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Go see a Otoliogist, not a ENT. Let us know where you live and someone should be able to point you to one...

Tom Hansen

From: Deb <meirp@...>cholesteatoma Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:41:54 PMSubject: recurrence after CWD

My daugter (28 y.o.) had a CWD several years ago - after many attempts to control c-toma. Things have been going well until recently when she developed dizziness. Saw ENT yesterday and he feels like the c-toma has regrown in the scar tissue!! We are awaiting CT scan results. Anyone with similar experience? Am very concerned about what might be going on and long term effects.

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Her physician is an Otolaryngologist and Neurotologist - used ENT as generic term.

recurrence after CWD

My daugter (28 y.o.) had a CWD several years ago - after many attempts

to control c-toma. Things have been going well until recently when she

developed dizziness. Saw ENT yesterday and he feels like the c-toma has

regrown in the scar tissue!! We are awaiting CT scan results. Anyone

with similar experience? Am very concerned about what might be going on

and long term effects.

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I've never experienced this. I have a good friend that did not have

cholesteatoma, but the crystals in her inner ear clumped together. She

was basically incapacitated until the therapy they did on her worked. I

hope that the doc gets to the bottom of this soon for her. Dizzyness

isn't fun.

Matt

meirp@... wrote:

>

> Her physician is an Otolaryngologist and Neurotologist - used ENT as

> generic term.

>

>

> * recurrence after CWD

>

> My daugter (28 y.o.) had a CWD several years ago - after many attempts

> to control c-toma. Things have been going well until recently when she

> developed dizziness. Saw ENT yesterday and he feels like the c-toma has

> regrown in the scar tissue!! We are awaiting CT scan results. Anyone

> with similar experience? Am very concerned about what might be going on

> and long term effects.

>

>

>

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I am a little confused about “ENT”. I was

always under the impression that meant, Ears, Nose & Throat. I see a

Neuro Otologist. He deals with the Ears and with skull based

surgeries. I previously saw an ENT who referred me to an Otologist.

Where I live near Omaha, Nebraska, an ENT is Ears, Nose and

Throat DR., an Otologist is a higher level of expertise, just dealing

with the Ears.

I will have to ask my Dr when I see him next Friday. Tom

Hansen, another member of this group see’s my Dr’s brother, who is

also an Olologist.

I checked on the Internet and they show they same thing as I was

told.

Ingrid

From:cholesteatoma

[mailto:cholesteatoma ] On Behalf Of meirp@...

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:15 PM

cholesteatoma

Subject: Re: recurrence after CWD

Her physician is an Otolaryngologist and

Neurotologist - used ENT as generic term.

recurrence after CWD

My daugter (28 y.o.) had a CWD

several years ago - after many attempts

to control c-toma. Things have been going well until recently when she

developed dizziness. Saw ENT yesterday and he feels like the c-toma has

regrown in the scar tissue!! We are awaiting CT scan results. Anyone

with similar experience? Am very concerned about what might be going on

and long term effects.

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A Otoligist is a ENT that ONLY works on ears. It is considered a Board approved Speciality for ENT's. It's my understanding that you have to have been a ENT to become a Otoligist.

Tom Hansen

From: Ingrid Jannetta <ing@...>cholesteatoma Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:27:44 AMSubject: RE: recurrence after CWD

I am a little confused about “ENTâ€. I was always under the impression that meant, Ears, Nose & Throat. I see a Neuro Otologist. He deals with the Ears and with skull based surgeries. I previously saw an ENT who referred me to an Otologist.

Where I live near Omaha, Nebraska, an ENT is Ears, Nose and Throat DR., an Otologist is a higher level of expertise, just dealing with the Ears.

I will have to ask my Dr when I see him next Friday. Tom Hansen, another member of this group see’s my Dr’s brother, who is also an Olologist.

I checked on the Internet and they show they same thing as I was told.

Ingrid

From:cholesteatoma [mailto:cholesteato magroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of meirp@...Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:15 PMcholesteatomaSubject: Re: recurrence after CWD

Her physician is an Otolaryngologist and Neurotologist - used ENT as generic term. recurrence after CWD

My daugter (28 y.o.) had a CWD several years ago - after many attempts to control c-toma. Things have been going well until recently when she developed dizziness. Saw ENT yesterday and he feels like the c-toma has regrown in the scar tissue!! We are awaiting CT scan results. Anyone with similar experience? Am very concerned about what might be going on and long term effects.

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Ingrid,

From some well reputed medical dictionaries:

neurotology

A branch of otology concerned with those parts of the nervous system

related to the ear, especially the inner ear and associated brainstem

structures. Also called otoneurology.

neurotology. (2006). In Mosby's Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing, &

Health Professions. Philadelphia, PA: Elsevier Health Sciences.

Retrieved February 20, 2009, from

http://www.credoreference.com/entry/6682742/.

Otology

Otology is that branch of medical science which is concerned with

disorders and diseases of the organ of hearing – one practising this

branch being called an otologist.

Otology. (2006). In Black's Medical Dictionary, 41st Edition. London:

A & C Black. Retrieved February 20, 2009, from http://www.credoref

So, neurotologists have a step higher degree of specialization that just

happens to be of importance to those of us that deal with cholesteatoma.

There are simply some pretty important nerves in the vicinity that

doctors have to contend with. With all of this in mind, my doctor is a

neurotologist as well. If there any issues that crop of with nerves in

any surgery I undergo, I want that kind of surgeon at the ready.

Matt

Ingrid Jannetta wrote:

>

> I am a little confused about “ENT”. I was always under the impression

> that meant, Ears, Nose & Throat. I see a Neuro Otologist. He deals

> with the Ears and with skull based surgeries. I previously saw an ENT

> who referred me to an Otologist.

>

> Where I live near Omaha, Nebraska, an ENT is Ears, Nose and Throat

> DR., an Otologist is a higher level of expertise, just dealing with

> the Ears.

>

> I will have to ask my Dr when I see him next Friday. Tom Hansen,

> another member of this group see’s my Dr’s brother, who is also an

> Olologist.

>

> I checked on the Internet and they show they same thing as I was told.

>

> Ingrid

>

> *From:*cholesteatoma

> [mailto:cholesteatoma ] *On Behalf Of *meirp@...

> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:15 PM

> *To:* cholesteatoma

> *Subject:* Re: recurrence after CWD

>

> Her physician is an Otolaryngologist and Neurotologist - used ENT as

> generic term.

>

>

> * recurrence after CWD

>

> My daugter (28 y.o.) had a CWD several years ago - after many attempts

> to control c-toma. Things have been going well until recently when she

> developed dizziness. Saw ENT yesterday and he feels like the c-toma has

> regrown in the scar tissue!! We are awaiting CT scan results. Anyone

> with similar experience? Am very concerned about what might be going on

> and long term effects.

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get

> the Radio Toolbar

> <http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown00000035>!

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I agree with you 100%. I just had surgery on Tuesday dealing with my facial

nerve. The Doctor that I had many years ago did not specialize in the nerve

and that is when my facial nerves became an issue.

Do you know what other nerves can be affected but Ctoma's? Except for the

facial nerve I don't seem to be able to find more specific information. I

was still out of it when my Dr told me after surgery that he was still

concerned about my facial nerve. I see him next Friday and knowing him he

will repeat everything to me again. I am just so relieved that the buzzing

in my left ear is down 50% and that the twitching in my left eye and mouth

has stopped. I don't know for how long, but I will take what I can get.

Thanks

Ingrid

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The taste nerve is another one that frequently comes into play. Sorry I

don't have a more scientific term for it at the moment ... that would be

a reference question to tackle ... but I'll bet someone on the list

actually knows the term.

Matt

Ingrid Jannetta wrote:

>

> I agree with you 100%. I just had surgery on Tuesday dealing with my

> facial

> nerve. The Doctor that I had many years ago did not specialize in the

> nerve

> and that is when my facial nerves became an issue.

>

> Do you know what other nerves can be affected but Ctoma's? Except for the

> facial nerve I don't seem to be able to find more specific information. I

> was still out of it when my Dr told me after surgery that he was still

> concerned about my facial nerve. I see him next Friday and knowing him he

> will repeat everything to me again. I am just so relieved that the buzzing

> in my left ear is down 50% and that the twitching in my left eye and mouth

> has stopped. I don't know for how long, but I will take what I can get.

>

> Thanks

> Ingrid

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: cholesteatoma

> <mailto:cholesteatoma%40>

> [mailto:cholesteatoma

> <mailto:cholesteatoma%40>]

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The taste nerve is called the chorda tympani- it is a branch of the facial nerve and runs forward across the middle ear to eventually supply taste to the anterior 2/3rds of the tongue on that side. I believe there was a thread recently on taste disturbance on this site. With best wishesMr WareingConsultant ENT SurgeonSt Bartholomews HospitalThe Royal London HospitalThe London Clinic145 Harley StreetLondon W1G 6BJ020 7935 1304From:

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Pictures attached to give idea about the Chorda Tympani- Taste nerve at risk in ear srugery

Arun

On 2/21/09, Arun Gupta <drarunjind@...> wrote:

Taste nerve is Chorda Tympani.

Arun

On 2/20/09,

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Thank you for the pictures, it gives me a better perspective of

nerves.

I have 9-10 surgeries for Ctoma’s and Prosthetics in the

past 6 years. My first Dr removed a Ctoma and 6 months later placed a

Prosthetic on top of a new Ctoma that he did not see. I was in a lot of

pain and kept thinking that something was moving in my ear. After 6

months of being told everything was normal I went to see the Dr I have now. One

side of the implant was loose and that was what I was hearing, beesides

the fact that the prosthestic was sitting on top of the Ctoma.

Every time a Dr has put a Titanium Prosthetic in my middle ear,

within 6 months I have a Ctoma? Any clue to this? I have

problems wearing any type of metal because it seems like my skin is so acidic

it eats through the metal. This has happened with Stainless Steel, Silver,

Gold, etc. I only wear my wedding ring when my husband and I go out

someplace.

The last surgery before this one Tuesday was 2 years ago.

The Dr built somewhat of a Prosthetic out of my own cartilage. He also put ventilation

tubes in both ears. I lasted 2 years with this prosthetic. As least I had

some hearing and was able to wear a hearing aid.

6 months ago I had new ear moulds made for my Hearing aids.

They have a rubber base that goes furthest into the ear. They

changed moulds to improve my hearing with the hearing aids. Since I made

that change I have noticed that my ear canal always seemed damp. I would

take my hearing aids out a couple times a day and make sure that I dried out the

tube and mould of my hearing aids. Of course when I would go to see the

Dr the ear would be dry.

This surgery I did not have Ctoma but the implant had dissolved

and was sitting in a blob at the top of my ear canal? Could the tubes have

stopped me from getting Ctoma? Were the moulds holding too much moisture

in the ear?

I guess after the rest of my surgeries being Somewhat par for

the course with Ctoma, I am really confused by this one?

I have a million more questions but don’t want to overload

anyone. I see my DR on Friday and I always bring him the responses I get

from people in this group. He is always interested.

Any information definitely appreciated

Ingrid

From: cholesteatoma

[mailto:cholesteatoma ] On Behalf Of Arun Gupta

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:32 AM

cholesteatoma

Subject: Re: recurrence after CWD

Pictures attached to give idea about the Chorda Tympani-

Taste nerve at risk in ear srugery

Arun

On 2/21/09, Arun Gupta <drarunjind@...> wrote:

Taste nerve is Chorda Tympani.

Arun

On 2/20/09,

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Hi Kazzy,

I am going to talk to my Dr & Audiologist about this on

Friday. Thanks for the information and anything else you think of I am open

too.

Ingrid

From:

cholesteatoma [mailto:cholesteatoma ] On

Behalf Of Kazzy

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:14 AM

cholesteatoma

Subject: RE: recurrence after CWD

Hi Ingrid

I wore air conducting hearing aids for

years, putting up with the constant wetness of my ears caused by (if not

encouraged by) the mould of the hearing aids. On top of this, I had

infections and perforations galore – again, probably encouraged by the hearing

aids. In the end, I was offered (and opted for) BAHA surgery and to this

day, I don’t regret it. I don’t have wet ears any more, I can hear

(though it’s a different type of hearing) and I enjoy much better health with

far fewer ear infections and perforations than previously.

I have a suggestion though, before you

even begin to think of the BAHA (if you are that way inclined):

I was offered and wore skeleton-type

moulds with my hearing aids and, for some time, they helped. This type of

mould has far less plastic sitting in the ear and can help those who have a

reaction to the material being in the ear. Have you considered this type

of mould? Is it possible you could enquire about it? It allows more

air into the ear and thereby may allow your ears to be that little bit

drier. Just a thought... hope it helps.

Kazzy J

From:

cholesteatoma [mailto:cholesteatoma ] On

Behalf Of Ingrid Jannetta

Sent: 21 February 2009 14:33

cholesteatoma

Subject: RE: recurrence after CWD

Thank you for the pictures, it gives me

a better perspective of nerves.

I have 9-10 surgeries for Ctoma’s and

Prosthetics in the past 6 years. My first Dr removed a Ctoma and 6 months

later placed a Prosthetic on top of a new Ctoma that he did not see. I

was in a lot of pain and kept thinking that something was moving in my

ear. After 6 months of being told everything was normal I went to see the

Dr I have now. One side of the implant was loose and that was what I was

hearing, beesides the fact that the prosthestic was sitting on top of the Ctoma.

Every time a Dr has put a Titanium

Prosthetic in my middle ear, within 6 months I have a Ctoma? Any

clue to this? I have problems wearing any type of metal because it seems

like my skin is so acidic it eats through the metal. This has happened with

Stainless Steel, Silver, Gold, etc. I only wear my wedding ring when my

husband and I go out someplace.

The last surgery before this one Tuesday

was 2 years ago. The Dr built somewhat of a Prosthetic out of my own

cartilage. He also put ventilation tubes in both ears. I lasted 2 years with

this prosthetic. As least I had some hearing and was able to wear a

hearing aid.

6 months ago I had new ear moulds made

for my Hearing aids. They have a rubber base that goes furthest

into the ear. They changed moulds to improve my hearing with the hearing

aids. Since I made that change I have noticed that my ear canal always

seemed damp. I would take my hearing aids out a couple times a day and

make sure that I dried out the tube and mould of my hearing aids.

Of course when I would go to see the Dr the ear would be dry.

This surgery I did not have Ctoma but

the implant had dissolved and was sitting in a blob at the top of my ear

canal? Could the tubes have stopped me from getting Ctoma? Were the

moulds holding too much moisture in the ear?

I guess after the rest of my surgeries

being Somewhat par for the course with Ctoma, I am really confused by this one?

I have a million more questions but

don’t want to overload anyone. I see my DR on Friday and I always bring

him the responses I get from people in this group. He is always

interested.

Any information definitely appreciated

Ingrid

From:

cholesteatoma [mailto:cholesteatoma ] On

Behalf Of Arun Gupta

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:32 AM

cholesteatoma

Subject: Re: recurrence after CWD

Pictures

attached to give idea about the Chorda Tympani- Taste nerve at risk in ear

srugery

Arun

On 2/21/09, Arun Gupta <drarunjind@...> wrote:

Taste

nerve is Chorda Tympani.

Arun

On 2/20/09,

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