Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I am not sure if we have one of those stores but I am sure I can find out online. Oh to think that there could be a solution to the ever present threat of those horrible "blood shots". I have no idea where he got that name from, lol. Jane Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: Jane, have you used the Emla cream that you can get at any kid's drug store to numb his arm? We had great success with that until one time when the really, really stupid (and I am being nice) phlebotomist decided to put the needle in OUTSIDE the clearly marked red areas which were numb, so next time when we went for blood work, the same lab tech came and we sent her away with an explanation to the nurse manager about what she had done. The nurse manager was completely understanding and said she would take care of her. Anyway, they cannot feel anything when the bloodwork is taken and it makes things so much easier. Do you have a Kids and Cures pharmacy in your area? ----- Original Message ----- From: jane milota Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [ ]Jane M./was: Re: OT - it was paint that killed my dog The vet did keep on asking if we were sure Angel did not get into anything but hubby kept saying no because he didn't even consider the paint. This just adds to his guilt feelings. As far as chelation is concerned, we are on our way. i have had some problems getting back on the diet but we should be just about set. I have to get some bloodwork done - which I am dreading because every time we go to the doc tells me "no blood shots, right?" Jane PS: No, you did not stir up any feelings that was not already there. I still have some concerns about why an x-ray was not done, but it is by no means anything that I am going to do anything about - I am grieving enough as it is. Now I have to give the puppy a bath. She STINKS!!!!! Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: Thanks, hope I didn't stir up any additional painful thoughts with that question, but I couldn't get it out of my mind. Is weird that the vets didn't consider antifreeze poisoning as that happens to a LOT of dogs, unfortunately. So glad, although not for the dog, that this turned out the way it did. As far as the empathy is concerned, in my experience, chelation is the only way to get empathy. Empathic feelings are located in the same part of the brain said to be affected by mercury, so get the mercury out and the empathy will come. In my experience it is next to impossible to "teach" empathy and is akin to trying to explain the color red to a blind person. Empathy requires "theory of mind" something that is lacking in all ASD kids to one extent or another. Theory of mind, is easy to test, as some ASD kids can tell you by looking at a picture of someone with a frown on their face what they are thinking. But if you add another person and ask the child "what is this person thinking about what the frowning person is thinking" it will stump about 99% of ASD kids. Empathy is the ability to feel "as if" someone else, and to me, is the true test of telling whether an ASD child has lost their diagnosis. And there are some non ASD people that I have met, antisocial personalities, who also lack the capacity to feel "as if". In the case of the ASPD, there is no remediation as this is a function of their personality. Normally, the ASPD, had disruptions in or inadequate care or some kind of emotional trauma as a young child which causes them to not to develop empathic feelings. With ASD kids, it is simply a matter of mercury poisoning, which can be remediated, through chelation. So chelate, chelate and chelate some more. ----- Original Message ----- From: jane milota Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [ ]Jane M./was: Re: OT - it was paint that killed my dog Well that is exactly the question. Because we told the vet that had hit the dog they never did an x-ray or anything. They just went with the assumption that it was traumatic head injury. This still bothers me because I really think that they should have confirmed the injury. Personally I think they had already given up on the dog and was simply trying to make it as comfortable as possible until we could make the decision. The symptoms between head injury and chemical poisoning are pretty much the same with the convulsions being the biggest issue. There was no visible signs of a head injury on Angel. Jane Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote: Jane, Sorry, but when I thought about this yesterday at work, I had a question about what happened to your dog. How could the antifreeze have caused a massive head wound on the dog? Perhaps I am not understanding this, so forgive my confusion. ----- Original Message ----- From: Trish Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: [ ] Re: OT - it was paint that killed my dog Hi Jane, My dd (not Noah's mom), her husband and my grandaughter have a St. Bernard, an older german shepard-collie mix and an 8 month old boxer that they just got from the pound...can't believe that someone would give up such a beautiful well behaved dog! Anyway, the St. Bernard, Maya, is a very gentle, sweet albiet plus sized, young lady. The bad news is that she slobbers a lot!!! I do think that there are dry mouths, but you don't know if that will be the case if you get a puppy. The shedding isn't much worse than any other long haired dog. They keep the "kids" brushed, they vaccuum a lot and have a carpet cleaner at the ready. The outdoor clean-up is extensive. The end products coinside well with the size of each dog, if you know what I mean.... The good news is that Maya is very quiet and barks only when she feels the need. She is strong, compassionate and very loving. I don't know if by trait they are all this good, but she loves people and is well behaved around children. They are not for everybody, but there is no one dog that is! You might want to visit someone who has a St. Bernard, and spend some time with it. Talk to a St. Bernard Rescue person... ask why people give them up, and what attracts THEM to the breed. They are beautiful dogs and they definately make their presence known. If you have the space, A St. Bernard may be a good choice. Do some research and really talk it over as a family. I know how terrible you feel about losing your dog. You won't ever forget him, I know, but another pet will definately help you to move on as a family. Good luck to you in deciding on a breed.-Trish> Oh my gosh...that must be a relief. I bet you feel like someone just took a 2,000 pound weight off your chest! I know I would! I'm still very sorry about the loss of your dog, but it must be very comforting to know that your son did not cause your dog's demise. > > Best of luck with getting your new dog tomorrow!> > --Suzanne> > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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