Guest guest Posted September 17, 1999 Report Share Posted September 17, 1999 I dont know where they get licorice from, but I assume it is from the root. I mention this because a side effect of licorice is raising blood pressure. J >From: CRBDJB@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] Bethesda conference >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:40:46 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From errors-165537-6758-shireen42 Fri Sep 17 09:41:06 1999 >Received: from [209.207.164.245] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB9ABBA210076D82197E0D1CFA4F5087F0; Fri Sep 17 09:41:06 1999 >Received: (qmail 16428 invoked by alias); 17 Sep 1999 16:41:10 -0000 >Received: (qmail 16383 invoked from network); 17 Sep 1999 16:41:08 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO imo22.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.66) by >pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 1999 16:41:08 -0000 >Received: from CRBDJB@... by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id >hGJFa29165 (3956) for < onelist>; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 >12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <73a05c3b.2513c90e@...> >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact > -owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list onelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist> > >From: CRBDJB@... > >Hi Roxanne-- > >You are so lucky to have Dr. Bruce Bacon as your doctor! He sat on the >panel >of experts for discussion of informed choices for treatment strategies in >the >field of alternative medicine. There were 3 other traditional doctors on >this panel, along with 2 naturopathic doctors and a doctor rep from the FDA >in Federal Regulatory Issues. > >I got the distinct impression that all of the traditional doctors could not >endorse anything that was not FDA approved. There was much discussion >regarding Milk Thistle and Licorice Root (Glycyrrhizin). It seemed there >was >some agreement that the herbal remedies needed to be composed of more than >one herb, therefore simply taking milk thistle bought from your local GNC >was >definitely not the answer for curing liver disease and that is often the >problem with the efficacy and safety of herbs and supplements. > >There was one speaker that did say something I thought was interesting >about >milk thistle, and that was it may some day become used/prescribed as a >preventative of cirrohis from alcohol, because it protects the liver. The >reason I remember this so clearly is because he said it could be marketed >like condoms for safe sex, milk thistle for safe drinking. But I do not >think Dr. Bacon was involved in this particular discussion. > >Dr. Bacon gave a talk at a different time titled " Herbal Medicine 861 has >Direct Antiproliferative Effects on Hepatic Stellate Cells " . Herbal >Medicine >861 has an antifibrotic effect in experimental liver injury and in patients >with chronic viral hepatitis, but the mechanisms responsible for this >effect >are not clear. Hepatic fibrogenesis is mediated by the activation of >hepatic >stellate cells (HSC), a process which is characterized by a dramatic >phenotypic transformation, wherein HSC acquire myofibroblastic features and >an enhanced capacity to proliferate. HSC proliferation can be induced by >mitogenic growth factors such as platelet-derived growth factor (PDGF). >Cell >proliferation is ultimately governed at the level of the cell cycle, and is >controlled in a positive fashion by cyclin D1, cyclin E, and >cyclin-dependent >kinases (CDK). The extracellular signal-regulated kinase (ERK) pathway has >been implicated in transducing mitogenic signals from growth factor >receptors >to the cell-cycle machinery. We have tested the hypothesis that herbal >medicine 861 inhibits HSC proliferation, and suppresses the effects of PDGF >on regulatory cell-cycle proteins and ERK activity. Cultured rat HSC were >growth-arrested by serum deprivation for 48 hours before exposure to PDGF >(10 >ng/ml). To test the effect of herbal medicine 861, the cells were >pretreated >with the drugh for 30 minutes before PDGF. Cell proliferation was measured >by 3H-thymidine incorporation, and the expression of cyclin D1 and E were >determined by Western blotting on HSC lysates. The kinase activities of >CDK >4 and ERK were measured by substrate phosphorylation after >immunoprecipation. >Herbal medicine 861 had a strong inhibitory effect against PDGF-induced >proliferation. In addition, herbal medicine 861 suppressed PDGF-induced >cyclin D1 levels (-74%), CDK4 activity (-87%) and ERK activity (-49%). No >significant effect was evident on cyclin E levels. In conclusion, we have >demonstrated that herbal medicine 861 has a potent inhibitory effect on >PDGF-induced proliferation of HSC. This effect may be mediated in part by >decreases in intracellular signaling through the ERK pathway, and by >suppression of cyclin D1 expression and CDK4 activity. The direct >antiproliferative effect of herbal 861 on HSC may contribute to it >antifibrotic action during liver injury. > >Now Roxanne, next time you see Dr. Bacon, please let him know I conveyed >this >to you and see what he says. He was one of the doctors I had a chance to >speak with. Once again, you are very lucky to have him! > >No Pred in Georgia >crbdjb@... > >In a message dated 9/17/99 8:45:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >CREE8V1@... >writes: > ><< > , > > Dr. Bruce Bacon is my doc. He is a great guy and we have spoken >extensively > about herbs. He is not a " cynic " but would not support me using them >until > there is clinical evidence (not just anecdotal) to prove their worth and > safety. Although he does say milk thistle is okay, he's not convinced it > does anything beneficial. What was his role at this conference? I'm >very > curious. > > Kudos to you for attending and being involved. > > Warmly, Roxanne > >> > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 --- karolynt47 <karolyn1@...> wrote: > I have been taking licorice for > about 6 months and have seen reports that it should not be taken > long- > term. Does anyone know how long is long-term and also if that is > indeed true? My naturopath cut me down from 3 capsules/day to 2. It is a good idea to take a break, a 'rest' period from almost any herb I can think of. This allows any accumulation (which can be harsh to various organs, especially the liver) a chance to be excreted. Different people will have different ways of doing this. Some might take herbs six days a week and one day off. Or take for a month then take 2 or 3 days off. After 6 months I would take a week off. Licorice taken too frequently or at too high of a dose can cause high blood pressure, and it should also be used cautiously in people who have a tendency to retain fluids. Someone who already has high blood pressure should not take it. I occasionally take a break from ALL my supplements and medications too, except my thyroid hormones. I NEVER miss a dose of those! Claudine __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Hi Karolyn Here is what I read recently: "Licorice stimulates the production of iterferon, that is said to be the key to preveting and treating immune-resoponse deficiency diseases". "Licorice root contains a natural hormone that will replace cortisone. It induces the adrenal cortex to repoduce larger amounts of cortisone and aldosterone. Licorice root acts in the body like the cortin hormone and assists in helping the body handle the stress, allowing blood sugar levels to remain normal giving a general feeling of well being. Glycyrrhizin, one of the compounds found in Licorice, has a chemical structure similar to that of human steroid hormones. It helps to raise blood suger levels to normal". "NOTE: In very large doses, it induces sodium retention and potassium depletion and can lead to hypertention and edema. Occasionally, Licorice root elevates blood pressure. Use Licorice root with potassium if high blood pressure is a problem". I hope this helps... [ ] Licorice Hi Heppers! A good day to everyone! I have been taking licorice for about 6 months and have seen reports that it should not be taken long-term. Does anyone know how long is long-term and also if that is indeed true? My naturopath cut me down from 3 capsules/day to 2. PS to Janie, I got my Symbiotics Colostrum Tuesday and am happily on my way! Love. Karolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 Thanks ! I knew it was good. I have never had a blood pressure problem, and, God knows, I don't retain water (always in the bathroom), and I don't take a lot of it; so I think I'm OK. God bless. Karolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Actually, the licorice herb Dr. D. recommends is deglizzherised licorice. Straight L. will elevate your bloodpressure, causes sodium and water retention, should be used with potassium supplement or in combination with a high potassium diet. His liver support protocol f. O's recommends: milk thistle extract 175 mg 2-5 caps. daily, artichoke extract. 160 mg ..13-18% 1-2 caps, phyllanthus 500 mg 1-2 caps, nonnies add: dandelion root 200 mg ..1-2 caps. general recomm. f .all groups : l-glutathione 500mg 1 cap 2x daily LICORICE I remember buying actual licorice root at an Asian store in Chinatown in NYC.. It was recommended to chew on when quitting smoking They looked like little twigs and tasted like..unsweetened licorice! Just a thought Merrill --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 8/11/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 yes, you're probably right - but the dutch salty licorice tasted sooo good ! LICORICE > > > I remember buying actual licorice root at an Asian store in Chinatown in > NYC.. > It was recommended to chew on when quitting smoking > They looked like little twigs and tasted like..unsweetened licorice! > Just a thought > Merrill > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.737 / Virus Database: 491 - Release Date: 8/11/2004 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 > In a message dated 12/9/2004 3:04:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, > writes: > > I wrote this way because many of the MD dosctors who prescribe it do it > this way. I am not sure there is a good reason, and no longer make a > point of saying this. > > Andy . . . . . . .. > ***** > > I've heard that it can raise blood pressure and that's why it shouldn't be > taken continuously. > > Sharon K. > > Does anyone know how to take licorice? I'm very interested in trying this but confused as to how to take it. What do they consider continuously? How long can you take it? Does the adrenal function repair itself after a period of time taking licorice? Would appreciate any help with this? Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 It also reportedly has estrogenic properties. S <tt> <BR> <BR> > In a message dated 12/9/2004 3:04:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, <BR> > writes:<BR> > <BR> > I wrote this way because many of the MD dosctors who prescribe it <BR> do it <BR> > this way. I am not sure there is a good reason, and no longer <BR> make a <BR> > point of saying this.<BR> > <BR> > Andy . . . . . . .. <BR> > *****<BR> > <BR> > I've heard that it can raise blood pressure and that's why it <BR> shouldn't be <BR> > taken continuously.<BR> > <BR> > Sharon K.<BR> > <BR> <BR> > Does anyone know how to take licorice? I'm very interested in <BR> trying this but confused as to how to take it. What do they <BR> consider continuously? How long can you take it? Does the adrenal <BR> function repair itself after a period of time taking licorice? <BR> Would appreciate any help with this? Thanks.<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Is it bad or good? Thanks, Margaret > > It also reportedly has estrogenic properties. > S > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Depends upon the individual's hormonal balance or imbalances and I would suspect that males may not want to use lots. S <tt> <BR> Is it bad or good?<BR> Thanks,<BR> Margaret<BR> <BR> > <BR> > It also reportedly has estrogenic properties.<BR> > S<BR> > <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 LICORICE As culinary, Licorice is used as flavouring agent in confectionary and drinks. It is one of the most commonly used herbal remedies because it has the ability to harmonize and blend all the other herbs in a prescription and it is useful to mask the taste of many bitter remedies. It contains glycyrrhizin which is 50 times sweeter than sugar. It is itself a most valuable medicine. It demonstrates activities as antiinflammatory, antiarthritis. The adrenal-like effect also makes it antiallergic. Its other properties includes, remedy for digestive system, laxative, reduction of stomach acid level, relieving heartburn, toxin neutralizer and many others. Preparation : Prepare the decoction with one tbps of herb in one cup of boiling water and drink 1 cup a day. Caution : avoid licorice if you have high blood pressure. Suzi What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/ New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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