Re: Toxicity, glutathione, whey products, weight gain - Ken

[Guest guest]

Sieverling wrote:

> At his three-hour seminar here last May, Cheney commented that his

> sickest patients were usually the thin ones. He speculates that

> weight gain is in part a protective measure. If the body cannot get

> rid of toxins, the least dangerous place to put them is in fatty

> tissue. Once the fatty tissue is filled, then the toxins end up in

> organs and the brain.

>

>

> Carol,

> This does make sense to me. My body has stubbornly kept gaining

> weight no matter how little I eat. Whenever I take supplements that

> are supposed to *flush* or mobiliize fat, etc, I become very dizzy and

> ill ( L Carntine, Choline, etc.) This would explain my situation,

> which I have suspected for years. I can only take 1/3 pack immunocal

> w/o getting fevers, sore throat and glands so I back off. Don't know

> how I'm ever going to manage to get my body flushed out without

> becoming very ill!

>

> Thanks for the info. Marcia

[Guest guest]

Hi, I experienced similar symptoms, which improved when I was given thyroid

meds, especially the excesive sleep. I gained " only " 30 lbs. Some time after

taking thyroid meds I stopped hormones given by my gyn. and lost about 8

lbs. Now I cannot lose but do not gain anymore.

Stania

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Od: Zazzue <Zazzue@...>

Komu: Marcia Grahn <onelist>

Datum: 29. listopadu 1999 5:24

Pøedmìt: Toxicity, glutathione, whey products, weight

gain - Ken

>From: Zazzue <Zazzue@...>

>

>Could this be why I gained 100 lbs when I got sick, even though I was

>eating nothing much more than rice cakes and coffee or diet soda? I

>had a bout of the worst flu I could ever imagine....my periods started

>going wacko and I started gaining weight. I didn't feel sick for

>about 4 months and then I had to move. I started to sleep almost 20

>hours a day and it felt like I was drugged. I keep gaining weight and

>feeling drugged for the next 9 months or so. I have no idea how I

>functioned, but I did. I've lost weight when I wasn't stressed and

>gained it when I was. How do I get rid of the stress?

>

>Zazzue

>

>http://www.CreativeAddiction.com

>mailto:Zazzue@...

>

>

>

>> Sieverling wrote:

>

>>> At his three-hour seminar here last May, Cheney commented that his

>>> sickest patients were usually the thin ones. He speculates that

>>> weight gain is in part a protective measure. If the body cannot get

>>> rid of toxins, the least dangerous place to put them is in fatty

>>> tissue. Once the fatty tissue is filled, then the toxins end up in

>>> organs and the brain.

>>>

>>>

>>> Carol,

>>> This does make sense to me. My body has stubbornly kept gaining

>>> weight no matter how little I eat. Whenever I take supplements that

>>> are supposed to *flush* or mobiliize fat, etc, I become very dizzy and

>>> ill ( L Carntine, Choline, etc.) This would explain my situation,

>>> which I have suspected for years. I can only take 1/3 pack immunocal

>>> w/o getting fevers, sore throat and glands so I back off. Don't know

>>> how I'm ever going to manage to get my body flushed out without

>>> becoming very ill!

>>>

>>> Thanks for the info. Marcia

>

>> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Carol

You said your BTA showed the level of toxicity improved. I've had a few

BTA's performed and am not familar with that term. To which value are

you referring?

Phil

Sieverling wrote:

> Ken, in response to my post on hydroxycobalamin B-12 (post #6, digest

> #462) you asked " What is the ORIGIN of the detox problem? " , and you

> mentioned the toxic byproducts of mycoplasma. You also had a great

> comment, " Fighting the toxins is good, but attacking the origin is

> better. " I don't have the whole answer on this, but I suspect that our

> glutathione deficiency is a major culprit. Glutathione is a major

> player both in our detox pathway - getting toxins out of our body -

> and in our antiviral/antibacterial mechanisms. Without glutathione we

> become toxic because we can't get rid of even ordinary metabolic waste

> products, not to mention pollutants from the environment. Without

> enough glutathione we cannot keep viruses dormant, nor deal with viral

> and other intracellular critters. That's why there's so much

> excitement in some quarters about the undenatured whey products. They

> enable the body to naturally restore it's glutathione, which restores

> the detox pathways and restores antiviral/antimicrobial mechanisms. My

> level of toxicity, measured on the BTA (Biological Terrain Assessment)

> was significantly improved for the first time in three years after

> using Immunocal. In fact when the dose is too high I crash because my

> body is mobilizing toxins faster that it can handle them. After using

> the whey products some patients have tested negative for mycoplasma,

> HHV6 and chlamydia pneumonia, and they were positive before

> treatment. At his three-hour seminar here last May, Cheney commented

> that his sickest patients were usually the thin ones. He speculates

> that weight gain is in part a protective measure. If the body cannot

> get rid of toxins, the least dangerous place to put them is in fatty

> tissue. Once the fatty tissue is filled, then the toxins end up in

> organs and the brain. This was kind of scattered, but I hope it's

> helpful.. Take care. Carol