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Who decides whether one is impaired or not? Someone

feeling no pain because of the use of heavy narcotics?

Whether it is alcohol use or drug use (legal or illegal), users

should not be driving on the highways. You are talking to someone who

lost a very good friend's 20 year old son to a driving drug user 88 days

ago.

Re: surgery

Which hip did you have done, and what approach? (I seriously can't

imagine four days, let alone four weeks without driving!)

In a message dated 9/5/2011 6:54:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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My hip doctor says I can drive in 4 weeks.

Gayle

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Copes need wither a roadblock OR a valid reason for stopping you in the

first place, and then a reason to suspect you are impaired by drugs or

alcohol.

In a message dated 9/7/2011 9:51:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

leecaroler@... writes:

i guess if they only can do a some sort of balnce or ambulation or

Walking over cones test to determine if one is impaired or not and one tests

fine then that is where they must stop?

Do you mean that if the person does not show as impaired for driving

they could not legally do a breatalyzer or blood or urine test. How does

this legal order of rights work in most states? In your state.

L

>

> I " m retired criminal defense attorney, and if you are taking

prescribed

> meds at a prescribed dosage and your driving is not impaired, nothing

they

> can do to you. Again...after you take things like Oxycontin for a

while,

> you simply are able to function normally with them, despite being

knocked on

> your butt at the beginning.

>

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> In a message dated 9/7/2011 7:06:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> kell_joan@... writes:

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> I agree with . In New York and North Yorkshire you would be busted

> but good!

> Joan

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> From: " maryanne.waspe1@... " <maryanne.waspe1@...>

> Joint Replacement

> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 7:12 AM

> Subject: Re: surgery

>

>

>

> Don't kid yourself, why do the police stop and test people for drugs,

> whether you use them legally or illegally they are still in your

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> Which hip did you have done, and what approach? (I seriously can't

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I go along with them doing anything to keep our roads safe.....

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>

> Which hip did you have done, and what approach? (I seriously can't

> imagine four days, let alone four weeks without driving!)

>

>

> In a message dated 9/5/2011 6:54:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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> My hip doctor says I can drive in 4 weeks.

> Gayle

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Osteoarthritis (my diagnosis) has no set pattern of damage or attack and can

affect us each in different ways i guess.

L

> > >

> > > I cannot do any lateral movement at all, everything is simply locked in

> > > place. There was nothing the physical therapists could do about that

> > one.

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > chgayle@ writes:

> > >

> > > My hips are so painful I have a hard time with any left right

> > movement.

> > > I

> > > am hoping that hip surgery fixes the pain issue.

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I had to get a cardiac stress test a few days before surgery date and as again

luck was running my knees and hip got all locked up as i attempted to leave

the car so i had to ride my mobility cart in and work my way onto the table

(very gingerly) and lay on the hospital table taking the iV induced cardiac

stress test with my rt knee stuck up near my face and telling everone not to

dare try to move me. Let me do the moving my way if need be or i might

scream. lol (nottt Lol)

L

> > > >

> > > > I cannot do any lateral movement at all, everything is simply locked in

> > > > place. There was nothing the physical therapists could do about that

> > > one.

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> > > > In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > > chgayle@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > My hips are so painful I have a hard time with any left right

> > > movement.

> > > > I

> > > > am hoping that hip surgery fixes the pain issue.

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Well, at least you will appear very athletic when at your family get

togethers they all want to dance the can can together, your high kick will be a

wonder to even the young ones.

In a message dated 9/9/2011 2:55:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jarcher107@... writes:

Only to the side, oddly enough I can still high kick fore and aft.

In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:50:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

chgayle@... writes:

How awful, I am able to move with pain meds, so I guess I am lucky.

Are

both your hips limited in movement?

In a message dated 9/9/2011 2:48:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jarcher107@... writes:

I cannot do any lateral movement at all, everything is simply locked in

place. There was nothing the physical therapists could do about that

one.

In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

chgayle@... writes:

My hips are so painful I have a hard time with any left right

movement.

I

am hoping that hip surgery fixes the pain issue.

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Sounds like you had a real hard time. Was this lock up after the hip

replacement or before?

In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:50:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

leecaroler@... writes:

if i dared to sit for even a moment at the bank or at someones house even

in my car my hip would be sure to lock me in that place with my hip

unable to unlock my leg out of that sitting position. In defeat I would

embarrasingly have to try to undo the lockup but most always failed

(untillater when got home) and tohus had to call my husband to often to come

and

rescue me if i drove somewhere that first week and very soon had to

quit driving altogether until the allowed 6 weeks time period after my

urgent THR.

L

--- In Joint Replacement , jarcher107@... wrote:

>

> I cannot do any lateral movement at all, everything is simply locked in

> place. There was nothing the physical therapists could do about that

one.

>

>

> In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> chgayle@... writes:

>

> My hips are so painful I have a hard time with any left right

movement.

> I

> am hoping that hip surgery fixes the pain issue.

>

>

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The meds make my life bearable. Without the pain meds I would have no

quialty of life. I would be stuck at home or in a wheel chair. Not for me.

Gayle California

In a message dated 9/9/2011 8:24:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

sibemshr2@... writes:

I have to agree........ I too have been on heavy narcotics for decades,

they just don't affect me like others. Chronic pain isn't fun to live

with, but the meds tend to ease the pain enough for me to live a sorta

normal life.

TACHANKA SIBERIANS

" All Four Paws Rolling "

wenatchee, wa

Actually, they don't, and it's not illegal to drive with them in your

system if you are not impaired. Not in the US anyway. I've been on them

for

years, as I said, and you get used to them.

In a message dated 9/7/2011 2:13:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

maryanne.waspe1@... writes:

Don't kid yourself, why do the police stop and test people for drugs,

whether you use them legally or illegally they are still in your system.

-------Original Message-------

From: jarcher107@...

Date: 09/07/11 11:18:55

Joint Replacement

Subject: Re: surgery

I'[ve been on heavy narcotics for a couple years now, so they don't affect

me as they would most others.

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Yes, one is never too old to embarrass the kids.

In a message dated 9/10/2011 4:19:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

chgayle@... writes:

Well, at least you will appear very athletic when at your family get

togethers they all want to dance the can can together, your high kick

will be a

wonder to even the young ones.

In a message dated 9/9/2011 2:55:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jarcher107@... writes:

Only to the side, oddly enough I can still high kick fore and aft.

In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:50:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

chgayle@... writes:

How awful, I am able to move with pain meds, so I guess I am lucky.

Are

both your hips limited in movement?

In a message dated 9/9/2011 2:48:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

jarcher107@... writes:

I cannot do any lateral movement at all, everything is simply locked

in

place. There was nothing the physical therapists could do about that

one.

In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

chgayle@... writes:

My hips are so painful I have a hard time with any left right

movement.

I

am hoping that hip surgery fixes the pain issue.

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BEFORE the 2010 hip THR.

i had just about finished a commercial diet that gave me a 30 lb wt loss which

was supposedly a good idea in advance of my soon hoped for Total Knee job.

But to my surprise my hip did a sudden rapid deterioration on me and thus

moved up as first in line to be replaced over my lame knee.

In a way if both were going to go on me it was lucky i waited the x no. of

years to buy more time with my own knee because i ended up with the opportunity

to have the hip done before the knee. I am told hip before knee is the best

order of replacement when both are bad on same leg and the option presents

itself.

L

> >

> > I cannot do any lateral movement at all, everything is simply locked in

> > place. There was nothing the physical therapists could do about that

> one.

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > chgayle@ writes:

> >

> > My hips are so painful I have a hard time with any left right

> movement.

> > I

> > am hoping that hip surgery fixes the pain issue.

> >

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My ortho doctor said that he always does the hip before the knee if both

need replacing.

G

In a message dated 9/10/2011 3:28:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

leecaroler@... writes:

BEFORE the 2010 hip THR.

i had just about finished a commercial diet that gave me a 30 lb wt loss

which was supposedly a good idea in advance of my soon hoped for Total Knee

job. But to my surprise my hip did a sudden rapid deterioration on me

and thus moved up as first in line to be replaced over my lame knee.

In a way if both were going to go on me it was lucky i waited the x no.

of years to buy more time with my own knee because i ended up with the

opportunity to have the hip done before the knee. I am told hip before knee

is the best order of replacement when both are bad on same leg and the

option presents itself.

L

> >

> > I cannot do any lateral movement at all, everything is simply locked

in

> > place. There was nothing the physical therapists could do about that

> one.

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 9/9/2011 5:47:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > chgayle@ writes:

> >

> > My hips are so painful I have a hard time with any left right

> movement.

> > I

> > am hoping that hip surgery fixes the pain issue.

> >

> >

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