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folks..... i have already sent this post once, but in case it just

didnt send here it is again...

the fund....

what if something negative happens to someone we " fund " to have the

MGB? i mean, this would be a concern even if we were funding root

canals (nothing personal toward the MGB) lord knows i have had ZERO

complications and would not expect anyone else to have a problem

either....but......

also look at the chance on some kook being the one who

gets " funded " at least one nut got through dr r's STRICT screening

and became " disgruntled " i would hate to have been a person who

gave even a word of encouragement to THAT one!(hey! WHO KNEW??) i

love this surgery and i tell EVERYONE how well it did for me, but

i always follow up with if you are interested, i suggest they

research and do all the things required. i would NEVER venture to

give money to someone to have this surgery or even that root canal i

spoke of earlier. somehow this just seems to leave us all open to a

liable suit or something.... i am NOT an attorney i know NOTHING

about any of this.....can someone shed light on this?

xoxoxo

cs

> Count me in, too. I would be happy to contribute to this fund.

It

> sounds like a wonderful idea and a way to give a little back. We

have

> been very fortunate!!! BTW, I have been released by my surgeon

unless

> I have more problems. Still tire very easily and take a nap almost

> every day. I'll be out of work about 2 more weeks. Thanks to

everyone

> for your support and good wishes!!!

> Dries Dr. Rutledge 11/15/2000 300/198/?175

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Hey ,

I sent an email to Trish - requesting names and emails of attorneys that

have had an MGB - so that we can contact them first for some legal advice!

Talk to you

soon!

Carol

GREAT IDEA LINDA

> > >

> > >

> > > i am linda count me in.....i remember us talkin bout

this........sumone

> > > needs to take an initiative on it...YOU?? i would faithfully send in

my

> > > dues.....i am just too busy rite now to oversea this........

> > >

> > > ANYONE ELSE??????????

> > >

> > > ~Kathy in NC~

> > > 2/14/01

> > > 397...370....198..Goal (to lose another 20 and ps this summer)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >Sometimes when I think what would have become of me if I hadn't had

> this

> > > >surgery and I shutter with fear. That is why I wish we could start a

> > > >donation with a bank or with the Doctor where we all donate just $1

per

> > > >month, that's only $12/year, with all of us donating each year, we

> could

> > > >actually give this gift each year to one young struggling person.

> > Anybody

> > > >up for it?

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Some great ideas SUzanne and we will need alot of help!!! First, we need to

find an attorney and discuss setting up a non-profit and find out what else

we have to do. Then I would say maybe we can set up a board with Dr R

included of course and probably Dana too. But first things first! I have

emailed Trish and she is going to find out if we have any past lawyers who

might do some pro-bono work for us. We are looking for any and all input!

Carol Hirn

MGB: 01/07/2002 - Dr R

268/228/???

MGB FUND

> I would be glad to help someone. I helped with Larice, possibly one

> criteria could be that the fund only puts up part of the money,

> perhaps that would help with liability issues, then we could help

> maybe two people per year.

>

> Suzanne in Flagler Beach

> 1.15.01

> 298/195/?

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I would be glad to help someone. I helped with Larice, possibly one

criteria could be that the fund only puts up part of the money,

perhaps that would help with liability issues, then we could help

maybe two people per year.

Suzanne in Flagler Beach

1.15.01

298/195/?

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, Carol and all,

Just a few random thoughts on this, I think this is a WONDERFUL idea, I

can't tell you in the 3 years since my surgery how many people could have

benefited from this gift. It could be one way that we could give back, where

having this surgery has given all of us so much to be thankful for!

One thing that came to mind when reading the posts, many people set up

benefit accounts, such as when family loses its home to fire and have no

insurance coverage, children's benefit account when they lose a parent..... I

know these are generally non profit things, not sure how they work, any bankers

on here?

As far as the legal issues, unhappy post ops ect, when you have this

surgery you sign papers stating that you are well aware of the risks and

complications (I had one of those complications - leak) this is for Dr. R's

protection. Also, at January Support Group meeting, someone that had surgery at

Regional mentioned that having surgery with Dr. R there, under the

contract that they signed, has some type of terminology in it " global " is the

word I'm remembering, that possibly covers you for complications, any post op's

from Regional that had complications, please chime in, this would be good

to know.

As far as how whom to receive the benefit, it can be done on many levels,

financial need, health issues, name drawn from lottery.............

My last thought on this would be a name........ being an old timer here,

not sure how many remember this but our FIRST christmas party was held at Dr.

R's old office in Durham, we had an " Angel " party, we each surprised him with a

personal angel ornament ~~~ as he was OUR angel! So just a thought, I know

Oprah has her angel network ~~~ but we could have our " MGB Angel Fund " ?????

Hugs, Kathy G

Kathy from NC

MGB W/Dr. Rutledge 1-6-99

Pre-Op weight 330

March 6, 2000 177 Healthy baby boy born 11/16/00

(141 gone in 1 year!)

Partners Medicare Choice/won on appeal

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it is me ..... being cranky again......

i know everyone thinks i am a stick in the mud, but.....

if we are not legally liable.... wouldn't you still feel awful for

funding a person who has a terrible complication or turns out to be a

kook? like i said.... i could not sleep if i thought i had

contributed to " you-know-who's " surgery i guess i just have a

guilty nature! i am glad you all want to spread the joy.....so do i,

but i dont think i can in good concience on this one. i think i am

more worried about funding a nut than any complication as i dont see

much in the way of problems with the surgery. good luck with this

endeavor.

my $.02

xoxoxo

cs

>

> , Carol and all,

>

> Just a few random thoughts on this, I think this is a WONDERFUL

idea, I can't tell you in the 3 years since my surgery how many

people could have benefited from this gift. It could be one way that

we could give back, where having this surgery has given all of us so

much to be thankful for!

>

> One thing that came to mind when reading the posts, many

people set up benefit accounts, such as when family loses its home

to fire and have no insurance coverage, children's benefit account

when they lose a parent..... I know these are generally non profit

things, not sure how they work, any bankers on here?

>

> As far as the legal issues, unhappy post ops ect, when you

have this surgery you sign papers stating that you are well aware of

the risks and complications (I had one of those complications - leak)

this is for Dr. R's protection. Also, at January Support Group

meeting, someone that had surgery at Regional mentioned that

having surgery with Dr. R there, under the contract that they signed,

has some type of terminology in it " global " is the word I'm

remembering, that possibly covers you for complications, any post

op's from Regional that had complications, please chime in,

this would be good to know.

>

> As far as how whom to receive the benefit, it can be done on

many levels, financial need, health issues, name drawn from

lottery.............

>

> My last thought on this would be a name........ being an old

timer here, not sure how many remember this but our FIRST christmas

party was held at Dr. R's old office in Durham, we had an " Angel "

party, we each surprised him with a personal angel ornament ~~~ as he

was OUR angel! So just a thought, I know Oprah has her angel

network ~~~ but we could have our " MGB Angel Fund " ?????

>

> Hugs, Kathy G

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Kathy from NC

> MGB W/Dr. Rutledge 1-6-99

> Pre-Op weight 330

> March 6, 2000 177 Healthy baby boy born 11/16/00

> (141 gone in 1 year!)

> Partners Medicare Choice/won on appeal

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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I agree with .

Having come up with the $13,000 to pay for my surgery and travel

expenses, I think there is tremendous ownership in your success when

you had to sacrifice to get it.

Sticking in the mud also....

Molly

> >

> > , Carol and all,

> >

> > Just a few random thoughts on this, I think this is a

WONDERFUL

> idea, I can't tell you in the 3 years since my surgery how many

> people could have benefited from this gift. It could be one way

that

> we could give back, where having this surgery has given all of us

so

> much to be thankful for!

> >

> > One thing that came to mind when reading the posts, many

> people set up benefit accounts, such as when family loses its home

> to fire and have no insurance coverage, children's benefit account

> when they lose a parent..... I know these are generally non profit

> things, not sure how they work, any bankers on here?

> >

> > As far as the legal issues, unhappy post ops ect, when you

> have this surgery you sign papers stating that you are well aware

of

> the risks and complications (I had one of those complications -

leak)

> this is for Dr. R's protection. Also, at January Support Group

> meeting, someone that had surgery at Regional mentioned that

> having surgery with Dr. R there, under the contract that they

signed,

> has some type of terminology in it " global " is the word I'm

> remembering, that possibly covers you for complications, any post

> op's from Regional that had complications, please chime in,

> this would be good to know.

> >

> > As far as how whom to receive the benefit, it can be done

on

> many levels, financial need, health issues, name drawn from

> lottery.............

> >

> > My last thought on this would be a name........ being an

old

> timer here, not sure how many remember this but our FIRST christmas

> party was held at Dr. R's old office in Durham, we had an " Angel "

> party, we each surprised him with a personal angel ornament ~~~ as

he

> was OUR angel! So just a thought, I know Oprah has her angel

> network ~~~ but we could have our " MGB Angel Fund " ?????

> >

> > Hugs, Kathy G

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Kathy from NC

> > MGB W/Dr. Rutledge 1-6-99

> > Pre-Op weight 330

> > March 6, 2000 177 Healthy baby boy born 11/16/00

> > (141 gone in 1 year!)

> > Partners Medicare Choice/won on appeal

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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I tend to agree, only my expense was more like $19,000 with the price

increase. And I will be paying on that for a very long time to come.

Judith

Re: MGB Fund

>

>

> I agree with .

>

> Having come up with the $13,000 to pay for my surgery and travel

> expenses, I think there is tremendous ownership in your success when

> you had to sacrifice to get it.

>

>

> Sticking in the mud also....

> Molly

>

>

>

> > >

> > > , Carol and all,

> > >

> > > Just a few random thoughts on this, I think this is a

> WONDERFUL

> > idea, I can't tell you in the 3 years since my surgery how many

> > people could have benefited from this gift. It could be one way

> that

> > we could give back, where having this surgery has given all of us

> so

> > much to be thankful for!

> > >

> > > One thing that came to mind when reading the posts, many

> > people set up benefit accounts, such as when family loses its home

> > to fire and have no insurance coverage, children's benefit account

> > when they lose a parent..... I know these are generally non profit

> > things, not sure how they work, any bankers on here?

> > >

> > > As far as the legal issues, unhappy post ops ect, when you

> > have this surgery you sign papers stating that you are well aware

> of

> > the risks and complications (I had one of those complications -

> leak)

> > this is for Dr. R's protection. Also, at January Support Group

> > meeting, someone that had surgery at Regional mentioned that

> > having surgery with Dr. R there, under the contract that they

> signed,

> > has some type of terminology in it " global " is the word I'm

> > remembering, that possibly covers you for complications, any post

> > op's from Regional that had complications, please chime in,

> > this would be good to know.

> > >

> > > As far as how whom to receive the benefit, it can be done

> on

> > many levels, financial need, health issues, name drawn from

> > lottery.............

> > >

> > > My last thought on this would be a name........ being an

> old

> > timer here, not sure how many remember this but our FIRST christmas

> > party was held at Dr. R's old office in Durham, we had an " Angel "

> > party, we each surprised him with a personal angel ornament ~~~ as

> he

> > was OUR angel! So just a thought, I know Oprah has her angel

> > network ~~~ but we could have our " MGB Angel Fund " ?????

> > >

> > > Hugs, Kathy G

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Kathy from NC

> > > MGB W/Dr. Rutledge 1-6-99

> > > Pre-Op weight 330

> > > March 6, 2000 177 Healthy baby boy born 11/16/00

> > > (141 gone in 1 year!)

> > > Partners Medicare Choice/won on appeal

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

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Hey all,

Had an interesting happen yesterday. My 16 year old daughter came home

from highschool and said that in school she has to do a speech on something

she knows about and she decided that she is going to do her speech on MGB.

When I started asking her about how much she knew about it - I was

pleasantly surprised to find out that she reallly understood ALOT about my

MGB!!!! She said to me , " Mom - I won't tell them that you had it if you

don't want me to? " I told her it was fine to tell them that her mom decided

to have MGB because I am PROUD that I have finally found a way to get my

life back!!!! My daughter went on to tell me that she had gone back to Dr

R's website and even had a movie of the surgery. I was impressed that she

had really done her homework. She finally said to me - " Mom, I am really

proud of you for having the surgery. " I had to cry - this from the daughter

who normally I have to pry things out of!!

Dr R - you really are and unbelieveable man!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!

THANK YOU!!!

Carol

MGB: 01/07/2002 - Dr R

268/242/226/????140

GREAT IDEA LINDA

> >

> >

> > i am linda count me in.....i remember us talkin bout this........sumone

> > needs to take an initiative on it...YOU?? i would faithfully send in my

> > dues.....i am just too busy rite now to oversea this........

> >

> > ANYONE ELSE??????????

> >

> > ~Kathy in NC~

> > 2/14/01

> > 397...370....198..Goal (to lose another 20 and ps this summer)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >Sometimes when I think what would have become of me if I hadn't had

this

> > >surgery and I shutter with fear. That is why I wish we could start a

> > >donation with a bank or with the Doctor where we all donate just $1 per

> > >month, that's only $12/year, with all of us donating each year, we

could

> > >actually give this gift each year to one young struggling person.

> Anybody

> > >up for it?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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