Guest guest Posted March 3, 2001 Report Share Posted March 3, 2001 Mike, You should aim for a goal of losing 2 -3 pounds of bodyfat per week. So once you determine what your goal weight will be you can go from there. Remember that some people went through several challenges to reach their goal weight safely. Also the most efficient and fastest way to lose that unwanted bodyfat is to burn the fat AND build muscle. Remember that muscle burns calories even while at rest so you will be burning fat in your sleep! Can't beat that. ~Laury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Rosemary wrote: I have felt so & *() guilty because I am still morbidly obese even though I have lost almost 90 pounds. I guess Dr. Rutledge gave me what he promised and that was a healthier body, but one that will still be morbidly obese. (Can not afford a revision) I did walk 3 miles a day 4-5 times a week for about 2 months (before I started my new job on 3rd shift) and as you stated didn't change my weight loss any that I could tell. Making my way back to Durham for a clinic after two years was worth it just to have this discussion with Dr. Rutledge. If diets and exercise did not work prior to surgery, there is no reason to expect them to work after surgery. Having said that, I still try to eat healthy and work out as much as I can for all of the other benefits associated with a healthy diet and regular exercise: reduced risk of heart disease, decreased risk of cancer, less loss of bone mass, etc. I also take great satisfaction from knowing that I am not gaining weight over time as I did steadily prior to surgery. For me, this was never a cosmetic quest, so not losing the last 25 pounds to " goal " is a lot less important than knowing that I can play three sets of singles tennis now and feel good afterwards. Mike.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 I don't mean to disagree with Dr. R about diet and exercise but let me say this...... The reason dieting did not work for me I believe was in large part related to my appetite and my ability to hold huge quantities of food. I didn't always overeat but I did quite often obviously. I didn't exercise at all unfortunately! Now that I have a smaller stomach and can hold less food the overeating issue doesn't really come into play. I am able to stay within my points range on WW somewhat effortless (I do have to watch things or I do go over!) and therefore I believe that " dieting " will help me get to my goal. I am now exercising so that should also help. I agree that most of us dieted ourselves into the condition that we were in when we had surgery. However, " dieting " for me is no longer the horrible prospect that it once was. I don't even consider WW a diet - I consider it the program I am using to teach me how to eat in a nutritious " normal " way to allow me to live a long and healthy life. Just my two cents........ in GA RE: to Mike > Rosemary wrote: > I have felt so & *() guilty because > I am still morbidly obese even though I have lost almost 90 pounds. I > guess > Dr. Rutledge gave me what he promised and that was a healthier body, but > one > that will still be morbidly obese. (Can not afford a revision) I did > walk 3 > miles a day 4-5 times a week for about 2 months (before I started my new > job > on 3rd shift) and as you stated didn't change my weight loss any that I > could tell. > > Making my way back to Durham for a clinic after two years was worth it > just to have this discussion with Dr. Rutledge. If diets and exercise > did not work prior to surgery, there is no reason to expect them to work > after surgery. Having said that, I still try to eat healthy and work out > as much as I can for all of the other benefits associated with a healthy > diet and regular exercise: reduced risk of heart disease, decreased risk > of cancer, less loss of bone mass, etc. I also take great satisfaction > from knowing that I am not gaining weight over time as I did steadily > prior to surgery. For me, this was never a cosmetic quest, so not losing > the last 25 pounds to " goal " is a lot less important than knowing that I > can play three sets of singles tennis now and feel good afterwards. > > Mike.... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 , Dr. R's point, and mine, is that we should not get into a guilt trip like we used to about dieting. The hard facts are that very few people successfully lose weight over time by dieting. Something less than 10%. Eating healthy and exercising regularly are of course life survival strategies completely unrelated to weight loss. Mike..... Re: to Mike I don't mean to disagree with Dr. R about diet and exercise but let me say this...... The reason dieting did not work for me I believe was in large part related to my appetite and my ability to hold huge quantities of food. I didn't always overeat but I did quite often obviously. I didn't exercise at all unfortunately! Now that I have a smaller stomach and can hold less food the overeating issue doesn't really come into play. I am able to stay within my points range on WW somewhat effortless (I do have to watch things or I do go over!) and therefore I believe that " dieting " will help me get to my goal. I am now exercising so that should also help. I agree that most of us dieted ourselves into the condition that we were in when we had surgery. However, " dieting " for me is no longer the horrible prospect that it once was. I don't even consider WW a diet - I consider it the program I am using to teach me how to eat in a nutritious " normal " way to allow me to live a long and healthy life. Just my two cents........ in GA RE: to Mike > Rosemary wrote: > I have felt so & *() guilty because > I am still morbidly obese even though I have lost almost 90 pounds. I > guess > Dr. Rutledge gave me what he promised and that was a healthier body, but > one > that will still be morbidly obese. (Can not afford a revision) I did > walk 3 > miles a day 4-5 times a week for about 2 months (before I started my new > job > on 3rd shift) and as you stated didn't change my weight loss any that I > could tell. > > Making my way back to Durham for a clinic after two years was worth it > just to have this discussion with Dr. Rutledge. If diets and exercise > did not work prior to surgery, there is no reason to expect them to work > after surgery. Having said that, I still try to eat healthy and work out > as much as I can for all of the other benefits associated with a healthy > diet and regular exercise: reduced risk of heart disease, decreased risk > of cancer, less loss of bone mass, etc. I also take great satisfaction > from knowing that I am not gaining weight over time as I did steadily > prior to surgery. For me, this was never a cosmetic quest, so not losing > the last 25 pounds to " goal " is a lot less important than knowing that I > can play three sets of singles tennis now and feel good afterwards. > > Mike.... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Absolutely.... no guilt trip here! I am doing what I should have been doing all along - eating healthy and exercising. I believe it will get me to my goal. If it doesn't I'll deal with that then but in the meantime will have given it my all so to speak. Good luck on those last few pounds! RE: to Mike > > > > Rosemary wrote: > > I have felt so & *() guilty because > > I am still morbidly obese even though I have lost almost 90 pounds. I > > guess > > Dr. Rutledge gave me what he promised and that was a healthier body, > but > > one > > that will still be morbidly obese. (Can not afford a revision) I did > > walk 3 > > miles a day 4-5 times a week for about 2 months (before I started my > new > > job > > on 3rd shift) and as you stated didn't change my weight loss any that > I > > could tell. > > > > Making my way back to Durham for a clinic after two years was worth it > > just to have this discussion with Dr. Rutledge. If diets and exercise > > did not work prior to surgery, there is no reason to expect them to > work > > after surgery. Having said that, I still try to eat healthy and work > out > > as much as I can for all of the other benefits associated with a > healthy > > diet and regular exercise: reduced risk of heart disease, decreased > risk > > of cancer, less loss of bone mass, etc. I also take great satisfaction > > from knowing that I am not gaining weight over time as I did steadily > > prior to surgery. For me, this was never a cosmetic quest, so not > losing > > the last 25 pounds to " goal " is a lot less important than knowing that > I > > can play three sets of singles tennis now and feel good afterwards. > > > > Mike.... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 <<The reason dieting did not work for me I believe was in large part related to my appetite and my ability to hold huge quantities of food. I didn't always overeat but I did quite often obviously. I didn't exercise at all unfortunately! Now that I have a smaller stomach and can hold less food the overeating issue doesn't really come into play. I am able to stay within my points range on WW somewhat effortless (I do have to watch things or I do go over!) and therefore I believe that " dieting " will help me get to my goal. I am now exercising so that should also help. I agree that most of us dieted ourselves into the condition that we were in when we had surgery. However, " dieting " for me is no longer the horrible prospect that it once was. I don't even consider WW a diet - I consider it the program I am using to teach me how to eat in a nutritious " normal " way to allow me to live a long and healthy life. Just my two cents........ in GA>>> if I had gotten to your posts firsts, I could have just said DITTO.... what said.... LOL Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Hi Mike, thanks for this considered opinion. You are right-many have suffered more because of the long wait in diagnosis or surgery. This is helping with my decision. My son is only 11 but this has been going on for years. It took me nearly 8 years to even get a referral to an ENT....it really is scary that leaving it means it could infiltrate your brain. I only wish we knew for sure if he had a c-toma. Managing one's own "oozing ear" is one thing-managing the oozing ear of an active 11 year old boy is another....I guess he will adjust but it just tears my heart out to know that his life will forever change because of the surgery. I just pray that if we do it the damage (if any) is minimal and after effects small. Thanks for sharing your story! Denna Poulos From: Mike <dmatthew13@...>cholesteatoma Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:30:42 PMSubject: Re: who regrets having this surgery Hello there,I agree it can look like your son will have a lot of issues afterward. But it is different for every person...most of the people on here who talk about having so many issues afterward is because they took so long to get the cholesteatoma taken care of. I am 29 and had tons of problems when I was a kid and because of that I got a ctoma and had to get it taken out almost 2 months ago. I have a great surgeon so when he said it had to come out..I got it out. Now considering your son is so young..better to get it out then have problems down the road...remember the worst thing that can happen if not taken care of is death.....so when they say death..I say take it out. It can erode the bones that connect up to your brain..and that can cause death...no its highly unlikely...but why take that chance....my hearing is not as good in that ear...I cant taste all that well on that side of my mouth and my ear is still oozing a little...but I feel better knowing it wont kill me now.....just have it done cause the longer u wait...the more problems hell have afterward if not taking care of...good luck> > > From: supermom1@.. . <supermom1@. ..>> Subject: who regrets having this surgery> cholesteatoma> Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 1:33 PM> > > > > > > Hi everyone,> > I've been chatting with a few of you. No one seems immune from many problems after surgery-repeat surgeries, can't get water in ears, dizziness, funny tastes in mouth, balance issues, etc. And they seem to drag on for years, in some cases. Would you do this again? Do you ever wonder if this surgery was really necessary? Of course, NOT doing it means, as some have said, you live as a "ticking time bomb", but has anyone considered finding a way to disolve the growth, through diet or any other complementary means? There really has to be a better answer, don't you think? Has anyone asked their surgeon what the worse case scenario is, and I mean the worst, that could happen in the distant future if surgery is not done? These are important questions that I prefer to have answers to before I subject my 11 year old to this surgery with so many "after isues". Thanks for any of your thoughts in advance.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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