Re: Roxanna/was:Broken Collar Bone

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In a message dated 5/17/2006 9:05:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ladyshrink111@... writes:

In my view ASD is a result of metal and viral/immune issues, we need all the ideas we can get.

I can't be 100% certain, but as for me, not into just seeing what I am doing, but learning from all parents who are safely trying to do what we can to maximize our childrens' potential.

Did you mean "abilify"?

ROFL, yes "abilify." The sleep med does not always work so well and we are having a bad week - up late and I'm exhausted. <G> So I let my fingers type without my brain sometimes.

I have always felt autism stemmed more from genetics overall. But then, I have two boys with it. I am sure my own father would be dx'd with it as a child if there had been a dx back then. Sometimes I feel my family is dripping in shades of autism. lol. I have two quirky brothers as well. I used to just call it "dysfunctional" growing up - who knew I would be the "normal" one in the family? <GG> yikes.

Most of my friends are into the vaccine issues though. Many do diet and vitamin type therapies. We just never found that the way to go but I figure if it helps people to do that and it doesn't hurt the kid, then that's great. We did ABA with my younger ds and had great success with it. I also do ABA now with a little 4 yo guy who has autism. We finally got into meds when my older ds was a little 3 yo who never slept - NEVER. He was up and wandering all night for days and nights at a time from the age of 13 months on. We had to have something to get him to sleep on a more normal schedule. And so we finally did that at age 4. And it worked! And we got to sleep which is, I tell you, a really good thing! <g> We did try the melatonin with my younger ds for a good while but it eventually stopped helping and even then, it only helped 40% of the time. Now with clonidine, the odd have improved to 85% helpful. But this week is part of the 15% unhelpful. ugh.

I know it is a shame that people take "sides" in all this when we are all in the same boat in the end. I had a terrible argument with a good friend last week over "methodology" when I never even cared what methodology she was using. If she was happy, then I was happy. No problems. But she felt differently - hers had to be RIGHT and BETTER than what we did. And it went south from there. I really hate that and it makes me sad.

Roxanna ô¿öAutism Happens

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In a message dated 5/17/2006 11:04:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, rmaher1969@... writes:

Sorry to hear about your friendship being on the rocks. We have to learn to agree to disagree, we can't afford to alienate one another based on diffs of opinion. Hell, you guys are my only social outlet. If you're not harming your child and you do voo-doo dances....I say GO FOR IT! Whatever works, we're all going by the seat of our pants most days, right?!

LOL, I wanna voo-doo dance. Maybe we could organize one some day. LOL. Yeah, would be nice if we had more clues to autism and less arguing about it.

Roxanna ô¿ôDon't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.

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<<I know it is a shame that people take "sides" in all this when we are all in the same boat in the end. I had a terrible argument with a good friend last week over "methodology" when I never even cared what methodology she was using. If she was happy, then I was happy. No problems. But she felt differently - hers had to be RIGHT and BETTER than what we did. And it went south from there. I really hate that and it makes me sad. >>

Sorry to butt into the conversation...BUT I will..lol. I have to admit, I used to be one of those guerilla parents who shook my head at parents who had their kids on meds. Mostly b/c of some experiences I had in the past with a relative who had her son on meds (no dx) L-O-N-G story; Anyhow, that shaded my view of meds. Also, I believe that Big Pharma has done this to our children and the thought of them cashing in with their "Autism drugs" Makes my blood boil! BUT, I no longer think meds as an absolute no-no anymore. It may be necessary for our son one day.

Sorry to hear about your friendship being on the rocks. We have to learn to agree to disagree, we can't afford to alienate one another based on diffs of opinion. Hell, you guys are my only social outlet. If you're not harming your child and you do voo-doo dances....I say GO FOR IT! Whatever works, we're all going by the seat of our pants most days, right?!

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In a message dated 5/17/2006 9:05:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ladyshrink111@... writes:

In my view ASD is a result of metal and viral/immune issues, we need all the ideas we can get.

I can't be 100% certain, but as for me, not into just seeing what I am doing, but learning from all parents who are safely trying to do what we can to maximize our childrens' potential.

Did you mean "abilify"?

ROFL, yes "abilify." The sleep med does not always work so well and we are having a bad week - up late and I'm exhausted. <G> So I let my fingers type without my brain sometimes.

I have always felt autism stemmed more from genetics overall. But then, I have two boys with it. I am sure my own father would be dx'd with it as a child if there had been a dx back then. Sometimes I feel my family is dripping in shades of autism. lol. I have two quirky brothers as well. I used to just call it "dysfunctional" growing up - who knew I would be the "normal" one in the family? <GG> yikes.

Most of my friends are into the vaccine issues though. Many do diet and vitamin type therapies. We just never found that the way to go but I figure if it helps people to do that and it doesn't hurt the kid, then that's great. We did ABA with my younger ds and had great success with it. I also do ABA now with a little 4 yo guy who has autism. We finally got into meds when my older ds was a little 3 yo who never slept - NEVER. He was up and wandering all night for days and nights at a time from the age of 13 months on. We had to have something to get him to sleep on a more normal schedule. And so we finally did that at age 4. And it worked! And we got to sleep which is, I tell you, a really good thing! <g> We did try the melatonin with my younger ds for a good while but it eventually stopped helping and even then, it only helped 40% of the time. Now with clonidine, the odd have improved to 85% helpful. But this week is part of the 15% unhelpful. ugh.

I know it is a shame that people take "sides" in all this when we are all in the same boat in the end. I had a terrible argument with a good friend last week over "methodology" when I never even cared what methodology she was using. If she was happy, then I was happy. No problems. But she felt differently - hers had to be RIGHT and BETTER than what we did. And it went south from there. I really hate that and it makes me sad.

Roxanna ô¿öAutism Happens