Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 In a message dated 3/2/02 9:59:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: > Could someone tell me what a FBA is? I am having almost the same issue in > my school district with my daughter. She is 6 and in a cross-cat class. > She is only being included in the kindergarten class about 40 minutes a day > right now. They want to have a meeting to get a behavior intervention plan > into effect. , your post caught my eye as this is exactly what's going on with my son, , almost 9, and DS, ADHD and possible PDD! FBA means " functional behavior assessment " where someone comes in and observes your child during classtimes and otherwise, and just observes and writes down notes. She/he is not allowed to interfere, but just watch behaviors, and what she thinks may be the precursor to those behaviors, whether it's the same time, class, subject, every day, in order to assess what's going on and what are the stressors in your child's day. There may be things setting her off that the teacher is unable to recognize, which is exactly what we're doing right now with my son! After they observe a few times, they make a report and set up an appt. with the teacher, school district and give you their conclusions. Then, a behavior mod plan is put into effect. Hope this helped....good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Melinda: A FBA should be conducted by more than one observer. It should possibly include a person specializing in Asperger's. <A HREF= " http://cecp.air.org/fba/problembehavior/introduction.htm " >Addressing Student Problem Behavior - Introduction</A> INDIVIDUALS ASSESSING BEHAVIOR Persons responsible for conducting the functional behavioral assessment will vary from state to state and possibly from district to district. Some behavioral assessment procedures, such as standardized tests, may require an individual with specific training (e.g., behavior specialist or school psychologist). With specialized training, experience, and support, however, many components of the assessment can be conducted by other individuals, such as special or general education teachers, counselors, and administrators. Again, it is important to note that interventions should not be based upon one assessment measure, alone, or upon data collected by only one observer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 In a message dated 3/15/2003 9:58:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, mlndhall@... writes: > They are going to fight me. But guess what, I'm tired > of playing their games. I will not sign the IEP that I > agree if they don't give me what I ask this time. > I haven't signed an IEP in two years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 In a message dated 3/15/03 1:26:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, ppanda65@... writes: > I haven't signed an IEP in two years now. > Explain why not, Pam. I haven't signed one for Royce in several years either. Roxanna ò¿ò It makes sense to go up the molehill dressed for the mountain Nan, the Wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 In a message dated 3/23/2003 10:27:34 AM Central Standard Time, RSYOSH@... writes: > Is the spec ed teacher responsible for behavior management in ALL of Sara's > classes? Is this appropriate under the FBA? The FBA should address > behavior > within EACH setting, and how to manage it THERE. Is there a problem is > music > class that should be addressed by the behavioral specialist? > > Who is the behavioral specialist? Seems like it might be time to call an > IEP > to discuss implementing the FBA... or call for staff training. SOunds like > the Spec Ed teacher might not be the only one " not getting it. " > > - Becky HI It was decided at the Nov meeting that the teacher who had Sara at the time of misbehavior would handle her (this case the Art teacher or Reg Ed teacher). I made sure I brought this up at the meeting because I know this school has been bad in the past with other children to send the misbehaving child back to the sped room. The administrator and myself did not think this was appropriate and the administrator wanted more ownership of Sara by the Reg Ed teachers. The behavior specialists is a traveling lady, she does seem to spend a lot time at our school lol she even has an office here. We also use the guidance counselor services. Sara meets with her every Wednesday with a handful of Reg Ed students. I don't know who approved of this party plan but I don't think they really thought it through Kathy mom to Sara 11 ............ this year we have had 4 behavior meetings, all stressing the positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 In a message dated 3/23/03 3:54:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, b4alltoday@... writes: > The behavior specialists is a traveling lady, she does seem to spend a lot > time at our school lol she even has an office here. We also use the > guidance > counselor services. Sara meets with her every Wednesday with a handful of > Reg > Ed students. > > I forget what you had on your list of things to do... was discussing this situation with the behavioral specialist one of them? IMHO you could start by giving her a call first thing Monday AM, and if she won't schedule a staff training (which would actually be more effective because the teachers could discuss issues openly and the specialist could get to the heart of the matter), then call the IEP yourself for her to review with the whole team present at the same time exactly HOW they should handle behavioral issues. I think there are prople who understand in " theory " but don't get the pragmatics of " behavior modification " . - Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Hi, Does anyone know if an FBA can only be done for kids with IEPs or can it be done for any kid? My 6 yr old is getting bad marks in conduct in music (!) and I would like to know why this is happening. He is generally a well-behaved kid. Janis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 In a message dated 9/15/2004 5:37:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michdock@... writes: > What specifically should be required of them to complete the FBA? --- the object of the FBA is to identify the " communicative intent " of the negative behaviors, address and correct the situations that trigger the negative behaviors, give the child an alternate & positive way of communicating > What should she look for to make sure they are doing a full FBA? -- start by listing all the places SHE thinks are problems areas. In my daughter's FBA, the specialist look and 3 very different settings,,, the regular classroom, the music class, and the pullout for reading. She looked at what made my daughter behave negatively AND positively,and what the teacher did about it (reprimanded, ignored, redirected, praised) and graphed results.. She also evaluated learning styles (verbal direction, modelling, modelling and verbal combined, etc) and graphed the results. She used the results to implement new procedures for teachers and then graphed the reults. She got an improvement in 's readimg pullout (20^ positive response to 100% positive response) in just one session be getting the teacher to implement modelling and an effective reward system. > How can she be sure that the FBA is not biased (as most of the staff are > due > to his behavior problems)? Make sure the specialist interviews people who will support her position. I put in writing in my FBA request that the specialist interview myself, the aide had the previous year, and the teacher had the previous year (who both had gotten fantanstic results). When we got thru the specialist called the aide and talked her into coming back to work for the school district and be 's aide again. (!) > Do they have specific tests/tools they use to assess the behaviors as we > have > the battelle and DAPs to assess development? > -- talk to the specialist and find out what she will be using. I can only speak from our personal experience. Our specialist did a fantasitc job of analyzing 's negative AND positive behaviors across different activities, so that it was mathematically proven what lead to act out... and what lead her to be a model student. - Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 IEP team should meet and determine how long the FBA will be (hours, days), where in school observations will be done (every location in school, just certain ones) and who will do FBA. You can go on internet and find good models to look at as far as data collection (I think the Beach Center had a great one posted awhile back) and mom can say she would like the FBA to include the criteria she finds. Can't guarantee bias if school personnel doing the FBA but if you have a format spelled out that can cut down on some bias. Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 When Nic's was done, the psychologist sat down and asked us 100 questions about Nic and his behavior, sleep and eating habits etc. They also interview the school personnel (this is where we ran into trouble). In his report he quoted the teacher as saying Nic flipped his desk at least 3 times a week. I was shocked because all along I had been asking her about Nic's behavior and she never mentioned anything about doing that. She asked where I had gotten that idea from and I told her the psychologist had quoted her as saying it. So either he reported it wrong or she lied. On the other hand, she never had any of his behaviors documented so I think she may have embellished a bit- I don't think she'll do that again... The most important part I suppose is the Assessors observations. He went into school on several occasions at different times of day. The 100 questions to us were done at our home. Di FBA Hi All, More FBA questions. My friend wrote the letter and the district is going to complete an FBA on her son. They have an " inclusion specialist " who did her masters in FBAs (??) so she is going to do it. She called the mother to ask her if she had any questions. What specifically should be required of them to complete the FBA? What should she look for to make sure they are doing a full FBA? How can she be sure that the FBA is not biased (as most of the staff are due to his behavior problems)? Do they have specific tests/tools they use to assess the behaviors as we have the battelle and DAPs to assess development? M. ¸...¸ ___/ /\ \___ ¸...¸ ,·´º o`·, /__/ _/\_ \__\ ,·´º o`·, ```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | | | ```)¨(´´´ ¸,.-·²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°²·-.¸ .....for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 3:33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 We recently requested one for our son who is in second grade. We requested it after a telephone conference with his regular education teacher. She reported that he had difficulty paying attention, listening to instructions, making noises in class, and sometimes wandering the room. All of these behaviors were inconsistent (i.e., some days he's fine and other days he's not). She agreed that his behaviors were interferring with his learning and that the current behavior program wasn't working well. We delivered a request for an FBA in writing setting forth our concerns. In our letter we gave permission to conduct the FBA. The FBA is currently being conducted by school personnel under the diretion/supervision of the school's autism consultant (PhD and Board Certified Behavior Consultant). From talking with other parents, I understand that some local consultants can also perform (or supervise) the FBA. The school has set up a meeting in early November to discuss the results of the FBA and develop a behavior plan. Thanks. Debbie > > Hi, everyone -- > > Has anyone ever had the school do a functional behavioral assessment on your child? If so, and if you don't mind sharing (either on or off list), why did it need to be done, and who did the school have do it (was it at least a child psychiatrist or psychologist?)? > > Thanks for your help. > > --Suzanne > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 - The school is supposed to be doing an FBA with Bobby soon, so would you mind making copies for me, too? I'll see you come Saturday! Chris > > > > > > Hi, everyone -- > > > > > > Has anyone ever had the school do a functional behavioral > > assessment on your child? If so, and if you don't mind sharing > > (either on or off list), why did it need to be done, and who did the > > school have do it (was it at least a child psychiatrist or > > psychologist?)? > > > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > > > --Suzanne > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > ___ > > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 See http://www.bacb.com/becom_frame.html for the types of certification and the requirements. Thanks. Debbie > > Thanks for your help, Debbie! I appreciate it! > > You mentioned that the Autism Consultant at your school is a PhD and a Board Certified Behavior Consultant. I've been told that the person who originally came up with the plan for my son that I strongly objected to is a " certified Behavior Consultant, " but not a PhD. This may be a dumb question (but I can't seem to get the answers from the school), but do you happen to know what Board certifies Behavior Consultants? Yours has a PhD, and that's what I want. This lady they have for my son doesn't have that. And, she tried to implement a negative plan without my knowledge or consent. So, I don't want her as part of the formal FBA they are going to want to do on him. > > Thanks again for your help. > > --Suzanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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