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how come she went balistic on you --- what is the difference from the wls vs

mgb di

Carni ...long

> I'm not sure how to say this, don't want to sound like I am name dropping.

> Carni is a cousin of mine. I use to be married to her Dad's 1st cousin

back

> in the 60's/70's. He was also the manager of the Beach Boys. Anyway, I

> haven't seen Carni since she was about 6 yrs old. She was doing a concert

> near me with Al Jardine (Beach Boy) this past Thursday nite. We went to

see

> it and I spent about an hour with her and her sister afterwards. It

> was really wonderful to hear all about the family (her mom Marilyn and I

use

> to be very close). I had moved around so much after my divorce I

eventually

> lost touch with everyone.

> Carni's husband Rob was there and is a warm, sweet guy. They are

obviously

> very much in love. Carni is the same as when she was a little girl.

Warm,

> sweet and very down to earth. What a personality!!

>

> We spoke at length about WLS. She is very active in the WLS community.

She

> was " presented " at the Bariatric Convention last month in D.C. to a

standing

> ovation. I don't think it had much to do with her loosing so much weight

as

> for what it did for the Bariatric community. She has made WLS so much

more

> accepted. I gave her a big hug and thanked her for that. However, when

she

> asked me where/when I had the surgery and I told her I had the MGB she

went

> balistic. She scared my dear husband! We talked for awhile about it and

she

> calmed down. She was obviously not happy. I plan to keep in touch with

her

> to let her know how well I am doing over the years. I hope to change her

> mind. I asked her if she ever read CLOS and she had not. This is how

thing

> get blown out of proportion I said. I asked her to read it.

>

> My husband (Carl) took a few fotos of us and when I get them developed I

will

> send one to Tricia to post, since I don't have a scanner I need your snail

> mail address Tricia.

>

> Hope to see you all at the picnic.

>

> Joni

>

>

>

>

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is the type she had done the rny or what --- and your probly right on the

cash cow --sad but true --some must have been very envious as to the large

success in the short time

Carni ...long

> >

> >

> > > I'm not sure how to say this, don't want to sound like I am name

> dropping.

> > > Carni is a cousin of mine. I use to be married to her Dad's 1st

cousin

> > back

> > > in the 60's/70's. He was also the manager of the Beach Boys.

Anyway,

> I

> > > haven't seen Carni since she was about 6 yrs old. She was doing a

> concert

> > > near me with Al Jardine (Beach Boy) this past Thursday nite. We went

to

> > see

> > > it and I spent about an hour with her and her sister afterwards.

> It

> > > was really wonderful to hear all about the family (her mom Marilyn and

I

> > use

> > > to be very close). I had moved around so much after my divorce I

> > eventually

> > > lost touch with everyone.

> > > Carni's husband Rob was there and is a warm, sweet guy. They are

> > obviously

> > > very much in love. Carni is the same as when she was a little girl.

> > Warm,

> > > sweet and very down to earth. What a personality!!

> > >

> > > We spoke at length about WLS. She is very active in the WLS community.

> > She

> > > was " presented " at the Bariatric Convention last month in D.C. to a

> > standing

> > > ovation. I don't think it had much to do with her loosing so much

> weight

> > as

> > > for what it did for the Bariatric community. She has made WLS so much

> > more

> > > accepted. I gave her a big hug and thanked her for that. However,

when

> > she

> > > asked me where/when I had the surgery and I told her I had the MGB she

> > went

> > > balistic. She scared my dear husband! We talked for awhile about it

> and

> > she

> > > calmed down. She was obviously not happy. I plan to keep in touch

with

> > her

> > > to let her know how well I am doing over the years. I hope to change

> her

> > > mind. I asked her if she ever read CLOS and she had not. This is how

> > thing

> > > get blown out of proportion I said. I asked her to read it.

> > >

> > > My husband (Carl) took a few fotos of us and when I get them developed

I

> > will

> > > send one to Tricia to post, since I don't have a scanner I need your

> snail

> > > mail address Tricia.

> > >

> > > Hope to see you all at the picnic.

> > >

> > > Joni

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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In a message dated 7/8/01 8:05:01 PM, jonigra@... writes:

<<since I don't have a scanner I need your snail

mail address Tricia. >>

Joni,

I'll send my address privately.

Tricia in iL

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Has she had any plastic surgery yet?

in DC

>From: jonigra@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Carni ...long

>Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:28:40 EDT

>

>I'm not sure how to say this, don't want to sound like I am name dropping.

>Carni is a cousin of mine. I use to be married to her Dad's 1st cousin

>back

>in the 60's/70's. He was also the manager of the Beach Boys. Anyway, I

>haven't seen Carni since she was about 6 yrs old. She was doing a concert

>near me with Al Jardine (Beach Boy) this past Thursday nite. We went to

>see

>it and I spent about an hour with her and her sister afterwards. It

>was really wonderful to hear all about the family (her mom Marilyn and I

>use

>to be very close). I had moved around so much after my divorce I

>eventually

>lost touch with everyone.

>Carni's husband Rob was there and is a warm, sweet guy. They are obviously

>very much in love. Carni is the same as when she was a little girl. Warm,

>sweet and very down to earth. What a personality!!

>

>We spoke at length about WLS. She is very active in the WLS community. She

>was " presented " at the Bariatric Convention last month in D.C. to a

>standing

>ovation. I don't think it had much to do with her loosing so much weight

>as

>for what it did for the Bariatric community. She has made WLS so much more

>accepted. I gave her a big hug and thanked her for that. However, when

>she

>asked me where/when I had the surgery and I told her I had the MGB she went

>balistic. She scared my dear husband! We talked for awhile about it and

>she

>calmed down. She was obviously not happy. I plan to keep in touch with

>her

>to let her know how well I am doing over the years. I hope to change her

>mind. I asked her if she ever read CLOS and she had not. This is how

>thing

>get blown out of proportion I said. I asked her to read it.

>

>My husband (Carl) took a few fotos of us and when I get them developed I

>will

>send one to Tricia to post, since I don't have a scanner I need your snail

>mail address Tricia.

>

>Hope to see you all at the picnic.

>

>Joni

>

>

>

>

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Carnie I believe had her surgery at Alvarado and their physician/founder is

VERY opposed to the MGB - he is one of the biggest opponents I believe

(probably eating into his cash cow!). I am sure she has been told lots of

things against the MGB but has little firsthand knowledge.

Just my 2 cents!

in GA

Carni ...long

>

>

> > I'm not sure how to say this, don't want to sound like I am name

dropping.

> > Carni is a cousin of mine. I use to be married to her Dad's 1st cousin

> back

> > in the 60's/70's. He was also the manager of the Beach Boys. Anyway,

I

> > haven't seen Carni since she was about 6 yrs old. She was doing a

concert

> > near me with Al Jardine (Beach Boy) this past Thursday nite. We went to

> see

> > it and I spent about an hour with her and her sister afterwards.

It

> > was really wonderful to hear all about the family (her mom Marilyn and I

> use

> > to be very close). I had moved around so much after my divorce I

> eventually

> > lost touch with everyone.

> > Carni's husband Rob was there and is a warm, sweet guy. They are

> obviously

> > very much in love. Carni is the same as when she was a little girl.

> Warm,

> > sweet and very down to earth. What a personality!!

> >

> > We spoke at length about WLS. She is very active in the WLS community.

> She

> > was " presented " at the Bariatric Convention last month in D.C. to a

> standing

> > ovation. I don't think it had much to do with her loosing so much

weight

> as

> > for what it did for the Bariatric community. She has made WLS so much

> more

> > accepted. I gave her a big hug and thanked her for that. However, when

> she

> > asked me where/when I had the surgery and I told her I had the MGB she

> went

> > balistic. She scared my dear husband! We talked for awhile about it

and

> she

> > calmed down. She was obviously not happy. I plan to keep in touch with

> her

> > to let her know how well I am doing over the years. I hope to change

her

> > mind. I asked her if she ever read CLOS and she had not. This is how

> thing

> > get blown out of proportion I said. I asked her to read it.

> >

> > My husband (Carl) took a few fotos of us and when I get them developed I

> will

> > send one to Tricia to post, since I don't have a scanner I need your

snail

> > mail address Tricia.

> >

> > Hope to see you all at the picnic.

> >

> > Joni

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I have a sister who is seeing my success with mgb now considering a WLS. She

called me the other day. (we live a distance apart so we have not discussed

my surgery in a lot of detail) to ask me questions. When I told her who did

my surgery. She went nuts she had just been on LT's web site. I tried to

explain some of the history, but she said after reading that there was no

way she would let Dr R do her surgery and she is really questioning my

judgement. I told her I made my choice and you need to make yours. I get

tired of the bashing of mgb.

I told her I do have times that I worry about long term effects like bile

reflux, losing too much weight, ect. But I would do this again in a minute

with the same surgeon. I do wish he would let us know when he is going to

start up again. So many people have ask me for his name and information. It

looks bad when he is not practing now and I have nothing to tell them. Has

anyone heard anything recently from him.

Re: Carni ...long

Carnie I believe had her surgery at Alvarado and their physician/founder is

VERY opposed to the MGB - he is one of the biggest opponents I believe

(probably eating into his cash cow!). I am sure she has been told lots of

things against the MGB but has little firsthand knowledge.

Just my 2 cents!

in GA

Carni ...long

>

>

> > I'm not sure how to say this, don't want to sound like I am name

dropping.

> > Carni is a cousin of mine. I use to be married to her Dad's 1st cousin

> back

> > in the 60's/70's. He was also the manager of the Beach Boys. Anyway,

I

> > haven't seen Carni since she was about 6 yrs old. She was doing a

concert

> > near me with Al Jardine (Beach Boy) this past Thursday nite. We went to

> see

> > it and I spent about an hour with her and her sister afterwards.

It

> > was really wonderful to hear all about the family (her mom Marilyn and I

> use

> > to be very close). I had moved around so much after my divorce I

> eventually

> > lost touch with everyone.

> > Carni's husband Rob was there and is a warm, sweet guy. They are

> obviously

> > very much in love. Carni is the same as when she was a little girl.

> Warm,

> > sweet and very down to earth. What a personality!!

> >

> > We spoke at length about WLS. She is very active in the WLS community.

> She

> > was " presented " at the Bariatric Convention last month in D.C. to a

> standing

> > ovation. I don't think it had much to do with her loosing so much

weight

> as

> > for what it did for the Bariatric community. She has made WLS so much

> more

> > accepted. I gave her a big hug and thanked her for that. However, when

> she

> > asked me where/when I had the surgery and I told her I had the MGB she

> went

> > balistic. She scared my dear husband! We talked for awhile about it

and

> she

> > calmed down. She was obviously not happy. I plan to keep in touch with

> her

> > to let her know how well I am doing over the years. I hope to change

her

> > mind. I asked her if she ever read CLOS and she had not. This is how

> thing

> > get blown out of proportion I said. I asked her to read it.

> >

> > My husband (Carl) took a few fotos of us and when I get them developed I

> will

> > send one to Tricia to post, since I don't have a scanner I need your

snail

> > mail address Tricia.

> >

> > Hope to see you all at the picnic.

> >

> > Joni

> >

> >

> >

> >

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If I am not mistaken she had a lap RNY. As for success in a short

time----my weight loss has slowed too but I am still losing. My 9 month

anniversary was the 4th of July. Don't know my " official " loss until I

weigh in on Wednesday but am down a little over 90 pounds which is great but

of course I always want more. Also, my husband gets quite frustrated with

me over body image. I just got back our vacation pictures and I think the

ones of me are horrible (the deflated balloon image comes to mind as well as

me thinking I am smaller than I apparently am) - he thinks they are

wonderful and that I should be thrilled. Oh well - maybe some day I will

like what I see in the mirror!

Have a great day everyone!

in GA

Carni ...long

> > >

> > >

> > > > I'm not sure how to say this, don't want to sound like I am name

> > dropping.

> > > > Carni is a cousin of mine. I use to be married to her Dad's 1st

> cousin

> > > back

> > > > in the 60's/70's. He was also the manager of the Beach Boys.

> Anyway,

> > I

> > > > haven't seen Carni since she was about 6 yrs old. She was doing a

> > concert

> > > > near me with Al Jardine (Beach Boy) this past Thursday nite. We

went

> to

> > > see

> > > > it and I spent about an hour with her and her sister

afterwards.

> > It

> > > > was really wonderful to hear all about the family (her mom Marilyn

and

> I

> > > use

> > > > to be very close). I had moved around so much after my divorce I

> > > eventually

> > > > lost touch with everyone.

> > > > Carni's husband Rob was there and is a warm, sweet guy. They are

> > > obviously

> > > > very much in love. Carni is the same as when she was a little girl.

> > > Warm,

> > > > sweet and very down to earth. What a personality!!

> > > >

> > > > We spoke at length about WLS. She is very active in the WLS

community.

> > > She

> > > > was " presented " at the Bariatric Convention last month in D.C. to a

> > > standing

> > > > ovation. I don't think it had much to do with her loosing so much

> > weight

> > > as

> > > > for what it did for the Bariatric community. She has made WLS so

much

> > > more

> > > > accepted. I gave her a big hug and thanked her for that. However,

> when

> > > she

> > > > asked me where/when I had the surgery and I told her I had the MGB

she

> > > went

> > > > balistic. She scared my dear husband! We talked for awhile about

it

> > and

> > > she

> > > > calmed down. She was obviously not happy. I plan to keep in touch

> with

> > > her

> > > > to let her know how well I am doing over the years. I hope to

change

> > her

> > > > mind. I asked her if she ever read CLOS and she had not. This is

how

> > > thing

> > > > get blown out of proportion I said. I asked her to read it.

> > > >

> > > > My husband (Carl) took a few fotos of us and when I get them

developed

> I

> > > will

> > > > send one to Tricia to post, since I don't have a scanner I need your

> > snail

> > > > mail address Tricia.

> > > >

> > > > Hope to see you all at the picnic.

> > > >

> > > > Joni

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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oh julie!! i feel your pain, girl!

picture a light brown bean bag chair with no " innerds " .... now, cut

a hole in the pointy end to slip over my head.....4 more holes for

arms and legs...... now...... picture me in this condition pulling on

a bathing suit.... man! i am not psychic, but i see plastic surgery

in my future!!!

BTW i just heard from my bloodwork..... all is well ESPECIALLY my

A1C (the " Diabetes test " )BUT i am anemic....gotta take iron

suppliments (more than i do now) oh well off to GNC!

love you ALL

cathy S in VA

> If I am not mistaken she had a lap RNY. As for success in a short

> time----my weight loss has slowed too but I am still losing. My 9

month

> anniversary was the 4th of July. Don't know my " official " loss

until I

> weigh in on Wednesday but am down a little over 90 pounds which is

great but

> of course I always want more. Also, my husband gets quite

frustrated with

> me over body image. I just got back our vacation pictures and I

think the

> ones of me are horrible (the deflated balloon image comes to mind

as well as

> me thinking I am smaller than I apparently am) - he thinks they are

> wonderful and that I should be thrilled. Oh well - maybe some day

I will

> like what I see in the mirror!

>

> Have a great day everyone!

>

> in GA

> Carni ...long

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I'm not sure how to say this, don't want to sound like I am

name

> > > dropping.

> > > > > Carni is a cousin of mine. I use to be married to her

Dad's 1st

> > cousin

> > > > back

> > > > > in the 60's/70's. He was also the manager of the Beach

Boys.

> > Anyway,

> > > I

> > > > > haven't seen Carni since she was about 6 yrs old. She was

doing a

> > > concert

> > > > > near me with Al Jardine (Beach Boy) this past Thursday

nite. We

> went

> > to

> > > > see

> > > > > it and I spent about an hour with her and her sister

> afterwards.

> > > It

> > > > > was really wonderful to hear all about the family (her mom

Marilyn

> and

> > I

> > > > use

> > > > > to be very close). I had moved around so much after my

divorce I

> > > > eventually

> > > > > lost touch with everyone.

> > > > > Carni's husband Rob was there and is a warm, sweet guy.

They are

> > > > obviously

> > > > > very much in love. Carni is the same as when she was a

little girl.

> > > > Warm,

> > > > > sweet and very down to earth. What a personality!!

> > > > >

> > > > > We spoke at length about WLS. She is very active in the WLS

> community.

> > > > She

> > > > > was " presented " at the Bariatric Convention last month in

D.C. to a

> > > > standing

> > > > > ovation. I don't think it had much to do with her loosing

so much

> > > weight

> > > > as

> > > > > for what it did for the Bariatric community. She has made

WLS so

> much

> > > > more

> > > > > accepted. I gave her a big hug and thanked her for that.

However,

> > when

> > > > she

> > > > > asked me where/when I had the surgery and I told her I had

the MGB

> she

> > > > went

> > > > > balistic. She scared my dear husband! We talked for

awhile about

> it

> > > and

> > > > she

> > > > > calmed down. She was obviously not happy. I plan to keep

in touch

> > with

> > > > her

> > > > > to let her know how well I am doing over the years. I hope

to

> change

> > > her

> > > > > mind. I asked her if she ever read CLOS and she had not.

This is

> how

> > > > thing

> > > > > get blown out of proportion I said. I asked her to read it.

> > > > >

> > > > > My husband (Carl) took a few fotos of us and when I get them

> developed

> > I

> > > > will

> > > > > send one to Tricia to post, since I don't have a scanner I

need your

> > > snail

> > > > > mail address Tricia.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope to see you all at the picnic.

> > > > >

> > > > > Joni

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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