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My son Tobin is Lena's age, and your story is all too familiar.

When I went to the pediatritian at two years with concerns of a

hearing loss, I was put off with all kinds of platitudes. ( " He's the

third child, and doesn't get as much one-on-one time as the other

boys. " " He'll grow out of it soon enough. " " It's that selective

hearing that two-year-olds have. " ) ARGG!! It was just diagnosed a

few months ago. He had congential cholesteatoma in his right ear,

and was down to no hearing at all in it, with an unrelated hearing

loss in the other ear. When we were referred to an ENT, he placed

tubes, and mentioned that it " may need more work " , but that was all.

Fortunatly, the ENT was not afraid to refer him to an otologist when

he suspected a c-toma. And this one is the best. (You know the

implant that many on this loop have to replace the ossicular chain?

He developed it.)

If they try to put you off, just firmly, politly insist to be

referred to an otologist for a second opinion. (If there is a

children's hospital near you, all the better. They really KNOW how

to make a family less fearful.) At some point, Lena will get a CT

Scan to help diagnoss a c-toma, and help the surgen know what he is

dealing with. Talk about it as though it is the coolest thing in the

world, it will help you both not be afraid. She will lay down on the

platform, and they will cover her with a lead apron, and strap her

onto the table, so she cannot fall off. To help keep her still, they

will strap her head in, also. be sure to take your camera - she will

want to see the photos someday. When Tobin had his CT, they stuffed

washcloths around his head to hold it in place, put one on his

forehead - then duct taped him to the table. It was so funny

looking! We really laugh a lot over those photos. Some times a

person will recieve a sedative to help them relax, but it was over so

quickly (two minutes) the only one who needed it was me. LOL

When it came to the surgery, keep in mind you will need to

provide something for her to wear home that does not pull over her

head. No one told me that! Tobin had brand new jammies to wear, and

we couldn't put them on! Same goes for clothing while her ear is

tender - a week or so. Her ear will bleed afterward, so they have a

bowl strapped over her ear, filled with gauze to catch the ooze. My

other kids thought it looked like Tobin was wearing an athletic cup

on his head. (Older brothers, ya know.) One thing to keep in mind -

if you have to travel to your hospital for surgery, plan to stay

overnight the day before so you don't have to leave home at 3am. And

plan to stay overnight after the surgery, also. The anestesia can

nauseate by itself, coupled with an ear surgery and a drive - that's

just asking for a puking child. can you imagine how horrible it

would be to throw up after surgery like that? Poor baby. Teh hardest

part of recovery is keeping them still. As soon as the " BLOB " is

gone (our pet neame for c-toma), they feel so much better - and want

to get down to play. I had to go borrow a TV/VCR from our church, so

Tobin could watch movies all day long. Also, we played more

Candyland than I have played in my entire career as a mom. Plan to

have your other children at grandma's house, and the two of you have

LOTS of one-on-one time. Although Tobin didn't need the pain meds

after the second day - I gave it to him to keep him drugged up for a

nap. *shh - don't tell child services*

Boy, this turned out longer than I thought. If you would like to

chat more - or perhaps Lena would like to talk with Tobin - you can e-

mail me directly. He would probably love to show you photos.

Mrs_Kara@...

Kara

> Hello, I just learned today about C-toma's and thought I would join

> this site as I am so in the dark and a bit frightened about what I

> have seen so far in my research. My name is and my husband

Tim

> and I found today that our 4 year old daughter Lena may have a

> C-toma. It has not yet been confirmed by her Pediatric ENT but she

> shows all the signs. she had tubes at age two in both ears after

> continuous infections since birth. I informed her Ped about 1 1/2

> years ago of her hearing loss in her right ear. He suggested we

wait

> until her 4yr well check as they do hearing tests routine at that

> visit. She failed and was then seen by an ENT different than he

who

> placed the tubes and suposedly passed. Each doc's told me the tube

> in that ear was displaced and seem to be stuck in a glob of wax and

> that I should flush out the ear. Thank God I never got the nerve

to

> do this as about four weeks ago, she had puss and blood coming from

> that ear. The infection was so severe the Ped could not see

> anything.

>

> So for her follow up today, he suspects a C-toma and wants her to

> return to her Pediatric ENT immediately. She has not been sleeping

> well for sometime now, recurring headaches, I recently noticed an

> oder that seem to improve after infection was gone but now had been

> noticeable. She fell off a dining room chair four times in the

last

> two days and the office chair today while playing on the computer.

>

> Any comments are welcome. I especially would like to know about

the

> type of surgery likely for this age, if in deed it is a

Cholesteatoma

> and what we should expect.

>

> Thanks,

> Columbus, Ohio

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Thanks Dorothy, I put a call in to the ENT who did the tubes to allow him to evaluate and do a CT but no call back yet. I am going to check Webmd.com as suggested. I do have 's info and that will be my direction if nothing turns up here today.

Talk to ay soon.

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Hello, I just learned today about C-toma's and thought I would join this site as I am so in the dark and a bit frightened about what I have seen so far in my research. My name is and my husband Tim and I found today that our 4 year old daughter Lena may have a C-toma. It has not yet been confirmed by her Pediatric ENT but she shows all the signs. she had tubes at age two in both ears after continuous infections since birth. I informed her Ped about 1 1/2 years ago of her hearing loss in her right ear. He suggested we wait until her 4yr well check as they do hearing tests routine at that visit. She failed and was then seen by an ENT different than he who placed the tubes and suposedly passed. Each doc's told me the tube in that ear was displaced and seem to be stuck in a glob of wax and that I should flush out the ear. Thank God I never got the nerve to do this as about four weeks ago, she had puss and blood coming from that ear. The infection was so severe the Ped could not see anything. So for her follow up today, he suspects a C-toma and wants her to return to her Pediatric ENT immediately. She has not been sleeping well for sometime now, recurring headaches, I recently noticed an oder that seem to improve after infection was gone but now had been noticeable. She fell off a dining room chair four times in the last two days and the office chair today while playing on the computer. Any comments are welcome. I especially would like to know about the type of surgery likely for this age, if in deed it is a Cholesteatomaand what we should expect.Thanks, Columbus, Ohio

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G'day

Yes Nick constantly has headaches, especially on cloudy days (which are few and far between over here) To test Nick's hearing we need to go to Brisbane (a 10 hour trip away) and they use various machines with and without background noise. He always fails the test with the background noise. Then the otologist says some sentences to Nick whilst not looking at him and again looking at him and gets Nick to repeat them back to him. The testing process lasts about 2 hours. Nick does not have a hearing device as he has no amlification, therefore they will not work for Nick. Nick however does have a phone designed for the hearing impaired. The phone flashes when it is ringing and the box on the wall omits a mighty loud ring. Nick presses a button on the phone when he answers it to increase the volume of the person he is speaking to. It is a wonderfu device that keeps in touch with his friends and family. Word of warning though as the speakers volume is so loud it is best to have a second phone in the house for those of us who can hear properly as it does have an ear piercing tone that hurts our ears.

Keep your chin puckered mate

Debbie

Newbie here

Hello, I just learned today about C-toma's and thought I would join this site as I am so in the dark and a bit frightened about what I have seen so far in my research. My name is and my husband Tim and I found today that our 4 year old daughter Lena may have a C-toma. It has not yet been confirmed by her Pediatric ENT but she shows all the signs. she had tubes at age two in both ears after continuous infections since birth. I informed her Ped about 1 1/2 years ago of her hearing loss in her right ear. He suggested we wait until her 4yr well check as they do hearing tests routine at that visit. She failed and was then seen by an ENT different than he who placed the tubes and suposedly passed. Each doc's told me the tube in that ear was displaced and seem to be stuck in a glob of wax and that I should flush out the ear. Thank God I never got the nerve to do this as about four weeks ago, she had puss and blood coming from that ear. The infection was so severe the Ped could not see anything. So for her follow up today, he suspects a C-toma and wants her to return to her Pediatric ENT immediately. She has not been sleeping well for sometime now, recurring headaches, I recently noticed an oder that seem to improve after infection was gone but now had been noticeable. She fell off a dining room chair four times in the last two days and the office chair today while playing on the computer. Any comments are welcome. I especially would like to know about the type of surgery likely for this age, if in deed it is a Cholesteatomaand what we should expect.Thanks, Columbus, Ohio

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I've never tried it before. Is it the antihistamine

OTC drug? If so, I might give it a try.

Mike.

--- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

> I use it all the time! LOVE IT!

>

> kay vail <vailkay@...> wrote:I use benadryl

> for the nights I can't sleep. Has anyone else used

> this?

>

> " Mike M. " <lagunandn@...> wrote:Well, I take

> the Lex between 7-9 am. Sometimes earlier

> if I feel like running that morning. I've tried

> Trazodone, but it takes forever (3 hrs) to fall

> asleep. And usually if I lie in bed for about 3-4

> hours I'll finally fall asleep. So, Trazodone might

> not have worked at all. I still have a 1/2 full

> bottle

> along with bottles of Remeron and Hydroxyzine that

> didn't work either. My doc doesn't want to try the

> sleep aids that might be or have proven to be

> addictive. So, for now, we're sticking with

> hypnotics

> for faster response. I'm looking forward to the

> Lunesta, but worry about tolerance over time.

> Eventually, I'll probably have to get off Lex if

> sleep

> aids stop working. I am dreading that day! Thanks

> for

> the quick reply. I wasn't sure how active this group

> would be. Thanks.

>

> Mike.

> --- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

> > Mike,

> > Have you tried taking Lex in the a.m. to combat

> your

> > nighttime sleeplessness? Also, have you ever been

> > on Trazadone for sleeplessness?

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> > lagunandn <lagunandn@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi everyone, my name is Mike and as you might

> guess

> > by the subject

> > title, I'm a NEWBIE here in this group. I look

> > forward to reading the

> > many insights regarding Lexapro from a patients'

> > point of view. I've

> > always heard the doctor's side, but they also

> don't

> > seem to believe

> > about the withdrawals either.

> > Anyways, I've been on Lex since October '04 for

> > anxiety (social) and

> > depression (suicidal). I do have to admit that Lex

> > has been wonderful

> > in regards to my anxiety and depression. I can go

> > out and " mingle "

> > with people, self-esteem seems to have increased

> > (but that's probably

> > due to my changes in the way I approach life), and

> > life is ALOT more

> > bearable. I'm also going to therapy (CBT) which

> has

> > helped in many

> > different ways. So, the combination of therapy and

> > Lex has worked wonders.

> > The only side-effect is sleeplessness. I have to

> > take a sleep aid in

> > order to get to sleep. We've tried various meds,

> but

> > the only one that

> > works so far is Sonata. But today I'm being

> > prescribed Lunesta. So I'm

> > keeping my fingers crossed that this is the right

> > combination for me

> > to get a good night's sleep. But aside from the

> > sleep (lack of), Lex

> > has done wonders for me. But we'll see how the

> sleep

> > affects me in the

> > future. I can be irritable at times.

> > That's about all I have to say for now. I hope to

> > offer some insight

> > while also being enlightened while conversing with

> > the members of this

> > group.

> >

> > Mike.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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yep--antihistamine OTC. Same sleepy medicine as tylenol pm

Ash

" Mike M. " <lagunandn@...> wrote:

I've never tried it before. Is it the antihistamine

OTC drug? If so, I might give it a try.

Mike.

--- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

> I use it all the time! LOVE IT!

>

> kay vail <vailkay@...> wrote:I use benadryl

> for the nights I can't sleep. Has anyone else used

> this?

>

> " Mike M. " <lagunandn@...> wrote:Well, I take

> the Lex between 7-9 am. Sometimes earlier

> if I feel like running that morning. I've tried

> Trazodone, but it takes forever (3 hrs) to fall

> asleep. And usually if I lie in bed for about 3-4

> hours I'll finally fall asleep. So, Trazodone might

> not have worked at all. I still have a 1/2 full

> bottle

> along with bottles of Remeron and Hydroxyzine that

> didn't work either. My doc doesn't want to try the

> sleep aids that might be or have proven to be

> addictive. So, for now, we're sticking with

> hypnotics

> for faster response. I'm looking forward to the

> Lunesta, but worry about tolerance over time.

> Eventually, I'll probably have to get off Lex if

> sleep

> aids stop working. I am dreading that day! Thanks

> for

> the quick reply. I wasn't sure how active this group

> would be. Thanks.

>

> Mike.

> --- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

> > Mike,

> > Have you tried taking Lex in the a.m. to combat

> your

> > nighttime sleeplessness? Also, have you ever been

> > on Trazadone for sleeplessness?

> > Thanks

> >

> >

> > lagunandn <lagunandn@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi everyone, my name is Mike and as you might

> guess

> > by the subject

> > title, I'm a NEWBIE here in this group. I look

> > forward to reading the

> > many insights regarding Lexapro from a patients'

> > point of view. I've

> > always heard the doctor's side, but they also

> don't

> > seem to believe

> > about the withdrawals either.

> > Anyways, I've been on Lex since October '04 for

> > anxiety (social) and

> > depression (suicidal). I do have to admit that Lex

> > has been wonderful

> > in regards to my anxiety and depression. I can go

> > out and " mingle "

> > with people, self-esteem seems to have increased

> > (but that's probably

> > due to my changes in the way I approach life), and

> > life is ALOT more

> > bearable. I'm also going to therapy (CBT) which

> has

> > helped in many

> > different ways. So, the combination of therapy and

> > Lex has worked wonders.

> > The only side-effect is sleeplessness. I have to

> > take a sleep aid in

> > order to get to sleep. We've tried various meds,

> but

> > the only one that

> > works so far is Sonata. But today I'm being

> > prescribed Lunesta. So I'm

> > keeping my fingers crossed that this is the right

> > combination for me

> > to get a good night's sleep. But aside from the

> > sleep (lack of), Lex

> > has done wonders for me. But we'll see how the

> sleep

> > affects me in the

> > future. I can be irritable at times.

> > That's about all I have to say for now. I hope to

> > offer some insight

> > while also being enlightened while conversing with

> > the members of this

> > group.

> >

> > Mike.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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It's the ingredient in Tylenol PM that makes one sleepy. It's also an OTC

antihistamine. Be careful when taking the TPM that you don't accidently OD

yourself on this antihistamine.

I can't take this stuff. Makes me stupid all the next day. :-(

Barbara

Re: Newbie Here

>

> I've never tried it before. Is it the antihistamine

> OTC drug? If so, I might give it a try.

>

> Mike.

> --- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

>

>> I use it all the time! LOVE IT!

>>

>> kay vail <vailkay@...> wrote:I use benadryl

>> for the nights I can't sleep. Has anyone else used

>> this?

>>

>> " Mike M. " <lagunandn@...> wrote:Well, I take

>> the Lex between 7-9 am. Sometimes earlier

>> if I feel like running that morning. I've tried

>> Trazodone, but it takes forever (3 hrs) to fall

>> asleep. And usually if I lie in bed for about 3-4

>> hours I'll finally fall asleep. So, Trazodone might

>> not have worked at all. I still have a 1/2 full

>> bottle

>> along with bottles of Remeron and Hydroxyzine that

>> didn't work either. My doc doesn't want to try the

>> sleep aids that might be or have proven to be

>> addictive. So, for now, we're sticking with

>> hypnotics

>> for faster response. I'm looking forward to the

>> Lunesta, but worry about tolerance over time.

>> Eventually, I'll probably have to get off Lex if

>> sleep

>> aids stop working. I am dreading that day! Thanks

>> for

>> the quick reply. I wasn't sure how active this group

>> would be. Thanks.

>>

>> Mike.

>> --- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

>> > Mike,

>> > Have you tried taking Lex in the a.m. to combat

>> your

>> > nighttime sleeplessness? Also, have you ever been

>> > on Trazadone for sleeplessness?

>> > Thanks

>> >

>> >

>> > lagunandn <lagunandn@...> wrote:

>> >

>> > Hi everyone, my name is Mike and as you might

>> guess

>> > by the subject

>> > title, I'm a NEWBIE here in this group. I look

>> > forward to reading the

>> > many insights regarding Lexapro from a patients'

>> > point of view. I've

>> > always heard the doctor's side, but they also

>> don't

>> > seem to believe

>> > about the withdrawals either.

>> > Anyways, I've been on Lex since October '04 for

>> > anxiety (social) and

>> > depression (suicidal). I do have to admit that Lex

>> > has been wonderful

>> > in regards to my anxiety and depression. I can go

>> > out and " mingle "

>> > with people, self-esteem seems to have increased

>> > (but that's probably

>> > due to my changes in the way I approach life), and

>> > life is ALOT more

>> > bearable. I'm also going to therapy (CBT) which

>> has

>> > helped in many

>> > different ways. So, the combination of therapy and

>> > Lex has worked wonders.

>> > The only side-effect is sleeplessness. I have to

>> > take a sleep aid in

>> > order to get to sleep. We've tried various meds,

>> but

>> > the only one that

>> > works so far is Sonata. But today I'm being

>> > prescribed Lunesta. So I'm

>> > keeping my fingers crossed that this is the right

>> > combination for me

>> > to get a good night's sleep. But aside from the

>> > sleep (lack of), Lex

>> > has done wonders for me. But we'll see how the

>> sleep

>> > affects me in the

>> > future. I can be irritable at times.

>> > That's about all I have to say for now. I hope to

>> > offer some insight

>> > while also being enlightened while conversing with

>> > the members of this

>> > group.

>> >

>> > Mike.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ---------------------------------

>> >

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I kinda feel that if I have problems sleeping once in a while, which is what

it is for me now that I've been on the Effexor for about 2 months, it's well

worth it to feel so much better. :-D

I take Actifed for my sinuses and that makes me sleepy with no aftereffects

the next day.

I was given Attarax (Vistaril) in addition to the Effexor for severe itching

that was apparently my nerves. When it flares up and I have to take two of

the tablets I'm out of it for the entire next day. Talk about brain-dead.

Sheesh. I'm only taking 20mg max of Attarax on any one evening. The usual

lowest dose I could find for this drug is 50mg. I don't think I could handle

50 mg to be honest. :-/

Barbara

Re: Newbie Here

>

> The next day groggy feeling is what deters me from

> some of the meds. In the past, most OTC's haven't

> worked fast enough. Or they had the " hangover "

> feeling. For now I'm happy with the Sonata, but wake a

> little too early sometimes. Probably double dose

> tonite so I can get whole nights sleep.

>

> Mike.

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I can't take it either....it has the opposite affect. The doc had given me a

prescription once for " Hydroxine " I think, which he said would help out, but it

didn't. The only thing that helps me and relaxes me is Xanax.......then again

I've never tried Sonata. I've tried Ambien, didn't work, tried Temezepam, didn't

work either (I think that's a hypnotic).

Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote:

It's the ingredient in Tylenol PM that makes one sleepy. It's also an OTC

antihistamine. Be careful when taking the TPM that you don't accidently OD

yourself on this antihistamine.

I can't take this stuff. Makes me stupid all the next day. :-(

Barbara

Re: Newbie Here

>

> I've never tried it before. Is it the antihistamine

> OTC drug? If so, I might give it a try.

>

> Mike.

> --- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

>

>> I use it all the time! LOVE IT!

>>

>> kay vail <vailkay@...> wrote:I use benadryl

>> for the nights I can't sleep. Has anyone else used

>> this?

>>

>> " Mike M. " <lagunandn@...> wrote:Well, I take

>> the Lex between 7-9 am. Sometimes earlier

>> if I feel like running that morning. I've tried

>> Trazodone, but it takes forever (3 hrs) to fall

>> asleep. And usually if I lie in bed for about 3-4

>> hours I'll finally fall asleep. So, Trazodone might

>> not have worked at all. I still have a 1/2 full

>> bottle

>> along with bottles of Remeron and Hydroxyzine that

>> didn't work either. My doc doesn't want to try the

>> sleep aids that might be or have proven to be

>> addictive. So, for now, we're sticking with

>> hypnotics

>> for faster response. I'm looking forward to the

>> Lunesta, but worry about tolerance over time.

>> Eventually, I'll probably have to get off Lex if

>> sleep

>> aids stop working. I am dreading that day! Thanks

>> for

>> the quick reply. I wasn't sure how active this group

>> would be. Thanks.

>>

>> Mike.

>> --- Moser <ashmo27510@...> wrote:

>> > Mike,

>> > Have you tried taking Lex in the a.m. to combat

>> your

>> > nighttime sleeplessness? Also, have you ever been

>> > on Trazadone for sleeplessness?

>> > Thanks

>> >

>> >

>> > lagunandn <lagunandn@...> wrote:

>> >

>> > Hi everyone, my name is Mike and as you might

>> guess

>> > by the subject

>> > title, I'm a NEWBIE here in this group. I look

>> > forward to reading the

>> > many insights regarding Lexapro from a patients'

>> > point of view. I've

>> > always heard the doctor's side, but they also

>> don't

>> > seem to believe

>> > about the withdrawals either.

>> > Anyways, I've been on Lex since October '04 for

>> > anxiety (social) and

>> > depression (suicidal). I do have to admit that Lex

>> > has been wonderful

>> > in regards to my anxiety and depression. I can go

>> > out and " mingle "

>> > with people, self-esteem seems to have increased

>> > (but that's probably

>> > due to my changes in the way I approach life), and

>> > life is ALOT more

>> > bearable. I'm also going to therapy (CBT) which

>> has

>> > helped in many

>> > different ways. So, the combination of therapy and

>> > Lex has worked wonders.

>> > The only side-effect is sleeplessness. I have to

>> > take a sleep aid in

>> > order to get to sleep. We've tried various meds,

>> but

>> > the only one that

>> > works so far is Sonata. But today I'm being

>> > prescribed Lunesta. So I'm

>> > keeping my fingers crossed that this is the right

>> > combination for me

>> > to get a good night's sleep. But aside from the

>> > sleep (lack of), Lex

>> > has done wonders for me. But we'll see how the

>> sleep

>> > affects me in the

>> > future. I can be irritable at times.

>> > That's about all I have to say for now. I hope to

>> > offer some insight

>> > while also being enlightened while conversing with

>> > the members of this

>> > group.

>> >

>> > Mike.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ---------------------------------

>> >

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Hi Rich-

> find it odd as a minority to have two different colored eyes. Isn't

> it more common with people who have European/Caucasan genetics?

It happens in all races about equally. There are many Latins with

heterochromia- including those with the brilliant blue eye-or both

eyes, that can happen from the same genetic cause of heterochromia.

Now the latter would not be noticed in a white person as blue eyes are

not so uncommon in whites! I do understand how somebody could get the

impression it happens in whites more often though. You can sometimes

find pictures of Middle Easterners or Africans with heterochromia in a

search engine.

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I wouldnt say it is equal across the board, but these days there is

alot of intermixing between the " races " , so many groups that normally

wouldnt have blue or green eyes now have them alot more commonly.

Races that normally see blue and green eye colors are more

predispositioned to have Heterochromia, but any people that have

interbred with those races also have the ability i guess to have

Heterochromia.

Kathleen

> Hi Rich-

>

> > find it odd as a minority to have two different colored eyes.

Isn't

> > it more common with people who have European/Caucasan genetics?

>

> It happens in all races about equally. There are many Latins with

> heterochromia- including those with the brilliant blue eye-or both

> eyes, that can happen from the same genetic cause of heterochromia.

> Now the latter would not be noticed in a white person as blue eyes

are

> not so uncommon in whites! I do understand how somebody could get the

> impression it happens in whites more often though. You can sometimes

> find pictures of Middle Easterners or Africans with heterochromia in

a

> search engine.

>

>

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Okay, I don't really buy the intermixing part- heterochromia has to do

with piebaldism of sorts & piebaldism is known to happen in all races

& shouldn't have anything to do with whether the person is of a race

with lighter skin/eyes. But got me curious.. got any references for this?

> > Hi Rich-

> >

> > > find it odd as a minority to have two different colored eyes.

> Isn't

> > > it more common with people who have European/Caucasan genetics?

> >

> > It happens in all races about equally. There are many Latins with

> > heterochromia- including those with the brilliant blue eye-or both

> > eyes, that can happen from the same genetic cause of heterochromia.

> > Now the latter would not be noticed in a white person as blue eyes

> are

> > not so uncommon in whites! I do understand how somebody could get the

> > impression it happens in whites more often though. You can sometimes

> > find pictures of Middle Easterners or Africans with heterochromia in

> a

> > search engine.

> >

> >

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Debbie, Welcome to the board. I am having the lap band procedure on the 27th of this month. May I ask why you have decided on gastric bypass instead of the lap band?

Best of luck to you on your journey. I will post when I come back and let you know just how "scary" Mexico is if any at all.

Karlie

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Hi Debbie, Welcome to the group! I had the lab-band and love it! I'm sure Nina can give you some references from all the patients that have had G-bypass. My husband needed to be "persuaded" as well, and he reluctantly let me go with my girl friend who spoke spanish. Good luck with you hubby and your future surgery! Dana

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-------------- Original message -------------- From: "debbie313" <debbie313@...> Hi all - I'm at the point were I really need the surgery. Anyone here had the gastric bypass?I read some of the posts about being scared of getting it done in "Mexico" and my hubby has the same attitude.I just can't afford to have it done in the states and well, my insurance doesn't cover it......no matter WHAT your BMI is!!!

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Hi Debbie

No I haven't had the bypass because I felt it was way

more risky than the lapband for the same results. I

think most of us had to deal with someone feeling

worried about us having surgery in Mexico. All I can

say is to have them look at your research and read the

posts on this subject. My daughter convinced me that

it was no riskier than US hospitals. I lost a

daughter-in-law due to negligence with a tonsilectomy

in a US hospital! You will get a lot more attention

and care at Almater hospital, believe me! Dr. Aceves

and his team are the BEST! If I had a choice I would

go back to Dr. A for surgery before a US hospital! I

think many of us on this message board feel the same

way!

Best wishes to you in your research and I hope you

join us on the losing side!

Penny

Penny Manville

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My boss is a physician and during my last meeting with him, he went on line, looked up Hospital Almater and Dr. Alberto Aceves. By the time we looked around the site together, he was getting pretty excited for me! He was surprised at first that I'm not having the surgery in the US. I'm just not satisfied with our level of compliance to patient safety standards and that the government has to keep telling hospitals how to be safe. We should be doing these things on our own, not having to be told how to practice safely. was surprised at the modern, high-tech equipment in the hospital. I have very little concern about going to Mexico. There is always risk with anesthesia and surgery. All other things considered, I'm happy I've chosen to go with Dr. Aceves and Almater. Phyllis

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Hi DebbieNo I haven't had the bypass because I felt it was waymore risky than the lapband for the same results. Ithink most of us had to deal with someone feelingworried about us having surgery in Mexico. All I cansay is to have them look at your research and read theposts on this subject. My daughter convinced me thatit was no riskier than US hospitals. I lost adaughter-in-law due to negligence with a tonsilectomyin a US hospital! You will get a lot more attentionand care at Almater hospital, believe me! Dr. Acevesand his team are the BEST! If I had a choice I wouldgo back to Dr. A for surgery before a US hospital! Ithink many of us on this message board feel the sameway!Best wishes to you in your research and I hope youjoin us on the losing side!Penny Penny ManvilleWalden, ColoradoDOB 9/26/05230/185/1351st fill 12/9/05 1cc2nd fill 1/27/06 0.5 cc 1.5 cc total5'4"__________________________________________________

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I'm losing weight on Lexapro.

Colleen

jrzgrl64inva <jrzgrl64inva@...> wrote:

hi all...am new to the site....just started on lex. had been on

effexor for about 3-4yrs. it was only then that i discovered i had

some side effects from the effexor. i dismissed the side effects as

other things. the weight gain was just " getting older " and the night

sweats were pre-menopause.(I'M 42)when my extranged husbend noted that

since i had been on the effexor i " got fat " , and a co-worker noted

that her boyfriend, also on effexor had terrible night sweats, i

decided to talk to the pcp about a med change. i started the lex about

4 wks. ago and feel great. prior to the effexor i was on celexa and

changed to effexor because i felt the clelxa was just not working

anymore. i love the lex. it feels much better than the effexor and i

have started exercising. i had no weight gain on the celexa. my

questions are: 1.) has anyone experienced weight gain on the lex and

not celexa? 2.) has anyone experienced anorgasma on the lex and not

celexa? 3.)and are sensitive nipples a part of the side effects?

(sorry if i offend!!!) congrats to all who are battling mental health

issues for whatever reason and thanks for the group.....

patt

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hi patt,

I also have been on lex for about 4 weeks now. And like you, I have been on

celexa and paxel. both of these meds gave me excessing sweating and yes, I did

notice a weight gain, but I was also pari menipausal and then finally, last

year, neeed a hysterectomy- everything was " going south " sort of speak. Then my

doctor put me onl Celexa, a new one. he said it does suppress he appetite and it

was true. but it did not work for the anxiety and anger within me. so i was

switched to lex. well it seems i still have a problem keeping my weight down,

but I also am chained to a desk all day and admittedly, I am too lazy to execise

in the evening. so I don't think it would be fair blame the drug for that.

but the lex definately is working for anx and depression. my husband & I are

going thur family issues and it does help to cope with them.

jrzgrl64inva <jrzgrl64inva@...> wrote:

hi all...am new to the site....just started on lex. had been on

effexor for about 3-4yrs. it was only then that i discovered i had

some side effects from the effexor. i dismissed the side effects as

other things. the weight gain was just " getting older " and the night

sweats were pre-menopause.(I'M 42)when my extranged husbend noted that

since i had been on the effexor i " got fat " , and a co-worker noted

that her boyfriend, also on effexor had terrible night sweats, i

decided to talk to the pcp about a med change. i started the lex about

4 wks. ago and feel great. prior to the effexor i was on celexa and

changed to effexor because i felt the clelxa was just not working

anymore. i love the lex. it feels much better than the effexor and i

have started exercising. i had no weight gain on the celexa. my

questions are: 1.) has anyone experienced weight gain on the lex and

not celexa? 2.) has anyone experienced anorgasma on the lex and not

celexa? 3.)and are sensitive nipples a part of the side effects?

(sorry if i offend!!!) congrats to all who are battling mental health

issues for whatever reason and thanks for the group.....

patt

Skinner

E-Mail: Catherin_Skinner@...

Phone (805) 306-9765

Fax (805) 306-9765

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keep up the good work girl. i applaud your healing

process, it's not always easy but it's worth the

effort.

ak

--- CATHERINE SKINNER <catherin_skinner@...>

wrote:

> hi patt,

>

> I also have been on lex for about 4 weeks now.

> And like you, I have been on celexa and paxel. both

> of these meds gave me excessing sweating and yes, I

> did notice a weight gain, but I was also pari

> menipausal and then finally, last year, neeed a

> hysterectomy- everything was " going south " sort of

> speak. Then my doctor put me onl Celexa, a new one.

> he said it does suppress he appetite and it was

> true. but it did not work for the anxiety and anger

> within me. so i was switched to lex. well it seems

> i still have a problem keeping my weight down, but I

> also am chained to a desk all day and admittedly, I

> am too lazy to execise in the evening. so I don't

> think it would be fair blame the drug for that.

>

> but the lex definately is working for anx and

> depression. my husband & I are going thur family

> issues and it does help to cope with them.

>

>

>

> jrzgrl64inva <jrzgrl64inva@...> wrote:

> hi all...am new to the site....just

> started on lex. had been on

> effexor for about 3-4yrs. it was only then that i

> discovered i had

> some side effects from the effexor. i dismissed the

> side effects as

> other things. the weight gain was just " getting

> older " and the night

> sweats were pre-menopause.(I'M 42)when my extranged

> husbend noted that

> since i had been on the effexor i " got fat " , and a

> co-worker noted

> that her boyfriend, also on effexor had terrible

> night sweats, i

> decided to talk to the pcp about a med change. i

> started the lex about

> 4 wks. ago and feel great. prior to the effexor i

> was on celexa and

> changed to effexor because i felt the clelxa was

> just not working

> anymore. i love the lex. it feels much better than

> the effexor and i

> have started exercising. i had no weight gain on the

> celexa. my

> questions are: 1.) has anyone experienced weight

> gain on the lex and

> not celexa? 2.) has anyone experienced anorgasma on

> the lex and not

> celexa? 3.)and are sensitive nipples a part of the

> side effects?

> (sorry if i offend!!!) congrats to all who are

> battling mental health

> issues for whatever reason and thanks for the

> group.....

> patt

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Skinner

> E-Mail: Catherin_Skinner@...

> Phone (805) 306-9765

> Fax (805) 306-9765

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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My first ESI (epidural steriod injection) lasted about 3 weeks, the second about 5 weeks and the third had to last for 3+months, as I could only have 3 in a six month period. Then the doctor gave me two injections, two weeks apart. That has worked much beteter. It has been 3 months and I only have pain now and then. He said he thought he could give me 6 months of pain relief, not perfect relief, but standable relief. So far so good. He wanted to do the first two 2 weeks apart, but the neurosurgeon I was going to didn't want me to get a second one until I was able to get the myleogram, so it was over 4 weeks before I got the second one and I was in alot of pain by then. I think you do have to have a good doctor doing the injections. Are you going to a pain management clinic? Is the injecting doctor an anesthesologist?

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Hi Everyone,I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis and degenerative arthritis in my lumbar...lower back. I have been dealing with this for over a year...but thought it would go away. From just the few posts that I have read, I think I am in the right place.Standing in one place...like at work makes my left leg go numb. I have had 2 steroid injections...one of them was unsuccessful....meaning they couldn't find the space where they were supposed to inject the steroid. Has anyone else here had that problem. My first injection 2 months ago worked for 2 1/2 weeks.On top of the stenosis, that nerve is also pinched between L5 and S1. Can anyone give me a heads up on the future?

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Sounds like to me you need to go to a different place to have the injections done if you want to try them again. To be done properly you need to be with a good pain management doc that know what he is doing and how to inject the steroids properly. That involves and xray machine being used at the same time as the injection and knowing what the MRI looks like. If they couldn't find the right place to put the injection in, then I would say they didn't know what they where doing. As for the first working for 2 1/2 weeks, that's better results than I had for my first injection. Mine only lasted for 2 days. The second one didn't work much at all and the 3rd made everything worse. 5 weeks later I opted for surgery on the L4-L5 vertebrae as that was all that was involved. I had the surgery in June 2006 and am mostly recovered and doing fine now. If you want

further info on the type of surgery I had, just e-mail me and I'll be glad to tell you. I had a new type of procedure done, but it wasn't the x-stop. You can also read the other post I answered to another message as well. Fransatinyblue2004 <satinyblue2004@...> wrote: Hi Everyone,I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis and degenerative arthritis in my lumbar...lower back. I have been dealing with this for over a year...but thought it would go away. From just

the few posts that I have read, I think I am in the right place.Standing in one place...like at work makes my left leg go numb. I have had 2 steroid injections...one of them was unsuccessful....meaning they couldn't find the space where they were supposed to inject the steroid. Has anyone else here had that problem. My first injection 2 months ago worked for 2 1/2 weeks.On top of the stenosis, that nerve is also pinched between L5 and S1. Can anyone give me a heads up on the future?

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From what I understand, they did find the right place to put it in.

There was fluid in the area and they couldn't do it. I am going in

for another injection on February 2nd.

I have another quuestion. My left leg above the knee swells to twice

it's size. This never happened until after the first steroid

injection. Is this normal? Will this eventually go away. It was weird

and scarey at the same time. I had gone to bed and when I woke up, my

leg was huge. My knee was engulfed in the swelling. It feels like a

squishy mass.

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis and degenerative arthritis in

my

> lumbar...lower back. I have been dealing with this for over a

> year...but thought it would go away. From just the few posts that I

> have read, I think I am in the right place.

>

> Standing in one place...like at work makes my left leg go numb. I

have

> had 2 steroid injections...one of them was unsuccessful....meaning

they

> couldn't find the space where they were supposed to inject the

steroid.

> Has anyone else here had that problem. My first injection 2 months

ago

> worked for 2 1/2 weeks.

>

> On top of the stenosis, that nerve is also pinched between L5 and

S1.

> Can anyone give me a heads up on the future?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go

> with for Mobile. Get started.

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Hi,

I've had two rounds of injections which means I've had 6 total

injections. I've never had any swelling. I think you need to discuss

this with your doctor before you get another injection if you think

the two are related. Let us know what he/she says.

Nessie

>

> From what I understand, they did find the right place to put it in.

> There was fluid in the area and they couldn't do it. I am going in

> for another injection on February 2nd.

>

> I have another quuestion. My left leg above the knee swells to twice

> it's size. This never happened until after the first steroid

> injection. Is this normal? Will this eventually go away. It was

weird

> and scarey at the same time. I had gone to bed and when I woke up,

my

> leg was huge. My knee was engulfed in the swelling. It feels like a

> squishy mass.

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I am not sure what to do. I did mention ist to my orthopedic doctor,

he just looked at it with no comment. I think I am going to go for

the injection again this coming Friday and see what happens. After

that, I think I will go for a 2nd opinion. My question with the 2nd

opinion is: Will the center that I am at now let me have dopies of my

MRI and medical records they have. And how do I go about getting

those records?

> >

> > From what I understand, they did find the right place to put it

in.

> > There was fluid in the area and they couldn't do it. I am going

in

> > for another injection on February 2nd.

> >

> > I have another quuestion. My left leg above the knee swells to

twice

> > it's size. This never happened until after the first steroid

> > injection. Is this normal? Will this eventually go away. It was

> weird

> > and scarey at the same time. I had gone to bed and when I woke

up,

> my

> > leg was huge. My knee was engulfed in the swelling. It feels like

a

> > squishy mass.

>

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If I where you, I wouldn't go for another injection, especially if you think the swelling is related to the injection. If your doctor is not answering or commenting on your questions, then for sure you need another doctor ASAP. I would suggest that you get a second opinion as fast as you can and get one with a sports medicine spinal orthopedic surgeon. I have found, from personal experience, that they are the best to use and their treatments are the best, including the type of surgery that they do. As for the copies of the medical records, by law they have to give them to you, all of them, copies of the MRI, medical records from the doctor etc. All you have to do is tell them you want them and will wait right their while they give you the copies. If you don't want them to know that you are going to get another opinion, then don't tell them. Just tell them, you want them for your own personal

records. You can't be denied copies of any of you medical records, they are yours and you, in fact, own them. I wouldn't recomend that you have them sent to a the doctor you are seeing for another opinion because if you want to have a third, you won't have the records. Before I had my spinal surgery last June, I got copies of all my records and tests and had them with me when I got my other opinions, 6 of them. All the records came back home with me after each visit. It took me 30 minutes to get all the copies I needed. Good luck and let us know what you decide to do and how you are doing. Fransatinyblue2004 <satinyblue2004@...> wrote: I am not sure what to do. I did mention ist to my orthopedic doctor, he just looked at it with no comment. I think I am going to go for the injection again this coming Friday and see what happens. After that, I think I will go for a 2nd opinion. My question with the 2nd opinion is: Will the center that I am at now let me have dopies of my MRI and medical records they have. And how do I go about getting those records?> >> > From what I understand, they did find the right place to put it in. > > There was fluid in the area and they couldn't do it. I am going in > > for another injection on February 2nd. > > > > I have another quuestion. My left leg above the knee swells to twice > > it's size. This never happened until after the first steroid > > injection. Is this normal? Will this eventually go away. It was > weird > > and scarey at the same time. I had gone to bed and when I woke

up, > my > > leg was huge. My knee was engulfed in the swelling. It feels like a > > squishy mass.>

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