Re: questions about toe-walking

[Guest guest]

Hi !

Yeah, has toe walked since he started walking. I HATE it! Sometimes it is less, but usually it is there. We find with that when he has ON tennis shoes or heavier shoes that he toe walks much LESS than when he is barefoot.

We have heard that when he is walking on his toes to kinda gently but kinda firmly push down on his shoulders and immediately reinforce him for walking on his feet. This works immediately for but in another two minutes he is back up on his toes.

The PT person has at school fitted his old shoes with special inserts that were suppose to cut down on toe walking....they didn't really make any difference w/ but you may want to investigate it for Evan...they bascially just looked like arch supports.

We have met families who had kids that toe walked and then pretty much all of the sudden stopped after years of doing it.......That's my hope for now!

If you find out any other good stuff to try, PLEASE let us know!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

Thanks !! This was very helpful! I will keep you posted. LBarano710@... wrote: Hi !Yeah, has toe walked since he started walking. I HATE it! Sometimes it is less, but usually it is there. We find with that when he has ON tennis shoes or heavier shoes that he toe walks much LESS than when he is barefoot.We have heard that when he is walking on his toes to kinda gently but

kinda firmly push down on his shoulders and immediately reinforce him for walking on his feet. This works immediately for but in another two minutes he is back up on his toes.The PT person has at school fitted his old shoes with special inserts that were suppose to cut down on toe walking....they didn't really make any difference w/ but you may want to investigate it for Evan...they bascially just looked like arch supports.We have met families who had kids that toe walked and then pretty much all of the sudden stopped after years of doing it.......That's my hope for now!If you find out any other good stuff to try, PLEASE let us know!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Your PT should have also given you stretching exercises to do with

your son. Long term toe walking will shorten the muscles in his legs,

making him unable to stand flat-footed or even walk flat footed. Some

children/adults end up with surgery to have the muscles cut when

continued contractures become severe. You can prevent that by doing

simple calf type stretches and flexing his foot flat with range of

motion. Ask your PT to demonstrate.

We also had an insert in our daughters shoes which looked more like

the toes were elevated compared to the rest of the foot. This gave

her the input that she sought that her toes were in the position of

toe walking, yet she was really walking flat footed. We also harped

on her incessantly for about 4 months " Flat feet " " Feet down " " Strong

legs "

She still occasionally toe walks, however she has become much more

self conscious about how it looks. Thankfully we stretched her calves

nightly and she is able to go flat.

[Guest guest]

Hi My son toe walked also, Our PT fitted his shoes with special

inserts, they are actually an arch support type thing. He stopped

toe walking, and no longer wears them. Maybe you could ask about

these?

Good luck

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Please give me some input and experiences on what startegies

have worked for your child if he or she toewalks.

>

> My little one has just developed this behavior and we are trying

to come up with ways to help him. For now, we have stepped up

movement such as running, hopping, jumping on a trampoline,

playground equipment and riding a tricycle during the school day. He

gets lots of exercise after school - slides, swings, monkey bars,

and we are doing lots of arts activities such as playdough (well,

modeling magic 'cause that GFCF).

>

> He is also barefoot at home, which I think helps the most. He

typically is seeking this (wearing no shoes) but obviously he has to

wear his shoes for school and outside when we go for walks. He gets

to be barefoot in the house and the backyard, if it isn't too cold

outside.

>

> We did have a PT eval and the therapist recommended activities

that would improve proprioceptive processing (knowing where his body

in space) and also sensory-based activities like the things I named

above, or brushing (I started this with him but he does not seem to

want it much) or the Benik vest. My son refuses the Benik.

>

> So my question is: have you tried any of the above things and

did it help?

>

> I really appreciate any input and experiences you are willing to

share!

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Small Business.

>

[Guest guest]

I read where toe walking could be a sign of yeast and

or viral issues. C. is an expert in this

area---Hey, -----could you comment????? You

could go into the group called MB12Valtrex and

put toe walking into the search engine. There are

many posts about it. I hope this helps.

Laurie

--- Angie <stinker_bell245@...> wrote:

> Hi My son toe walked also, Our PT fitted his shoes

> with special

> inserts, they are actually an arch support type

> thing. He stopped

> toe walking, and no longer wears them. Maybe you

> could ask about

> these?

>

> Good luck

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > Please give me some input and experiences on

> what startegies

> have worked for your child if he or she toewalks.

> >

> > My little one has just developed this behavior

> and we are trying

> to come up with ways to help him. For now, we have

> stepped up

> movement such as running, hopping, jumping on a

> trampoline,

> playground equipment and riding a tricycle during

> the school day. He

> gets lots of exercise after school - slides, swings,

> monkey bars,

> and we are doing lots of arts activities such as

> playdough (well,

> modeling magic 'cause that GFCF).

> >

> > He is also barefoot at home, which I think helps

> the most. He

> typically is seeking this (wearing no shoes) but

> obviously he has to

> wear his shoes for school and outside when we go for

> walks. He gets

> to be barefoot in the house and the backyard, if it

> isn't too cold

> outside.

> >

> > We did have a PT eval and the therapist

> recommended activities

> that would improve proprioceptive processing

> (knowing where his body

> in space) and also sensory-based activities like the

> things I named

> above, or brushing (I started this with him but he

> does not seem to

> want it much) or the Benik vest. My son refuses the

> Benik.

> >

> > So my question is: have you tried any of the

> above things and

> did it help?

> >

> > I really appreciate any input and experiences

> you are willing to

> share!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr.

> We'll help.

> Small Business.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ours toe walked, early on, at age 3.0, but only when she ran, which we attributed to vision problems, thinking that it helped her keep her balance.

We think this because cod liver oil, of all things, put a stop to it, within about 10 days. Her vision was so bad (mercury poisons the third optic nerve in the brain) that she would turn her head sideways and squint when showing us something. Earlier at 18 months -2 years she would actually run into walls and when reported to the ped he said that toddlers fully expect walls to move, what idiots! Her vision was bad.

After 45 rounds of chelation we took her to a behavioral optometrist who said her vision was fine. Another exam this summer found the same thing.

I have also heard people say that if your child toe walks you should suspect impaction of their bowel, even if they have diarrhea as impaction can be present even if they have loose stools. Ours was also having problems at that time with constipation.

So, it appears that this common trait may be caused by a number of things. I don't know if yeast or viral issues might cause this.

----- Original Message -----

From: Laurie Kowalski

Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:10 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: questions about toe-walking

I read where toe walking could be a sign of yeast andor viral issues. C. is an expert in thisarea---Hey, -----could you comment????? Youcould go into the group called MB12Valtrex andput toe walking into the search engine. There aremany posts about it. I hope this helps.Laurie--- Angie <stinker_bell245 > wrote:> Hi My son toe walked also, Our PT fitted his shoes> with special > inserts, they are actually an arch support type> thing. He stopped > toe walking, and no longer wears them. Maybe you> could ask about > these? > > Good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi Everyone, > > > > Please give me some input and experiences on> what startegies > have worked for your child if he or she toewalks. > > > > My little one has just developed this behavior> and we are trying > to come up with ways to help him. For now, we have> stepped up > movement such as running, hopping, jumping on a> trampoline, > playground equipment and riding a tricycle during> the school day. He > gets lots of exercise after school - slides, swings,> monkey bars, > and we are doing lots of arts activities such as> playdough (well, > modeling magic 'cause that GFCF). > > > > He is also barefoot at home, which I think helps> the most. He > typically is seeking this (wearing no shoes) but> obviously he has to > wear his shoes for school and outside when we go for> walks. He gets > to be barefoot in the house and the backyard, if it> isn't too cold > outside.> > > > We did have a PT eval and the therapist> recommended activities > that would improve proprioceptive processing> (knowing where his body > in space) and also sensory-based activities like the> things I named > above, or brushing (I started this with him but he> does not seem to > want it much) or the Benik vest. My son refuses the> Benik.> > > > So my question is: have you tried any of the> above things and > did it help?> > > > I really appreciate any input and experiences> you are willing to > share!> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr.> We'll help. > Small Business.> >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to thank everyone for all the information about the toe-walking stuff. I will try to implement some of the ideas and keep you guys posted. Thanks so much again!!!!

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm...I will be talking to DrDeMio and see what his opinion is on this...will let you know!! I did hear about bowel impaction before, too.... Laurie Kowalski <lyndhurstmom3@...> wrote: I read where toe walking could be a sign of yeast andor viral issues. C. is an expert in thisarea---Hey, -----could you comment????? Youcould go into the group called MB12Valtrex andput toe walking into the search engine. There aremany posts about it. I hope this

helps.Laurie--- Angie <stinker_bell245 > wrote:> Hi My son toe walked also, Our PT fitted his shoes> with special > inserts, they are actually an arch support type> thing. He stopped > toe walking, and no longer wears them. Maybe you> could ask about > these? > > Good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Hi Everyone, > > > > Please give me some input and experiences on> what startegies > have worked for your child if he or she toewalks. > > > > My little one has just developed this behavior> and we are trying

> to come up with ways to help him. For now, we have> stepped up > movement such as running, hopping, jumping on a> trampoline, > playground equipment and riding a tricycle during> the school day. He > gets lots of exercise after school - slides, swings,> monkey bars, > and we are doing lots of arts activities such as> playdough (well, > modeling magic 'cause that GFCF). > > > > He is also barefoot at home, which I think helps> the most. He > typically is seeking this (wearing no shoes) but> obviously he has to > wear his shoes for school and outside when we go for> walks. He gets > to be barefoot in the house and the backyard, if it> isn't too cold > outside.> > > > We did have a PT eval and the therapist> recommended activities > that would improve proprioceptive processing>

(knowing where his body > in space) and also sensory-based activities like the> things I named > above, or brushing (I started this with him but he> does not seem to > want it much) or the Benik vest. My son refuses the> Benik.> > > > So my question is: have you tried any of the> above things and > did it help?> > > > I really appreciate any input and experiences> you are willing to > share!> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr.> We'll help. > Small Business.> >> > > > >

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