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You will make that decision when the time comes because you will be

dissatisfied with your progress hearing with the implant. Or maybe you will

just

decide to have it because you want it. Certainly can't hurt! I never had any

speech therapy. I made up my mind that I was going to just sit back and let the

sounds all come to me and boy did they! I guess I did my own speech therapy.

I made sure to listen actively and sometimes I would play this little game and

close my eyes for a short time to see whether I could continue to understand

a conversation that I knew I was also lipreading. Or maybe I would hear a

sound that I didn't immediuately recognize and try to guess what it was.

In a message dated 5/21/2004 7:23:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

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With severe to profound hearing loss, how

do I know if hearing speech therapy is what I need?

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I don't exactly get what you mean.

I have severe to profound, now fitted with BTE, still cannot understand

words, can hear noise environmental sounds like objects dropping, door

slammed. I do lipread to supplement the low frequency sound I hear, with BTE

still cannot hear the high frequency sound.

Now, this is the confusing part, the audi told me that I cannot understand

without lipreading because I got used to lipreading! Now, how would I know

if what he is saying is true or I cannot understand because I cannot hear

high frequency sound above 2khz up to now? By the way, I can hear 2khz, but

not above, and below 2khz, I cannot hear 1khz, then below that, I can.

With the above info, do you think I need speech therapy or CI?

Regards/

Jerome

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You will make that decision when the time comes because you will be

dissatisfied with your progress hearing with the implant. Or maybe you will

just decide to have it because you want it. Certainly can't hurt! I never

had any speech therapy. I made up my mind that I was going to just sit back

and let the sounds all come to me and boy did they! I guess I did my own

speech therapy.

I made sure to listen actively and sometimes I would play this little game

and close my eyes for a short time to see whether I could continue to

understand a conversation that I knew I was also lipreading. Or maybe I

would hear a sound that I didn't immediuately recognize and try to guess

what it was.

In a message dated 5/21/2004 7:23:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jt1@... writes:

With severe to profound hearing loss, how do I know if hearing speech

therapy is what I need?

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Jerome,

How will you know? By taking the therapy. We cannot answer that.

Like I just said, for now, forget the CI and concentrate on this phase

of the evaluation. Thinking about the CI is going to detract you and

even if you think the CI is the only viable option, you need to give

the BTE trial all you got. Its only for a month. Leave the computer

sleep for a few days and get out and listen.

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I wish I could do what you said easily... But currently I'm getting some

headache out of this BTE. And when talking with someone with voice of

varying loudness, it stuck painful and would get some words not audible.

Right now I'm typing this email I'm wearing them both.

Regards/

Jerome

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Jerome,

How will you know? By taking the therapy. We cannot answer that.

Like I just said, for now, forget the CI and concentrate on this phase of

the evaluation. Thinking about the CI is going to detract you and even if

you think the CI is the only viable option, you need to give the BTE trial

all you got. Its only for a month. Leave the computer sleep for a few days

and get out and listen.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

Customer: I'm running Windows '98.

Tech: Yes.

Customer: My computer isn't working now.

Tech: Yes, you said that.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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You know Jerome... that is about the same when you first get

hooked up with the CI. There is an adjustment period with

anything you get. I tend to turn down the volume, then

graduatly turn it up again, you might need to do that for

awhile with the trial HA's.

susan & hobbes

michigan

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Jerome,

Write a 30 day journal describing your experiences with your BTEs -- both

good and bad. Having this information in writing will give you and your CI

audi a better idea of how the BTEs are really working.

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Jerome,

How will you know? By taking the therapy. We cannot answer that.

Like I just said, for now, forget the CI and concentrate on this phase

of the evaluation. Thinking about the CI is going to detract you and

even if you think the CI is the only viable option, you need to give

the BTE trial all you got. Its only for a month. Leave the computer

sleep for a few days and get out and listen.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

Customer: I'm running Windows '98.

Tech: Yes.

Customer: My computer isn't working now.

Tech: Yes, you said that.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

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Jerome,

I wonder if your HAs need to be turned down a bit? I know you talked before

about having problems with recruitment. Did you mention this to the CI audi?

Perhaps he/she can reprogram the aids so that the sound output is more

comfortable. Just throwing out some ideas here for you...

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Jerome,

How will you know? By taking the therapy. We cannot answer that.

Like I just said, for now, forget the CI and concentrate on this phase of

the evaluation. Thinking about the CI is going to detract you and even if

you think the CI is the only viable option, you need to give the BTE trial

all you got. Its only for a month. Leave the computer sleep for a few days

and get out and listen.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

Customer: I'm running Windows '98.

Tech: Yes.

Customer: My computer isn't working now.

Tech: Yes, you said that.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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Hmmmm... The one I received is analog BTE, I will be requesting for digital

BTE. Unfortunately currently they only have analog BTE.

Regards/

Jerome

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some people get headache when they first get ci... due to not used to the

sounds yet hang in there jerome

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Yeah, too bad the current BTE I'm trying is not digital. No compression to

solve the recruitment right now. My audi said he will be getting a Widex

Senso BTE, I'll be waiting for it. I'm not aware of Senso's technical

specification. But I do have it has many compression channels since my

hearing loss is cookie bite and not ski slope. My currency CIC has 9

compression channels which is ideal for me, but unfortunately it's CIC and

not BTE. Triano has 16 channels but only 4 compression channels. I've

inquired to Sonic Innovations before if they have plan to put their products

here in Philippines unfortunately no information...

Regards/

Jerome

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Jerome,

I wonder if your HAs need to be turned down a bit? I know you talked before

about having problems with recruitment. Did you mention this to the CI audi?

Perhaps he/she can reprogram the aids so that the sound output is more

comfortable. Just throwing out some ideas here for you...

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Jerome,

How will you know? By taking the therapy. We cannot answer that.

Like I just said, for now, forget the CI and concentrate on this phase of

the evaluation. Thinking about the CI is going to detract you and even if

you think the CI is the only viable option, you need to give the BTE trial

all you got. Its only for a month. Leave the computer sleep for a few days

and get out and listen.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

Customer: I'm running Windows '98.

Tech: Yes.

Customer: My computer isn't working now.

Tech: Yes, you said that.

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

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jerome

i ma preling,severe to profound. i liked the analog hearing aids better than

digital aids. digital aids did not sound better than analog so you may not be

missing anything if digital are unavailable.

it will be very interesting to see how well you do with speech recognition test

with your HA btes.

joni

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Joni,

This has been my experience as well. I received a pair of Oticon DigiFocus

II SP BTEs in 2001 and could never get them adjusted to the point where I

could understand speech. It is for this reason that I continue to wear my

analog Oticon 380P's.

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jerome

i ma preling,severe to profound. i liked the analog hearing aids better than

digital aids. digital aids did not sound better than analog so you may not

be missing anything if digital are unavailable.

it will be very interesting to see how well you do with speech recognition

test with your HA btes.

joni

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Hi Joni... My problem is mine is cookie bite hearing loss. When

amplification for all frequencies are the same, a little fluctuation of

loudness in the voice of the speaker is painful to my hearing, a little

softer it's no longer audible.

Like you, I'm also prelingual, but I started with moderate to severe

though... I have no idea what normal hearing is. I grew up thinking that

it's normal that I don't hear high frequency sound! I was fitted with BTE

and still think that way, until the year 1995 where custom fitted hearing

aid is availble here in Philippines that I realize what I hear is not

normal.

I do not have memory of normal hearing, however I have a preference for

hearing...

1. more frequency stimulated at the same time as possible

2. audible but soft, no feeling of being hammered

Regards/

Jerome

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jerome

i ma preling,severe to profound. i liked the analog hearing aids better than

digital aids. digital aids did not sound better than analog so you may not

be missing anything if digital are unavailable.

it will be very interesting to see how well you do with speech recognition

test with your HA btes.

joni

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I realized deciding for CI is much easier when you can't hear, so you go for

CI so you can hear. But when you can hear but cannot understand... It's a

lot more difficult to think.

Regards/

Jerome

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Joni,

This has been my experience as well. I received a pair of Oticon DigiFocus

II SP BTEs in 2001 and could never get them adjusted to the point where I

could understand speech. It is for this reason that I continue to wear my

analog Oticon 380P's.

Re: BTE received

jerome

i ma preling,severe to profound. i liked the analog hearing aids better than

digital aids. digital aids did not sound better than analog so you may not

be missing anything if digital are unavailable.

it will be very interesting to see how well you do with speech recognition

test with your HA btes.

joni

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Jerome,

This is one of the reasons why I kept my CI application hidden in a drawer

for almost a month. However, I've decided that this is a chance I'm willing

to take. I'm frustrated by not being able to hear and to the point where my

FM system isn't helping me hear. Besides, my left ear isn't getting any

benefit from a HA so what is there to lose? At least that's the way I see it

in my case.

Re: BTE received

jerome

i ma preling,severe to profound. i liked the analog hearing aids better than

digital aids. digital aids did not sound better than analog so you may not

be missing anything if digital are unavailable.

it will be very interesting to see how well you do with speech recognition

test with your HA btes.

joni

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In my case.. I also cannot understand without lipreading. But what to lose?

Well... Hmm.. In my case, door knocking, door slamming, thunder, and

anything low frequency.

On another perspective, you can also think this way, human life span

averages around 70 to 90 years old assuming there's no accidents, how long

would you want NOT be able to hear human speech?

If you look it on another perspective, I will be deaf in the future with my

progressive loss, what's the difference of having it done now or tomorrow?

On the other hand... I can also look it this way, I forgot to bring the

batteries, I can't hear a single thing not even door slamming!

Regards/

Jerome

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Jerome,

This is one of the reasons why I kept my CI application hidden in a drawer

for almost a month. However, I've decided that this is a chance I'm willing

to take. I'm frustrated by not being able to hear and to the point where my

FM system isn't helping me hear. Besides, my left ear isn't getting any

benefit from a HA so what is there to lose? At least that's the way I see it

in my case.

Re: BTE received

jerome

i ma preling,severe to profound. i liked the analog hearing aids better than

digital aids. digital aids did not sound better than analog so you may not

be missing anything if digital are unavailable.

it will be very interesting to see how well you do with speech recognition

test with your HA btes.

joni

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Jerome,

Life is full of " what ifs " . No pain no gain. No effort no gain.

What will you lose by going for a cochlear implant? What will you

lose by NOT going for a cochlear implant?

Only Jerome can answer these questions. Why continue to torture

yourself with the mental process? Get thru the BTE trials and if you

are qualifed for a CI what mroe is there?

We are born with 2 ears. Bilaterals is a no brainer. Take it

from me who only has one CI, 2 is better than one.

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" My parents didn't want to move to Florida, but they turned sixty, and

that's the law. "

--Jerry Seinfeld

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Jerome,

The difference between having a CI now as opposed to later (or never) is

that you won't have to spend another day feeling frustrated by being unable

to hear.

I also have a progressive sensorineural hearing loss. In fact, I've lost

most of my hearing over the past ten years. I don't want to wait until I go

completely deaf in both ears before getting a CI. I want to get out and

enjoy life instead of sitting on the sidelines feeling like an outsider

because I can't hear.

In the grand scheme of things, just think of what you could attain with a

CI...not only low frequency sounds but also birds singing, children

laughing, telephone communication, the list goes on...

If you're not ready for a CI at this point in your life, there's nothing

wrong with that. It's a decision only *you* can make.

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jerome

i ma preling,severe to profound. i liked the analog hearing aids better than

digital aids. digital aids did not sound better than analog so you may not

be missing anything if digital are unavailable.

it will be very interesting to see how well you do with speech recognition

test with your HA btes.

joni

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