Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 In a message dated 10/19/2008 8:17:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, judywade109@... writes: They've always given me a xanax when I'm getting ready at the hospital. HI everyone, I've been reading but don't post very often. I'm just now planning a bilateral knee replacement. My consult is Nov and I'm terrified. Does anyone know if doctors and give you something to keep you calm before the surgery? I'm afraid I won't make it in the front door of the hospital! LOL Judy **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Judy, I think a lot has to do with your confidence of your surgeon. After being told by my primary physician, pulmonary physician, and my original sports medicine ortho physician that I have the best in the area and one of the best on the east coast and after seeing he has taught at the Mayo clinic I am " currently " not concerned with my scheduled surgery. Or maybe I've been in pain so long that doing something has to beat doing nothing. Good luck TKR HI everyone, I've been reading but don't post very often. I'm just now planning a bilateral knee replacement. My consult is Nov and I'm terrified. Does anyone know if doctors and give you something to keep you calm before the surgery? I'm afraid I won't make it in the front door of the hospital! LOL Judy ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Steel Buildings Garage overflowing? Click for steel buildings that are durable and easy to install. http://tagline. excite.com/ fc/JkJQPTgLymRQx f1d06FkZe93aCU7Q O9uE8UUB7IXYFfOy ijmqmEW0g/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 See if you can get the first surgery in the a.m., you are so tired you don't care. They usually do put Versed or some other forgetting drug in your IV right away. I remember them putting in the IV, then starting some meds and asking me to move over to the surgical table. They were in the process of asking me to turn on my side when everything was gone. The next I remember I was in recovery and feeling fine because the drugs during surgery are good. I know it seems terrifying and I only had one TKR but ultimately, you won't remember much of the bad and when you have recovered you will be so thrilled at the lack of pain and at the range of motion you have. TKR HI everyone, I've been reading but don't post very often. I'm just now planning a bilateral knee replacement. My consult is Nov and I'm terrified. Does anyone know if doctors and give you something to keep you calm before the surgery? I'm afraid I won't make it in the front door of the hospital! LOL Judy ------------------------------------------------------------ Steel Buildings Garage overflowing? Click for steel buildings that are durable and easy to install. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgLymRQxf1d06FkZe93aCU7QO9uE8UUB7IXYFfOyij mqmEW0g/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Hi, I had a lot of anxiety the night before and the morning of my THR. When I was getting ready for the knees, I asked for something for anxiety. I was allowed to take ativan (maybe spelling it wrong) and told to tell the anesthesiologist that I took it. Re: TKR In a message dated 10/19/2008 8:17:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, judywade109@ excite.com writes: They've always given me a xanax when I'm getting ready at the hospital. HI everyone, I've been reading but don't post very often. I'm just now planning a bilateral knee replacement. My consult is Nov and I'm terrified. Does anyone know if doctors and give you something to keep you calm before the surgery? I'm afraid I won't make it in the front door of the hospital! LOL Judy ************ **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local. mapquest. com/?ncid= emlcntnew0000000 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Judy, I probably missed it. Who is your surgeon? Re: TKR Judy, I think a lot has to do with your confidence of your surgeon. After being told by my primary physician, pulmonary physician, and my original sports medicine ortho physician that I have the best in the area and one of the best on the east coast and after seeing he has taught at the Mayo clinic I am " currently " not concerned with my scheduled surgery. Or maybe I've been in pain so long that doing something has to beat doing nothing. Good luck TKR HI everyone, I've been reading but don't post very often. I'm just now planning a bilateral knee replacement. My consult is Nov and I'm terrified. Does anyone know if doctors and give you something to keep you calm before the surgery? I'm afraid I won't make it in the front door of the hospital! LOL Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 HI, The surgeon I found is Godbout Brett P MD I'm just now searching. any suggestion for surgeons on the east coast? Judy RE: TKR Note: Original message sent as attachment ------------------------------------------------------------ Photography School Learn digital and video photography techniques, lighting and printing. Click now. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgMWwss98wYWahrJGlXA8CDESGvTrr6RQ0uYfS1sR8RrkF\ xNu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 East Coast is a big area. I am in Southern NJ and am going to a surgeon at Pennsylania Hospital in Phila, Pa. Dr Bartolozzi supposedly gets patients from all over the country. The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for. RE: TKR Note: Original message sent as attachment ------------------------------------------------------------ Photography School Learn digital and video photography techniques, lighting and printing. Click now. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgMWwss98wYWahrJGlXA8CDESGvTrr6RQ0uYfS1sR8 RrkFxNu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 There's a great surgeon in Asheville, NC at Blue Ridge Bone and Joint...Dr. Karegeannes There's a great surgeon in Celebration, FL...Dr. Dore There's a great surgeon in Columbia, SC at Midlands Orthopedics...Dr. Peele All 3 have done surgery on me...Dr. Karegeannes specializes in problems, infections, problems after infection... I would highly recommend all 3... Harold On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:00 PM, shihtzumom wrote: East Coast is a big area. I am in Southern NJ and am going to a surgeon at Pennsylania Hospital in Phila, Pa. Dr Bartolozzi supposedly gets patients from all over the country. The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for. RE: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] TKR Note: Original message sent as attachment ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Photography School Learn digital and video photography techniques, lighting and printing. Click now. http://tagline. excite.com/ fc/JkJQPTgMWwss9 8wYWahrJGlXA8CDE SGvTrr6RQ0uYfS1s R8 <http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgMWwss98wYWahrJGlXA8CDESGvTrr6RQ0uYfS1sR8> RrkFxNu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 It's normal to have some pain/swelling towards the end of 6 mos.but it should not be all the time.6 mos is pretty much the outside window that I was given and that I experienced with any pain/swelling for a normal knee replacement. I'd go back and see your OS. Harold _____ From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of allie6154 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:22 PM Joint Replacement Subject: TKR I had a TKR on Oct 28, 08, which was a result of a fall I had at work approximately 3 years prior to it. I still have some swelling on the inside of my knee as well as burning and pain all the time. I only take 1 Vicodin at the end of the day so I can sleep. Is this normal or should I go see my ortho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 You are just barely six months out of surgery. When in doubt, go see your orthopedist, but I think you may just be experiencing some nerve healing. The nerves are the last tissue to heal, they take a long time up to 12 months. This is the main reason why a lot of people say they dodon't feel " normal " until a year after the surgery. It's not just the pain nerves, it's also the nerves that give you joint pressure and position sense that are healing. I remember with my first TKR a year later being insecure going down hills and steps without a cane. Give it some more time. Nerve pain is stinging, burning stuff that comes and goes with activity. It's different from muscle and incision pain. Also, your knee and all the muscles around it are still realigning in the " new " position and getting used to working together that way. Annie Pal PT in SC > > I had a TKR on Oct 28, 08, which was a result of a fall I had at work approximately 3 years prior to it. > > I still have some swelling on the inside of my knee as well as burning and pain all the time. I only take 1 Vicodin at the end of the day so I can sleep. > > Is this normal or should I go see my ortho? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Doug, Welcome to the group. The statement is true for most people. Once you have severe arthritis it's not going to get better. I posted recently about my positive results from my tkr and all I can say is that it's made a major difference in my life. I also have diabetes, cardiac issues and apnea and none of those will prohibit your surgery. If you have any questions please contact me. I'm always happy to share my positive results which I believe are more the norm than the many people with issues that tend to post more often here and on other sites. Jeff ________________________________ From: <douglasswearingen@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:35:16 PM Subject: TKR As an introduction to the group, my name is Doug. I reside in southern New Mexico. I have been suffering from Osteo-Arthritis of the Knee since my last knee surgery that was about 30 years ago. I have had two knee surgeries being caused by an accident when I was a child playing football with my two brothers. Anyway I an considering a TKR. I have been told by the orthopaedic surgeon that the knees will never be any better than they are now. I do not know how true that statement is. As well I have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Cardiac problems, sleep apnea, and a rare blood disorder called Polycythemia. So I have been in the process of filing for Social Security Disability for the past 4 months as my doctors tell me I am disabled and can forget working. I would like to hear about the experience other persons have had on going through TKR. I am relatively sure the other knee (right) will have to be done at some point strictly from the aspect of the stress that has been put on it for the past years. Thanks for any information shared. By the way in case anyone wants to know my age is 56. ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 I would second Jeff's post that from a perception point of view, it sometimes appears that knee and hip replacements are less than successful for a large segment of people. The opposite is of course true as the vast majority of people have a remarkable success and regain the quality of life that was impossible with knees and hips causing agony when used. Most people find sites like this prior to operation and ask questions. When the operation is a success, they are back out among the living and tend to stop posting. Those with problems remain or find sites because they are looking for answers and support. This is NOT intended to be derogatory towards those who post with problems but merely pointing out that the user base is skewed somewhat -- especially in terms of complete success versus problems. Recovery from knee surgery is much harder than recovery from hip replacement in my own personal experience. I have only had hip replacement but my neighbor has had both and after 7 weeks is still in pain and doing extensive physical therapy. Of course that's early on in terms of knee replacement (from what I have read. On Nov 21, 2009, at 7:51 AM, Scharff wrote: > Doug, > Welcome to the group. > The statement is true for most people. Once you have severe > arthritis it's not going to get better. > I posted recently about my positive results from my tkr and all I > can say is that it's made a major difference in my life. I also have > diabetes, cardiac issues and apnea and none of those will prohibit > your surgery. > If you have any questions please contact me. I'm always happy to > share my positive results which I believe are more the norm than the > many people with issues that tend to post more often here and on > other sites. > Jeff > > ________________________________ > From: <douglasswearingen@...> > Joint Replacement > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:35:16 PM > Subject: TKR > > As an introduction to the group, my name is Doug. I reside in > southern New Mexico. I have been suffering from Osteo-Arthritis of > the Knee since my last knee surgery that was about 30 years ago. I > have had two knee surgeries being caused by an accident when I was a > child playing football with my two brothers. > > Anyway I an considering a TKR. I have been told by the orthopaedic > surgeon that the knees will never be any better than they are now. > I do not know how true that statement is. > > As well I have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Cardiac problems, > sleep apnea, and a rare blood disorder called Polycythemia. So I > have been in the process of filing for Social Security Disability > for the past 4 months as my doctors tell me I am disabled and can > forget working. > > I would like to hear about the experience other persons have had on > going through TKR. I am relatively sure the other knee (right) will > have to be done at some point strictly from the aspect of the stress > that has been put on it for the past years. > > Thanks for any information shared. > > By the way in case anyone wants to know my age is 56. > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 Hi Doug. For me the decision to get TKR came down to a simple " do I want to walk or not? " I tried everything before deciding, spent lots of time with a great Physical Therapist trying to build up the leg muscles so my knee would not have to bear such a load, got Synvisc which didn't work for me, I was living on cortisone shots. I finally noticed my life was getting smaller and smaller, a very gradual process...I was not going places because of walking or stairs or just pain, but all this occurring at a subconscious level. I now have both knees TKR'd (also both hips resurfaced) and I'm so glad I did it. I had a successful surgery, relatively quick recovery. I'm now 7 months out from second TKR and I can do anything, even ski! Walking and stairs no longer bother me. I do not have the other health problems you do, so cannot address those. I do have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which I thought might make recovery more difficult but didn't. But find an extremely good surgeon, even if he/she isn't in your town. Most joint replacement problems are caused by surgeon error. One good measure is how many of the same procedure he has already done. Personally, I would not go to anyone who has done less than 200 and I've only gone to surgeons over the 1,000 procedure mark. The infection rate of the hospital is important to ask about too, in my case it was .004%. Good luck, Hollie > > As an introduction to the group, my name is Doug. I reside in southern New Mexico. I have been suffering from Osteo-Arthritis of the Knee since my last knee surgery that was about 30 years ago. I have had two knee surgeries being caused by an accident when I was a child playing football with my two brothers. > > Anyway I an considering a TKR. I have been told by the orthopaedic surgeon that the knees will never be any better than they are now. I do not know how true that statement is. > > As well I have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Cardiac problems, sleep apnea, and a rare blood disorder called Polycythemia. So I have been in the process of filing for Social Security Disability for the past 4 months as my doctors tell me I am disabled and can forget working. > > I would like to hear about the experience other persons have had on going through TKR. I am relatively sure the other knee (right) will have to be done at some point strictly from the aspect of the stress that has been put on it for the past years. > > Thanks for any information shared. > > By the way in case anyone wants to know my age is 56. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Greetings, I am 47, had a TKA 11/4/09. It has been very complicated. Strictly speaking of the knee, I will agree that replacing a rotten knee will NOT get you what you hope for. I hoped for a pain free, mobile knee without swelling. As the process got closer to surgery I found out more and more about the limitations of TKA; swelling will likely continue for 6-12 mos post op, pain may continue for a year. Following surgery I was in much greater pain than prior to surgery, *but the pain is different. it is a injury pain and now a healing pain.* Believe it when you read that people have depression after TKA. I'm just a bit over 2 weeks into this and have what a PT friend calls " buyer's remorse " . I have been told that in 6-12 months the worst will be behind me. I only hope as much. My surgery went relatively smoothly despite my surgeons concerns about my many previous surgeries complicating this one. My knees were malaligned since birth. I also have young onset alzheimer's. I now have seizures, just since surgery. This has negatively impacted my rehab. I'm 2.4 weeks since surgery. Active flex is 95, active extension is -5 (5 past zero). I am having little problem with pain during the day, but the nights KILL me. I have deep, bone crushing pain. Using ice and medication and meditation. Starting to get massages to try and lower my anxiety/stress/speed healing. Good luck! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <douglasswearingen@...>wrote: > > > As an introduction to the group, my name is Doug. I reside in southern New > Mexico. I have been suffering from Osteo-Arthritis of the Knee since my last > knee surgery that was about 30 years ago. I have had two knee surgeries > being caused by an accident when I was a child playing football with my two > brothers. > > Anyway I an considering a TKR. I have been told by the orthopaedic surgeon > that the knees will never be any better than they are now. I do not know how > true that statement is. > > As well I have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Cardiac problems, sleep > apnea, and a rare blood disorder called Polycythemia. So I have been in the > process of filing for Social Security Disability for the past 4 months as my > doctors tell me I am disabled and can forget working. > > I would like to hear about the experience other persons have had on going > through TKR. I am relatively sure the other knee (right) will have to be > done at some point strictly from the aspect of the stress that has been put > on it for the past years. > > Thanks for any information shared. > > By the way in case anyone wants to know my age is 56. > > > -- Diane Thornton www.knitmentia.blogspot.com www.lefthandedknitting.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Diane, You're only a very short time out of surgery and perhaps your expectations were unrealistic. If you continue with pt and home program the pain should lessen and the swelling will go down. I have to disagree with your statement that you'll not get what you what you hope for. You have to give this some time to be effective. You had major surgery just 2 1/2 weeks ago and your body went through a pretty severe trauma. Pain, swelling and some depression are all quite normal for the amount of time since your surgery. To get past all this you need to be consistent with your exercises and medication. Try to relax a little and give your new knee some time to heal Jeff ________________________________ From: Diane Thornton <leftoutknitter@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:17:50 AM Subject: Re: TKR Greetings, I am 47, had a TKA 11/4/09. It has been very complicated. Strictly speaking of the knee, I will agree that replacing a rotten knee will NOT get you what you hope for. I hoped for a pain free, mobile knee without swelling. As the process got closer to surgery I found out more and more about the limitations of TKA; swelling will likely continue for 6-12 mos post op, pain may continue for a year. Following surgery I was in much greater pain than prior to surgery, *but the pain is different. it is a injury pain and now a healing pain.* Believe it when you read that people have depression after TKA. I'm just a bit over 2 weeks into this and have what a PT friend calls " buyer's remorse " . I have been told that in 6-12 months the worst will be behind me. I only hope as much. My surgery went relatively smoothly despite my surgeons concerns about my many previous surgeries complicating this one. My knees were malaligned since birth. I also have young onset alzheimer's. I now have seizures, just since surgery. This has negatively impacted my rehab. I'm 2.4 weeks since surgery. Active flex is 95, active extension is -5 (5 past zero). I am having little problem with pain during the day, but the nights KILL me. I have deep, bone crushing pain. Using ice and medication and meditation. Starting to get massages to try and lower my anxiety/stress/speed healing. Good luck! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <douglasswearingen@...>wrote: > > > As an introduction to the group, my name is Doug. I reside in southern New > Mexico. I have been suffering from Osteo-Arthritis of the Knee since my last > knee surgery that was about 30 years ago. I have had two knee surgeries > being caused by an accident when I was a child playing football with my two > brothers. > > Anyway I an considering a TKR. I have been told by the orthopaedic surgeon > that the knees will never be any better than they are now. I do not know how > true that statement is. > > As well I have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Cardiac problems, sleep > apnea, and a rare blood disorder called Polycythemia. So I have been in the > process of filing for Social Security Disability for the past 4 months as my > doctors tell me I am disabled and can forget working. > > I would like to hear about the experience other persons have had on going > through TKR. I am relatively sure the other knee (right) will have to be > done at some point strictly from the aspect of the stress that has been put > on it for the past years. > > Thanks for any information shared. > > By the way in case anyone wants to know my age is 56. > > > -- Diane Thornton www.knitmentia.blogspot.com www.lefthandedknitting.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 I sympathize with your feelings but you are only two weeks out of surgery. There is no one who has had a knee replacement who hasn't had significant discomfort after surgery -- especially after doing the exercise which are necessary for a full recovery. You also appear to have some other significant medical conditions making the operation and rehabilitation more difficult However, there are excellent pain killers which alleviate pain and no one should have to experience KILLING pain -- as you phrased it. If the pain is that bad, speak to your OS about better pain killers. No one has knee replacement (or even hip replacement) on a whim. Most people opt for surgery because the pain of the knee or the hip has become so bad that it is debilitating and circumscribing their daily existence. Recovery from hip surgery is easier than knee surgery but for almost everyone, knee surgery is a " cure " for the knee which enables them to regain a normal life. Again, after roughly two weeks, most people with knee replacements are depressed, swollen and experiencing pain -- but almost every person when asked a year later would do it again. On Nov 22, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Diane Thornton wrote: > Greetings, > > I am 47, had a TKA 11/4/09. It has been very complicated. Strictly > speaking of the knee, I will agree that replacing a rotten knee will > NOT get > you what you hope for. I hoped for a pain free, mobile knee without > swelling. As the process got closer to surgery I found out more and > more > about the limitations of TKA; swelling will likely continue for 6-12 > mos > post op, pain may continue for a year. Following surgery I was in much > greater pain than prior to surgery, *but the pain is different. it > is a > injury pain and now a healing pain.* Believe it when you read that > people > have depression after TKA. I'm just a bit over 2 weeks into this and > have > what a PT friend calls " buyer's remorse " . I have been told that in > 6-12 > months the worst will be behind me. I only hope as much. My surgery > went > relatively smoothly despite my surgeons concerns about my many > previous > surgeries complicating this one. My knees were malaligned since > birth. I > also have young onset alzheimer's. I now have seizures, just since > surgery. This has negatively impacted my rehab. > I'm 2.4 weeks since surgery. Active flex is 95, active extension is > -5 (5 > past zero). I am having little problem with pain during the day, but > the > nights KILL me. I have deep, bone crushing pain. Using ice and > medication > and meditation. Starting to get massages to try and lower my > anxiety/stress/speed healing. Good luck! > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, > <douglasswearingen@...>wrote: > > > > > > > As an introduction to the group, my name is Doug. I reside in > southern New > > Mexico. I have been suffering from Osteo-Arthritis of the Knee > since my last > > knee surgery that was about 30 years ago. I have had two knee > surgeries > > being caused by an accident when I was a child playing football > with my two > > brothers. > > > > Anyway I an considering a TKR. I have been told by the orthopaedic > surgeon > > that the knees will never be any better than they are now. I do > not know how > > true that statement is. > > > > As well I have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Cardiac problems, > sleep > > apnea, and a rare blood disorder called Polycythemia. So I have > been in the > > process of filing for Social Security Disability for the past 4 > months as my > > doctors tell me I am disabled and can forget working. > > > > I would like to hear about the experience other persons have had > on going > > through TKR. I am relatively sure the other knee (right) will have > to be > > done at some point strictly from the aspect of the stress that has > been put > > on it for the past years. > > > > Thanks for any information shared. > > > > By the way in case anyone wants to know my age is 56. > > > > > > > > -- > Diane Thornton > www.knitmentia.blogspot.com > www.lefthandedknitting.net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Greetings; I had TKR 10/28/09. I had the same hopes. Following surgery I also was in much greater pain than before. But it had abated somewhat. And it is swolllen, but that has gone down some also. Depression is a problem, I am on valium for that, it also helps with spasms. I use ice, and oxycodone - but they are trying to wean me off the oxy (1 every 6 hrs instead of 2 every 4 hrs). The nights are not as bad as daytime, I sleep on my back normally, and they let me put a VERY small pillow under the new knee. The oxy and the valium make me sleepy during the day, so I take 2 naps a day which helps. Massages help. When they took the staples out a week ago it helped a lot. Now I just have a row of little bits of tape, that theoretically come off at the next doc visit Dec. 8. I will have a 14 " scar but who cares when you are 69 and do not do beach blanket bingo anymore. If " active flex " means how much you can bend the knee, I can do 87 with reasonable pain and 90 with HUGE pain.. My P/T says it will get better. Luckily I have a wonderful husband who drives me to doc and P/T , plus takes me out to dinner and lunch several times a week. I have a friend who had TKR in mid-August and was dancing with his wife (polka!) last week. He says do all your rehab, it will work out eventually. I am choosing to believe him, but I am going to nag my doc about inadequate pain meds. I hope you start improving. I was pretty down and depressed at the 2 week point but it got better. Good luck. ////Adrienne Diane Thornton wrote: > > > Greetings, > > I am 47, had a TKA 11/4/09. It has been very complicated. Strictly > speaking of the knee, I will agree that replacing a rotten knee will > NOT get > you what you hope for. I hoped for a pain free, mobile knee without > swelling. As the process got closer to surgery I found out more and more > about the limitations of TKA; swelling will likely continue for 6-12 mos > post op, pain may continue for a year. Following surgery I was in much > greater pain than prior to surgery, *but the pain is different. it is a > injury pain and now a healing pain.* Believe it when you read that people > have depression after TKA. I'm just a bit over 2 weeks into this and have > what a PT friend calls " buyer's remorse " . I have been told that in 6-12 > months the worst will be behind me. I only hope as much. My surgery went > relatively smoothly despite my surgeons concerns about my many previous > surgeries complicating this one. My knees were malaligned since birth. I > also have young onset alzheimer's. I now have seizures, just since > surgery. This has negatively impacted my rehab. > I'm 2.4 weeks since surgery. Active flex is 95, active extension is -5 (5 > past zero). I am having little problem with pain during the day, but the > nights KILL me. I have deep, bone crushing pain. Using ice and medication > and meditation. Starting to get massages to try and lower my > anxiety/stress/speed healing. Good luck! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Welcome to the group Doug, I had bilateral TKR surgery in July. I had severe osteo-arthritis, with contractures (greater than 45 degrees on the left and greater than 20 on the right). I also have a history of cellulitis in the left leg (four bouts in 25 years), and lymphadema (which delveloped because of the cellulitis). My recuperation has been longer than many others in this group. A big part was due to the fact my knees were in such bad shape at time of surgery. Additionally, I didn't wear the compression stockings for the lymphadema (knee high, heavier than TED hose), for almost two weeks and the lymphadema swelling began again. I was in the hospital for a week. Surgery on the left was on a Thursday so I went in that morning, and right knee was operated on Monday. Three days after the second surgery, I moved to an in-patient rehab facility and got intensive therapy. I spent a little more than a week there. (Thursday to following Saturday.) I began wearing the compression stockings mid-way through rehab....after several requests/discussions with my physiatrist. Seven weeks post-op, I developed a case of cellulitis near my new knee in my left leg. If you aren't familiar with it, cellulitis is an infection in soft tissue. Once you've had it, you're prone to get it again. Anyway, I ended up back in the hospital for four nights. I missed a week of Physical Therapy because of it, and once I resumed, I had a set-back with particularly flexion in that leg. At this stage, four months after surgery, I have extension near 0 degrees on my left leg (from a deficit of greater than 45 degrees contractures) and flexion at 110. My right knee I have 117 degrees flexion and 9 degrees extension. I have done more than my fair share of comparing my progress with others here on this list. There are others who have better ROM than I do, much earlier in their recovery, and I have had to learn to NOT compare. I still have some pain...mostly in the quads above my knees when standing, as well as near the top of one scar from a huge mis-shapen golf ball sized scar tissue. Strength and endurance for longer periods of standing and distance walking are improving. I will be going back to work in the near future, which is a milestone. All in all, I am thrilled with how I feel. It's been a tough road, but I am so glad I had it done. I was miserable prior to surgery. Every step I took hurt, I felt like crying daily, and it was no way to live at 49. I am able to do more now, four months post-op than I was able to do for a long time prior to surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi Doug, I live in southeastern NM. I had my TKR in June. It has been slow going but is gradually getting better. I also have diabetes, HNPP (a hereditary neuropathy) and venus insufficiency all of which have impacted my recovery. I had my surgery done in Amarillo. One thing I would stress is to search for a good surgeon. As you know I'm sure, finding good doctors in our part of the world can be difficult but is absolutely vital for this type of surgery. I had injured my knee in 8th grade (I'm 46 now) and had 4 previous surgeries on it. If you have further questions, just ask. Jo G New Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Diane, I agree with others here that 2 weeks is like barely out of the surgery room. TKAs are NOT a painless procedure, and at two weeks you are just getting ready to pass the high pain phase. I've had depression periods with each of my 4 joint surgeries (2 TKAs and 2 hip resurfacings), I believe it to be part of the healing. It passed. I sure got what I hoped for with my knee replacements, at 7 months I can do anything, I was barely walking before surgery. About swelling, the initial post op swelling goes away fairly soon. Swelling from arthritic inflammation which is usually not big swelling can last, but cortisone to the butt will take it down. Some people don't have any long term swelling. After I got over the big post surgical pain I took pain meds at night to prevent me from waking up in pain as I got in weird positions while sleeping. Since you have these misaligned knees since birth, your recovery could take longer, but I just stuck it out until 4-5 months and things were so much better, now I don't have pain. Good luck and just hang in there for a few months, Hollie > Greetings, > > I am 47, had a TKA 11/4/09. It has been very complicated. Strictly > speaking of the knee, I will agree that replacing a rotten knee will NOT get > you what you hope for. I hoped for a pain free, mobile knee without > swelling. As the process got closer to surgery I found out more and more > about the limitations of TKA; swelling will likely continue for 6-12 mos > post op, pain may continue for a year. Following surgery I was in much > greater pain than prior to surgery, *but the pain is different. it is a > injury pain and now a healing pain.* Believe it when you read that people > have depression after TKA. I'm just a bit over 2 weeks into this and have > what a PT friend calls " buyer's remorse " . I have been told that in 6-12 > months the worst will be behind me. I only hope as much. My surgery went > relatively smoothly despite my surgeons concerns about my many previous > surgeries complicating this one. My knees were malaligned since birth. I > also have young onset alzheimer's. I now have seizures, just since > surgery. This has negatively impacted my rehab. > I'm 2.4 weeks since surgery. Active flex is 95, active extension is -5 (5 > past zero). I am having little problem with pain during the day, but the > nights KILL me. I have deep, bone crushing pain. Using ice and medication > and meditation. Starting to get massages to try and lower my > anxiety/stress/speed healing. Good luck! > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, <douglasswearingen@...>wrote: > > > > > > > As an introduction to the group, my name is Doug. I reside in southern New > > Mexico. I have been suffering from Osteo-Arthritis of the Knee since my last > > knee surgery that was about 30 years ago. I have had two knee surgeries > > being caused by an accident when I was a child playing football with my two > > brothers. > > > > Anyway I an considering a TKR. I have been told by the orthopaedic surgeon > > that the knees will never be any better than they are now. I do not know how > > true that statement is. > > > > As well I have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, Cardiac problems, sleep > > apnea, and a rare blood disorder called Polycythemia. So I have been in the > > process of filing for Social Security Disability for the past 4 months as my > > doctors tell me I am disabled and can forget working. > > > > I would like to hear about the experience other persons have had on going > > through TKR. I am relatively sure the other knee (right) will have to be > > done at some point strictly from the aspect of the stress that has been put > > on it for the past years. > > > > Thanks for any information shared. > > > > By the way in case anyone wants to know my age is 56. > > > > > > > > > > -- > Diane Thornton > www.knitmentia.blogspot.com > www.lefthandedknitting.net > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks to everyone for all the messages about their experiences with TKR. The market I am looking in for the surgeon is in the Albuquerque, NM area. I reside in T or C, NM which is short for Truth or Consequences, NM named after the game show from the 1950's. I reside about 150 miles south of Albuquerque which is the largest market for health care around here.  ________________________________ From: Jo Gaines <gainesbunch@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 2:39:51 PM Subject: Re: TKR  Hi Doug, I live in southeastern NM. I had my TKR in June. It has been slow going but is gradually getting better. I also have diabetes, HNPP (a hereditary neuropathy) and venus insufficiency all of which have impacted my recovery. I had my surgery done in Amarillo. One thing I would stress is to search for a good surgeon. As you know I'm sure, finding good doctors in our part of the world can be difficult but is absolutely vital for this type of surgery. I had injured my knee in 8th grade (I'm 46 now) and had 4 previous surgeries on it. If you have further questions, just ask. Jo G New Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hi Doug, I had a right TKR on August 20 and a little shy of 8 weeks later, on Oct 13, had a left TKR. I just turned 58 and don't have any other major health problems and am not overweight. I live a little south of Santa Fe, NM and after deciding that their local hospital was not going to be the place to go for my surgeries, I started researching hospitals and OS in the Albuquerque area. Presbyterian in Albq seemed to have the lowest infection rate and I got good references for two Orthos at New Mexico Orthopedics....Dr. Archibeck and Dr. Junick. Both do a high volume of knee replacements at Presbyterian. I went with Dr. Archibeck for my surgeries. Since I live out of town and in a rural area, home health came out to my home for Physical therapy. I'll be starting outpatient PT on Tuesday. Archibeck does not do the quad sparing technique...incision is down the middle of the knee...closes with glue and staples. I was in the hospital for 3 days both times (typical for his patients without problems). He likes using a spinal and femoral block (sedation is also used so you sleep through the procedure). It is a major surgery and recovery is painful. I'm still taking 3 or 4 Percocet daily and working on switching over to Tramadol for pain control at this point. At 3 months post op for one knee and 6 weeks post op on the other knee, I'm able to walk without the walker or cane. Flexion is 124 on my first knee and 117 on my second knee with both being at about -4 extension. I Definitely continue to have swelling at this point that worsens through the day. I have purchased a recumbent exercise bike to help with my rehab. I go through range of motion exercises several times a day and try to move around as much as possible. Endurance is still a major problem and I'm just now getting to the point where I can stand long enough to prepare a meal or two. Like everyone else has said, recovery varies from person to person. I am glad that I had it done and even though my PT said that I was ahead of schedule with what I can do, I'm still frustrated with the slowness of the progress. This is not something that you get over quickly and I've also had my bouts of depression. I'm content with who did my surgery and felt that he was very qualified. Surgery wait time was approximately 3 months. :-( Shirley in Cerrillos, NM Re: Re: TKR Thanks to everyone for all the messages about their experiences with TKR. The market I am looking in for the surgeon is in the Albuquerque, NM area. I reside in T or C, NM which is short for Truth or Consequences, NM named after the game show from the 1950's. I reside about 150 miles south of Albuquerque which is the largest market for health care around here. ________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Thanks Shirley, I have been seen at New Mexico Orthopaedics but not be the two particular doctors you mentioned. Doug ________________________________ From: Shirley <whispertoeva@...> Joint Replacement Sent: Sun, November 22, 2009 5:35:35 PM Subject: Re: Re: TKR Â Hi Doug, I had a right TKR on August 20 and a little shy of 8 weeks later, on Oct 13, had a left TKR. I just turned 58 and don't have any other major health problems and am not overweight. I live a little south of Santa Fe, NM and after deciding that their local hospital was not going to be the place to go for my surgeries, I started researching hospitals and OS in the Albuquerque area. Presbyterian in Albq seemed to have the lowest infection rate and I got good references for two Orthos at New Mexico Orthopedics. ...Dr. Archibeck and Dr. Junick. Both do a high volume of knee replacements at Presbyterian. I went with Dr. Archibeck for my surgeries. Since I live out of town and in a rural area, home health came out to my home for Physical therapy. I'll be starting outpatient PT on Tuesday. Archibeck does not do the quad sparing technique... incision is down the middle of the knee...closes with glue and staples. I was in the hospital for 3 days both times (typical for his patients without problems). He likes using a spinal and femoral block (sedation is also used so you sleep through the procedure). It is a major surgery and recovery is painful. I'm still taking 3 or 4 Percocet daily and working on switching over to Tramadol for pain control at this point. At 3 months post op for one knee and 6 weeks post op on the other knee, I'm able to walk without the walker or cane. Flexion is 124 on my first knee and 117 on my second knee with both being at about -4 extension. I Definitely continue to have swelling at this point that worsens through the day. I have purchased a recumbent exercise bike to help with my rehab. I go through range of motion exercises several times a day and try to move around as much as possible. Endurance is still a major problem and I'm just now getting to the point where I can stand long enough to prepare a meal or two. Like everyone else has said, recovery varies from person to person. I am glad that I had it done and even though my PT said that I was ahead of schedule with what I can do, I'm still frustrated with the slowness of the progress. This is not something that you get over quickly and I've also had my bouts of depression. I'm content with who did my surgery and felt that he was very qualified. Surgery wait time was approximately 3 months. :-( Shirley in Cerrillos, NM Re: [Total_Joint_ Replacement] Re: TKR Thanks to everyone for all the messages about their experiences with TKR. The market I am looking in for the surgeon is in the Albuquerque, NM area. I reside in T or C, NM which is short for Truth or Consequences, NM named after the game show from the 1950's. I reside about 150 miles south of Albuquerque which is the largest market for health care around here. ____________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Folks I had two (2) total knee replacement one in 5/09 and one in 04/08. My osteo-arthitis was so bad I had made groves in the knees where there had been no miniscus. Bone on bone. I cried every day attempting to walk to my car in the Company parking lot. Exactly 932 steps each way. I began counting the steps to take my mind of the pain. I used a cain for so long my lower back (S1L5, L5L4, L4L3 were compressed and giving me siatica). If anything could go wrong, it happened to me. I weigh 270 lbs. Never could walk or go up the stairs (15 of them) in my own home. I used to do something I called the Turtle, which is crawl up the stairs like a turtle. Today, I walk almost normal. No cane. Swelling has been gone for ??? never noticed one day I looked and it was gone. I started walking just around the cul-de-sac, and going up and down the stairs more and more. I don't use the electric carts any more in the store, but still smile at those that do. Please, please...get them done and make sure that you have a positive attitude. Do your rehab. Get up off your butt as soon as possible. I was up and walking in the hospital before the therapist came to help me. I was bound and determined that I wouldn't be in a wheelchair the rest of my life. If you need anything, or just want to vent...let me know. I can listen. :-) " Hello, my name is and I am a Yorkieholic! " Sonnett (18 yrs), (5 yrs), Tinker (16 yrs), (18 yrs), Meesha (14 yrs) - My little Angels at the Rainbow Bridge. Peaches (15yrs), Jackie (12yrs), Token (11yrs), Simon (8yrs), Barbie (7yrs), Star (6yrs) and Zoe's (2yrs) Mom 6 Yorkies, 1 Maltie, and 1 Pitbull who thinks she is a Yorkie). God help me!! " Yorkie addiction is the uncontrollable urge to love more than one...and the euphoria afterwards is undescribeable. " @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Hi , That's great news, congrats. Have you noticed that having your new knees have helped your back? I have severe back problems and it has been much better since the surgery. I also lost 50 lbs since the surgery and that has also helped with the back pain (except for today!) Jeff ________________________________ From: <@...> Joint Replacement Surgery Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 1:54:25 PM Subject: Re: TKR Folks I had two (2) total knee replacement one in 5/09 and one in 04/08. My osteo-arthitis was so bad I had made groves in the knees where there had been no miniscus. Bone on bone. I cried every day attempting to walk to my car in the Company parking lot. Exactly 932 steps each way. I began counting the steps to take my mind of the pain. I used a cain for so long my lower back (S1L5, L5L4, L4L3 were compressed and giving me siatica). If anything could go wrong, it happened to me. I weigh 270 lbs. Never could walk or go up the stairs (15 of them) in my own home. I used to do something I called the Turtle, which is crawl up the stairs like a turtle. Today, I walk almost normal. No cane. Swelling has been gone for ??? never noticed one day I looked and it was gone. I started walking just around the cul-de-sac, and going up and down the stairs more and more. I don't use the electric carts any more in the store, but still smile at those that do. Please, please...get them done and make sure that you have a positive attitude. Do your rehab. Get up off your butt as soon as possible. I was up and walking in the hospital before the therapist came to help me. I was bound and determined that I wouldn't be in a wheelchair the rest of my life. If you need anything, or just want to vent...let me know. I can listen. :-) " Hello, my name is and I am a Yorkieholic! " Sonnett (18 yrs), (5 yrs), Tinker (16 yrs), (18 yrs), Meesha (14 yrs) - My little Angels at the Rainbow Bridge. Peaches (15yrs), Jackie (12yrs), Token (11yrs), Simon (8yrs), Barbie (7yrs), Star (6yrs) and Zoe's (2yrs) Mom 6 Yorkies, 1 Maltie, and 1 Pitbull who thinks she is a Yorkie). God help me!! " Yorkie addiction is the uncontrollable urge to love more than one...and the euphoria afterwards is undescribeable. " @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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