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I had a c-toma removed with a graft to repair the remaining hole on

my eardrum, and was O.K.'d to fly just two weeks after surgery. I

was scared to death, because I always have had MUCH pain when I

fly. My ears just do not ever seem to clear (I can hold my nose and

blow until I am beet red, and the ears won't " pop " ). But the funny

thing was, after surgery, the c-toma ear finally " popped " on the

descent into Phoenix. But my " good " ear remained painful for a day

or two. Go figure...

Sandi ---

In cholesteatoma , Koznek <slucas234@y...>

wrote:

>

> I have that sound all the time CONSTANTLY (lucky me huh?) I

wondered, I am not sure if I do have a C-Toma but would it still be

alright for me to pop my ear if I'm not sure what it is in there???

I will find out on the 22nd.. but the way the other ENT's have made

it sound, I will need surgury- Also I wondered if anyone was told

not to fly after their surgury? My husband and I were going to see

his dad and his brother perform at an archery competition in Las

Vegas- but I wondered if I'd be able to fly afterward? I'm not even

sure of the date, but was anyone notified if they could or could not

fly???

> GTW9356@a... wrote:I hear that sound when my ears have fluid in

them. Try inflating your eardrum by pinching your nose and blowing

with your mouth shut.

>

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Hi Connie, good luck with your plane ride. I am way curiouse how it

goes. I hope you will do good. I am glad your coming along ok with

your surgery. I know the changes are a bite, you hang in there!

In cholesteatoma , " Connie and Hank Schwedes "

<conniedcj@y...> wrote:

> A week or so ago, Nick asked about flying limitations. My doc

cleared

> me today to fly 4 weeks post surgery. We fly for a vacation on Jan

> 2nd. He was slightly hesitant, but felt that it was okay. He wants

> me to be sure to pop my ears when I feel pressure. I told him I

could

> take an Amtrak (albiet on a 27 hour ride). But he felt it wasn't

too

> risky to fly.

>

> So, off I go . . .

>

> Connie

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:46:52 -0000, Laurie wrote:

>Ok, I can get a non-stop flight to LAX for $290. But for $35 more, I

>can fly into Bakersfield with a plane change in Houston. The

>monetary difference is minimal, however, I'm thinking about the

>discomfort on the return trip. II fly into and out of LAX, what kind

>of commute am I looking at from Delano or Bakersfield?

>

>Here are my options:

>

>Milwaukee to Bakersfield with a plane change in Houston, TX:

>First leg is about 3 or 3.5 hours on the plane, 45 minute plane

>change, 2.5 more hours on the plane.

>

>Milwaukee to LAX with a commute to Delano/Bakersfield:

>Commute of ??? to airport and then 4 hours non-stop on the plane.

>Which would you choose???

>

Lauire,

Take the flight to Bakersfield. You will more than make up the lost time

just in the commute from LAX to Bakersfield. Unless you land very late at

night or early in the morning, you are looking at a three to four hour road

trip through some of the worst traffic in CA. I know, I used to drive for

the airport bus service out of Bakersfield to LAX. Even in my personal

car, the best time I was ever able to do between the two points was two

hours at 2AM. (We can drive from Sacramento to Delano in less time and

that's a 250 mile trip as opposed to 135 from LAX.)

Our son used to live in Long Beach. We dreaded having to drive through the

LA area to visit. It usually took us as long or longer to get from Magic

Mountain (north end of the LA area) to Long Beach as it did to get from

Sacramento to Magic Mountain, about 325 miles. The last 90 miles were a

real drag.

From Meadows Field in Bakersfield, it's less than 30 minutes to Delano,

about 25 miles.

If you need more info on the local area, let me know. We lived there for

over 10 years, after moving from Spring Green, WI. Marta, Pat, and a

couple others on the list are also good sources for Bakersfield info.

Jerry

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:46:52 -0000, Laurie wrote:

>Ok, I can get a non-stop flight to LAX for $290. But for $35 more, I

>can fly into Bakersfield with a plane change in Houston. The

>monetary difference is minimal, however, I'm thinking about the

>discomfort on the return trip. II fly into and out of LAX, what kind

>of commute am I looking at from Delano or Bakersfield?

>

>Here are my options:

>

>Milwaukee to Bakersfield with a plane change in Houston, TX:

>First leg is about 3 or 3.5 hours on the plane, 45 minute plane

>change, 2.5 more hours on the plane.

>

>Milwaukee to LAX with a commute to Delano/Bakersfield:

>Commute of ??? to airport and then 4 hours non-stop on the plane.

>Which would you choose???

>

Lauire,

Take the flight to Bakersfield. You will more than make up the lost time

just in the commute from LAX to Bakersfield. Unless you land very late at

night or early in the morning, you are looking at a three to four hour road

trip through some of the worst traffic in CA. I know, I used to drive for

the airport bus service out of Bakersfield to LAX. Even in my personal

car, the best time I was ever able to do between the two points was two

hours at 2AM. (We can drive from Sacramento to Delano in less time and

that's a 250 mile trip as opposed to 135 from LAX.)

Our son used to live in Long Beach. We dreaded having to drive through the

LA area to visit. It usually took us as long or longer to get from Magic

Mountain (north end of the LA area) to Long Beach as it did to get from

Sacramento to Magic Mountain, about 325 miles. The last 90 miles were a

real drag.

From Meadows Field in Bakersfield, it's less than 30 minutes to Delano,

about 25 miles.

If you need more info on the local area, let me know. We lived there for

over 10 years, after moving from Spring Green, WI. Marta, Pat, and a

couple others on the list are also good sources for Bakersfield info.

Jerry

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In a message dated 1/28/2004 5:11:58 PM Central Standard Time,

hevnbound1@... writes:

Milwaukee to LAX with a commute to Delano/Bakersfield:

Commute of ??? to airport and then 4 hours non-stop on the plane.

Which would you choose???

Hugs,

Laurie

Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

From a been there and done that, I liked having a chance to get up and move

around in between flights. I had around an hour in denver...enough to drink a

little soup...take care of bathroom needs, and just walk around. I was also

very afraid of post op clots. I had about an hr and 45 min ride from LA to

Bakersfield(and vice versa). I would take the trip into Bakersfield if the money

was

there. The drive to Delano from bakersfield is (what Marta...? 30 min max?)

Also the La airport is huge and I was post op with a lot of walking to get to

and from the plane. I'm sure the Bfld airport is smaller, not as much walk time

.. Of course when you get there the limo is at the door where you get the

luggage, but when you get there to go home the check in is a LONG way from the

planes(or it was on frontier)

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 1/28/2004 5:11:58 PM Central Standard Time,

hevnbound1@... writes:

Milwaukee to LAX with a commute to Delano/Bakersfield:

Commute of ??? to airport and then 4 hours non-stop on the plane.

Which would you choose???

Hugs,

Laurie

Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

From a been there and done that, I liked having a chance to get up and move

around in between flights. I had around an hour in denver...enough to drink a

little soup...take care of bathroom needs, and just walk around. I was also

very afraid of post op clots. I had about an hr and 45 min ride from LA to

Bakersfield(and vice versa). I would take the trip into Bakersfield if the money

was

there. The drive to Delano from bakersfield is (what Marta...? 30 min max?)

Also the La airport is huge and I was post op with a lot of walking to get to

and from the plane. I'm sure the Bfld airport is smaller, not as much walk time

.. Of course when you get there the limo is at the door where you get the

luggage, but when you get there to go home the check in is a LONG way from the

planes(or it was on frontier)

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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Kim,

How many times are you going to Delano? You already went for a pre-

op visit? When is your surgery? I thought you were the one on the

revision list who is having surgery July 19.

I am flying in on Wednesday and tentatively home on a Thursday. I am

allowing for 14 days after surgery...7 in hospital and 7 in the

hotel. Praying I won't get delayed!!

I think both flights have their benefits. The one with a transfer

has a benefit of not getting lost in LA and going directly to

Bakersfield. Which means I will have a chance to get out of the

plane and use the bathroom and walk a bit. The other one, of

course, has the benefit of only a 4 hour travel time so I will be

less tired. Of course, that doesn't include the drive back to

LAX.

Right now, I'm thinking I like the one into Bakersfield better.

However, I have never flown 2 weeks after surgery and don't know how

I will be feeling after such a major revision. I was uncomfortable

sitting in a car for any length of time that soon after my previous

surgeries.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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Kim,

How many times are you going to Delano? You already went for a pre-

op visit? When is your surgery? I thought you were the one on the

revision list who is having surgery July 19.

I am flying in on Wednesday and tentatively home on a Thursday. I am

allowing for 14 days after surgery...7 in hospital and 7 in the

hotel. Praying I won't get delayed!!

I think both flights have their benefits. The one with a transfer

has a benefit of not getting lost in LA and going directly to

Bakersfield. Which means I will have a chance to get out of the

plane and use the bathroom and walk a bit. The other one, of

course, has the benefit of only a 4 hour travel time so I will be

less tired. Of course, that doesn't include the drive back to

LAX.

Right now, I'm thinking I like the one into Bakersfield better.

However, I have never flown 2 weeks after surgery and don't know how

I will be feeling after such a major revision. I was uncomfortable

sitting in a car for any length of time that soon after my previous

surgeries.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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>

>

> Take the flight to Bakersfield. You will more than make up the

lost time

> just in the commute from LAX to Bakersfield.

Thanks...again....Jerry. That's what I was hoping to hear. ly,

I'd LOVE to see LA, but driving there, alone, my first time there,

scares the H**L out of me. See, I can't even type it!! lol

Hey Jim...how far is your house from Bakersfield and also Delano? I

can't remember what you said. I'm still keeping your offer in the

back of my mind for the time BEFORE surgery.

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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>

> Take the flight to Bakersfield. You will more than make up the

lost time

> just in the commute from LAX to Bakersfield.

Thanks...again....Jerry. That's what I was hoping to hear. ly,

I'd LOVE to see LA, but driving there, alone, my first time there,

scares the H**L out of me. See, I can't even type it!! lol

Hey Jim...how far is your house from Bakersfield and also Delano? I

can't remember what you said. I'm still keeping your offer in the

back of my mind for the time BEFORE surgery.

Hugs,

Laurie

DS Revision 8/12/04

197 days to go!!!

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In a message dated 1/28/2004 5:58:50 PM Central Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

would recommend driving from LAX to Delano/Bakersfield area in the day - it

can be a little scary at night - as it is through some mountain area - and if

you aren't used to it - some areas look desolate... my sister got a little

frightened driving it alone at night (but she hates driving alone) anyway I'm

flying in March for 240 pp - from Houston - got it on Orbitz.com -

Honey, That's what the bariatric limo is for! I'd have hated to drive into or

out of La at any time of day or night. Let them take you to delano or

bakersfield to the car rental place there. Anything to help make things easier.

Besides lots of leg room. Oh, BTW if you get car sick....the limo can be rough

at

night because he flew with us....LOL. I have never been so car sick in my life.

Post op and car sick.....you don't want it. And make sure you have some

mylanta or pepto with you...I had acid and couldn't get to mine and when I got

sick

it helped when the little old lady next to me gave me some riopan. (Bless her

heart!) The poor co pilot came back and thought I was sick from the

plane...kept appologizing and saying they were steady as they could....I said

No, No,

you don't understand. I'm not airsick I'm car sick!

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 1/28/2004 5:58:50 PM Central Standard Time,

megafone910@... writes:

would recommend driving from LAX to Delano/Bakersfield area in the day - it

can be a little scary at night - as it is through some mountain area - and if

you aren't used to it - some areas look desolate... my sister got a little

frightened driving it alone at night (but she hates driving alone) anyway I'm

flying in March for 240 pp - from Houston - got it on Orbitz.com -

Honey, That's what the bariatric limo is for! I'd have hated to drive into or

out of La at any time of day or night. Let them take you to delano or

bakersfield to the car rental place there. Anything to help make things easier.

Besides lots of leg room. Oh, BTW if you get car sick....the limo can be rough

at

night because he flew with us....LOL. I have never been so car sick in my life.

Post op and car sick.....you don't want it. And make sure you have some

mylanta or pepto with you...I had acid and couldn't get to mine and when I got

sick

it helped when the little old lady next to me gave me some riopan. (Bless her

heart!) The poor co pilot came back and thought I was sick from the

plane...kept appologizing and saying they were steady as they could....I said

No, No,

you don't understand. I'm not airsick I'm car sick!

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:39:03 -0000, Laurie wrote:

>

>Hey Jim...how far is your house from Bakersfield and also Delano? I

>can't remember what you said. I'm still keeping your offer in the

>back of my mind for the time BEFORE surgery.

>

Laurie,

Jim lives in Paso Robles, about a 2 to 2.5 hour drive west of both

Bakersfield and Delano. It's almost all two lane highway but you get to

see the tree where Jimmie Dean crashed all those years ago, if you're a

Jimmie Dean fan. ;-))

Jerry

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:39:03 -0000, Laurie wrote:

>

>Hey Jim...how far is your house from Bakersfield and also Delano? I

>can't remember what you said. I'm still keeping your offer in the

>back of my mind for the time BEFORE surgery.

>

Laurie,

Jim lives in Paso Robles, about a 2 to 2.5 hour drive west of both

Bakersfield and Delano. It's almost all two lane highway but you get to

see the tree where Jimmie Dean crashed all those years ago, if you're a

Jimmie Dean fan. ;-))

Jerry

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LOL How fast do you drive Jerry? I can make it to Delano in just over 90

minutes. The offer still stand, Laurie. But do NOT bring lutefisk with you!

LOL

_____

From: and Jerry Lamb [mailto:sujerlam@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:02 PM

; Laurie

Subject: Re: Re: Flying after surgery

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:39:03 -0000, Laurie wrote:

>

>Hey Jim...how far is your house from Bakersfield and also Delano? I

>can't remember what you said. I'm still keeping your offer in the

>back of my mind for the time BEFORE surgery.

>

Laurie,

Jim lives in Paso Robles, about a 2 to 2.5 hour drive west of both

Bakersfield and Delano. It's almost all two lane highway but you get to

see the tree where Jimmie Dean crashed all those years ago, if you're a

Jimmie Dean fan. ;-))

Jerry

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LOL How fast do you drive Jerry? I can make it to Delano in just over 90

minutes. The offer still stand, Laurie. But do NOT bring lutefisk with you!

LOL

_____

From: and Jerry Lamb [mailto:sujerlam@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:02 PM

; Laurie

Subject: Re: Re: Flying after surgery

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:39:03 -0000, Laurie wrote:

>

>Hey Jim...how far is your house from Bakersfield and also Delano? I

>can't remember what you said. I'm still keeping your offer in the

>back of my mind for the time BEFORE surgery.

>

Laurie,

Jim lives in Paso Robles, about a 2 to 2.5 hour drive west of both

Bakersfield and Delano. It's almost all two lane highway but you get to

see the tree where Jimmie Dean crashed all those years ago, if you're a

Jimmie Dean fan. ;-))

Jerry

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Also, Jimmy Dean didn't die at the tree. He died about a mile up the road.

And it was the old road, not the one that is used today. Most people don't

know about that. :-) But some of us smart asses never forget trivia we've

learned along the roadside. The memorial is at that tree because it " was a

nicer spot and won't effect traffic. " To quote the people who were

responsible for erecting the monument - the big money man behind the

monument is/was a Japanese businessman who was completely enamored by Dean.

_____

From: and Jerry Lamb [mailto:sujerlam@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:02 PM

; Laurie

Subject: Re: Re: Flying after surgery

It's almost all two lane highway but you get to

see the tree where Jimmie Dean crashed all those years ago, if you're a

Jimmie Dean fan. ;-))

Jerry

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Also, Jimmy Dean didn't die at the tree. He died about a mile up the road.

And it was the old road, not the one that is used today. Most people don't

know about that. :-) But some of us smart asses never forget trivia we've

learned along the roadside. The memorial is at that tree because it " was a

nicer spot and won't effect traffic. " To quote the people who were

responsible for erecting the monument - the big money man behind the

monument is/was a Japanese businessman who was completely enamored by Dean.

_____

From: and Jerry Lamb [mailto:sujerlam@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:02 PM

; Laurie

Subject: Re: Re: Flying after surgery

It's almost all two lane highway but you get to

see the tree where Jimmie Dean crashed all those years ago, if you're a

Jimmie Dean fan. ;-))

Jerry

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Marta, Marta, Marta...yes.. " effects " cause " affects " . . . .. . " Effect "

means what it will do, " Affect " is what an " effect " caused. :-)

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From: Marta S. [mailto:mjs93311@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: Flying after surgery

" ...and won't effect traffic. "

Huh, Jim, huh? EFFECT traffic???!!!

Marta

slapping Jim across the hand with her ruler...

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:18:04 EST, MDL1031@... wrote:

>I'm sure the Bfld airport is smaller, not as much walk time

>. Of course when you get there the limo is at the door where you get the

>luggage, but when you get there to go home the check in is a LONG way from the

>planes(or it was on frontier)

If you can walk the loop at DMRC, you can get to and from the gates at BFL

at least twice, if not three times and still not go as far as once around

the loop. Of course, I'm talking about the terminal and gates, not the

runway. BFL's main runway is long enough to qualify as an emergency

landing site for the space shuttle!! However, I wouldn't want to be working

the noise complaint phones after that. LOL

The check-in counters are less than 50 feet from the drive and the baggage

pick-up is right next to the drive in front of the terminal.

Jerry

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:00:06 -0800, Jim wrote:

>Also, Jimmy Dean didn't die at the tree. He died about a mile up the road.

Jim, now that you mention it, I seem to recall the crash was near the

current intersection of 46 and 41, just over a mile to the east of the

marker. I think the owners of that little store appreciate the current

location, though. LOL

Jerry

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:00:06 -0800, Jim wrote:

>Also, Jimmy Dean didn't die at the tree. He died about a mile up the road.

Jim, now that you mention it, I seem to recall the crash was near the

current intersection of 46 and 41, just over a mile to the east of the

marker. I think the owners of that little store appreciate the current

location, though. LOL

Jerry

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:54:14 -0800, Jim wrote:

>LOL How fast do you drive Jerry? I can make it to Delano in just over 90

>minutes.

Jim..

I usually go the CHP limit as opposed to the posted limit. However, every

time I came across 46 I either ran into the fog or a drilling rig being

hauled down the middle of the road or some farmer pulling a hay wagon.

Tends to slow things down a bit, sort of like a DSer who is " backed up. "

LOL

Jerry

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