Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 nne, How many cc's does the swedish bands hold? Do you think there may be a significant difference in the Inamed & swedish bands? I wonder??? Also..., on this site, has lost over 170lbs and will have her 1yr anniversary at the end of the month!! So, big weight loss is very possible with the band....try everything you can think of to get that band working even at night. Just to add..even tho you probably know :-)...follow the rules..lots of water in between meals...exercise..and stay out of the kitchen!! LOL..Dana -------------- Original message -------------- From: "marianne_xo" <marianne_xo@...> Dana-- I get fills regularly, just had one and there is NO restriction from early evening on. I understand about self control, however, there has been no consistency from which to get a routine that has successful results with all the fluctuations of the band. Believe the 30 lbs, it's there :(A friend of mine has lost $167 lbs in 2 yrs--RNY and she's still losing. I've heard that it can stop working after 5 yrs and I get that there are pros and cons to everything. There is no magical cure-all, I know what I have to do, however MY band has been a moving target so to speak. I spoke with a bariatric assistant this evening and he said that he's spoke with several other patients in my exact situtation with the exact band (swedish). I've not given up hope, I know there is a way for me, thanks for your support. nne> >> > Dawn> > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mai l a deposit > of> > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, she> > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on the> > doctors sechudle.> > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 unless> > you are directly flying into Mexico.> > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying into > San> > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either to > the> > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at the> > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > hotel> > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to hospital> > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk those> > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal.> > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > enought> > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that> > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ.> > > > > >> > > > > > > Have a great day,> Trina Antonopoulos > > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > The fish are biting.> Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Wow! If I eat " real fast " It is sure to come right back up!! My fill Dr. actually says to put down your fork and wait up to 5 minutes between bites to make sure you are not yet satisfied. Remember that " feeling satisfied " and that old " full feeling " you had before banding are two different feelings, too! I think Rosie was refering to not eating any longer than 15-20 minutes. You should be satisfied by then but DON " T try stuffing it all down at once or you will be totally sorry! Good luck and I hope you figure out the " bandster way of eating " Nina listed the rules on a post a week or two ago and we ALL received info on the way to do it when we got banded. We just need to review every so often! Penny > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a > deposit > > of > > > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, > she > > > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on > the > > > doctors sechudle. > > > > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 > unless > > > you are directly flying into Mexico. > > > > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying > into > > San > > > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either > to > > the > > > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at > the > > > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > > hotel > > > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to > hospital > > > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk > those > > > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal. > > > > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > > enought > > > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that > > > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > See all the new > > > <http://autos./new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE0OGRsc3F2BF9TAzk3MT > A3MDc2B > > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> 2007 cars at > > > <http://autos./new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE0OGRsc3F2BF9TAzk3MT > A3MDc2B > > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The fish are biting. > > Get > > > <http://us.rd./evt=49679/*http:/searchmarketing./ar > p/spons > > oredsearch_v2.php? > o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> more > > visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > > > > > > > > > Rena Brown > DOB: 9/26/06 > 204/174/140 > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 nne, I would like to tell you about my daughter Jacqui. She was banded July 3, 2006. She was "starving" the morning after surgery and everyday after that!! She had lost 12lbs At 6 weeks, and had her first fill on 8-30-06, 0.5cc (At my encouragement to be conservative, and her fear of being over-filled like I had been) that night and every night after she was able to eat..and I mean eat!! Whole chicken sandwiches..subs..whatever! Two weeks went by and we knew it wasn't enough so she scheduled her second fill. By this point she had re-gained about 4lbs. On Sept 15th she got an additional 1.5cc to total 2cc. Well, guess what ?!! NO RESTRICTION..still!! She was still able to eat too much in the evenings, but wasn't very hungry during the day..but continued to gain another 4-5lbs!! She wasn't able to get an appt until Nov 15th. She ended up having Fluro on Nov 21st to locate the port after multiple attempts. They gave her an additional1.5cc which now totall ed 3.5cc in her 4cc band!!! Holy Cow!! Her weight is now slowly coming off again! She started at 219 and is now down to 197! 23lbs..she eats wayyy less but still grazes at night, but not so much, maybe a Qtr of what she could before. If she eats too fast she will "Yak" (as says..lol) If she eats after she has eaten enough...she will Yak!! This has helped her learn when to stop..when she is really hungry or not..and when is a good time to just drink some water. She is tight all day and usually won't eat until 8:30- 11:00pm ( she works 2nd shift ). I just wanted to share how difficult the fill process can be..I have lost 60 lbs with 4 small fills..1.8cc total. So each of us are different and maybe you still need a little more to get there??..the sweet spot :-) Dana 2-1-06 200-140-140 -------------- Original message -------------- From: nne <marianne_xo@...> Hi Jane, For me, the lap band has been a tremendous struggle due to the fluctuations of band restriction. The band will be super tight all day so that I can't eat a thing without vomiting then when dinner time rolls around, my band has become so loose that there is no restriction and consequently I am eating for the missed food during the day plus dinner---portion is out of control at that point. I'm getting fills regularly, ($165 Portland Dr. Fitzpatrick) I just had one on Fri and I was still able to eat way too much Sat night when I went out with friends. I was told that the band will cause you to be less hungery, and you'll automatically want to eat differently---not the case for me. I'm always hungry and can, unfortunately eat large portions---where's the small pouch that I was told I have?! Knowing what I know now about the band being so inconsistent and how stress, exercise caffeine etc change the restriction I would choose the Bypass. I only wish I had honest info about the band and how it can fail, not a lot of people want to talk about that aspect of the surgery. I wish you luck in whatever you decide is right for you and please continue to do your homework, there is more info out there then even 1 year ago when I was researching. nne jane moss <mom_jane_moss > wrote: nne, I am currently considering the band. I have a lot of weight to lose. You said that the band did not work for you. Can you elaborate? I don't want to go through the band and have it not work and than have to go through another procedure. Thanks for your input.marianne_xo <marianne_xo > wrote: ,Hi there, I'm in Oregon, currently checking into the RNY as I've had no success with the band. Can you give me an update on your RNY procedure and experiences with Dr Aceves? Thanks,nne>> Dawn> > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a deposit of> $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, she> will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on the> doctors sechudle.> > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 unless> you are directly flying into Mexico.> > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying into San> Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either to the> ; hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at the> hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the hotel> and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to hospital> and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk those> halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal.> > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close enought> to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that> Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ.> > > Don't pick lemons.See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. The fish are biting.Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Don't feel picked on it's just a little tough love. We all get it and need it once in a while.Rosie Sastre <roanch@...> wrote: Gees...I feel picked on...but I understand...my point is that not only do we need to be told what the band rules are...but also the reasons behind them, otherwise we wont understand exactly the consequences of our actions, for example...I was told not to drink with my meals...I didn't know the reason was that you stay full longer if you don't...I just thought ...I don't know what the heck I thought...I just didn't think it was as important as it is...Rosie>From: "NANCY" <nancy8887 >>Reply- > >Subject: Re: actually starting>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:42:54 -0000>>//I was told not to drink with my meals...but I wasn't explained>why...so I drank with my meals. //>That doesn't make any sense. If you were curious why wouldn't you>ask why you couldn't? why would you intentionally NOT follow a rule?>>// I was never told to eat as fast as possible...otherwise if you>eat real slow you can eat as much as a non-banded person. //>This is not an entirely true statement. Your are NOT supposed to>eat fast. You are supposed to eat slow and chew chew chew. You>should not eat for more then 20 min because you will be able to eat>as much as you want. The band begins to empy itself and if you eat>slow enough, you can keep refilling your pouch until all your food>is gone. This of course defeats the purpose of the band.>>// I was also never explained how to eat....protein first...then>veggies then carbs..//>You must not have done much research because this is plastered over>band sites and in this groups emails as well.>>//We get information when we are banded...but just not enough//>It is always good to do extensive research before having major>surgery. Hopefully your experience will show others how not to do>things.>>//I went to 's webpage http://tracyslapband.com/index.htm //>This is an amazing tool everyone should go to and use!>>//...I think people think you get banded...and boom..you're>skinny...it doesn't work like that.//>Amen>>Rosie>Thanks for posting this. I assure you that you are not the only one>out there who didn't know what to do. You were just the only one>brave enough to say it.>>>7/18/05>280/180/140>>__________________________________________________________Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ Michel Bullhead, AZ Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Rosie, and everyone, thanks so much for recommending my web site for info. I am so glad it helps people, truly. Also, I have to commend you for saying what you have. You didn’t have to, but you are trying to help someone else by telling them you messed up by not listening. You are right, and I think Dr. Aceves and staff are really trying to come up with better ways of educating people post operatively other then hand outs and this email list. I think the whole reason I started my web page is because I felt there just wasn’t enough info out there, but mainly because I wanted to give people the info the way I wanted to hear it. Shooting straight from the hip, the good the bad and the ugly. I wanted people to know it is perfectly normal to fear going to Mexico. I did! Ask Nina how freaked out I was when I checked in to the hotel in Mexicali. To be nervous is normal. To be scared is normal. To not know or even to test the band is normal. I think and some others have corrected a few things. Yes, do not keep eating past 15 to 20 min because it does defeat the bands purpose. Some people cannot drink with their meals especially if they are super tight. I can drink with my meal and it allows me to eat more. Everyone is different. Congrats on your weight loss Rosie! M DOB 3/1/05 280/160/158 under goal! 122lbs GONE! 5ft 6in, Size 8 http://www.tracyslapband.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: actually starting I have a comment for everyone that has been banded or is thinking about being banded. In my opinion, not enough information is given as to how to eat with the band. I was banded in May of 06 and have only lost about 10 lbs in all...however, I was doing many many things wrong...for example...I was told not to drink with my meals...but I wasn't explained why...so I drank with my meals. I was never told to eat as fast as possible...otherwise if you eat real slow you can eat as much as a non-banded person. I was also never explained how to eat....protein first...then veggies then carbs...I went to 's webpage http://tracyslapband.com/index.htm and I read over it and found many things I've been doing wrong. We get information when we are banded...but just not enough...I think people think you get banded...and boom..you're skinny...it doesn't work like that...you have to follow the directions...I found 's website very informative and I encourage every one that is newly banded and even those that are old timers with little success to tweak their eating routine and follow the instructions...I have and have lost another 6 lbs....the band is not a magic wand...its simply a tool that works as long as you work with it. This is my opinion...does anyone else agree? Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hey Rena, you have read by now I am sure, but you should not take 45 min to eat because doing that allows you to eat more. Even if you are sticking to the portion amounts, you should finish within 20 min tops. Sticking to a eating schedule helps so that you can time your water intake correctly. I remember having a hard time with the timing because of work. I had to hide water bottles from myself after eating or I would subconsciously drink before I was supposed to. It is hard to wait 2 hrs after eating to drink, and yet still get in the recommended amount of water. (Especially if you aren’t fond of water to begin with, or you are tight and have to drink slowly). I should tell people however that the pouch rules on my site were meant originally for RNY patients so you need to take that into consideration, especially when it talks about water loading and some other things. You cannot gulp water with the band, therefore it is hard to “water load” when you are restricted. I do recommend drinking as much water as you can 30 min before your meal because it does help with satiety. M DOB 3/1/05 280/160/158 under goal! 122lbs GONE! 5ft 6in, Size 8 http://www.tracyslapband.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of rena brown Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: actually starting That is strange....I was told to eat slow...That it should take me 45 minutes to eat instead of 10 like it use to...Now I'm confused...I guess I'm losing so I won't worry to much about it...Thanks, Rena Rosie Sastre <roanchhotmail> wrote: This is what it says on 's website: IDEAL MEAL PROCESS (rules of the pouch): 1. The patient must time meals five hours apart or the patient will get too hungry in between. 2. The patient needs to eat finely cut meat and raw or slightly cooked veggies with each meal. 3. The patient must eat the entire meal in 5-15 minutes. A 30-45 minute meal will cause failure. 4. No liquids for 1 ½ hours to 2 hours after each meal. 5. After 1 ½ to 2 hours, begin sipping water and over the next three hours slowly increase water intake. 6. 3 hours after last meal, begin drinking LOTS of water/fluids. 7. 15 minutes before the next meal, drink as much as possible as fast as possible. This is called " water loading, " IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DRINKING OVER THE LAST FEW HOURS, THIS 'WATER LOADING' WILL NOT WORK. 8. You can water load at any time 2-3 hours before your next meal if you get hungry, which will cause a strong feeling of fullness. THREE PRINCIPLES FOR GAINING AND MAINTAINING SATIETY: 1. Fill pouch full quickly at each meal 2. Stay full by slowing the emptying of the pouch. (Eat solids. No liquids 15 minutes before and none until 1 ½ hours after the meal). A scientific test showed that a meal of egg/toast/milk had almost all emptied out of the pouch after 45 minutes. Without milk, just egg and toast, more than ½ of the meal still remained in the pouch after 1 ½ hours. 3. Protein, protein, protein. Three meals a day. No high calorie liquids. >From: rena brown >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: actually starting >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:06:21 -0800 (PST) > >Hi, I don't understand one thing...You were told to eat real fast? Who told >you this? It's the 1st I've heard...I was banded in September... > > Thanks, Rena > > wrote: > I have a comment for everyone that has been banded or is >thinking >about being banded. In my opinion, not enough information is given >as to how to eat with the band. I was banded in May of 06 and have >only lost about 10 lbs in all...however, I was doing many many >things wrong...for example...I was told not to drink with my >meals...but I wasn't explained why...so I drank with my meals. I >was never told to eat as fast as possible...otherwise if you eat >real slow you can eat as much as a non-banded person. I was also >never explained how to eat....protein first...then veggies then >carbs...I went to 's webpage http://tracyslapband.com/index.htm >and I read over it and found many things I've been doing wrong. We >get information when we are banded...but just not enough...I think >people think you get banded...and boom..you're skinny...it doesn't >work like that...you have to follow the directions...I found 's >website very informative and I encourage every one that is newly >banded and even those that are old timers with little success to >tweak their eating routine and follow the instructions...I have and >have lost another 6 lbs....the band is not a magic wand...its simply >a tool that works as long as you work with it. This is my >opinion...does anyone else agree? > >Rosie > > > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a >deposit > > of > > > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, >she > > > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on >the > > > doctors sechudle. > > > > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 >unless > > > you are directly flying into Mexico. > > > > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying >into > > San > > > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either >to > > the > > > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at >the > > > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > > hotel > > > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to >hospital > > > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk >those > > > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal. > > > > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > > enought > > > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that > > > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > See all the new > > >>A3MDc2B > > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> 2007 cars at > > >>A3MDc2B > > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > The fish are biting. > > Get > > >>p/spons > > oredsearch_v2.php? >o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> more > > visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > > > > > > > > > Rena Brown > DOB: 9/26/06 > 204/174/140 > > > >--------------------------------- >Be a PS3 game guru. >Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at >Games. _________________________________________________________________ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. 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Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 nne, again I commend you for seeking help and I am so glad you found us! Either way, whatever you choose, we are here for you. You mention having a Swedish band. And in another post you mention a possible slip. I may be speaking out of turn here, but I bet if you send your x-rays to Dr. Aceves he can give you his professional opinion. It is highly possible that your band may not be slipped, but may have been placed in the wrong position on the stomach which I believe could cause some of the symptoms you have explained here. I am not a pro, but have read enough messages boards to know what you are experiencing is not the norm. I really really hope you get it figured out and soon! M DOB 3/1/05 280/160/158 under goal! 122lbs GONE! 5ft 6in, Size 8 http://www.tracyslapband.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of marianne_xo Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:24 AM Subject: Re: actually starting Dana-- I get fills regularly, just had one and there is NO restriction from early evening on. I understand about self control, however, there has been no consistency from which to get a routine that has successful results with all the fluctuations of the band. Believe the 30 lbs, it's there A friend of mine has lost $167 lbs in 2 yrs--RNY and she's still losing. I've heard that it can stop working after 5 yrs and I get that there are pros and cons to everything. There is no magical cure- all, I know what I have to do, however MY band has been a moving target so to speak. I spoke with a bariatric assistant this evening and he said that he's spoke with several other patients in my exact situtation with the exact band (swedish). I've not given up hope, I know there is a way for me, thanks for your support. nne > > > > Dawn > > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a deposit > of > > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, she > > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on the > > doctors sechudle. > > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 unless > > you are directly flying into Mexico. > > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying into > San > > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either to > the > > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at the > > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > hotel > > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to hospital > > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk those > > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal. > > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > enought > > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that > > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a great day, > Trina Antonopoulos > > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 We do find that some patients listen to the rules and do not really get them. This makes it harder for them to follow them. It is difficult to know to what extent the rules are understood. We are trying harder to make sure patients truely and fully understand how the band works. All patients that are now scheduled for surgery receive an online tutorial, the Emmi video, unfortunately only 25% of the patients watch them There is no doubt about it , the most successful patients are the most informed ones. Nina Mills <tracy@...> wrote: Rosie, and everyone, thanks so much for recommending my web site for info. I am so glad it helps people, truly. Also, I have to commend you for saying what you have. You didn’t have to, but you are trying to help someone else by telling them you messed up by not listening. You are right, and I think Dr. Aceves and staff are really trying to come up with better ways of educating people post operatively other then hand outs and this email list. I think the whole reason I started my web page is because I felt there just wasn’t enough info out there, but mainly because I wanted to give people the info the way I wanted to hear it. Shooting straight from the hip, the good the bad and the ugly. I wanted people to know it is perfectly normal to fear going to Mexico. I did! Ask Nina how freaked out I was when I checked in to the hotel in Mexicali. To be nervous is normal. To be scared is normal. To not know or even to test the band is normal. I think and some others have corrected a few things. Yes, do not keep eating past 15 to 20 min because it does defeat the bands purpose. Some people cannot drink with their meals especially if they are super tight. I can drink with my meal and it allows me to eat more. Everyone is different. Congrats on your weight loss Rosie! MDOB 3/1/05280/160/158 under goal! 122lbs GONE!5ft 6in, Size 8http://www.tracyslapband.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: actually starting I have a comment for everyone that has been banded or is thinking about being banded. In my opinion, not enough information is given as to how to eat with the band. I was banded in May of 06 and have only lost about 10 lbs in all...however, I was doing many many things wrong...for example...I was told not to drink with my meals...but I wasn't explained why...so I drank with my meals. I was never told to eat as fast as possible...otherwise if you eat real slow you can eat as much as a non-banded person. I was also never explained how to eat....protein first...then veggies then carbs...I went to 's webpage http://tracyslapband.com/index.htm and I read over it and found many things I've been doing wrong. We get information when we are banded...but just not enough...I think people think you get banded...and boom..you're skinny...it doesn't work like that...you have to follow the directions...I found 's website very informative and I encourage every one that is newly banded and even those that are old timers with little success to tweak their eating routine and follow the instructions...I have and have lost another 6 lbs....the band is not a magic wand...its simply a tool that works as long as you work with it. This is my opinion...does anyone else agree?Rosie Nina Eguia Patient Coordinator, Dr Aceves888 344 3916 , 619-962-8142nina_eguia@... Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.Try the Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 //Gees...I feel picked on...// Rosie I did not mean to make you feel this way. Don't be discouraged by the replies. You helped more people then you know. Please do not stop posting. I would like to know how your weight loss progresses now that you know the rules. 7/18/05 280/180/140 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thank you , you seem like a genuinely sweet, caring and nonjudgemental person and I really appreciate your thoughts and perspectives----I feel encouraged to seek out what's causing my dilemma, I know there's something "bigger" going on then what I'm in control of, though I know some don't understand that unless they themselves have experienced it first hand----I appreciate your support Mills <tracy@...> wrote: nne, again I commend you for seeking help and I am so glad you found us! Either way, whatever you choose, we are here for you. You mention having a Swedish band. And in another post you mention a possible slip. I may be speaking out of turn here, but I bet if you send your x-rays to Dr. Aceves he can give you his professional opinion. It is highly possible that your band may not be slipped, but may have been placed in the wrong position on the stomach which I believe could cause some of the symptoms you have explained here. I am not a pro, but have read enough messages boards to know what you are experiencing is not the norm. I really really hope you get it figured out and soon! MDOB 3/1/05280/160/158 under goal! 122lbs GONE!5ft 6in, Size 8http://www.tracyslapband.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of marianne_xoSent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:24 AM Subject: Re: actually starting Dana-- I get fills regularly, just had one and there is NO restriction from early evening on. I understand about self control, however, there has been no consistency from which to get a routine that has successful results with all the fluctuations of the band. Believe the 30 lbs, it's there :(A friend of mine has lost $167 lbs in 2 yrs--RNY and she's still losing. I've heard that it can stop working after 5 yrs and I get that there are pros and cons to everything. There is no magical cure-all, I know what I have to do, however MY band has been a moving target so to speak. I spoke with a bariatric assistant this evening and he said that he's spoke with several other patients in my exact situtation with the exact band (swedish). I've not given up hope, I know there is a way for me, thanks for your support. nne> >> > Dawn> > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a deposit > of> > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, she> > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on the> > doctors sechudle.> > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 unless> > you are directly flying into Mexico.> > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying into > San> > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either to > the> > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at the> > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > hotel> > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to hospital> > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk those> > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal.> > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > enought> > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that> > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ.> > > > > >> > > > > > > Have a great day,> Trina Antonopoulos > > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > The fish are biting.> Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.> We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 lol---out of the kitchen is right! Thanks!rondana@... wrote: nne, How many cc's does the swedish bands hold? Do you think there may be a significant difference in the Inamed & swedish bands? I wonder??? Also..., on this site, has lost over 170lbs and will have her 1yr anniversary at the end of the month!! So, big weight loss is very possible with the band....try everything you can think of to get that band working even at night. Just to add..even tho you probably know :-)...follow the rules..lots of water in between meals...exercise..and stay out of the kitchen!! LOL..Dana -------------- Original message -------------- From: "marianne_xo" <marianne_xo > Dana-- I get fills regularly, just had one and there is NO restriction from early evening on. I understand about self control, however, there has been no consistency from which to get a routine that has successful results with all the fluctuations of the band. Believe the 30 lbs, it's there :(A friend of mine has lost $167 lbs in 2 yrs--RNY and she's still losing. I've heard that it can stop working after 5 yrs and I get that there are pros and cons to everything. There is no magical cure-all, I know what I have to do, however MY band has been a moving target so to speak. I spoke with a bariatric assistant this evening and he said that he's spoke with several other patients in my exact situtation with the exact band (swedish). I've not given up hope, I know there is a way for me, thanks for your support. nne> >> > Dawn> > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mai l a deposit > of> > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, she> > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on the> > doctors sechudle.> > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 unless> > you are directly flying into Mexico.> > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying into > San> > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either to > the> > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at the> > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > hotel> > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to hospital> > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk those> > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal.> > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > enought> > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that> > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ.> > > > > >> > > > > > > Have a great day,> Trina Antonopoulos > > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > The fish are biting.> Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.> We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 170 lbs in 1 yr? omg, that's incredible. I'm Bringing my band box to Dr. next fill appointment. Off the top of my head, I think it holds 9-10cc's--it's the big one.rondana@... wrote: nne, How many cc's does the swedish bands hold? Do you think there may be a significant difference in the Inamed & swedish bands? I wonder??? Also..., on this site, has lost over 170lbs and will have her 1yr anniversary at the end of the month!! So, big weight loss is very possible with the band....try everything you can think of to get that band working even at night. Just to add..even tho you probably know :-)...follow the rules..lots of water in between meals...exercise..and stay out of the kitchen!! LOL..Dana -------------- Original message -------------- From: "marianne_xo" <marianne_xo > Dana-- I get fills regularly, just had one and there is NO restriction from early evening on. I understand about self control, however, there has been no consistency from which to get a routine that has successful results with all the fluctuations of the band. Believe the 30 lbs, it's there :(A friend of mine has lost $167 lbs in 2 yrs--RNY and she's still losing. I've heard that it can stop working after 5 yrs and I get that there are pros and cons to everything. There is no magical cure-all, I know what I have to do, however MY band has been a moving target so to speak. I spoke with a bariatric assistant this evening and he said that he's spoke with several other patients in my exact situtation with the exact band (swedish). I've not given up hope, I know there is a way for me, thanks for your support. nne> >> > Dawn> > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mai l a deposit > of> > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, she> > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on the> > doctors sechudle.> > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 unless> > you are directly flying into Mexico.> > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying into > San> > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either to > the> > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at the> > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > hotel> > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to hospital> > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk those> > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal.> > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > enought> > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that> > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ.> > > > > >> > > > > > > Have a great day,> Trina Antonopoulos > > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > The fish are biting.> Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.> Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hello to all of you!! I was recently banded and i am going for my first fill on the 29th. I have lost a little weight so far and i am okay with that because i was told that the weight will start coming off after the fills ( I hope). I want to thank you all so much for the informations that you are contributing in this forum because i for sure was doing a lot of the things that i wasn't suppose to be doing. Thanks again,>M > > > > > > > > Dawn > > > > > > > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a > >deposit > > > of > > > > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date, > >she > > > > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on > >the > > > > doctors sechudle. > > > > > > > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008 > >unless > > > > you are directly flying into Mexico. > > > > > > > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying > >into > > > San > > > > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either > >to > > > the > > > > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at > >the > > > > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the > > > hotel > > > > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to > >hospital > > > > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk > >those > > > > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal. > > > > > > > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close > > > enought > > > > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that > > > > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > Don't pick lemons. > > > See all the new > > > > >>A3MDc2B > > > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> 2007 cars at > > > > >>A3MDc2B > > > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > The fish are biting. > > > Get > > > > >>p/spons > > > oredsearch_v2.php? > >o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> more > > > visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rena Brown > > DOB: 9/26/06 > > 204/174/140 > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Be a PS3 game guru. > >Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at > >Games. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win? > http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/? href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Hi , Thanks for the info...I sure did not know that...I've been trying to slow down on my eating...I could have sworn that I was told by Dr. Compos that my meal should now take 30-45 minutes instead of 10-15...But since you've done so well I'll go by what your saying...I do trust your wisdom, since you've been on this journey longer than I have...Thanks a bunch!!! Rena Mills <tracy@...> wrote: Hey Rena, you have read by now I am sure, but you should not take 45 min to eat because doing that allows you to eat more. Even if you are sticking to the portion amounts, you should finish within 20 min tops. Sticking to a eating schedule helps so that you can time your water intake correctly. I remember having a hard time with the timing because of work. I had to hide water bottles from myself after eating or I would subconsciously drink before I was supposed to. It is hard to wait 2 hrs after eating to drink, and yet still get in the recommended amount of water. (Especially if you aren’t fond of water to begin with, or you are tight and have to drink slowly). I should tell people however that the pouch rules on my site were meant originally for RNY patients so you need to take that into consideration, especially when it talks about water loading and some other things. You cannot gulp water with the band, therefore it is hard to “water load” when you are restricted. I do recommend drinking as much water as you can 30 min before your meal because it does help with satiety. MDOB 3/1/05280/160/158 under goal! 122lbs GONE!5ft 6in, Size 8http://www.tracyslapband.com From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of rena brownSent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: actually starting That is strange....I was told to eat slow...That it should take me 45 minutes to eat instead of 10 like it use to...Now I'm confused...I guess I'm losing so I won't worry to much about it...Thanks, RenaRosie Sastre <roanchhotmail> wrote: This is what it says on 's website:IDEAL MEAL PROCESS (rules of the pouch):1. The patient must time meals five hours apart or the patient will get toohungry in between.2. The patient needs to eat finely cut meat and raw or slightly cookedveggies with each meal.3. The patient must eat the entire meal in 5-15 minutes. A 30-45 minute mealwill cause failure.4. No liquids for 1 ½ hours to 2 hours after each meal.5. After 1 ½ to 2 hours, begin sipping water and over the next three hoursslowly increase water intake.6. 3 hours after last meal, begin drinking LOTS of water/fluids.7. 15 minutes before the next meal, drink as much as possible as fast aspossible. This is called "water loading," IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DRINKING OVERTHE LAST FEW HOURS, THIS 'WATER LOADING' WILL NOT WORK.8. You can water load at any time 2-3 hours before your next meal if you gethungry, which will cause a strong feeling of fullness.THREE PRINCIPLES FOR GAINING AND MAINTAINING SATIETY:1. Fill pouch full quickly at each meal2. Stay full by slowing the emptying of the pouch. (Eat solids. No liquids15minutes before and none until 1 ½ hours after the meal). A scientific testshowed that a meal of egg/toast/milk had almost all emptied out of the pouchafter 45 minutes. Without milk, just egg and toast, more than ½ of the mealstill remained in the pouch after 1 ½ hours.3. Protein, protein, protein. Three meals a day. No high calorie liquids.>From: rena brown >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: actually starting>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:06:21 -0800 (PST)>>Hi, I don't understand one thing...You were told to eat real fast? Who told >you this? It's the 1st I've heard...I was banded in September...>> Thanks, Rena>> wrote:> I have a comment for everyone that has been banded or is >thinking>about being banded. In my opinion, not enough information is given>as to how to eat with the band. I was banded in May of 06 and have>only lost about 10 lbs in all...however, I was doing many many>things wrong...for example...I was told not to drink with my>meals...but I wasn't explained why...so I drank with my meals. I>was never told to eat as fast as possible...otherwise if you eat>real slow you can eat as much as a non-banded person. I was also>never explained how to eat....protein first...then veggies then>carbs...I went to 's webpage http://tracyslapband.com/index.htm>and I read over it and found many things I've been doing wrong. We>get information when we are banded...but just not enough...I think>people think you get banded...and boom..you're skinny...it doesn't>work like that...you have to follow the directions...I found 's>website very informative and I encourage every one that is newly>banded and even those that are old timers with little success to>tweak their eating routine and follow the instructions...I have and>have lost another 6 lbs....the band is not a magic wand...its simply>a tool that works as long as you work with it. This is my>opinion...does anyone else agree?>>Rosie>>> > >> > > Dawn> > >> > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a>deposit> > of> > > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date,>she> > > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on>the> > > doctors sechudle.> > >> > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008>unless> > > you are directly flying into Mexico.> > >> > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying>into> > San> > > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either>to> > the> > > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at>the> > > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the> > hotel> > > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to>hospital> > > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk>those> > > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal.> > >> > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close> > enought> > > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that> > > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ.> > >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >> > Don't pick lemons.> > See all the new> >>>A3MDc2B> > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> 2007 cars at > >>>A3MDc2B> > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> Autos.> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> > The fish are biting.> > Get> >>>p/spons> > oredsearch_v2.php?>o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> more> > visitors on your site using Search Marketing.> >>>>>>>> Rena Brown> DOB: 9/26/06> 204/174/140>>>>--------------------------------->Be a PS3 game guru.>Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at >Games._________________________________________________________________Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Way to go Rosie!!!! Rosie Sastre <roanch@...> wrote: I just had a fill..I needed it...I just didn't realize it...I also cannot drink while eating right now after my fill...but before that I could. I was definetely eating the wrong foods...that's why I say everyone really needs to be informed. After my fill...I feel a huge difference....now I can only eat a little bit..but I am now forcing myself not to drink AT ALL close to my meal times...even though its hard because I do crave water with my meals. Now if I could just get my butt exercising...I'm sure I'd loose even more but for some reason I haven't been able to get motivated enough...every day I say Im going to do it...and every day I don't. I just want everone to realize the band doesn't work if you don't work with it...I'm a perfect example...I'll keep you guys posted on my progress now that I'm changing my ways...Rosie>From: Michel >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Re: actually starting>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:06:38 -0800 (PST)>>Rosie, it sounds to me like you need a fill, there is absolutely no way >that I can eat and drink. If I drink with my meal my food comes back up. >You also might be eating the wrong foods. Protein, Protein, Protein, >Chicken, meat, veggies, fruit, soups, salads, lean cuisines, water, water, >water, once in a while I have ice cream, for snack I have Wheat thins with >diced tomatoes. On my bad days, I stay away from food all together and >have sobe drinks and water, and soups. My weakness is chips and dips and I >usually have a few at parties and that is it. The key is stop eating when >you feel full, if you aren't getting full then a fill is needed. I hope >this is a little helpful. Thanks, >>rena brown wrote: Hi, I don't understand >one thing...You were told to eat real fast? Who told you this? It's the 1st >I've heard...I was banded in September...>> Thanks, Rena>> wrote:> I have a comment for everyone that has been banded or is thinking>about being banded. In my opinion, not enough information is given>as to how to eat with the band. I was banded in May of 06 and have>only lost about 10 lbs in all...however, I was doing many many>things wrong...for example...I was told not to drink with my>meals...but I wasn't explained why...so I drank with my meals. I>was never told to eat as fast as possible...otherwise if you eat>real slow you can eat as much as a non-banded person. I was also>never explained how to eat....protein first...then veggies then>carbs...I went to 's webpage http://tracyslapband.com/index.htm>and I read over it and found many things I've been doing wrong. We>get information when we are banded...but just not enough...I think>people think you get banded...and boom..you're skinny...it doesn't>work like that...you have to follow the directions...I found 's>website very informative and I encourage every one that is newly>banded and even those that are old timers with little success to>tweak their eating routine and follow the instructions...I have and>have lost another 6 lbs....the band is not a magic wand...its simply>a tool that works as long as you work with it. This is my>opinion...does anyone else agree?>>Rosie>>> > >> > > Dawn> > >> > > After you know you got your money for sure you will mail a>deposit> > of> > > $500 to Nina or an address she gives you, to secure your date,>she> > > will have probably all ready given you some dates depending on>the> > > doctors sechudle.> > >> > > From what I was told, you will not need a passport until 2008>unless> > > you are directly flying into Mexico.> > >> > > I'm having my RNY Gastric By Pass on the 10th, we are flying>into> > San> > > Diego on the 8th being picked up by a driver and driven either>to> > the> > > hotel first or hospital first (this part I'm not sure about) at>the> > > hospital they will do some pre op work, then you go back to the> > hotel> > > and get your last supper, LOL, then the next morning go to>hospital> > > and get your surgery, then you get up from that bed and walk>those> > > halls, the more you walk they say the better and faster you heal.> > >> > > Where do you live, in might even be possible if you are close> > enought> > > to just drive, it is my understand from looking at a map, that> > > Mexacalli is about 1 hour from Yuma AZ.> > >> > > > > >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >> > Don't pick lemons.> > See all the new> >>>A3MDc2B> > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> 2007 cars at > >>>A3MDc2B> > HNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3Y2Fycw--> Autos.> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> > The fish are biting.> > Get> >>>p/spons> > oredsearch_v2.php?>o=US2140 & cmp= & ctv=Q107Tagline & s=Y & s2=EM & b=50> more> > visitors on your site using Search Marketing.> >>>>>>>> Rena Brown> DOB: 9/26/06> 204/174/140>>>---------------------------------> Be a PS3 game guru.>Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at >Games.>>>>> Michel> Bullhead, AZ>>>>--------------------------------->Don't pick lemons.>See all the new 2007 cars at Autos._________________________________________________________________Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! 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