Re: September 18, Little People on FOX!!

[Guest guest]

I must say this post dissapoints me very much. I was to the

understanding that this group was setup to discuss issues relating to

dwarfism. I did not join here to see other lp's exploiting

themselves. I personally don't care what others do. If you want to

market yourselves in that realm then put it on the dwarf

entertainment list.

>

> Just a reminder to everyone, according to Fox.com, on Thursday,

> September 18, 2008, 3 talent from Shortywood Productions will be

> appearing/playing on Fox's new game show " Hole in the Wall " . Also

> making a special guest appearance in full costume will be Hercules

the

> Pit Bull. Mark down your calendar for this event, it will make

you

> laugh.

>

> The link to the programming schedule on fox.

> http://fox.com/schedule.htm#week:2008-09-14

>

[Guest guest]

I THOROUGHLY agree, Jim. It is so sad to see people not only embarrass

themselves in front of millions of people, but also put a shadow on the rest

of us. But to advertise this self exploitation on the dwarfism site seems to

add insult to injury.

Marcia

-- Re: September 18, Little People on FOX!!

I must say this post dissapoints me very much. I was to the

understanding that this group was setup to discuss issues relating to

dwarfism. I did not join here to see other lp's exploiting

themselves. I personally don't care what others do. If you want to

market yourselves in that realm then put it on the dwarf

entertainment list.

>

> Just a reminder to everyone, according to Fox.com, on Thursday,

> September 18, 2008, 3 talent from Shortywood Productions will be

> appearing/playing on Fox's new game show " Hole in the Wall " . Also

> making a special guest appearance in full costume will be Hercules

the

> Pit Bull. Mark down your calendar for this event, it will make

you

> laugh.

>

> The link to the programming schedule on fox.

> http://fox.com/schedule.htm#week:2008-09-14

>

[Guest guest]

I respect the right to voice an opinion, but one persons information

post about a television show has nothing to do with the people who chose

to be on the show. What some of us would consider exploitation, is very

different from seeking a little fame. I like to see all posts and make a

choice about them myself. Watch it, don't watch it - none of anyone

elses concern.

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[Guest guest]

Ditto.

If this is going to make us laugh, are we supposed to be laughing with

the LP's or at the LP's?

Irene

> >

> > Just a reminder to everyone, according to Fox.com, on Thursday,

> > September 18, 2008, 3 talent from Shortywood Productions will be

> > appearing/playing on Fox's new game show " Hole in the Wall " . Also

> > making a special guest appearance in full costume will be Hercules

> the

> > Pit Bull. Mark down your calendar for this event, it will make

> you

> > laugh.

> >

> > The link to the programming schedule on fox.

> > http://fox.com/schedule.htm#week:2008-09-14

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Or do we further cringe at the apparent further exploitation of 'one of us' for

the meriment of Society?

I have just watched, with great pride, the English Achondroplasic fly in from

the paralymics, proudly displaying her gold medals!!!!!!

Given the choice of watching this fantastic achievement or Hercules the Pit Bull

(with our without lipstick), I have absolutely no doubt in my mind which I

prefer.

Fred

Re: September 18, Little People on FOX!!

Ditto.

If this is going to make us laugh, are we supposed to be laughing with

the LP's or at the LP's?

Irene

> >

> > Just a reminder to everyone, according to Fox.com, on Thursday,

> > September 18, 2008, 3 talent from Shortywood Productions will be

> > appearing/playing on Fox's new game show " Hole in the Wall " . Also

> > making a special guest appearance in full costume will be Hercules

> the

> > Pit Bull. Mark down your calendar for this event, it will make

> you

> > laugh.

> >

> > The link to the programming schedule on fox.

> > http://fox.com/schedule.htm#week:2008-09-14

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you watch or don't watch. Tomorrow I would like to see

this subject dropped we don't need people writing about what they thought or

didn't think. If you want to watch then do so but with an open mind. In their

eyes it's just a game and I don't think anyone went into this thinking I will

degrade LP's.

Irwin

In a message dated 9/18/2008 2:30:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

.Manasas@... writes:

I respect the right to voice an opinion, but one persons information

post about a television show has nothing to do with the people who chose

to be on the show. What some of us would consider exploitation, is very

different from seeking a little fame. I like to see all posts and make a

choice about them myself. Watch it, don't watch it - none of anyone

elses concern.

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[Guest guest]

Well maybe if enough people voted against

" entertainment posts " you would have a case.

But once again LPs sit by and expect others will

take care of it and then you complain later...

I agree too many LPs make jerks of themselves

and in turn hurt us who are trying to lead normal lives. No other

National minority group tolerates such rampant

and derogatory exploitation in the name of being fair to all

Would NOW post ads for strip clubs on their site?

Not until a lynch mob charges the Lpa board meetings will this change

I fought the Nacho man/human seeing tray and endured more negatives

Than positives for complainging about that disgusting display.

Dwarf tossing isn't the only bad image LPA and the dwarf community

should fight.

Tony

On Sep 18, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Marcia <crazycatlady2003@...> wrote:

> I THOROUGHLY agree, Jim. It is so sad to see people not only embarrass

> themselves in front of millions of people, but also put a shadow on

> the rest

> of us. But to advertise this self exploitation on the dwarfism site

> seems to

> add insult to injury.

> Marcia

>

> -- Re: September 18, Little People on FOX!!

>

> I must say this post dissapoints me very much. I was to the

> understanding that this group was setup to discuss issues relating to

> dwarfism. I did not join here to see other lp's exploiting

> themselves. I personally don't care what others do. If you want to

> market yourselves in that realm then put it on the dwarf

> entertainment list.

>

>

> >

> > Just a reminder to everyone, according to Fox.com, on Thursday,

> > September 18, 2008, 3 talent from Shortywood Productions will be

> > appearing/playing on Fox's new game show " Hole in the Wall " . Also

> > making a special guest appearance in full costume will be Hercules

> the

> > Pit Bull. Mark down your calendar for this event, it will make

> you

> > laugh.

> >

> > The link to the programming schedule on fox.

> > http://fox.com/schedule.htm#week:2008-09-14

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ugh. I watched this show and now have changed my mind. It was PURE

exploitation! Of EVERYONE on the show. The producers purposely chose 3

people from specific 'groups'. Three gay waiters, three shapely African

American women, Three little people, and three middle age steroid

wo-men. This was absolutely the worst garbage I have seen in a long

time. It comes from Japan....

I will have nightmares for days hearing someone bellow " Time ... to face

.... the hole "

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[Guest guest]

Oh sure, that's a solution. " Lynch " the LPA board. It's not like we

have much control over what individual LPs or television networks

choose to do.

Tony, as a former officer, you should know better. All of us are

unpaid, overworked volunteers who have a hard enough time getting

people to run for office much less volunteer to do anything. I didn't

see your name on the ballot last election cycle. Have you offered to

serve on the LPA advocacy committee? I'm sure Joe would love to have

your help.

(BTW, we actually have accomplished a lot in the past year, including

funding over 30k in scholarships, increased spending in adoptions,

medical grants, Kitchen's Funds; networking with genetic alliances and

other disability groups; protesting abusive web sites and radio shock

jocks; expanding community outreach, parental support, and medical

advisory board, relocating our headquarters, and hiring a permanent

executive director.)

Bill

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Tony Soares <tonysoares@...> wrote:

> Well maybe if enough people voted against

> " entertainment posts " you would have a case.

> But once again LPs sit by and expect others will

> take care of it and then you complain later...

> I agree too many LPs make jerks of themselves

> and in turn hurt us who are trying to lead normal lives. No other

> National minority group tolerates such rampant

> and derogatory exploitation in the name of being fair to all

> Would NOW post ads for strip clubs on their site?

>

> Not until a lynch mob charges the Lpa board meetings will this change

> I fought the Nacho man/human seeing tray and endured more negatives

> Than positives for complainging about that disgusting display.

> Dwarf tossing isn't the only bad image LPA and the dwarf community

> should fight.

> Tony

[Guest guest]

I was " Lynched " over my position on Nacho Man now wasn't I?

It wasn't meant literally.

Thanks for addressing the rest of my comments.

On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Bill Bradford wrote:

> Oh sure, that's a solution. " Lynch " the LPA board. It's not like we

> have much control over what individual LPs or television networks

> choose to do.

>

> Tony, as a former officer, you should know better. All of us are

> unpaid, overworked volunteers who have a hard enough time getting

> people to run for office much less volunteer to do anything. I didn't

> see your name on the ballot last election cycle. Have you offered to

> serve on the LPA advocacy committee? I'm sure Joe would love to have

> your help.

[Guest guest]

Bill you didn't see my name on the Ballot, true, but you may have seen

it on other papers that camr through LPA, that

aides the efforts in paragraph 2.

The board had nothing to distribute if there is nobody donating.

On Sep 21, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Bill Bradford wrote:

> Tony, as a former officer, you should know better. All of us are

> unpaid, overworked volunteers who have a hard enough time getting

> people to run for office much less volunteer to do anything. I didn't

> see your name on the ballot last election cycle. Have you offered to

> serve on the LPA advocacy committee? I'm sure Joe would love to have

> your help.

>

> (BTW, we actually have accomplished a lot in the past year, including

> funding over 30k in scholarships, increased spending in adoptions,

> medical grants, Kitchen's Funds; networking with genetic alliances and

> other disability groups; protesting abusive web sites and radio shock

> jocks; expanding community outreach, parental support, and medical

> advisory board, relocating our headquarters, and hiring a permanent

> executive director.)

[Guest guest]

>

> Oh sure, that's a solution. " Lynch " the LPA board. It's not like we

> have much control over what individual LPs or television networks

> choose to do.<<<<

I don't see anywhere in LPA's Mission Statement

(http://www.lpaonline.org/mc/page.do?sitePageId=44393 & orgId=lpa) a

notation instructing its board to go around policing every dwarf in

America; what they do for a living, who represents them (actors), what

they watch for entertainment, how stupid they act in public. How many

watched this inane show? How many will continue to watch? Does an LPA

representative come to each and every household and change the channel

to Face the Nation?

From what I've read it seems the actors went into this venture with

open eyes and were represented by someone in 'the community'

(http://shortentertainment.biz/NewTalent.html); is it LPA's board

responsibility to go around closing them down?

Appearing on inane television shows is not physically harmful, as

dwarf tossing would be and this being a free country limits how much

watchdogging an organization can conduct. Being that LPA only has a

board of volunteers severely constrains the amount of wars it can take

up. Sometimes it's worth picking your battles carefully and allowing

the inaneness to drift away by itself.

I find it preferable that LPA's board sticks to an agenda with a

future and not spend it's time battling dwarfs that choose to exploit

themselves, whether it be on national television or as strippers in Vegas.

And honestly, considering the history of lynching in the United States

I'm more concerned that someone who is supposedly well educated

choosing that term to rile the masses against their own. That to me is

more shameful that a few actors seeking their 15 minutes of fame

absurdly cavorting on a trivial television program.

[Guest guest]

Ditto, and I agree with

-----------------------------

I did see the show and afterwards I said to myself, That was it?

That was what we majorly worried over?! LOL

Buttttttttt, I knew, and sure enough, others would still say it's the

most major issue that the LPA is currently facing. Go figure? Oh well,

it's only goes to show that we do NOT think alike, regardless of the

same amount of inches from the ground we may all share.

One day, and I know it will come, I would like to see the LPA be more

concerned with what it-the Organization, can be doing positively, on

it's own (like helping overseas lps, sponsoring lp foreign exchange

school students, increasing fund raising in general but also in the

aid of possibly sending a less than fortunate family to their first

National Conference, and so, so, so much more). Rather than focus it's

energy on the, albeit negative, actions of a few lps which is beyond

the group's control anyway... and the way it should stay, I feel. Not

meddling in what some may do on their own, but going forth and shining

forth on what it, again, the Organization can positively do:).

My thoughts only;), grady

Bill, mentioned some of the current things the LPA was doing and

thanks for sharing that:). And just as I said to Matt personally in my

post previous to this one, Bill, please share MORE of that info, as it

seems we hear sooo infrequently of what the LPA is doing positively as

the assaults on it seem to outweigh it on here. So, please say more,

NOT less, OK. And no this is not against Bill or a vent towards him,

it's just my sharing how I feel:).

Thanks:), grady

> I don't see anywhere in LPA's Mission Statement

(http://www.lpaonline.org/mc/page.do?sitePageId=44393 & orgId=lpa)

a notation instructing its board to go around policing every dwarf

in America; what they do for a living, who represents them (actors),

what they watch for entertainment, how stupid they act in public.

How many watched this inane show? How many will continue to watch?

Does an LPA representative come to each and every household and change

the channel to Face the Nation?

> From what I've read it seems the actors went into this venture with

open eyes and were represented by someone in 'the community'

(http://shortentertainment.biz/NewTalent.html); is it LPA's board

responsibility to go around closing them down?

> Appearing on inane television shows is not physically harmful, as

dwarf tossing would be and this being a free country limits how much

watchdogging an organization can conduct. Being that LPA only has a

board of volunteers severely constrains the amount of wars it can take

up. Sometimes it's worth picking your battles carefully and allowing

the inaneness to drift away by itself.

> I find it preferable that LPA's board sticks to an agenda with a

future and not spend it's time battling dwarfs that choose to exploit

themselves, whether it be on national television or as strippers in Vegas.

> And honestly, considering the history of lynching in the United

States I'm more concerned that someone who is supposedly well educated

choosing that term to rile the masses against their own. That to me is

more shameful that a few actors seeking their 15 minutes of fame

absurdly cavorting on a trivial television program.

>