Guest guest Posted November 20, 2004 Report Share Posted November 20, 2004 HELLO EVERYONE I WENT AND SAW THE DR ON THE 17 HE SCHEDULED MY SURGERY FOR JAN 25 HE SAID IT WAS A SIMPLE PROCEDURE IT LASTED ABOUT 2 AND A HALF HOURS I WOULD BE OFF WORK ABOUT 3 DAYS HE SAID HE WOULD DO THE BEHIND THE EAR SURGERY HE TOLD ME TO QUIT TAKING THE CIPRODEX THAT MY EAR LOOKED PRETTY GOOD BUT TO CONTINUE THE VINEGAR WATER IRRIGATION. I HAVE TO GO DO THE HEARING TEST ON THE 5 OF JANUARY. HE SEEMED PRETTY CONFIDENT THE LADY WHO BOOKED ME FOR THE SURGERY SAID HE WAS GOOD THAT PEOPLE CAME FROM ALLOVER TO SEE HIM. HE TOLD ME THAT THE C TOMA HAD BEEN THERE 2 YEARS THAT IT WOULDNT HURT TO WAIT TILL THE 25 OF JAN SO IT MUST NOT BE TO BAD HE LOOOKED AT MY CT WHILE I WAS THERE. SO THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD NEWS TO ME. I AM SO GLAD THERE IS SOMEWHERE TO GO TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW IT IS SCARY WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS DISEASE AND YOU HAVE NO ONE TO TALK TO. YOU GUYS HAVE HELPED ME TRENDMENDOUSLY ON THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE INFO AND ESPECIALLY THE EXPERIENCES YOU GUYS HAVE HAD. THANK YOU ALL I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Bobby and others, The medical industrial complex, drug industrial complex and insurance industrial complexes etc. * are thriving in the U.S. (and world) - taking blood money from gullible, ignorant Americans (aka a subspecies of homo sapiens - gullibillus ignoramus americanus) - and at the same time possibly causing serious and/or long term side effects in the unsuspecting, trusting patients. The side effects I speak of are those listed in the manufacturers literature (not just the druggists') and also in the toxic combinations that result when numerous dangerous drugs are taken together during a 24 hour period. I experienced similar episode in my former PCP's office. I also wrote about my experience here and other venues while it happened. I then went on to two other PCP's one a pulmonary specialist and experienced another serious set of circumstances with prescriptions of several different expensive, exotic drugs. I firmly believe that if I'd followed their instructions and continued taking all of the prescriptions - I'd have serious medical problems today (approx. 5 years later). The symptoms I had at the time are no longer with me. I can only hope that the many prescriptions I trustingly ingested and inhaled won't have long term effects or come back to haunt me later on. The symptoms started shortly after I went through a PFT (pulmonary function test) in my former PCP's group's office building. Contact me if you're ever scheduled for a PFT. * I could go on with the "complex" list but I'll just settle for 'nuff said for now (think of your own complexes there are many) Be well, , , C. bcc conservationists My Dr visit Hey all, I went to the doctor this morning for a routine TSH test and renewal of thyroid prescription. Nothing else.The doctor tried to get me to take a cholesterol test, and I respectfully declined. He was surprised by this.Then He tried to get me to do a whole bunch of bloodwork and proceedures with absolutely no health complaints. I declined. He then stated that he was legally obligated to offer them to me.I left the physicians office with a sick feeling that I was being upsold, and asked to spend my money for no other purpose than to cover the physician's butt.My view of the Primary care physician's medical world is now 45% sales and marketing, 45% cover the doctor's liability, and 10% of the visit is concerning my health.Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Bobby, It is my understanding that doctors don't even order the correct thyroid test and thus prescribe a thyroid drug that doesn't really help as it should. The people on the IODINE list say that ARMOUR is a better thyroid med to take than what is being prescribed by most doctors today. But you are right to decline whatever tests you don't want. Doctors can't force you. phine > > Hey all, > > I went to the doctor this morning for a routine TSH test and renewal of > thyroid prescription. Nothing else. > > The doctor tried to get me to take a cholesterol test, and I > respectfully declined. He was surprised by this. > > Then He tried to get me to do a whole bunch of bloodwork and > proceedures with absolutely no health complaints. I declined. He then > stated that he was legally obligated to offer them to me. > > I left the physicians office with a sick feeling that I was being > upsold, and asked to spend my money for no other purpose than to cover > the physician's butt. > > My view of the Primary care physician's medical world is now 45% sales > and marketing, 45% cover the doctor's liability, and 10% of the visit > is concerning my health. > > Bobby > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Bobby, It is my understanding that doctors don't even order the correct thyroid test and thus prescribe a thyroid drug that doesn't really help as it should. The people on the IODINE list say that ARMOUR is a better thyroid med to take than what is being prescribed by most doctors today. But you are right to decline whatever tests you don't want. Doctors can't force you. phine > > Hey all, > > I went to the doctor this morning for a routine TSH test and renewal of > thyroid prescription. Nothing else. > > The doctor tried to get me to take a cholesterol test, and I > respectfully declined. He was surprised by this. > > Then He tried to get me to do a whole bunch of bloodwork and > proceedures with absolutely no health complaints. I declined. He then > stated that he was legally obligated to offer them to me. > > I left the physicians office with a sick feeling that I was being > upsold, and asked to spend my money for no other purpose than to cover > the physician's butt. > > My view of the Primary care physician's medical world is now 45% sales > and marketing, 45% cover the doctor's liability, and 10% of the visit > is concerning my health. > > Bobby > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Hi, Bobby. I think moet people on any Thyroid list will agree that the TSH test is almost worthless to tell how the thyroid is doing. The tests you need to run are Free T3 and Free T4. T3 is the harmone that the body runs on, and you should be close to the upper limit. In my case I run over the max. limit, but my doctor evaluates on numbers and the way the patient feels. I also agree that Armour Thyroid is much better than Synthroid. Synthroid is a synthetic T4 harmone and Armour contains all the Thyroid harmones. I think you are in Tyler, TX, and there is a great Texas Thyroid list. It can give you wonderful information about the thyroid. Go here : Thyroid Treatment/ and join. The thyroid is a very important gland, and most doctord do not understand it. They worship the TSH test because it is simple. Good luck, Gene At 12:44 PM 2/20/2009, you wrote: Hey all, I went to the doctor this morning for a routine TSH test and renewal of thyroid prescription. Nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Wow!, Well said . I got a great laugh from the " gullibillus ignoramus americanus " species. I have to write that one down. Bobby > > Bobby and others, > > The medical industrial complex, drug industrial complex and insurance industrial complexes etc. * are thriving in the U.S. (and world) - taking blood money from gullible, ignorant Americans (aka a subspecies of homo sapiens - gullibillus ignoramus americanus) - and at the same time possibly causing serious and/or long term side effects in the unsuspecting, trusting patients. The side effects I speak of are those listed in the manufacturers literature (not just the druggists') and also in the toxic combinations that result when numerous dangerous drugs are taken together during a 24 hour period. > > I experienced similar episode in my former PCP's office. I also wrote about my experience here and other venues while it happened. I then went on to two other PCP's one a pulmonary specialist and experienced another serious set of circumstances with prescriptions of several different expensive, exotic drugs. > > I firmly believe that if I'd followed their instructions and continued taking all of the prescriptions - I'd have serious medical problems today (approx. 5 years later). The symptoms I had at the time are no longer with me. I can only hope that the many prescriptions I trustingly ingested and inhaled won't have long term effects or come back to haunt me later on. > The symptoms started shortly after I went through a PFT (pulmonary function test) in my former PCP's group's office building. Contact me if you're ever scheduled for a PFT. > > * I could go on with the " complex " list but I'll just settle for 'nuff said for now (think of your own complexes there are many) > > Be well, > , , C. > bcc conservationists > > > My Dr visit > > > Hey all, > > I went to the doctor this morning for a routine TSH test and renewal of > thyroid prescription. Nothing else. > > The doctor tried to get me to take a cholesterol test, and I > respectfully declined. He was surprised by this. > > Then He tried to get me to do a whole bunch of bloodwork and > proceedures with absolutely no health complaints. I declined. He then > stated that he was legally obligated to offer them to me. > > I left the physicians office with a sick feeling that I was being > upsold, and asked to spend my money for no other purpose than to cover > the physician's butt. > > My view of the Primary care physician's medical world is now 45% sales > and marketing, 45% cover the doctor's liability, and 10% of the visit > is concerning my health. > > Bobby > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 phine, Your understanding about thyroid tests is correct. Many physicians simply order the TSH, which by itself is pretty much meaningless, although an elevated TSH would flag a problem, its possible to have thyroid issues with normal TSH. More doctors now order the Free T4 thyroid test, but most of the time the Free T3 gets completely ignored. Yet this is the active thyroid hormone, and has the biggest impact on lipid metabolism. A tiny change in T3 has huge changes in blood lipids, and the medical community just doesn't want to talk about it. Lipid metabolism is not a subject that big pharma wants to discuss as it would hurt statin profits if everybody knew. Bobby > > > > Hey all, > > > > I went to the doctor this morning for a routine TSH test and renewal of > > thyroid prescription. Nothing else. > > > > The doctor tried to get me to take a cholesterol test, and I > > respectfully declined. He was surprised by this. > > > > Then He tried to get me to do a whole bunch of bloodwork and > > proceedures with absolutely no health complaints. I declined. He then > > stated that he was legally obligated to offer them to me. > > > > I left the physicians office with a sick feeling that I was being > > upsold, and asked to spend my money for no other purpose than to cover > > the physician's butt. > > > > My view of the Primary care physician's medical world is now 45% sales > > and marketing, 45% cover the doctor's liability, and 10% of the visit > > is concerning my health. > > > > Bobby > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Thanks Gene, I book marked that site to join up. Appreciate it very much. Bobby > >Hey all, > > > >I went to the doctor this morning for a routine TSH test and renewal of > >thyroid prescription. Nothing else. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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