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I had my cholesteatoma for seven years before it was removed. I didn't

really have all that many problems for the first few years. I got

infections here and there growing up but they took care of it with

drops and I had tubes a few times and it wasn't really that big of a

deal. But, because they waited seven years to really look for the root

cause of all of my problems I lost just about all of the hearing in my

ear. So, dealing with it early seems to be the best move from my

experience. The longer you let it go the worse the end result seems to

be, you know?

>

> I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it cleaned

> and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to no

> hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional infection

> that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the health

> field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My ENT is

> somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my

> viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I will

> need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i foolish for

> waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be better

> off being more proactive and getting the surgery now? Anyone's

> feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Rex

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I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it cleaned and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to no hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional infection that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the health field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My ENT is somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I will need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i foolish for waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be better off being more proactive and getting the surgery now? Anyone's feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Rex

I'm not entirely clear what your describing. If the ctoma is in your middle ear then drops would only be useful if applied directly to it ie. through a perforated eardrum. A perforation in itself would constitute some hearing loss and generally be a risk for further infection. At any rate the drops may help to limit an infection in the ctoma but the ctoma itself will carry on growing ( the infection makes the ctoma more effective at causing damage through erosion).

The problem you face is that ctoma tends to be a slow disease. You may carry on for years without it causing any significant problems. But you never know when it might reach a critical stage and major debilitating symptoms develop - that would be things like face paralysis, balance loss and possibly worse. That can happen in a very short space of time and some of those symptoms then be irreversible. In other words you are walking around with an ear that is unsafe and I think you'll find that everyone will tell you it is not worth the risk. It's always better to get ctoma dealt with sooner rather than later. The ctoma won't go away without surgical intervention.

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> I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it

cleaned

> and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to no

> hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional

infection

> that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the health

> field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My ENT

is

> somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my

> viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I will

> need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i foolish for

> waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be better

> off being more proactive and getting the surgery now? Anyone's

> feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Hi Rex

>

> I'm not entirely clear what your describing. If the ctoma is in

your middle ear then drops would only be useful if applied directly

to it ie. through a perforated eardrum. A perforation in itself

would constitute some hearing loss and generally be a risk for

further infection. At any rate the drops may help to limit an

infection in the ctoma but the ctoma itself will carry on growing (

the infection makes the ctoma more effective at causing damage

through erosion).

>

> The problem you face is that ctoma tends to be a slow disease. You

may carry on for years without it causing any significant problems.

But you never know when it might reach a critical stage and major

debilitating symptoms develop - that would be things like face

paralysis, balance loss and possibly worse. That can happen in a

very short space of time and some of those symptoms then be

irreversible. In other words you are walking around with an ear that

is unsafe and I think you'll find that everyone will tell you it is

not worth the risk. It's always better to get ctoma dealt with

sooner rather than later. The ctoma won't go away without surgical

intervention.

>

> Phil

>

> Thanks for the reply Phil- The drops are used to control and

prevent infection. yes i believe the C-toma is in the middle ear.

My biggest hangup is that surgery doesn't always give the greatest

outcomes and again my symptoms are minimal at this point. However

after reading many accounts- it does look like surgery is the

recommended choice sooner than later. Basically a better choice

among 2 bad options. I just hate the idea of surgery but it sounds

like I better get used to it. Rex

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Rex:

the b-baller from KY?????

Another piece of advice that most on this board will agree with is

that you should visit an otologist (ENT who specializes in ears) for

a second opinion and if you need the operation, let an otologist do

it rather than an ENT. An ENT might do a few c-toma surgeries per

year, while an otologist may do 100+ If you scroll through the last

100 messages or so on this board, there have been links posted that

will help you find an otologist nearby.

Consensus opinion from people here....surgery is the only cure and

waiting does you no good....but clearly your treatment options needs

to come from the doc.

Good luck, Mark

> >

> > I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it

> cleaned

> > and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to no

> > hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional

> infection

> > that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the

health

> > field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My ENT

> is

> > somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my

> > viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I

will

> > need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i foolish

for

> > waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be

better

> > off being more proactive and getting the surgery now? Anyone's

> > feedback would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Hi Rex

> >

> > I'm not entirely clear what your describing. If the ctoma is in

> your middle ear then drops would only be useful if applied directly

> to it ie. through a perforated eardrum. A perforation in itself

> would constitute some hearing loss and generally be a risk for

> further infection. At any rate the drops may help to limit an

> infection in the ctoma but the ctoma itself will carry on growing (

> the infection makes the ctoma more effective at causing damage

> through erosion).

> >

> > The problem you face is that ctoma tends to be a slow disease.

You

> may carry on for years without it causing any significant problems.

> But you never know when it might reach a critical stage and major

> debilitating symptoms develop - that would be things like face

> paralysis, balance loss and possibly worse. That can happen in a

> very short space of time and some of those symptoms then be

> irreversible. In other words you are walking around with an ear

that

> is unsafe and I think you'll find that everyone will tell you it is

> not worth the risk. It's always better to get ctoma dealt with

> sooner rather than later. The ctoma won't go away without surgical

> intervention.

> >

> > Phil

> >

> > Thanks for the reply Phil- The drops are used to control and

> prevent infection. yes i believe the C-toma is in the middle ear.

> My biggest hangup is that surgery doesn't always give the greatest

> outcomes and again my symptoms are minimal at this point. However

> after reading many accounts- it does look like surgery is the

> recommended choice sooner than later. Basically a better choice

> among 2 bad options. I just hate the idea of surgery but it sounds

> like I better get used to it. Rex

> >

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Hi Rex,

I think that you should definitely have surgery, especially since

you have no current problems right now. If you wait, the three

bones in your middle ear will eventually be destroyed and you will

lose most of the hearing in that ear. The best time to have the

cholesteatoma removed is before anything happens. After the bones

are gone, then you will have to have many surgeries to restore your

hearing and you may have to wear a hearing aid. So, I would suggest

that you have surgery immediately. You may want to consider a new

doctor too, since this one doesn't seem too concerned. Any good

doctor would want the cholesteatoma removed immediately if they

cared about your hearing.

Also, I would not worry about the surgery. If the cholesteatoma is

small, then the surgery should go smoothly. They will probably be

able to perform it through the canal and remove it without

disturbing your ear that much. I think the only reason people have

poor results with surgery is if they have a large cholesteatoma in

their ear; one that has caused significant damage.

Anyway, I hope that you do decide to have surgery. I wish I did

earlier, because now I have basically no hearing left in my left

ear.

Good luck!

Millie

>

>

> > >

> > > I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it

> > cleaned

> > > and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to no

> > > hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional

> > infection

> > > that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the

> health

> > > field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My

ENT

> > is

> > > somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my

> > > viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I

> will

> > > need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i foolish

> for

> > > waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be

> better

> > > off being more proactive and getting the surgery now? Anyone's

> > > feedback would be greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Hi Rex

> > >

> > > I'm not entirely clear what your describing. If the ctoma is

in

> > your middle ear then drops would only be useful if applied

directly

> > to it ie. through a perforated eardrum. A perforation in itself

> > would constitute some hearing loss and generally be a risk for

> > further infection. At any rate the drops may help to limit an

> > infection in the ctoma but the ctoma itself will carry on

growing (

> > the infection makes the ctoma more effective at causing damage

> > through erosion).

> > >

> > > The problem you face is that ctoma tends to be a slow disease.

> You

> > may carry on for years without it causing any significant

problems.

> > But you never know when it might reach a critical stage and

major

> > debilitating symptoms develop - that would be things like face

> > paralysis, balance loss and possibly worse. That can happen in a

> > very short space of time and some of those symptoms then be

> > irreversible. In other words you are walking around with an ear

> that

> > is unsafe and I think you'll find that everyone will tell you it

is

> > not worth the risk. It's always better to get ctoma dealt with

> > sooner rather than later. The ctoma won't go away without

surgical

> > intervention.

> > >

> > > Phil

> > >

> > > Thanks for the reply Phil- The drops are used to control and

> > prevent infection. yes i believe the C-toma is in the middle

ear.

> > My biggest hangup is that surgery doesn't always give the

greatest

> > outcomes and again my symptoms are minimal at this point.

However

> > after reading many accounts- it does look like surgery is the

> > recommended choice sooner than later. Basically a better choice

> > among 2 bad options. I just hate the idea of surgery but it

sounds

> > like I better get used to it. Rex

> > >

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> > > > I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it

> > > cleaned

> > > > and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to

no

> > > > hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional

> > > infection

> > > > that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the

> > health

> > > > field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My

> ENT

> > > is

> > > > somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my

> > > > viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I

> > will

> > > > need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i

foolish

> > for

> > > > waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be

> > better

> > > > off being more proactive and getting the surgery now?

Anyone's

> > > > feedback would be greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Rex

> > > >

> > > > I'm not entirely clear what your describing. If the ctoma is

> in

> > > your middle ear then drops would only be useful if applied

> directly

> > > to it ie. through a perforated eardrum. A perforation in itself

> > > would constitute some hearing loss and generally be a risk for

> > > further infection. At any rate the drops may help to limit an

> > > infection in the ctoma but the ctoma itself will carry on

> growing (

> > > the infection makes the ctoma more effective at causing damage

> > > through erosion).

> > > >

> > > > The problem you face is that ctoma tends to be a slow

disease.

> > You

> > > may carry on for years without it causing any significant

> problems.

> > > But you never know when it might reach a critical stage and

> major

> > > debilitating symptoms develop - that would be things like face

> > > paralysis, balance loss and possibly worse. That can happen in

a

> > > very short space of time and some of those symptoms then be

> > > irreversible. In other words you are walking around with an ear

> > that

> > > is unsafe and I think you'll find that everyone will tell you

it

> is

> > > not worth the risk. It's always better to get ctoma dealt with

> > > sooner rather than later. The ctoma won't go away without

> surgical

> > > intervention.

> > > >

> > > > Phil

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the reply Phil- The drops are used to control and

> > > prevent infection. yes i believe the C-toma is in the middle

> ear.

> > > My biggest hangup is that surgery doesn't always give the

> greatest

> > > outcomes and again my symptoms are minimal at this point.

> However

> > > after reading many accounts- it does look like surgery is the

> > > recommended choice sooner than later. Basically a better

choice

> > > among 2 bad options. I just hate the idea of surgery but it

> sounds

> > > like I better get used to it. Rex

> > > >

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> Date:

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> > > >

> > >

> >

>

Hi

As a mother of a daughter recently diagnosed and who has been seeing

an ENT surgeon for the last 2 years ( at a NHS Hospital). I must

stress if a consultant says go for surgery it is for one reason only

your benefit. (Don't forget it costs the NHS money so they don't say

you an op if you don't)- well thats my view from past experiences!!!

My daughter has been left for 2 years only receiving clean up

operations for recurrent infections. And only for seeking a private

(costly) second opinion, have we have found out that she should

infact (accorinding to the new surgeon's opinion) have had surgery

sometime ago, which have saved her hearing (at the current time she

has lost 70%. On the camera pics the consultant took her ear inside

is pure black (rotten)and the eardrum half collasped,as yet I have to

find photos that match its extent and worried when the consultant

asked my permission to show them to his students, as this was the

worse case he had seen. Don't worry I will be seeking Legal Advice

against the NHS hospital involved -but at the moment my concern is

that the new consultant can save her hearing (as he hopes he can -

his words) So please DO NOT IGNORE a consultants advice unless your

are 100% sure and I speak as a mother here. As a mother i am going

through the (I am her mother and i have failed her stage)

yours

Kerry

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Millie-

thanks for the input. After hearing from a number of people and

reading all the posts on this site- I have definetly changed my

mind. I see a new ENT next week and want to move forward with the

surgery.

Take Care

Rex

> >

> > Hi Rex,

> >

> > I think that you should definitely have surgery, especially

since

> > you have no current problems right now. If you wait, the three

> > bones in your middle ear will eventually be destroyed and you

will

> > lose most of the hearing in that ear. The best time to have the

> > cholesteatoma removed is before anything happens. After the

bones

> > are gone, then you will have to have many surgeries to restore

your

> > hearing and you may have to wear a hearing aid. So, I would

> suggest

> > that you have surgery immediately. You may want to consider a

new

> > doctor too, since this one doesn't seem too concerned. Any good

> > doctor would want the cholesteatoma removed immediately if they

> > cared about your hearing.

> >

> > Also, I would not worry about the surgery. If the cholesteatoma

is

> > small, then the surgery should go smoothly. They will probably

be

> > able to perform it through the canal and remove it without

> > disturbing your ear that much. I think the only reason people

have

> > poor results with surgery is if they have a large cholesteatoma

in

> > their ear; one that has caused significant damage.

> >

> > Anyway, I hope that you do decide to have surgery. I wish I did

> > earlier, because now I have basically no hearing left in my left

> > ear.

> >

> > Good luck!

> >

> > Millie

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting

it

> > > > cleaned

> > > > > and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal

to

> no

> > > > > hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an

occasional

> > > > infection

> > > > > that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in

the

> > > health

> > > > > field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head.

My

> > ENT

> > > > is

> > > > > somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects

my

> > > > > viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but

when I

> > > will

> > > > > need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i

> foolish

> > > for

> > > > > waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I

be

> > > better

> > > > > off being more proactive and getting the surgery now?

> Anyone's

> > > > > feedback would be greatly appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Rex

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm not entirely clear what your describing. If the ctoma

is

> > in

> > > > your middle ear then drops would only be useful if applied

> > directly

> > > > to it ie. through a perforated eardrum. A perforation in

itself

> > > > would constitute some hearing loss and generally be a risk

for

> > > > further infection. At any rate the drops may help to limit

an

> > > > infection in the ctoma but the ctoma itself will carry on

> > growing (

> > > > the infection makes the ctoma more effective at causing

damage

> > > > through erosion).

> > > > >

> > > > > The problem you face is that ctoma tends to be a slow

> disease.

> > > You

> > > > may carry on for years without it causing any significant

> > problems.

> > > > But you never know when it might reach a critical stage and

> > major

> > > > debilitating symptoms develop - that would be things like

face

> > > > paralysis, balance loss and possibly worse. That can happen

in

> a

> > > > very short space of time and some of those symptoms then be

> > > > irreversible. In other words you are walking around with an

ear

> > > that

> > > > is unsafe and I think you'll find that everyone will tell

you

> it

> > is

> > > > not worth the risk. It's always better to get ctoma dealt

with

> > > > sooner rather than later. The ctoma won't go away without

> > surgical

> > > > intervention.

> > > > >

> > > > > Phil

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the reply Phil- The drops are used to control

and

> > > > prevent infection. yes i believe the C-toma is in the

middle

> > ear.

> > > > My biggest hangup is that surgery doesn't always give the

> > greatest

> > > > outcomes and again my symptoms are minimal at this point.

> > However

> > > > after reading many accounts- it does look like surgery is

the

> > > > recommended choice sooner than later. Basically a better

> choice

> > > > among 2 bad options. I just hate the idea of surgery but it

> > sounds

> > > > like I better get used to it. Rex

> > > > >

> > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.

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> > Date:

> > > > 28/12/06

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

> Hi

>

> As a mother of a daughter recently diagnosed and who has been

seeing

> an ENT surgeon for the last 2 years ( at a NHS Hospital). I must

> stress if a consultant says go for surgery it is for one reason

only

> your benefit. (Don't forget it costs the NHS money so they don't

say

> you an op if you don't)- well thats my view from past

experiences!!!

>

> My daughter has been left for 2 years only receiving clean up

> operations for recurrent infections. And only for seeking a

private

> (costly) second opinion, have we have found out that she should

> infact (accorinding to the new surgeon's opinion) have had surgery

> sometime ago, which have saved her hearing (at the current time

she

> has lost 70%. On the camera pics the consultant took her ear

inside

> is pure black (rotten)and the eardrum half collasped,as yet I have

to

> find photos that match its extent and worried when the consultant

> asked my permission to show them to his students, as this was the

> worse case he had seen. Don't worry I will be seeking Legal

Advice

> against the NHS hospital involved -but at the moment my concern is

> that the new consultant can save her hearing (as he hopes he can -

> his words) So please DO NOT IGNORE a consultants advice unless

your

> are 100% sure and I speak as a mother here. As a mother i am

going

> through the (I am her mother and i have failed her stage)

>

> yours

>

> Kerry

>

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Get the Surgery Done......Didn't you used to play guard for the Phoenix Suns.......but seriously.......I had a cholesteatoma in my left ear for 4 years....was just like you...put it off....used drops....had drainage....constant headaches....went on a flight to Florida...got back...ended up getting transverse myelitis....couldn't even walk for about 3 months....the infection is chronic and can spread to your brain and spinal fluid........Do NOT PUT IT OFF ANY LONGER!! I had my surgery last March and things are finally getting to be half way normal again....i can't hear out of that ear....they removed the 3 bones of hearing....but they had all been eroded away anyway....there is a reconstructive surgery...ahead...but i'm putting that off....been through too much lately.rexchapman38 <rexchapman38@...> wrote: Millie-thanks for the input. After hearing from a number of people and reading all the posts on this site- I have definetly changed my mind. I see a new ENT next week and want to move forward with the surgery.Take Care Rex> >> > Hi Rex,> > > > I think that you should definitely have surgery, especially since > > you have no current problems right now. If you wait, the three > > bones in your middle ear will eventually be destroyed and you will > > lose most of the hearing in that ear. The best time to have the > > cholesteatoma removed is before

anything happens. After the bones > > are gone, then you will have to have many surgeries to restore your > > hearing and you may have to wear a hearing aid. So, I would > suggest > > that you have surgery immediately. You may want to consider a new > > doctor too, since this one doesn't seem too concerned. Any good > > doctor would want the cholesteatoma removed immediately if they > > cared about your hearing. > > > > Also, I would not worry about the surgery. If the cholesteatoma is > > small, then the surgery should go smoothly. They will probably be > > able to perform it through the canal and remove it without > > disturbing your ear that much. I think the only reason people have > > poor results with surgery is if they have a large cholesteatoma in > > their ear; one that has caused significant

damage.> > > > Anyway, I hope that you do decide to have surgery. I wish I did > > earlier, because now I have basically no hearing left in my left > > ear. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Millie> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it > > > > cleaned > > > > > and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to > no > > > >

> hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional > > > > infection > > > > > that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the > > > health > > > > > field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My > > ENT > > > > is > > > > > somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my > > > > > viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I > > > will > > > > > need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i > foolish > > > for > > > > > waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be > > > better > > > > > off being more proactive and getting the surgery now? > Anyone's > > > > > feedback would be greatly

appreciated.> > > > > > > > > > Hi Rex> > > > > > > > > > I'm not entirely clear what your describing. If the ctoma is > > in > > > > your middle ear then drops would only be useful if applied > > directly > > > > to it ie. through a perforated eardrum. A perforation in itself > > > > would constitute some hearing loss and generally be a risk for > > > > further infection. At any rate the drops may help to limit an > > > > infection in the ctoma but the ctoma itself will carry on > > growing ( > > > > the infection makes the ctoma more effective at causing damage > > > > through erosion).> > > > > > > > > > The problem you face is that ctoma tends to be a slow > disease. > > > You

> > > > may carry on for years without it causing any significant > > problems. > > > > But you never know when it might reach a critical stage and > > major > > > > debilitating symptoms develop - that would be things like face > > > > paralysis, balance loss and possibly worse. That can happen in > a > > > > very short space of time and some of those symptoms then be > > > > irreversible. In other words you are walking around with an ear > > > that > > > > is unsafe and I think you'll find that everyone will tell you > it > > is > > > > not worth the risk. It's always better to get ctoma dealt with > > > > sooner rather than later. The ctoma won't go away without > > surgical > > > > intervention.> > > > >

> > > > > Phil> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Phil- The drops are used to control and > > > > prevent infection. yes i believe the C-toma is in the middle > > ear. > > > > My biggest hangup is that surgery doesn't always give the > > greatest > > > > outcomes and again my symptoms are minimal at this point. > > However > > > > after reading many accounts- it does look like surgery is the > > > > recommended choice sooner than later. Basically a better > choice > > > > among 2 bad options. I just hate the idea of surgery but it > > sounds > > > > like I better get used to it. Rex> > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.>

> > > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.28/606 - Release > > Date: > > > > 28/12/06> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > Hi> > As a mother of a daughter recently diagnosed and who has been seeing > an ENT surgeon for the last 2 years ( at a NHS Hospital). I must > stress if a consultant says go for surgery it is for one reason only > your benefit. (Don't forget it costs the NHS money so they don't say > you an op if you don't)- well thats my view from past experiences!!!> > My daughter has been left for 2 years only receiving clean up > operations for recurrent infections. And only for seeking a private > (costly) second opinion, have we have found out that she should > infact (accorinding to the new surgeon's opinion) have had surgery > sometime

ago, which have saved her hearing (at the current time she > has lost 70%. On the camera pics the consultant took her ear inside > is pure black (rotten)and the eardrum half collasped,as yet I have to > find photos that match its extent and worried when the consultant > asked my permission to show them to his students, as this was the > worse case he had seen. Don't worry I will be seeking Legal Advice > against the NHS hospital involved -but at the moment my concern is > that the new consultant can save her hearing (as he hopes he can - > his words) So please DO NOT IGNORE a consultants advice unless your > are 100% sure and I speak as a mother here. As a mother i am going > through the (I am her mother and i have failed her stage)> > yours> > Kerry> __________________________________________________

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Get the surgery now. It can take a long time for the growth to get bad

and may not manifest many symptoms. Once it is bad it can destroy the

bones in your middle ear, cause facial paralysis and even (in rare

cases) spread to the brain. I have had surgery on my left ear and am

having a second surgery in a month. My doc has also found a c-toma in

my right ear which will be operated on after the left. The sooner the

surgery is done the better. It is easier to get all of it out when it

is smaller and you stand a much better chance of limiting the amount

reconstruction needed.

The surgery sucks, but is worth it when you get to keep your hearing.

>

> I have had a C-toma for about 4 years. I have been getting it cleaned

> and using drops with fairly good success. I have minimal to no

> hearing loss with no other symptoms aside from an occasional infection

> that responds to Cipro. In regards to medicine- i am in the health

> field and I only want surgery if a gun is put to my head. My ENT is

> somewhat indifferent about it at this point and respects my

> viewpoint. He believes that the question is not if but when I will

> need surgery. I am struggling with this decision. Am i foolish for

> waiting when I have minimal if any symptoms now? Would I be better

> off being more proactive and getting the surgery now? Anyone's

> feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Rex

>

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Hello Tammy, Good for you to do research and to look into all options! Those spasms really are terrible, I know. Have you allready tried any medicine? A lot of people feel better using tablets for under the tongue, you can ask your doctor. Furthermore you can find different suggestions to help against the spasms here on the board. My second (open) Heller is now 10 weeks ago, my first one 11 years (I am 33 years old). My first spasm occurred 1 year after my first Heller and now, after my second one, I still have spasms. Yet, both my Dutch and German surgeon told me that the spasms should lessen about 3 months after surgery, I can only hope they are right. Last Saturday we had an achalasian meeting in Germany. Of course we all shared our achalasia history. It struck me how many achalasians had no or much less spasms after their surgery! So surgery

definitely seems to help. As for the scars I cannot speak out of experience, as I have had open surgeries. What I saw during the presentation last Saturday, was that one has about 5 incisions. For someone who has a little bit more fat the scars are about 3 cm long, a thin person can do with 1 cm long scars. Hopefully this information will be of help to you. Isabellastla_c <stla_c@...> wrote: Hi everyone -I am still

researching and looking into options. I have had a Botox injection and now facing surgery. I would like to hear from any and all who have had the surgery that are around the age of 47. I would like to know symptoms prior to and following. Following the Botox I have had HORRIFIC spasms and have continued for 5 days now. I would also like to know the size of the lap incisions and how many.Thank you all for your input. It has been amazing how many symptoms are like mine. Look forward to hearing from you.Tammy

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