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> What, other than diet would be a treatment for Leaky Gut??? Any sort of

> drug??? What specific herbs... Any good web sites out there with good info???

>

The expert on leaky gut is Dr. Leo Galland. See

http://www.mdheal.org/leakygut.htm

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I'm a 36 year old with leaky gut. I've been on a GFCF diet for 1 1/2

years - that is until I started taking peptizyde and ZP. After an initial

few days of increased diarrhea and gas (the enzymes were clearing out old

debris in my gut), I could tell the enzymes were working!! Not only can I

eat the foods I want, but I'm MUCH LESS anxious, sleep better, less

emotionally labile, more content, and no longer have food cravings. These

enzymes are such a blessing for me.

Another product that has really helped to heal my gut is Kirkman's GFCF

colostrum. After starting that my gut was much less reactive that

previously.

Hope this helps. Tania

[ ] Leaky Gut

> Is anyone here dealing with leaky gut? Are there tests you can have

> run to tell? Or is it by symptoms only? Also, what are you doing to

> treat this problem? I know digestive enzymes are highly recommended

> as part of the healing process.

>

> Thanks,

> .

>

>

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How did you find out you had a " Leaky Gut " ? Was there a test I could

have run, or is it by symptoms only?

I have heard good things about colostrum and may try that next. Has

anyone heard of a product called Transfer Factor? I think it is

supposed to be intense colostrum. Also, if I go colostrum hunting,

are there quality issues?

So GOOOOOOD to hear of your success with enzymes. The more I read

about them the more they seem so fundamental to healing all kinds of

ailments - autoimmune, allergies, chronic diseases, skin problems,

gastro problems, etc.

.

> I'm a 36 year old with leaky gut. I've been on a GFCF diet for 1

1/2

> years - that is until I started taking peptizyde and ZP. After an

initial

> few days of increased diarrhea and gas (the enzymes were clearing

out old

> debris in my gut), I could tell the enzymes were working!! Not

only can I

> eat the foods I want, but I'm MUCH LESS anxious, sleep better, less

> emotionally labile, more content, and no longer have food

cravings. These

> enzymes are such a blessing for me.

> Another product that has really helped to heal my gut is

Kirkman's GFCF

> colostrum. After starting that my gut was much less reactive that

> previously.

> Hope this helps. Tania

> [ ] Leaky Gut

>

>

> > Is anyone here dealing with leaky gut? Are there tests you can

have

> > run to tell? Or is it by symptoms only? Also, what are you doing

to

> > treat this problem? I know digestive enzymes are highly

recommended

> > as part of the healing process.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > .

> >

> >

> >

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My leaky gut was diagnosed simply by the symptoms I was having - chronic

diarrhea that was relieved after starting a GFCF diet, and that got worse

with dietary infractions. There is a test at Great Smokies Laboratories

called an intestinal permeability test that will definitively diagnose leaky

gut.

[ ] Leaky Gut

> >

> >

> > > Is anyone here dealing with leaky gut? Are there tests you can

> have

> > > run to tell? Or is it by symptoms only? Also, what are you doing

> to

> > > treat this problem? I know digestive enzymes are highly

> recommended

> > > as part of the healing process.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > .

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Yes, it is. I did the 30 day leaky gut do it yourself test described by

Wharton in Metabolic Man from Dr. Sherry 's book, No More Heartburn.

Its 5 grams l-glutamine (powder best) twice a day one or two hours before or

after meals. If gut symptoms diminish you've treated it. Going to repeat it

for peace of mind more than any recurring problems as I hadn't given up

gluten at the time. This link also suggests zinc

http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C340881.html

Wanita

> Following on from some posts re leaky gut, I've been

> reading up about it. Glutamine is a commonly

> recommended supplement to help heal. Is this is the

> same as l-glutamine?

>

> Thanks

>

> Jo

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Amen !!!! This I truly believe is where we have to start our

healing. LDN may help with symptoms but this article I believe is the

beginning of healing the disease. My feeling is that God made our

bodies with the ability to heal itself. But only when we give it what

it needs to do this job. For any job to be done properly the prober

tools have to be supplied. LDN will help us with symptoms but for

longterm healing...this article is vital.

Kathy H

On 28-Sep-04, at 2:10 PM, Bayuk wrote:

> Altered Immunity & Leaky Gut Syndrome

>

> by Zoltan P. Rona MD, MSc

>

> The leaky gut syndrome is the name given to a very common health

> disorder in which the basic organic defect (lesion) is an intestinal

> lining which is more permeable (porous) than normal. The abnormally

> large spaces present between the cells of the gut wall allow the entry

> of toxic material into the bloodstream that would, in healthier

> circumstances, be repelled and eliminated. The gut becomes leaky in

> the sense that bacteria, fungi, parasites and their toxins, undigested

> protein, fat and waste normally not absorbed into the bloodstream in

> the healthy state, pass through a damaged, hyperpermeable, porous or

> " leaky " gut. This can be verified by special gut permeability urine

> tests, microscopic examination of the lining of the intestinal wall as

> well as the bloodstream with phase contrast or darkfield microscopy of

> living whole blood.

>

> Why is The Leaky Gut Syndrome Important?

>

> The leaky gut syndrome is almost always associated with autoimmune

> disease and reversing autoimmune disease depends on healing the lining

> of the gastrointestinal tract. Any other treatment is just symptom

> suppression. An autoimmune disease is defined as one in which the

> immune system makes antibodies against its own tissues. Diseases in

> this category include lupus, alopecia areata, rheumatoid arthritis,

> polymyalgia rheumatica, multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, chronic

> fatigue syndrome, Sjogren's syndrome, vitiligo, thyroiditis,

> vasculitis, Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, urticaria (hives),

> diabetes and Raynaud's disease. Physicians are increasingly

> recognizing the importance of the gastrointestinal tract in the

> development of allergic or autoimmune disease. Understanding the leaky

> gut phenomenon not only helps us see why allergies and autoimmune

> diseases develop but also helps us with safe and effective therapies

> to bring the body back into balance.

>

> Due to the enlarged spaces between the cells of the gut wall, larger

> than usual protein molecules are absorbed before they have a chance to

> be completely broken down as occurs when the intestinal lining is

> intact. The immune system starts making antibodies against these

> larger molecules because it recognizes them as foreign, invading

> substances. The immune system starts treating them as if they had to

> be destroyed. Antibodies are made against these proteins derived from

> previously harmless foods.

>

> Human tissues have antigenic sites very similar to those on foods,

> bacteria, parasites, candida or fungi. The antibodies created by the

> leaky gut phenomenon against these antigens can get into various

> tissues and trigger an inflammatory reaction when the corresponding

> food is consumed or the microbe is encountered. Autoantibodies are

> thus created and inflammation becomes chronic. If this inflammation

> occurs in a joint, autoimmune arthritis (rheumatoid arthritis)

> develops. If it occurs in the brain, myalgic encephalomyelitis (a.k.a.

> chronic fatigue syndrome) may be the result. If it occurs in the blood

> vessels, vasculitis (inflammation of the blood vessels) is the

> resulting autoimmune problem. If the antibodies end up attacking the

> lining of the gut itself, the result may be colitis or Crohn's

> disease. If it occurs in the lungs, asthma is triggered on a delayed

> basis every time the individual consumes the food which triggered the

> production of the antibodies in the first place. It is easy to see

> that practically any organ or body tissue can become affected by food

> allergies created by the leaky gut. Symptoms, especially those seen in

> conditions such as chronic fatigue syndrome, can be multiple and

> severely debilitating.

>

> The inflammation that causes the leaky gut syndrome also damages the

> protective coating of antibodies of the IgA family normally present in

> a healthy gut. Since IgA helps us ward off infections, with leaky gut

> problems we become less resistant to viruses, bacteria, parasites and

> candida. These microbes are then able to invade the bloodstream and

> colonize almost any body tissue or organ. When this occurs in the

> gums, periodontal disease results. If it happens in the jaw, tooth

> extraction or root canals might be necessary to cure the infection.

>

> In addition to the creation of food allergies by the leaky gut, the

> bloodstream is invaded by bacteria, fungi and parasites that, in the

> healthy state, would not penetrate the protective barrier of the gut.

> These microbes and their toxins, if present in large enough amounts,

> can overwhelm the liver's ability to detoxify. This results in

> symptoms such as confusion, memory loss, brain fog or facial swelling

> when the individual is exposed to a perfume or to cigarette smoke that

> he or she had no adverse reactions to prior to the development of the

> leaky gut syndrome.

>

> Leaky gut syndrome also creates a long list of mineral deficiencies

> because the various carrier proteins present in the gastrointestinal

> tract that are needed to transport minerals from the intestine to the

> blood are damaged by the inflammation process. For example, magnesium

> deficiency (low red blood cell magnesium) is quite a common finding in

> conditions like fibromyalgia despite a high magnesium intake through

> the diet and supplementation. If the carrier protein for magnesium is

> damaged, magnesium deficiency develops as a result of malabsorption.

> Muscle pain and spasms can occur as a result. Similarly, zinc

> deficiency due to malabsorption can result in hair loss or baldness as

> occurs in alopecia areata. Copper deficiency can occur in an identical

> way leading to high blood cholesterol levels and osteoarthritis.

> Further, bone problems develop as a result of the malabsorption of

> calcium, boron, silicon and manganese.

>

> The Causes

>

> The leaky gut syndrome is basically caused by inflammation of the gut

> lining. This inflammation is usually brought about by the following:

>

> · Antibiotics because they lead to the overgrowth of abnormal flora in

> the gastrointestinal tract (bacteria, parasites, candida, fungi) ·

> Alcohol and caffeine (strong gut irritants)

> · Foods and beverages contaminated by parasites like giardia lamblia,

> cryptosporidium, blastocystis hominis and others

> · Foods and beverages contaminated by bacteria like helicobacter

> pylori, klebsiella,

> · citrobacter, pseudomonas and others

> · Chemicals in fermented and processed food (dyes, preservatives,

> peroxidized fats) · Enzyme deficiencies (e.g. celiac disease, lactase

> deficiency causing lactose intolerance)

> · NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) like ASA, ibuprofen,

> indomethacin,

> · Prescription corticosteroids (e.g. prednisone)

> · High refined carbohydrate diet (e.g. candy bars, cookies, cake, soft

> drinks, white

> · bread) Prescription hormones like the birth control pill Mold and

> fungal mycotoxins in stored grains, fruit and refined carbohydrates.

>

> The leaky gut syndrome can cause the malabsorption of many important

> micronutrients. The inflammatory process causes swelling (edema) and

> the presence of many noxious chemicals all of which can block the

> absorption of vitamins and essential amino acids. A leaky gut does not

> absorb nutrients properly. Bloating, gas and cramps occur as do a long

> list of vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Eventually, systemic

> complaints like fatigue, headaches, memory loss, poor concentration or

> irritability develop.

>

> Prescription broad spectrum antibiotics, especially when taken for

> extended periods of time, wipe out all the gut friendly bacteria that

> provide protection against fungi and amoebic (parasitic) infections,

> help the body break down complex foods and synthesize vitamins like

> B12 and biotin. Since this friendly bowel flora is killed off, the

> body now has no local defence against the parasites or fungi that are

> normally held in check. This then causes an inflammatory reaction

> leading to the leaky gut syndrome. Food allergies quickly develop and

> these may trigger the signs and symptoms of arthritis, eczema,

> migraines, asthma or other forms of immune dysfunction. Other common

> symptoms of this bowel flora imbalance and leaky gut syndrome are

> bloating and gas after meals and alternating constipation with

> diarrhea. This set of symptoms is usually labelled as IBS (irritable

> bowel syndrome) or spastic bowel disease and treated symptomatically

> by general practitioners and gastroenterologists with antispasmodic

> drugs, tranquilizers or different types of soluble (psyllium) and

> insoluble (bran) fiber.

>

> The Leaky Gut and IBS

>

> The mainstream thinking on IBS is that it is caused by stress.

> Irritable bowel syndrome is the number one reason for general

> practitioner referrals to specialists. In well over 80% of the cases,

> tests like the intestinal permeability test (a special urine test

> involving the determination of absorption rates of two sugars called

> lactulose and mannitol), CDSA or livecell darkfield microscopy reveal

> the presence of an overgrowth of fungi, parasites or pathogenic

> bacteria. The one-celled parasite, blastocystis hominis and different

> species of candida are the most common microbes seen in IBS. The only

> stress associated with IBS is that which is generated by infection and

> the leaky gut syndrome. If allowed to persist without the correct

> treatment, IBS can progress into more serious disorders like the

> candidiasis syndrome, multiple chemical sensitivities, chronic fatigue

> syndrome, many autoimmune diseases and even cancer. If treated

> medically, IBS is rarely cured. To treat it correctly, natural

> treatments work best and must include the removal of the cause,

> improvement of gastrointestinal function and healing the lining of the

> gut.

>

> How to Reverse Leaky Gut Syndrome

>

> Band-aid treatments with corticosteroids, prescription antibiotics and

> immuno suppressive drugs may be temporarily life-saving for acute

> episodes of pain, bleeding or severe inflammation as occurs in lupus

> or colitis. In the long run, however, none of these treatments do

> anything to heal the leaky gut problem. To reverse the leaky gut

> syndrome the diet must be completely changed to one which is as

> hypoallergenic as possible. Sugar, white flour products, all

> gluten-containing grains (especially wheat, barley, oats and rye),

> milk and dairy products, high fat foods, caffeine products, alcohol

> and hidden food allergies determined by testing must all be eliminated

> for long periods of time (several years in the most severe cases).

>

> Treatment might also include the use of natural antibiotics

> (echinacea, colloidal silver, garlic), antiparasitics (cloves,

> wormwood, black walnut) and antifungals (taheebo, caprylic acid,

> grapefruit seed extract) depending on the type of infection which

> shows up on objective tests. It is rare that victims require

> prescription drugs for these infections and they should be

> discouraged. The drugs are usually expensive, have unpleasant side

> effects and are best reserved for life-threatening conditions.

>

> Leaky gut syndrome patients can help themselves by chewing their food

> more thoroughly, following the basic rules of food combining, eating

> frequent small meals rather than three large ones and taking more time

> with their meals. Gastrointestinal function can be improved with a

> juice fast or a hypoallergenic diet and supplements like lactobacillus

> acidophilus and bifidus as well as FOS (fructooligosaccharides)

> derived from Jerusalem artichoke, chicory, the dahlia plant or burdock

> root.

>

> Beneficial Supplements for Leaky Gut Syndrome

>

> Natural digestive enzymes - from plant (e,g, bromelain, papain) or

> pancreatic animal tissues (porcine, bovine, lamb) and aloe vera juice

> with a high MPS concentration (good brands are International Aloe,

> Earthnet and Royal) stomach acidity enhancing supplements - betaine

> and pepsin, glutamic acid, stomach bitters, apple cider vinegar amino

> acids - L-glutamine, N-acetyl-glucosamine (NAG) essential fatty acids

> - milled flax, flax seed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil, olive

> oil, fish oils, black currant seed oil soluble fiber - psyllium seed

> husks and powder, apple or citrus pectin, the rice derived gamma

> oryzanol, antioxidants - carotenoids, B complex, vitamin C, E, zinc,

> selenium, germanium, Coenzyme Q10, bioflavonoids, especially

> quercetin, catechin, hesperidin, rutin and proanthocyanidins

> (pycnogenols, grape seed extract, pine bark extract, bilberry) herbs

> and plant extracts - kudzu, various high chlorophyll containing green

> drinks like spirulina, chlorella and blue green algae, burdock,

> slippery elm, Turkish rhubarb, sheep sorrel, licorice root, ginger

> root, goldenseal, bismuth and bentonite. Combination Green Foods - two

> excellent products are Green Life (Bioquest) and Greens Plus

> (Supplements Plus)

>

> Due to the increasing recognition of chronic fatigue syndrome, the

> leaky gut syndrome and multiple chemical sensitivity, a number of

> supplement companies have been marketing powdered hypoallergenic

> formulations containing most of the nutrients mentioned above in one

> convenient package. Some brand names include Ultrabalance®, UltraClear

> Sustain®, UltraClear Plus®, Pro-Cleanse®, Pro-Support® and ActiClear®.

> The products are only available through natural health care

> practitioners like chiropractors, nutritional doctors and naturopaths.

> If you suspect you may be suffering from leaky gut syndrome, the most

> important thing to do is get yourself tested by a natural health care

> practitioner. A personalized natural program of diet and supplements

> can then be instituted to help you reverse this debilitating

> condition.

>

> REFERENCES

>

> 1. Gittleman, A.L., Guess What came

>

>

>

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Elio,

There is a current study at Penn State University involving LDN and Crohn.s

disease. Dr. Bihari tells me that all patients in thestudy are doing well

and showing very positive results.

Regards,

Tom

[low dose naltrexone] Leaky Gut

Has anyone on LDN had improvements with conditions like " Leaky gut "

Irritable Bowel syndrome Colitis Crohn's or any other gut related issues.

Elio

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The the more reason for me to get on LDN. Even if I

don't have MS. This would help my gut.

Thank you add God Bless you Tom

Elio

--- tom bayuk <tbayuk@...> wrote:

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Elio,

There is a current study at Penn State University

involving LDN and Crohn.s

disease. Dr. Bihari tells me that all patients in

thestudy are doing well

and showing very positive results.

Regards,

Tom

[low dose naltrexone] Leaky Gut

Has anyone on LDN had improvements with conditions

like " Leaky gut "

Irritable Bowel syndrome Colitis Crohn's or any other

gut related issues.

Elio

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beneficial aspects Oats in GF diet

http://www.nutritionsociety.org.uk/bjn/090/bjn0900101.htm

Altered Immunity & Leaky Gut Syndrome

http://www.afpafitness.com/articles/LEAKGUT4.HTM

Oat info on leaky gut at end of this article

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionleakygut.htm

What is Leaky Gut

The largest part of the immune system in our body is in the mucosal lining in the gut. The immune system makes sure all those undesirable elements do not get across into the bloodstream to begin with. The intestines are permeable to a certain degree so the proper nutrients get through. Spots in the gut wall open and close selectively to admit the good stuff as the contents of the intestines pass by. Normally, only certain nutrients are absorbed if they are sufficiently broken-down and in the right form. Everything else is selectively blocked out. But when the pores are too big or the screening process breaks down, the intestines become hyperpermeable (overly permeable). Leaky gut syndrome is a term used when the intestines become damaged, more openings develop in the gut wall, and the wall becomes more ‘porous’ to the extent that some of the contents passing through the intestines are allowed to get into the bloodstream when they should be kept out.

Not just food particles slip through. Pathogens, toxins, and other types of ‘waste’ get through that should normally be screened out. Insufficiently broken-down food particles or toxins may cause the liver to work much harder trying to clean everything out. The liver may not be able to keep up with all the detoxification demands sent its way and the toxin load starts building up in the body.

When the gut becomes hyperpermeable, all sorts of gunk can get through and run loose in the body. When this happens, the immune system kicks into gear to stop these invaders. Typically the immune system escorts the invaded out of the body quickly. However, this task often falls to the liver, which may be quite overworked and not able to do this immediately. If not removed right away, the troublesome particles and complexes can migrate through the body and settle in any of the different tissues they pass by. This leads to inflammation in whatever part of the body they settle.

Symptoms of leaky gut syndrome may include:

• aggression • anxiety • asthma • atypical sensory reactions • bed-wetting • bladder infections • bloating or gas • chronic joint, muscle, or abdominal pain • confusion • diarrhea or constipation • fatigue • fevers of unknown origin • fuzzy thinking or ‘brain fog’ • indigestion • memory problems • migraines • mood swings • nervousness • poor exercise tolerance • poor immunity • skin rashes

Besides particles being too large, escaping into the bloodstream, wandering loose in the body, and causing havoc, there is another side to consider. Because the food was not digested and absorbed properly, the person may experience nutrient deficiencies. In one area, the nutrients are bound up in a manner the body does not recognize and hailing in the immune system to remove them. Yet, in another location, the body is starving for those same nutrients. The biological system is overworking unnecessarily in one area while shutting down somewhere else because of insufficient raw materials.

Vitamin therapies may target some of these other systems starving for raw materials. By supplying just the one or two specific raw materials, we may temporarily fix that part, if the vitamin can even reach the intended area of the body, but the system as a whole is still malfunctioning. If the gut is not absorbing food well, then the supplements may not be absorbed well either. A better plan is to fix the hole in the boat (heal the gut)

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I wanted to point out that the gut is one of the favorite hangouts of

Bartonella, and that I suspect that candida is not the " only source "

of leaky gut. I believe, but cannot yet prove in any way, that other

species of toxic mold can take up residence in the gut, and that they

are immune to the methods that would attack candida. It's as if there

is a belief out there that the only source of leaky gut is candida,

and there is an entire industry out there busily selling supplements

to kill off candida, while ignoring any other possible causes.

I do know that I have leaky gut, have had a severe case for many

years, and that all my candida tests are negative, plus I do not crave

sugar or sweets. I do not Herx to anti-candida substances; but I do

Herx strongly to Bart/mold frequencies on my frequency machine.

Draw your own conclusion.

MA

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I bought probiotics today will that help?

In a message dated 2/12/2011 5:21:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

denise.danel@... writes:

thank you but did any supplements help you. i hear a lot from vit6

l-glutamate,

any thing like that?

thanks for your reply

denise

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leaky gut can be caused by anything that distroys the mucosal lineing

in the stomach than on to tissue damage. in most cases it's the " chronic " attack

of " whatever " that leads to mucosal damage.

whatever, because it could be a combination of many things,with WDB exposure. if

you have candida without WDB exposure, thats one thing, if you get candida

because of your WDB exposure, thats another thing.

the later and leaky gut is not just about candida, the exposure leads to

candida. what you breath you also eat.

>

> I wanted to point out that the gut is one of the favorite hangouts of

> Bartonella, and that I suspect that candida is not the " only source "

> of leaky gut. I believe, but cannot yet prove in any way, that other

> species of toxic mold can take up residence in the gut, and that they

> are immune to the methods that would attack candida. It's as if there

> is a belief out there that the only source of leaky gut is candida,

> and there is an entire industry out there busily selling supplements

> to kill off candida, while ignoring any other possible causes.

>

> I do know that I have leaky gut, have had a severe case for many

> years, and that all my candida tests are negative, plus I do not crave

> sugar or sweets. I do not Herx to anti-candida substances; but I do

> Herx strongly to Bart/mold frequencies on my frequency machine.

>

> Draw your own conclusion.

>

> MA

>

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i am just getting on board to this discussion, so this may have been discussed,

but what do you do for your leaky gut? treatments like colonics, supplements

like b6, l-glutamate? can a leaky gut be cured?

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From: osisposis <jeaninem660@...>

Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 11:57:26 AM

Subject: [] Re: Leaky Gut

leaky gut can be caused by anything that distroys the mucosal lineing

in the stomach than on to tissue damage. in most cases it's the " chronic " attack

of " whatever " that leads to mucosal damage.

whatever, because it could be a combination of many things,with WDB exposure. if

you have candida without WDB exposure, thats one thing, if you get candida

because of your WDB exposure, thats another thing.

the later and leaky gut is not just about candida, the exposure leads to

candida. what you breath you also eat.

>

> I wanted to point out that the gut is one of the favorite hangouts of

> Bartonella, and that I suspect that candida is not the " only source "

> of leaky gut. I believe, but cannot yet prove in any way, that other

> species of toxic mold can take up residence in the gut, and that they

> are immune to the methods that would attack candida. It's as if there

> is a belief out there that the only source of leaky gut is candida,

> and there is an entire industry out there busily selling supplements

> to kill off candida, while ignoring any other possible causes.

>

> I do know that I have leaky gut, have had a severe case for many

> years, and that all my candida tests are negative, plus I do not crave

> sugar or sweets. I do not Herx to anti-candida substances; but I do

> Herx strongly to Bart/mold frequencies on my frequency machine.

>

> Draw your own conclusion.

>

> MA

>

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the number one thing is to avoid anything that aggervates the condition. with

leaky gut you can become reactive to many things that get into your system

because of mucosal damage and the following tissue damage that allows things in

your stomach to get into tissue and into the blood stream. for me, my stomach

told me what I could eat or not eat. it also told me what exposures I could

breath that also affected my stomach in that I better be finding a bathroom real

quick and I was going to be in some pain for awhile.

just one more thing that hinders lifestyle.

as far as treatment, be the time it was diagnosed that I had stomach issues that

might be in part from leaky gut, I had other problems on top of that,so no

doctors really prescribed anything.

I did have some food allergy and intolerance testing done that helped me

reconize some of the things I now had to delete from my diet.

I reconized alot of things myself, like canned goods, mostly canned veggies,

luchmeats if they weren't really fresh, fruit if it's getting overly ripe, yeast

breads, eggs,dairy products. some of these thing I can tolerate now, some I

still cant tolerate.

some were allergies,others were intolerances.

actually the allergy and intolerance testing helped me realize I had to start

paying attn. to what upset my stomach and avoid it. did a deit of greens and

white meat for about a year, that helped alot.

over time the bloody dierrhea has went from happening everyday to

just happening sometimes, the dierrhea it'self that was chronic during exposures

and for several years after exposure has finally calmed down alot the last few

years,and only happen now if something aggervates my stomach.

>

> i am just getting on board to this discussion, so this may have been

discussed,

> but what do you do for your leaky gut? treatments like colonics, supplements

> like b6, l-glutamate? can a leaky gut be cured?

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thank you but did any supplements help you. i hear a lot from vit6 l-glutamate,

any thing like that?

thanks for your reply

denise

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Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 12:49:51 PM

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the number one thing is to avoid anything that aggervates the condition. with

leaky gut you can become reactive to many things

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yes that would be very good. like i said vit b6 and L-glutamate starts to heal

the gut. i just found this...

Dr Natasha -McBride's book,

Gut and Psychology Syndrome. She explains how a normal digestive system should

work, what goes wrong, and how to heal with diet and probiotics.

http://www.gaps.me/preview/

i am still reading it, but check it out

denise

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From: " Gingersnap1964@... " <Gingersnap1964@...>

Sent: Sat, February 12, 2011 3:33:18 PM

Subject: Re: [] Re: Leaky Gut

I bought probiotics today will that help?

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I bought probiotics today will that help?

YES, BUT NOT all by itself. Leaky gut is caused by candida overgrowth so you

will need to follow the protocols for eliminating it, which of course probiotics

is one. The others are detoxing, antifungals, immune boosting, nutritional

supplementation and good diet.

ap

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This is very interesting. What is a frequency machine?

---From: Mystic Tuba

I wanted to point out that the gut is one of the favorite hangouts of

Bartonella, and that I suspect that candida is not the " only source "

of leaky gut. I believe, but cannot yet prove in any way, that other

species of toxic mold can take up residence in the gut, and that they

are immune to the methods that would attack candida. It's as if there

is a belief out there that the only source of leaky gut is candida,

and there is an entire industry out there busily selling supplements

to kill off candida, while ignoring any other possible causes.

I do know that I have leaky gut, have had a severe case for many

years, and that all my candida tests are negative, plus I do not crave

sugar or sweets. I do not Herx to anti-candida substances; but I do

Herx strongly to Bart/mold frequencies on my frequency machine.

Draw your own conclusion.

MA

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