Re: Varta vs. Toshiba.................

[Guest guest]

I have a comment...what you did with the batteries, the tapping and such, is

that magic?? sandy

Barry <mish_354@...> wrote:To all my fellow Nuke users,

I was told back when I was first hooked

up last December, that Toshiba outlasts the Varta batteries and they

do cost $1 more a package than Varta. I tried both brands, and I also

tapped each battery before inserting them as well as storing them

with the plus side down (holes side). To my amazement, the Varta does

outlast the Toshiba by a good 5-15 hours in my case. When my Varta

batteries do run out in a few months, I will surely order them

instead of the other. Anyone have these experiences to share with us?

Barry in PA. Nuked 10/30/02 Contour 24 3-G

[Guest guest]

Barry,

The choice of batteries depends on the power

requirements of your 3G. When you are mapped, the

audiologist has a gauge that tells her if you are in

the green, yellow or red zone for power requirements.

If you are in the green and yellow, the Varta (now

Power One) batteries are recommended. If you are in

the red zone - you must use the Toshiba as you will

get only a few hours from the Varta batteries. If you

use the Toshiba and you are in the green or yellow

zone, you will not get as many hours from the

batteries as the Varta.

It's a pretty long and detailed reason why but in your

case - I would say you are in either the green or the

yellow which is great! Next time you see your

audiologist, you might ask her whether you are in the

green, yellow or red. In fact, I'd ask her to show

you the gauge.

Alice

N24 11/99

N24C 04/03

Bilateral

[Guest guest]

Hi Barry,

The Toshiba batteries are supposed to better for those who have very

high drain maps. This is because the Toshibas let go of their charge

more easily than the Vartas. If your map is well within the green area

on the mapping screen then the Vartas are the batteries for you.

I use the Vartas and I also can use the Duracells and Evereadys.

The last time I went out we were in a very noisy restaurant and I had

forgotten to bring spares. My batteries went dead right after we

ordered our drinks so all I had to do was run a block over to a drug

store and buy a package of 675's (the drinks had just been set down on

the table when I got back). They cost over $8 but at least I was good

to go for the rest of the meal...actually they gave me the same 2 1/2

days as the Vartas!

Nuked 9/28/00

Hooked 10/26/00

I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!

[Guest guest]

> I have a comment...what you did with the batteries, the tapping and

such, is that magic?? sandy

It doesn't do a single thing. It makes people think their batteries

are lasting longer, but they're really not. I looked at a number of

sites for batteries and found no references about this.

Pete

[Guest guest]

---Dear Sandy,

If one taps the batteries once the tab is removed, it

increases the life of each battery by several hours. It does work.

Barry In , Sandy Chen <cishanghaichen@y...>

wrote:

> I have a comment...what you did with the batteries, the tapping and

such, is that magic?? sandy

>

> Barry <mish_354@y...> wrote:To all my fellow Nuke users,

> I was told back when I was first hooked

> up last December, that Toshiba outlasts the Varta batteries and

they

> do cost $1 more a package than Varta. I tried both brands, and I

also

> tapped each battery before inserting them as well as storing them

> with the plus side down (holes side). To my amazement, the Varta

does

> outlast the Toshiba by a good 5-15 hours in my case. When my Varta

> batteries do run out in a few months, I will surely order them

> instead of the other. Anyone have these experiences to share with

us?

> Barry in PA. Nuked 10/30/02 Contour 24 3-G

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/9/03 8:56:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

cishanghaichen@... writes:

> If you have 2 hearing aids then open up two batteries at the same time.

> Tap one of the batteries but leave the other as is. If in the end one

> outlasts the other..then we'll know the answer

I have mentioned this before.....I heard its more a matter of giving it a few

seconds to get some oxygen in there........to activate the

zinc.........rather than the " tapping " ?????????

[Guest guest]

If this works, why can't I find any independent reference anywhere

that says so? I looked at battery manufacture's sites, I looked at a

number of technological sites, I did google searches, I did

megacrawler searches, Lycos, I used different parameters and names, I

did name brands, I did every topic names I could think of, I waded

through hours of techie minuteae about all kinds of batteries and

their projected life spans under different conditions and coudn't

even find a referremce to any kind of tapping. The word itself isn't

even mentioned. Waiting a full minute for the battery to get up to

voltage is found, and opening the battery case overnight to vent

moisture is found, but nothing about tapping.

I'm sorry, I looked and looked, I even went way back into my NRI

course books about batteries and how different ones are made and how

various types of batteries generate their voltages and how long they

will work under different conditions and there's just no mention of

this. I've used hearing aid batteries for almost 50 years and air

batteries since they've been on the market and heard nothing about

this until I came on this group.

I would like it to be true, but I have to conclude that it is not

true as there is nothing to be found in the liturature about it

anywhere that I have looked. If anyone has a verifiable source for

this information, I woud surely like to have it so I can check this

out for myself.

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[Guest guest]

I propose doing an experiment. If you have 2 hearing aids then open up two

batteries at the same time. Tap one of the batteries but leave the other as is.

If in the end one outlasts the other..then we'll know the answer. Sandy

ka3rfe <phopping@...> wrote:If this works, why can't I find any

independent reference anywhere

that says so? I looked at battery manufacture's sites, I looked at a

number of technological sites, I did google searches, I did

megacrawler searches, Lycos, I used different parameters and names, I

did name brands, I did every topic names I could think of, I waded

through hours of techie minuteae about all kinds of batteries and

their projected life spans under different conditions and coudn't

even find a referremce to any kind of tapping. The word itself isn't

even mentioned. Waiting a full minute for the battery to get up to

voltage is found, and opening the battery case overnight to vent

moisture is found, but nothing about tapping.

I'm sorry, I looked and looked, I even went way back into my NRI

course books about batteries and how different ones are made and how

various types of batteries generate their voltages and how long they

will work under different conditions and there's just no mention of

this. I've used hearing aid batteries for almost 50 years and air

batteries since they've been on the market and heard nothing about

this until I came on this group.

I would like it to be true, but I have to conclude that it is not

true as there is nothing to be found in the liturature about it

anywhere that I have looked. If anyone has a verifiable source for

this information, I woud surely like to have it so I can check this

out for myself.

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[Guest guest]

Pete,

No one said this was verified information.. someone merely said it

was suggested by their audiologist and it seemed to work for them as

it has seemed to work for several others. Nothing was said about it

being documented and if folks want to try tapping the batteries the

only thing it requires is a few finger movements for 3 batteries.

Some of us ran a short experiment with this a while back and reported

our own personal findings.

I don't want this to become a big issue on .. it was mentioned

merely as a suggestion so why not move onto other things and keep us

going with your expertise in the electrical aspects of things.

<smiles>

Have a great weekend.

Silly

If this works, why can't I find any independent reference anywhere

> that says so? I looked at battery manufacture's sites, I looked at

a

> number of technological sites, I did google searches, I did

> megacrawler searches, Lycos, I used different parameters and names,

I

> did name brands, I did every topic names I could think of, I waded

> through hours of techie minuteae about all kinds of batteries and

> their projected life spans under different conditions and coudn't

> even find a referremce to any kind of tapping. The word itself

isn't

> even mentioned. Waiting a full minute for the battery to get up to

> voltage is found, and opening the battery case overnight to vent

> moisture is found, but nothing about tapping.

>

> I'm sorry, I looked and looked, I even went way back into my NRI

> course books about batteries and how different ones are made and

how

> various types of batteries generate their voltages and how long

they

> will work under different conditions and there's just no mention of

> this. I've used hearing aid batteries for almost 50 years and air

> batteries since they've been on the market and heard nothing about

> this until I came on this group.

>

> I would like it to be true, but I have to conclude that it is not

> true as there is nothing to be found in the liturature about it

> anywhere that I have looked. If anyone has a verifiable source for

> this information, I woud surely like to have it so I can check this

> out for myself.

>

[Guest guest]

Wouldn't work for me. Five minutes after putting them in, I'd forget

which one was which :-)

> I propose doing an experiment. If you have 2 hearing aids then

open up two batteries at the same time. Tap one of the batteries but

leave the other as is. If in the end one outlasts the other..then

we'll know the answer. Sandy

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[Guest guest]

Ok, here is the deal. Someone is going to do this the proper way

and settle the issue for once and all. LOL

Starting the next time you change batteries, write down the day

and time. For a month, chart the total hours. Tap the batteries

faithfully. To make this work, you must chart the total on time, so

you will need to write down the start and end times. When you turn on

the 3G, write it down. When you shut it off, wirte it down. Tally up

the hours for each set of batteries.

After one month, do the same thing but no tapping. Again, chart

the hours and tally up the hours for each set of batteries.

Because every day will be different, you will come up with a

pretty decent set of results after averaging the two tests. To make

sure the factors are fairly constant, put the 3G in its case every

night. Use the batteries from the same batch. Use the batteries

until they are truly dead. And no less than a month per test.

Ok, Barry gets to do this. LOL We look forward to the results by

the end of July.

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Portland, Oregon

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