Re: losing weight and stopping losing weight

[Guest guest]

Manda, everyone is different, for me, I need to exercise and diet to loose

or I will stay at a standstill. I highly recommend this to everyone.

losing weight and stopping losing weight

I was wondering, and this is for my own personal information, so

please feel free to post privately if you would like to. But, for the

people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long timers

close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost basically

the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done. I

feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I been

more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've talked

to several people, and have read several posts from people who have

stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common thread

of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people out

there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised religiously,

and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. I've read of people

who've lost all the weight they wanted to lose, and hardly ever broke

a sweat. I've joined the Y, and have been exercising for a couple of

hours every day, and I hope to stay motivated. I was just thinking of

this today. I don't mean to make anyone feel bad at all. I too am

allergic to exercise Usually I stay motivated for a few weeks, and

then my motivation goes away, and I'm back to being a couch potato.

manda

[Guest guest]

Yes, there are those of us, like me, who have exercised religiously and hard and

have stopped losing with about 50 lbs to go, not to an insurance chart weight,

but to what I thought would be reasonable for me. (HIgher than the charts say I

should weigh). However, I had exercised hard for the 15 years previously to the

surgery, so my body was accustomed to exercise. Now I am doing Curves three

days a week and water aerobics three days a week and trying to eat higher

protein and lower carbs and have lost about 5 lbs after not losing for about 3-4

months. I am 14 months out.

My health is much, much better so I am not obsessing over it, but I would like

to lose 50 more.

Pat Eppler

losing weight and stopping losing weight

I was wondering, and this is for my own personal information, so

please feel free to post privately if you would like to. But, for the

people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long timers

close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost basically

the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done. I

feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I been

more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've talked

to several people, and have read several posts from people who have

stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common thread

of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people out

there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised religiously,

and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. I've read of people

who've lost all the weight they wanted to lose, and hardly ever broke

a sweat. I've joined the Y, and have been exercising for a couple of

hours every day, and I hope to stay motivated. I was just thinking of

this today. I don't mean to make anyone feel bad at all. I too am

allergic to exercise Usually I stay motivated for a few weeks, and

then my motivation goes away, and I'm back to being a couch potato.

manda

[Guest guest]

Thanks Pat. I had a feeling there were those of you out there! I

still think that exercise is wonderful. Since I've been exercising,

I have only smoked 1 cigarette. I just don't crave them like I used

to!

Manda

> Yes, there are those of us, like me, who have exercised religiously

and hard and have stopped losing with about 50 lbs to go, not to an

insurance chart weight, but to what I thought would be reasonable for

me. (HIgher than the charts say I should weigh). However, I had

exercised hard for the 15 years previously to the surgery, so my body

was accustomed to exercise. Now I am doing Curves three days a week

and water aerobics three days a week and trying to eat higher protein

and lower carbs and have lost about 5 lbs after not losing for about

3-4 months. I am 14 months out.

>

> My health is much, much better so I am not obsessing over it, but I

would like to lose 50 more.

>

> Pat Eppler

> losing weight and stopping losing weight

>

>

> I was wondering, and this is for my own personal information, so

> please feel free to post privately if you would like to. But,

for the

> people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long

timers

> close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost

basically

> the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done.

I

> feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I

been

> more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've

talked

> to several people, and have read several posts from people who

have

> stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common

thread

> of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people

out

> there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised

religiously,

> and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. I've read of

people

> who've lost all the weight they wanted to lose, and hardly ever

broke

> a sweat. I've joined the Y, and have been exercising for a

couple of

> hours every day, and I hope to stay motivated. I was just

thinking of

> this today. I don't mean to make anyone feel bad at all. I too

am

> allergic to exercise Usually I stay motivated for a few weeks,

and

> then my motivation goes away, and I'm back to being a couch

potato.

>

> manda

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Manda, you know I'm only 3 months postop like you are, but I wanted

to share my perspective on exercise.

I use this website to calculate how many calories I burn when I

exercise.

http://www.primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/jumpsite/calculat.htm

The only exercise I do at this point is walking. I walk at a fairly

brisk pace about 15 - 20 miles per week. Based on the assumption

that there are 3500 calories in a pound, if I walk my 15-20 miles per

week, I will burn up 2 pounds per month. That doesn't sound like

alot until you consider that at the end of the year, I will have lost

an extra 24 pounds from exercising. I think that's alot and that's

what keeps me walking.

You may not notice a weight loss from week to week based on how much

you exercise, but you will notice a difference over the long haul.

By the way, I am very impressed that you are able to work out for 2

hours at a time. That's great!!

Molly

> I was wondering, and this is for my own personal information, so

> please feel free to post privately if you would like to. But, for

the

> people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long

timers

> close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost basically

> the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done. I

> feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I

been

> more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've

talked

> to several people, and have read several posts from people who have

> stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common

thread

> of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people

out

> there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised

religiously,

> and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. I've read of

people

> who've lost all the weight they wanted to lose, and hardly ever

broke

> a sweat. I've joined the Y, and have been exercising for a couple

of

> hours every day, and I hope to stay motivated. I was just thinking

of

> this today. I don't mean to make anyone feel bad at all. I too am

> allergic to exercise Usually I stay motivated for a few weeks,

and

> then my motivation goes away, and I'm back to being a couch potato.

>

> manda

[Guest guest]

Manda wrote:

" ... But, for the

people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long timers

close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost basically

the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done. I

feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I been

more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've talked

to several people, and have read several posts from people who have

stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common thread

of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people out

there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised religiously,

and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. "

I met with Dr. Rutledge at Clinic two weeks ago and asked this very

question. I had my surgery on 7/22/99, and very quickly lost 80 pounds

from 312 to 242. Since then I have had months go by were I have worked

out religiously and aggressively with a trainer and have done nothing.

The result from a weight standpoint has been the same - I weigh the same

plus or minus a couple of pounds and have for the past 18 months. I had

a lean body mass study done just before surgery and it indicated 196

pounds of lean bond mass (lots of muscle mass in my German heritage

undercarriage ;>) ), which would indicate a goal weight of 220 to 225.

So, my question was would diet or more exercise help get me to goal.

His answer surprised me. First, he says he is being very careful to not

fall into the trap of guilt inducement that we have all seen from other

Doctors. You know the line - " Well, if you just watched what you ate and

exercised more, you could lose that weight. " In fact, I did that for

years with great success, then slowly gained all of it back plus a

little extra. Dr. Rutledge said that after the surgery, we all have a

new " set point " for the size of stomach and the amount of bypass that he

has given us. Unless we are working very hard at trying to gain weight

(drinking Malts three or four times per day, for example), we will all

reach that new set point sometime between six months and 18 months

postop. He felt that my 232 current weight is pretty much my new set

point. He also said that the only way to confidently lose that remaining

weight would be through a revision, which he certainly would not

recommend for the few pounds I have left to goal. That seems to fit with

what I observe. I eat what I want now and get as much exercise as I can.

And whether I eat more or less, or exercise more or less, I weigh pretty

much the same thing week in and week out. That is what I wanted more

than anything else out of this surgery - freedom from the *(*^^^ & (()^%$

diet regimens of the past thirty years, and I have that. All of this is

not to say, of course, that each and every one of us would not be better

off if we walked three miles a day 4 times a week. But do not expect to

lose more weight by exercising once you are 18 months or more out of

surgery. If it did not work before surgery, why should it work now?

Mike....

[Guest guest]

Molly, at first I was to. I guess I should say that I left weights

for about an hour. It isn't really like " exercise " , I mean you swat

and all, but it is just different. Like last night, I cycled for 30

minutes, and then I got on an eliptical machine for 15. Then I

lifted weights for about an hour... with the stretching that I do, it

was right about 2 hours. It isn't like I was doing aerobic exercise

the entire time

manda

> > I was wondering, and this is for my own personal information, so

> > please feel free to post privately if you would like to. But,

for

> the

> > people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long

> timers

> > close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost

basically

> > the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done.

I

> > feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I

> been

> > more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've

> talked

> > to several people, and have read several posts from people who

have

> > stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common

> thread

> > of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people

> out

> > there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised

> religiously,

> > and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. I've read of

> people

> > who've lost all the weight they wanted to lose, and hardly ever

> broke

> > a sweat. I've joined the Y, and have been exercising for a

couple

> of

> > hours every day, and I hope to stay motivated. I was just

thinking

> of

> > this today. I don't mean to make anyone feel bad at all. I too

am

> > allergic to exercise Usually I stay motivated for a few weeks,

> and

> > then my motivation goes away, and I'm back to being a couch

potato.

> >

> > manda

[Guest guest]

WOW, I just went to the website, and I was amazed at how many

calories were burned during circuit training, which is what I am

doing with weights at the Y.

Thanks for posting the website.

manda

> > I was wondering, and this is for my own personal information, so

> > please feel free to post privately if you would like to. But,

for

> the

> > people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long

> timers

> > close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost

basically

> > the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done.

I

> > feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I

> been

> > more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've

> talked

> > to several people, and have read several posts from people who

have

> > stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common

> thread

> > of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people

> out

> > there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised

> religiously,

> > and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. I've read of

> people

> > who've lost all the weight they wanted to lose, and hardly ever

> broke

> > a sweat. I've joined the Y, and have been exercising for a

couple

> of

> > hours every day, and I hope to stay motivated. I was just

thinking

> of

> > this today. I don't mean to make anyone feel bad at all. I too

am

> > allergic to exercise Usually I stay motivated for a few weeks,

> and

> > then my motivation goes away, and I'm back to being a couch

potato.

> >

> > manda

[Guest guest]

Very interesting, Mike. Thanks for sharing.

Laurie

> " ... But, for the

> people who have completely stopped losing weight (not the long

timers

> close to goal), how much have you exercised. I have lost basically

> the same amount of weight each month, no matter what I've done. I

> feel that I probably could have lost more weight in month 2 had I

been

> more active(chicken pox and pulled muscle stopped this). I've

talked

> to several people, and have read several posts from people who have

> stopped losing all together, and they seem to have the common thread

> of " allergic to exercise " . I was wondering if there were people out

> there who were stuck on their weight, and had exercised religiously,

> and still are, and are still 50+ lbs from goal. "

>

> I met with Dr. Rutledge at Clinic two weeks ago and asked this very

> question. I had my surgery on 7/22/99, and very quickly lost 80

pounds

> from 312 to 242. Since then I have had months go by were I have

worked

> out religiously and aggressively with a trainer and have done

nothing.

> The result from a weight standpoint has been the same - I weigh the

same

> plus or minus a couple of pounds and have for the past 18 months. I

had

> a lean body mass study done just before surgery and it indicated 196

> pounds of lean bond mass (lots of muscle mass in my German heritage

> undercarriage ;>) ), which would indicate a goal weight of 220 to

225.

> So, my question was would diet or more exercise help get me to goal.

>

> His answer surprised me. First, he says he is being very careful to

not

> fall into the trap of guilt inducement that we have all seen from

other

> Doctors. You know the line - " Well, if you just watched what you ate

and

> exercised more, you could lose that weight. " In fact, I did that for

> years with great success, then slowly gained all of it back plus a

> little extra. Dr. Rutledge said that after the surgery, we all have

a

> new " set point " for the size of stomach and the amount of bypass

that he

> has given us. Unless we are working very hard at trying to gain

weight

> (drinking Malts three or four times per day, for example), we will

all

> reach that new set point sometime between six months and 18 months

> postop. He felt that my 232 current weight is pretty much my new set

> point. He also said that the only way to confidently lose that

remaining

> weight would be through a revision, which he certainly would not

> recommend for the few pounds I have left to goal. That seems to fit

with

> what I observe. I eat what I want now and get as much exercise as I

can.

> And whether I eat more or less, or exercise more or less, I weigh

pretty

> much the same thing week in and week out. That is what I wanted more

> than anything else out of this surgery - freedom from the

*(*^^^ & (()^%$

> diet regimens of the past thirty years, and I have that. All of this

is

> not to say, of course, that each and every one of us would not be

better

> off if we walked three miles a day 4 times a week. But do not expect

to

> lose more weight by exercising once you are 18 months or more out of

> surgery. If it did not work before surgery, why should it work now?

>

> Mike....

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Manda,

You know what helps keep me motivated? A friend. She and I exercise

together 5 days a week.....we try NOT to talk before class, so no one says

" hey I'm lazy " and the other can say " Me too let's skip it " ....

I show up when I don't feel like it for her, and she does the same for me.

It sure helps!!

HUGS

in Ark

[Guest guest]

Yup, I got my chubby hubby, but I think that if I didn't want to go,

i could convince him not to. Right now the steam room and the sauna

are motivation enough. And I've discovered that I love to sweat, I

like the smell of sweat, and I like the way it feels. I want to be

one of those people that sweats so much that my shirt is drenched.

Did I mention that I have been smoking MUCH less since I've started

exercising... just one every other day or so...

manda

> Manda,

>

> You know what helps keep me motivated? A friend. She and I

exercise

> together 5 days a week.....we try NOT to talk before class, so no

one says

> " hey I'm lazy " and the other can say " Me too let's skip it " ....

>

> I show up when I don't feel like it for her, and she does the same

for me.

> It sure helps!!

>

> HUGS

> in Ark

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey manda, know what I noticed? I don't sweat.. nothing like I used to. My

tolerance for heat is so much better. I hope that is a good sign lol. Anyway

you are an inspiration to me and wish you could go down to NC too. There will

be other times though. HUGS.

aW

MGB 5/28/00

214/115ish lbs

Re: losing weight and stopping losing weight

Yup, I got my chubby hubby, but I think that if I didn't want to go,

i could convince him not to. Right now the steam room and the sauna

are motivation enough. And I've discovered that I love to sweat, I

like the smell of sweat, and I like the way it feels. I want to be

one of those people that sweats so much that my shirt is drenched.

Did I mention that I have been smoking MUCH less since I've started

exercising... just one every other day or so...

manda

> Manda,

>

> You know what helps keep me motivated? A friend. She and I

exercise

> together 5 days a week.....we try NOT to talk before class, so no

one says

> " hey I'm lazy " and the other can say " Me too let's skip it " ....

>

> I show up when I don't feel like it for her, and she does the same

for me.

> It sure helps!!

>

> HUGS

> in Ark

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

a W - Me too.

It was in the 90's here in upstate NY yesterday.

Everybody was bitching about the heat, and I realized I was fine.

Another " bennie " of the MGB

TommyB

Re: losing weight and stopping losing weight

>

>

> Yup, I got my chubby hubby, but I think that if I didn't want to go,

> i could convince him not to. Right now the steam room and the sauna

> are motivation enough. And I've discovered that I love to sweat, I

> like the smell of sweat, and I like the way it feels. I want to be

> one of those people that sweats so much that my shirt is drenched.

> Did I mention that I have been smoking MUCH less since I've started

> exercising... just one every other day or so...

>

> manda

>

>

>

>

> > Manda,

> >

> > You know what helps keep me motivated? A friend. She and I

> exercise

> > together 5 days a week.....we try NOT to talk before class, so no

> one says

> > " hey I'm lazy " and the other can say " Me too let's skip it " ....

> >

> > I show up when I don't feel like it for her, and she does the same

> for me.

> > It sure helps!!

> >

> > HUGS

> > in Ark

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I like to sweat too!

It feels like detoxifying and makes me feel like I am healing my body of past

'mistakes " ..LOL

You go Manda!! You are doing awesome!

in Ark

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the gym,

and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000. Is

this correct?

Bonnie

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[Guest guest]

Bonnie, I am with you, I admit to eating badly, but I am wondering if not

eating much at the beginning has effected my matabolism negatively again,

like all those years of " dieting " has done.

RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

Hi,

I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the gym,

and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000. Is

this correct?

Bonnie

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[Guest guest]

Doesn't a revision imply that the original surgery was

defective/insufficent/miscalculated/inadequate/etc. ??

Wouldn't a warranty come into play here ??

At least some form of a discount/adjustment price structure. Of course the

hospital & anethesia charges would be duplicated, but the surgery ??

All opinions are welcomed.

Regards, TommyB from Woodstock, NY

Re: RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

> Hi Bonnie,

> I have heard the revision costs are higher, like closer to $15,000 (just

like the first time around). I have a 12-month follow-up with Dr. Rutledge

on 7/24 and I plan to discuss this very topic with him, for I too am

frustrated I have not lost more than I expected. I had the MGB 5/26/00 and

have lost 80 lbs, with about 40+ to go.

>

> When I see the good ole doc, I will ask about a revision and of course the

cost, so I will keep everybody posted as to what he says.

>

> I'm right there with you Bonnie...hang in there girl!

>

>

> S. of Raleigh

> MGb=5/26/00

>

>

> wrote:

> > Hi,

>

> I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

> have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the gym,

> and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

> disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

> revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000. Is

> this correct?

> Bonnie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

I have heard the revision costs are higher, like closer to $15,000 (just like

the first time around). I have a 12-month follow-up with Dr. Rutledge on 7/24

and I plan to discuss this very topic with him, for I too am frustrated I have

not lost more than I expected. I had the MGB 5/26/00 and have lost 80 lbs, with

about 40+ to go.

When I see the good ole doc, I will ask about a revision and of course the cost,

so I will keep everybody posted as to what he says.

I'm right there with you Bonnie...hang in there girl!

S. of Raleigh

MGb=5/26/00

wrote:

> Hi,

I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the gym,

and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000. Is

this correct?

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

It is my understand that a revision would be basically the same price as a

" regular " surgery therefore the total cost would be closer to $12,000. Hope

you don't need one! Keep the faith.

in GA

RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

> Hi,

>

> I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

> have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the gym,

> and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

> disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

> revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000. Is

> this correct?

> Bonnie

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tommy,

I would bet that Dr. R would refer you back to the manual where he tells you

very plainly that weight loss is not guaranteed. I think most surgeons

would say that if it takes them the same amount of time or longer they are

going to charge you accordingly. Just my 2 cents....

in GA

Re: RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

>

>

> > Hi Bonnie,

> > I have heard the revision costs are higher, like closer to $15,000 (just

> like the first time around). I have a 12-month follow-up with Dr.

Rutledge

> on 7/24 and I plan to discuss this very topic with him, for I too am

> frustrated I have not lost more than I expected. I had the MGB 5/26/00

and

> have lost 80 lbs, with about 40+ to go.

> >

> > When I see the good ole doc, I will ask about a revision and of course

the

> cost, so I will keep everybody posted as to what he says.

> >

> > I'm right there with you Bonnie...hang in there girl!

> >

> >

> > S. of Raleigh

> > MGb=5/26/00

> >

> >

> > wrote:

> > > Hi,

> >

> > I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

> > have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the

gym,

> > and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

> > disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

> > revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000.

Is

> > this correct?

> > Bonnie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have specifically asked Dr R this question, on more than one

occasion, and there are no warranties...

Also, I was reading some information on WLS the other day, and any

surgery where the patient loses 100 lbs is considered a success.

manda

> > > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but

seemed to

> > > have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week

at the

> gym,

> > > and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

> > > disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I

understand the

> > > revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around

$5,000.

> Is

> > > this correct?

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Don't count on it.

When it comes to the human body, there are no guarantees or warranties.

Bill I.

Re: RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

>

>

> > Hi Bonnie,

> > I have heard the revision costs are higher, like closer to $15,000 (just

> like the first time around). I have a 12-month follow-up with Dr.

Rutledge

> on 7/24 and I plan to discuss this very topic with him, for I too am

> frustrated I have not lost more than I expected. I had the MGB 5/26/00

and

> have lost 80 lbs, with about 40+ to go.

> >

> > When I see the good ole doc, I will ask about a revision and of course

the

> cost, so I will keep everybody posted as to what he says.

> >

> > I'm right there with you Bonnie...hang in there girl!

> >

> >

> > S. of Raleigh

> > MGb=5/26/00

> >

> >

> > wrote:

> > > Hi,

> >

> > I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

> > have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the

gym,

> > and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

> > disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

> > revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000.

Is

> > this correct?

> > Bonnie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

TO: in GA, etal.

Thank you for responding. That begs another question:

If the first surgery didn't work (correctly/as planned), and is not

guaranteed (?) in any fashion, why would anyone consider a second surgery by

the same doctor (for another fee) for the the same procedure ???

I'd have to give that some deep thought, before I'd do it.

Warmest Regards,

TommyB

Re: RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

> >

> >

> > > Hi Bonnie,

> > > I have heard the revision costs are higher, like closer to $15,000

(just

> > like the first time around). I have a 12-month follow-up with Dr.

> Rutledge

> > on 7/24 and I plan to discuss this very topic with him, for I too am

> > frustrated I have not lost more than I expected. I had the MGB 5/26/00

> and

> > have lost 80 lbs, with about 40+ to go.

> > >

> > > When I see the good ole doc, I will ask about a revision and of course

> the

> > cost, so I will keep everybody posted as to what he says.

> > >

> > > I'm right there with you Bonnie...hang in there girl!

> > >

> > >

> > > S. of Raleigh

> > > MGb=5/26/00

> > >

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed

to

> > > have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the

> gym,

> > > and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

> > > disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand

the

> > > revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000.

> Is

> > > this correct?

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

If you are exercising five nights a week, you must be

building alot of muscle. I can see why the weight is

not coming off. Maybe try every other day and give

your body a rest in between sessions and see if that

hellps.

aW

--- Bonnie Benton <Bluizs1212@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost

> 100 lbs. but seemed to

> have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5

> nights a week at the gym,

> and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to

> be a little

> disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to

> lose. I understand the

> revision surgery is not covered by insurance and

> costs around $5,000. Is

> this correct?

> Bonnie

>

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[Guest guest]

No the surgery cost around 12-13K provided prices haven't gone up more...

RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

Hi,

I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed to

have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the gym,

and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand the

revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000. Is

this correct?

Bonnie

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[Guest guest]

wow, good point!!!!!!!!!!

Re: RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

TO: in GA, etal.

Thank you for responding. That begs another question:

If the first surgery didn't work (correctly/as planned), and is not

guaranteed (?) in any fashion, why would anyone consider a second surgery by

the same doctor (for another fee) for the the same procedure ???

I'd have to give that some deep thought, before I'd do it.

Warmest Regards,

TommyB

Re: RE: losing weight and stopping losing weight

> >

> >

> > > Hi Bonnie,

> > > I have heard the revision costs are higher, like closer to $15,000

(just

> > like the first time around). I have a 12-month follow-up with Dr.

> Rutledge

> > on 7/24 and I plan to discuss this very topic with him, for I too am

> > frustrated I have not lost more than I expected. I had the MGB 5/26/00

> and

> > have lost 80 lbs, with about 40+ to go.

> > >

> > > When I see the good ole doc, I will ask about a revision and of course

> the

> > cost, so I will keep everybody posted as to what he says.

> > >

> > > I'm right there with you Bonnie...hang in there girl!

> > >

> > >

> > > S. of Raleigh

> > > MGb=5/26/00

> > >

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I had surgery on 4/12/2000. To date, I have lost 100 lbs. but seemed

to

> > > have stopped losing last November. I exercise 5 nights a week at the

> gym,

> > > and take my vitamins religiously. I am beginning to be a little

> > > disappointed, as I still have around 100 lbs to lose. I understand

the

> > > revision surgery is not covered by insurance and costs around $5,000.

> Is

> > > this correct?

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > >

> > >