > I felt NO restriction after leaving, felt the exact same.. I called Fill Centers US and they > set up a free visit w/ this nut lady to correct the first fill. Husband and I made our way > back to Kansas Friday. > > I was highly nervous because I knew she was pissed at me because I complained, but I > need this fill and have to do this... > > > > Anyway, I get in the chair in position. She gets everything ready. My husband is > watching closely so we know how much she puts in. When she gets in my port I told her it > feels differently than it had the previous week. She doesn't comment. She explained first > she needed to pull back out what was put in last week to make the new adjustment > correct. This makes sense to me.. I asked her how much she pulled out and she said she > got nothing but air. Confused, I told her to just proceed with the new fill. She puts in an > amount that literally felt like someone was ripping my guts out. I came out of the chair > and begged her to get it out. She did. Said that it was too much. I said well go less. At > some point I felt some restriction and told her I was comfortable at that level. > > She removed the fill needle and sat me up. I asked how many ccs I had. She said 6cc's. I > got so mad because I thought she meant .06 cc's . That wasn't anymore than I was > supposed to have gotten the week previous. (.05 cc) > > > > She said no, you are misunderstanding. Last week I gave you 5.0 cc's and now you have > 6.0 cc's. I was so confused. I told her that I have never heard of anyone having 6 cc's. She > said well you do now and my band will hold 10 cc's. Upset and again disappointed I get in > my car to go home and call Nina. Nina says there is no way I have 6 cc's because my size > band will only hold 4??!! > > > > My husband thinks based on the needle marks and how much saline he seen go in I > have 1 cc. Who knows??? > > > > Later when compared the needle marks from last week and Friday and the locations are > almost two inches apart. I know she did not hit my port the first time I was there. She just > injected saline into my body. I have a small fill now, little restriction, but better than > before. > > > > Nina's statement to me ( I agree) let her practice on someone else. She has absolutely no > idea what she is doing and should not be allowed to continue representing Fill Centers > USA!!! > > My opinion and experience only!! > > Thanks for your time!! > > Keli W > > 248/211/150 > > DOB 2/4/06 > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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